It just seems like the news hasn’t stopped coming in for the Cincinnati Reds since the season ended. First it was announced that Turner Ward wouldn’t return as the hitting coach next season. Then the team announced that it had hired Kyle Boddy to be their new minor league pitching coordinator, and expand that role to also include their director of pitching initiatives.

Then it was reported by Bobby Nightengale of The Cincinnati Enquirer that the Reds are expecting to raise payroll for 2020. President of Baseball Operations Dick Williams had this to say about the payroll:

I believe we’ll have more financial resources at our disposal.

We don’t comment on the specifics of payroll, but directionally, we are going to continue to build and invest in this team and have more financial resources available for us. Our payroll will be bigger this year.

How much the Reds will expand their payroll by is a question that we simply don’t have an answer to right now. But we do know that the payroll this season was $130M. And we know, roughly, what the Reds have on the books for next year – sort of.

Five players already have their salaries set for 2020. Joey Votto, Sonny Gray, Eugenio Suarez, Raisel Iglesias, and Tucker Barnhart are under contract for set amounts. They will make a combined $57.65M in 2020. The rest of the team will either make the league minimum for their service time, or will be going through arbitration.

Let’s take a look at the players who will be hitting arbitration: Trevor Bauer, Anthony DeSclafani, Michael Lorenzen, Kevin Gausman, and Derek Dietrich are all entering their final years of arbitration. Jose Peraza and Curt Casali will be entering their second year of arbitration. Scott Schebler and Matt Bowman will all be heading there for the first time.

The big number here will come for Trevor Bauer. He made $13M this year and is likely to get a raise. Anthony DeSclafani could get a decent raise, too, given the season he’s coming off of as a starting pitcher. Kevin Gausman is another interesting case. He made just over $9M this past season. For Cincinnati, though, they used him as a reliever. Even with a down season, he will probably get a raise. That seems awfully expensive for a reliever given the market. There’s probably a decent chance he is non-tendered. If the organization is really worried about their rotation, then perhaps they keep him around and pay him – but that’s an expensive insurance plan.

For Michael Lorenzen we’re probably talking about a solid raise, but given that he made just under $2M last year, it won’t be that big. And then there’s Derek Dietrich, who feels like a player that they might non-tender instead of go to arbitration with.

Jose Peraza, despite seemingly being given plenty of room to show something in late 2019, simply hasn’t performed. He posted a 62 OPS+ this season. He’s Billy Hamilton without the baserunning or defense. I would not be shocked if the team non-tendered him. Of course, I wouldn’t be surprised if they kept him around, either. He made $2.775M in 2019. It’s incredibly rare for a player to not get a raise in arbitration, even if they perform terribly. Curt Casali should get a small raise from the sub $1M mark he made last year. Scott Schebler may wind up as a non-tender candidate after the season he just put up, while also trying to come off of shoulder surgery. Matt Bowman is probably going to be sticking around and getting a small bump in salary from his league minimum mark he had in 2019.

If we just make some assumptions on the raises guys get in arbitration, we can reasonably assume that at most the Reds payroll will be at $110M before any free agency or trades happen. And that’s if they keep guys like Gausman, Peraza, Dietrich, and Schebler around rather than non-tender them. The Cincinnati Reds should have $30+M to spend this offseason for the 2020 campaign. And really, it should be significantly more than that. If the Reds are going to raise payroll and shoot for the playoffs, like Dick Williams says, then raise the payroll to $150M. Maybe raise it more. Actually go for it.

Chad Dotson made an interesting observation on twitter last night about the article and quotes, though:

The Cincinnati Reds do have a smaller market than any other team except the Milwaukee Brewers. So yes, they are not working with the same situation as the Dodgers or Yankees. But the Reds ownership group is made up of 19 very rich people who bought the organization 14 years ago and have watched it grow in value by $800,000,000 in that time. I don’t want to hear “small market” when the organization has a value over a billion dollars.

If the team is going to say things like this:

The goal for us now, all we’re talking about is the postseason,” Williams said. “That’s what matters. That’s the goal next year. It’s not taking incremental steps in a rebuild. It’s about the postseason.

