The big news from last night as it relates to the Cincinnati Reds was that the organization hired Kyle Boddy from Driveline Baseball to be their new Director of Pitching Initiatives / Pitching Coordinator at the Minor League level. Cincinnati made the sale to Boddy to pry him away from more than a few teams that were vying for him, including the Chicago Cubs. In baseball circles this is a pretty big deal. For a team that’s had trouble developing pitchers of their own it’s a really big deal. With that said, I don’t want to rehash much of what I wrote at this morning, so if you want to read a lot more about the hire of Kyle Boddy, you can click here and head on over that way.

Buried a bit in the news of that hire, it’s a former Driveline Baseball pitcher who got a promotion of sorts within the organization. Caleb Cotham, who pitched for the Reds briefly before retiring due to injuries, went to Driveline after his playing days to learn as much as he could and turned that into a job as assistant pitching coach with Cincinnati last year. Yesterday he was promoted, sort of. While he will still be the assistant pitching coach, he’s also got a new title: Director of Pitching.

This is just another move made by the organization to try and step forward. There’s been a massive overhaul in the organization’s hierarchy in the last 18 months. Here’s a look at the front office, scouting, and player development group at the start of the year. Things are highlighted for roles to begin 2019 as compared to the beginning of 2018. And of the last few days, also roles that are no longer held by Milt Thompson and Billy Hatcher. Tony Fossas is remaining with the organization, but the role he held has been expanded and taken over by Kyle Boddy.

Now, the chart above shows a massive overhaul as it is. But that also doesn’t include what’s happened at the Major League level, either. Nearly the entire coaching staff was replaced from 2018. And new roles were added, too.