Well, then go do it. It’s clear that the Reds are operating differently than they used to. Between the front office shuffle, to the trades last offseason to improve the roster – it’s different. It may not have worked out as hoped for either the front office, the players, or even the fans in 2019 – but the operations are very different. This organization has avoided free agency like the plague for the last two decades. Let’s hope they operate differently this offseason and once again show that things are actually changing.

The original article failed to mention Kevin Gausman and has since been updated.

80 Responses

  1. Klugo

    Also made some interesting comments re: the OF and INF situation. Sounds like bats are top priority. And probably OF bats.

  2. Spaceman Red

    Interesting piece by Mr. Dotson. I disagree with the contention that Trevor Bauer had a “superb” season. He had negative WAR value for the Reds. This is relevant re: his trade value, which I believe is dubious. He does not have a good clubhouse reputation either. Just saying.

    I will believe that Reds are ready to sign free agents when they do. Would not be surprised if they make trades a la Matt Kemp where they take larger contracts to upgrade.

    Joey Votto is my favorite Red ever but Mr. Dotson is right. Hope is not a strategy. I am skeptical he will ever be among the top ten WAR value first baseman in the National League again. His power has evaporated and his OBP has diminished significantly.

    • Ed

      His performance was so so bad, I just don’t understand how his WAR could possibly only be -1. He allowed like 8 runs each start and only went 4 innings deep! Insane. Only one win less than the average starter? Nutso

      • LWBlogger2

        Not a giant fan of WAR at all. That said, you may be misunderstanding it a little. It isn’t -1 win versus a league average pitcher. It’s -1 win versus a replacement player. That replacement player is a fictional player who would essentially be a minor-league replacement for whatever position is being analyzed. An average MLB starting pitcher should be worth about 2.0 WAR, give or take… A reliever with over 1.0 in WAR is generally considered good value. A basic guide aside from that:

        Scrub less than 1 WAR
        Role Player 1-2 WAR
        Solid Starter 2-3 WAR
        Good Player 3-4 WAR
        All-Star 4-5 WAR
        Superstar 5-6 WAR
        MVP 6+ WAR

  3. Mike

    I certainly think they should let Peraza walk, but would be surprised if they do. Someone in the front office would lose face in that. They made such a big deal when they got him, they refuse to admit that someone mis-evaluated his talent. They spoke like he was the second coming of Kirby Puckett. Plays more like Gary Puckett. He only cost the Reds Todd Frazier. I hope that whomever recommended that trade is no long with the organization, but I’ll bet his name was Walt.

    • Michael Smith

      @mike,

      No one is left that would lose face if Peraza walked. You also could DFA him and then resign him for less than arbitration.

      • BK

        The Reds only go to arbitration with players they don’t reach a contractual agreement with and tender a contract to. In other words, while they can DFA Peraza as you stated, they have other options.

  4. SultanofSwaff

    I would hope that some of that payroll would go toward extensions…….if for nothing more than to make a player more attractive in a trade because of cost certainty. To that end, I would explore extensions with Castillo, Disco, Senzel, Winker, and Lorenzen. All make sense as components of the next good Reds team.

    • jim walker

      To me Senzel and Winker are both very big risks because of their injury history. Let them get through a season without major time lost to injury before endowing their families’ future for a couple generations.

      Just for example, Winker now has 2.080 of MLB service time (424 days), has lost, give or take, 125-130 days of time to the DL/IL over this period. That’s an Injured list rate of about or just under 25% of his MLB time as I count it.

      The circumstance might be different if this was essentially 1 big injury; but, it is not. Yes, the big one cost him 65 days in 2018; but then he dropped 45 days or so this year on what originally looked like a day to day injury. Then there was a hip flexor which cost him 17 days in 2017. They need to see him stay on the field before they extend him

      • SultanofSwaff

        I see your point but I also see opportunity. They may take a discounted deal in order to find that hedge against injury…..much in the same way a pitcher might/should think about things. I don’t think either of us doubt their ability

      • Tom Mitsoff

        I agree completely. To ignore their injury history is to tell them that their potential is more important than their actual performance, and to ignore evidence staring the front office directly in the face.

  5. Tom Mitsoff

    My best guess is that they will avoid the very top tier of available hitters (Rendon) and focus on the tier below him, which will include Grandal, Gregorius and Corey Dickerson. They’re getting a taste of what it’s like to pay someone 20+ million per year in the downward side of his aging cycle (Votto), and they may choose to avoid that in the case of Rendon. I’m not saying I wouldn’t love having Rendon, but it’s a leap in organizational thinking that I believe is too much to expect.

    • Colorado Red

      I would think Rendon is going to cost 30 mil per year, based on what the Nats offered him.
      Not overly realistic.
      1. Sign Grandal I would think 3/50 – 55 would get it done.
      2. Not sure about Didi, not a good year, but upside.
      3. look at Castellanos, not sure if it was a hot streak or change for the Cubs

      One other thing, cash flow matters more then the value of a team.
      If you have a lot of Gold in your basement (not me), you may rich, but not a lot of money to spend.
      I do hope they open the pocketbooks, and spend some. I would think, they have a lot of cash from the low spending years.

      • Dewey Roberts

        It is interesting that both Grandal and Gregorious were drafted by the Reds and later traded, but now we want to sign them as free agents. That would be as much of an admission by the FO as releasing Peraza ( whom I never thought would amount to much of anything).

      • Tom Mitsoff

        At the time Gregorius and Grandal were traded, those trades made sense for the big-league team. I don’t think those trades indicated that the Reds didn’t like those two players, but they needed to trade them to improve the major league team at that time.

      • jbonireland

        Grandal’s Stats for 2019 513 ab 28 hr 77 rbi .246 batting ave

        Casali & Barnhart for 2019 523 ab 19 72 rbi .239 batting ave

        Casali & Barnhart combined contracts probably 28 million and for a few more HR and 5 more rbis you want to give Grandal an extra 25-30 million doesn’t sound like money well spent when you have a likely replacement who will be starting in Louisville next year in Tyler Stephenson.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        You have to look at it in the terms that the front office probably will. Grandal had a wRC+ of 121, while Casali was 90 and Barnhart was 81. In terms of WAR, Grandal was 5.2 (Fangraphs), Casali was 1.0 and Barnhart was 0.7. In either of those measures, Grandal is a huge upgrade. (You also have to remember that defense is of secondary importance these days.)

      • Justin

        If we get Grandal, one of Barnhart or Casali will be the backup. So you can add one of their stats to Grandals. Big upgrade.

      • greenmtred

        In both cases, as I recall, they were choosing between two promising young players: in Grandal’s case, the other was Mesoraco, and in Gregorious’s, it was Cozart. Injuries had quite a lot to do with how those choices panned out for the Reds.

      • Dewey Roberts

        Tom, I wasn’t trying to make the point that the Reds didn’t like them— just that they had them and traded them. Personally I was not thrilled when we traded them. It made sense to the front office but not to me. I always like Grandal better than our other catcher. And I never like to trade promising short stops because they are hard to find.

    • LWBlogger2

      Maybe Marcel Ozuna over Dickerson. Not quite 29. Better in LF than RF… I am a big Winker fan but he’s really struggled to stay on the field. If the Reds land someone like Ozuna, Winker could be moved. He’s been pretty good when healthy and I could see a team moving some talent for him. He’s cost-controlled and an above average hitter with good on-base skills. An AL team using him at DH and spot starts in LF could definitely get some value out of him. I could see a team betting he can play 140 games, limiting his exposure to LH pitchers.

    • Colorado Red

      worth looking at, but not sure.
      Played great for the Cubs for a short time, else MAH?
      Do need a CF, and move Nick back to 2nd.
      but then what about VanMeter?

      • Tom Mitsoff

        VanMeter didn’t do enough to earn consideration as a 2020 starting player, in my opinion. His offense and defense were both below par. He still has a chance to improve and become a contributor moving forward.

  6. FreeHouse

    Going off topic here, what are the odds of Nick Lodolo pitching in the majors next year?

    • Colorado Red

      I would think near 0.
      He has only played in A ball so far.
      I would want him to have some time in AA and AAA first.

  7. RedsfanNY

    How about they start developing some of their players in the minors or drafting better. They’re missing something between scouts and development of the minor leaguers. I’m tired of hearing about how they’re a small market team. The Rays are a smaller market team and have won 90+ games the past 2 years. The A’s also are outperforming from a smaller market. There is definitely a problem. Small market is no excuse for me anymore. But hey let’s trade away all our top prospects in hopes of competing in 2020. The Reds probably won’t develop them into anything anyways. The 2 we sent to the Dodgers were playing well in AA this year. Is anyone we got still on the team? Kyle Farmer, #gamechanger. Ohh we sent Puig to Cleveland for one year of Bauer. He’s looked good so far. Also traded a top 100 prospect, the Reds top rated prospect in that deal. Maybe they need to just get people in the front office that are better. But at least we didn’t lose 90 games again this year, oh yay we ended the streak. Woohoo we did it. Sorry for the rant. Been frustrated with this team and the moves they’ve made for too long.

  8. jim walker

    While I was in BBRef site the other day looking at something else, I noticed that the Reds finished 13th of 15th in NL attendance this season. Recall DW had said at one point that additional spending might depend on attendance. So, I wonder where the money is coming from and why it wasn’t available (or used) earlier.

    • Bryan E

      Don’t buy the attendance nonsense. The Reds make tons of money via revenue sharing, MLB TV deals, and their local FSOhio deal.

      • Jim Walker

        Guess I had my tongue a little too deeply into my cheek 😉
        I was hoping to infer the money must have been there all along if it is there now.

      • Doug Gray

        While there’s tons of money in the TV deals, attendance still does matter. The difference between 1.9M tickets and 2.5M tickets sold, when the average ticket price is $45…. That’s $27M. That’s the price of a big time free agent or two solid to good free agents.

    • RedNat

      it is weird. we were 13/15 in the NL in attendance but 19/30 in the mlb. I guess because there were so many bad AL teams this year. I do think attendance is a big factor in their decision making whether we like it or not. we were up about 2k from last year which was good. I also think people may have spent more money at the park this year. the lines at the concessions and novelty stores seemed a lot longer this year than years past it seemed to me.

      Here is to hoping the local and regional economy continues to grow so the reds payroll can inch up to that top tier level

    • greenmtred

      I know that you’re being tongue in cheek, Jim, but I must add that, had the team been good, the attendance would have been better. That’s how it works. No chicken and egg mystery here.

      • Tom

        Doug, the difference between 1.9m and 2.5m tickets sold in total revenue is $27m (assuming the $45 average) but that’s not the total value to the club of those extra tickets.

        There are two types of costs the club has to factor. There are fixed costs and variable costs. The cost of the stadium lease is a fixed cost. Meaning, the club begins the year in the hole for the total amount of the stadium lease. It’s also in the hole for the contracted salaries and depreciation on the assets.

        What gets the team out of the hole is a combo of a few things. One is the TV deal money. That’s fixed revenue. Another is the revenue sharing (I’m not sure how that’s calculated but I’m guessing it varies).

        The next factor is margin over variable costs. So, in order to put a fan’s butt in a seat, there’s a cost to that sale. There’s a cost in adverting and a cost to the ballpark operation. The hope is that each seat has a strong margin over those variable costs. For instance, a $15 dollar seat might expect to also bring in an additional $25 on food and beverages – so $40 of revenue. But, there may only be a 20% margin on that seat and the food. A $300 diamond seat likely costs $75 dollars in margin costs and nets $225 (not counting what the person buys in the store or other extras). There’s obviously a lot less diamond seats but you get the picture.

        What more attendance does is very important. It dilutes the fixed costs by spreading them out across more seats. And, if the pricing is right, each seat produces a margin over their variable cost. So, that means that each month, there’s a break even number of seats that must be sold in the right combination of higher and lower priced seats. But, the higher the attendance volume and the higher the margin over variable, the more money the team has available. Further, while many of the diamond seats are sold to season ticket holders, every one of those seats that are empty are both a loss in revenue from merchandise sales that the “free food” was designed to entice.

        St Louis has typically drawn a million more fans a year than the Reds do. Assuming they have similar margins over variable, that extra million people is huge in terms of available cash. Let’s say the Reds and the Cards both need 500k fans to attend to cover fixed costs. For every fan over $500 that attends, the cash flow goes up on a logarithmic scale. Meaning, the cash generated from the last million is much more than the cash generated by the first million.

        As for the value of the club, that value is only realized at a liquidating event – meaning, when someone sells. And, when someone sells, that value leaves with the seller. If the Reds owners all sold their Reds shares and made $800m in profit over their original investment, that “profit” leaves with the seller. The team gets none of that value. My understanding is that the owners of the Reds operate team to annually break even and while the rebuild did produce some extra cash, that cash was reinvested into player development, analytics, park improvements, and set aside for signing players to make a run. Hopefully, they’ve made every dollar count.

        But, I’m afraid that structurally, the Reds are a massive disadvantage most other clubs due to market size. That doesn’t mean they can’t compete – Tampa, Milwaukee, and Oakland prove it’s possible. To compete, Dick Williams is going to need to be a genius and the Reds margin for error in execution is razor thin.

  9. jim walker

    Love it that the hot stove league is cranking away during one of the hottest ever Octobers; but, I hope they are saving something for the depths of winter between New Year and PACR (pitchers and catchers report).

      • jim walker

        It was 90+ here (Cincinnati/ Dayton, OH area) Thursday for the third or fourth consecutive day. I saw that southern Tennessee across into N. Carolina was pushing 100. I believe that Chattanooga, most likely among others, actually posted 100 degrees.

  10. Hotto4Votto

    Gausman? Did I miss a transaction? He’s due a pretty hefty salary next season through arbitration if he’s tendered.

    • BK

      I think it’s pretty unlikely he goes to arbitration with the Reds. In 2019, he was horrid as a starter, but performed well in relief. I would love to keep him for the bullpen, but $9M+ is too much. He’ll sign for a lower AAV or be non-tendered.

      • Hotto4Votto

        Absolutely agree. I also find it doubtful they’ll go through arbitration with Schebler or Dietrich either, but they still got a mention in the article. Just wondering why he was omitted.

  11. Ed

    Trade for Yoan Moncada and Jorge Soler! Add Castellanos and Grandal!

  12. Ed

    I’m really disappointed to just learn Galvis was a PED user in 2012! Galvis and Grandal? Man… bummer

  13. Optimist

    Would they get Lindor or Betts at $30m/yr for 3 years? Either would fill a hole and “add payroll” in the just-do-it sense. IIRC each comes with one year of arb control, so the extensions would be the big $$$ layouts. Would either be had in trade for any 2 relievers?

    Aside from a Trout/Harper fantasy, wouldn’t that be the maximum the Reds could do?

    • Doug Gray

      Why would either of those players agree to sign for that? Both will be looking at $300M deals after 2020.

      • Optimist

        How many years for $300m? Reds clearly aren’t going for that, but would the Reds go for $40-50m/yr for 2 or 3 years? Trying to get the maximum amount they’ll go for – doubt they’d go for more than 3 years at those prices.

        Given the Homer/Votto history (one worked, one didn’t) I don’t see the Reds going for contracts beyond a players age 33/34 seasons.

    • Justin

      I think there is a chance they trade for one of those players. Lindor would net them more years of control, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we go out and get one. In my mind, one of Santillan/Gutierrez should be available, India and Siri should be available, VanMeter and O’Grady should be available, one of Greene/Lodolo should be available, Callihan should be available as well.

      This is based on control years we have on other players. If Mahle or Winker/Ervin get traded, that would change some of this.

  14. scottya

    Interesting article, Rendon! “Other options include catcher Yasmani Grandal, shortstop Didi Gregorius, left fielder Marcell Ozuna, and right fielder Nick Castellanos.”

    I’m liking a possible Grandal signing more and more, he is going to hold out for a large payday. I’d rather do the same the brewers did last year and overpay one year with a possible second one year 23 million and 20 million mutual option. He can back up Joey at 1B vs LHP. Trade Tucker for Mark Canha (to shoreup the outfield and backup votto) or a nice bullpen piece and keep casali.

    I also like the idea of Mike Moustakas at 2b. Shortstop is really a hard fix, but I like a platoon of didi and iglesias best and the cost has dropped with Didi’s tommy john rehab season. 150 million payroll and this could be done.

    https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/expectation-for-hitters-returning-from-tommy-john/

    1. Mark Canha – RF/CF
    2. Yasmani Grandal – C/1B
    3. Joey Votto – 1B (sits vs lhp and Casali C)
    4. Eugenio Suarez – 3B
    5. Mike Moustakas – 2B (sits vs lhp)
    6. Nick Senzel – CF/2B
    7. Didi Gregorios/Jose Iglesias platoon – SS
    8. Jesse Winker/Phil Ervin platoon – LF

    • AirborneJayJay

      Where is Aquino in your scenario?? Certainly not on the bench or back at AAA.

      • scottya

        I’ll copy and second what Dick Williams said about Aquino next season:
        “He’s going to have to continue to earn it and improve and build and we will take the approach in the offseason that the outfield as a whole, you know, we will be trying to add,” said Williams.

  15. AirborneJayJay

    Non-tender contracts to Gausman, Galvis, Peraza, Dietrich, and Schebler.
    Extensions for Castillo, DeSclafani, and Lorenzen.
    Trade Raisel Iglesias, Barnhart, and Ervin.
    Top Free Agent targets: 1. OF Nicholas Castellanos, 2. C Yasmani Grandal, 3. Closer Will Smith. Castellanos and Grandal cannot have a Qualifying Offer made to them by their teams. So they won’t have draft pick compensation tied to them. Castellanos was traded at the deadline and wasn’t with the Cubs on Opening Day, and Grandal had one made to him last year by LAD. It remains to be seen if Smith will have a QO made to him, but that seems likely by SF.
    Top Trade targets: SS’s Lindor, Semien, Seager. If no Smith in FA, then maybe look to trade for LH closer Brad Hand instead.

  16. Moses

    Not sure if they’ll be tendered, but you seemed to have left out Galvis and Gausman, who combined could take home more than $15M. Galvis is probably a harder call than Gausman, who looks as good as gone.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Gausman will be non-tendered. His arbitration award would pay him as a starter, and clearly his best potential is in a relief role. Hopefully they can sign him at a reduced rate after non-tendering him.

      • jim walker

        I agree unless the Reds can leverage him into a sizable pay cut ahead of the nontender date. Given the experience of many guys who were less than very top tier free agents last year, this may be a legitimate possibility.

        However I can also see it as likely to probable that the Reds best offer ahead of nontender may be less than Gausman is willing to settle for before testing the market.

  17. Doug Gray

    I’m an idiot and forgot to account for Kevin Gausman in the math. I’ll go edit him in.

  18. Pete

    Big surprise: Mets fire Mickey Calloway. He’s a pretty fair manager in my estimation.

  19. Seat101

    Grandel is a PED guy coming from a team with the PED problem. I’ll pass, thanks.

    The big reason why you rarely see someone having his salary reduced in arbitration is that the team will not offer a Contract, and the union has made it pretty clear to the player to bite the bullet
    And take the lower offer if he has s not DFA’ed. The Union doesnt want many precedents of reduced salary through arbitration.

    Here’s an analogy about cash flow: remember when department stores were worth a lot of money because the property they sat on had bloomed in value?They didn’t have the income to pay off the debt when I borrowed against those increased valuations.

    I’d be willing to take the bet that the Reds are spending at least twice as much on non-player expenses then they were two years ago

    Valuation and cash flow are two different things and both of them affect how businesses are run

    Again, let the PED guys play for other teams.

  20. redfan4life

    What kind of trade value would Aquino have?

  21. Old-school

    C Trent has a fantastic interview DW.
    They still view Nick Senzel as capable of playing 2b or 3b.

    • BK

      Agreed … great primer for what to expect in the offseason. CTR and Bobby Nightengale are outstanding reporters/writers.

    • jim walker

      Yes, and notice that DW talked up Winker big while soft playing Ervin. Maybe that’s to be taken at face value; and, then again, maybe its indicating which one DW really prefers to move, that being the one whose value he was building with his words??

      • Old-school

        I didn’t see it that way. I took it to mean Ervin is an MLB outfielder but the reds need to add legitimate “outfielders/CF” not utility infielders platooning and rotating.

        I took it to mean Senzel is the only guy who can play of and infield or rotate OF spots and they will move him to the infield if a good CF is targeted.

  22. Mark

    Barnhart needs replaced offer grandal no more than 2 years.T Stephenson should be ready in year 2.
    I’m done with Winker trade bait along with Bauer and sign Gausman 2 year deal make him starter 4 let mahle and santillan battle for 5. The Winker/Bauer deal would be for a starting LF like Soler.
    If you trade for another starter instead of LF then sign Castellanos for starting LF
    Take the money of Barnhart Peraza Galvis and Iglesias toward gregorius for ss and consider moving senzel to 2b as starter.
    I’m thinking you go with Siri or Ervin combo in cf.

  23. Steve Schoenbaechler

    Boy, when I heard what the Nationals offered Rendon, I thought we wouldn’t be able to get him. Maybe now we can. Not saying that he is the best for us, for I haven’t looked at everyone. But, he would be a good addition, IMO. Put him at 3rd and move Suarez back to 2nd. I can take 40+ HR’s from SS.

    Either way, we are still going to need:

    1) Shore of the bullpen – I would like to see 1-2 additional lefties out there.

    2) We need bat – even with what I said about Rendon, we need OBP guys. At least 1-2.

    3) We need to develop the minors.

    With this Kyle Boddy stuff, I just hope that the people use their good mind. For instance, the videos may show that, for mechanics, an individual pitcher needs to come from a steeper arm angle for a certain pitch. However, just from pure individual anatomy, it may be too difficult, thus too much of a strain, for that individual pitcher to achieve that steeper arm angle. Forcing that issue could cause some bad pain if not injury issues.

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      Not saying I don’t like the Boddy stuff. For, I really do. I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering, and my specialty would be biomechanics. But, I also know enough that everyone has their own individual “quirks”. The Boddy stuff is a tool that should be considered by coaches. But, players need to be coached. Videos don’t coach.

    • VaRedsFan

      Suarez is too slow and lazy to play SS now. And it takes him too much time to wind up to throw the ball. Suarez at SS ship has sailed…no need to mention it anymore. If you wan to try him at 2nd, I could buy that, because it means we would have Rendon.

  24. Great Redlegs Fan

    First step is to get rid of the fat: do not tender Dietrich, Peraza, Bowman and Schebler. Also, do not exercise Galvis’ option. Gausman looks too expensive for a 5th spot/bullpen guy, so do not tender either.

    • BK

      Do you really think it’s a good idea to non-tender a relief pitcher with a 3.66 ERA, 3.68 FIP, and 125 ERA+? Also, similar #s in 3 of 4 big league seasons—he was injured in the unproductive season. Further, he has an optimistic remaining, is controlled for 4 years and will earn a minimal salary via arbitration. Personally, I think Bowman is a keeper and it’s an easy decision.

  25. Ed

    I suggest we just get this lineup on the field every day. Been thinking real hard about this.

    Catcher- Tucker and Graterol
    First- Derek Dietrich
    Second- Freddy Galvis
    Shortstop- Jose Iglesias
    Third- O’Grady
    Left Field- Josh VanMeter
    Center- Jose Peraza
    Right- schebler

    Starting pitchers-
    Bauer (every 3 days, he wants less rest he knows what’s best)
    Gausman
    Mahle
    Alex Wood (lefty)
    Maybe add 1 more?

    Relief-
    I’m sure Wandy and Hughes and Hernandez are an affordable bargain right now. Perhaps Hernandez to close things out, Raisel to eat up middle innings? Peraza here also?

    Should save money by freeing up/trading some of the higher dollar roster players so we can invest in big tarps to cover the empty seats so you can’t see em on Tv.

    • burtgummer

      For a second I thought you were serious

  26. Mat WI

    Brewers GM is on record as wanting back both Grandal and Moose. Could get expensive to pry Grandal away.

  27. Jack

    Look at the playoff team rosters, do the Reds have players like that with the possible exception of Suarez (his one big tool is power)? Pitching wise perhaps but they need at least 2 more big bats and they are not available in the minors. Go big for Rendon, don’t cry about 30 million per year because that is what elite players get today or accept that a good year is a run at .500. Grandal will not make this team a contender.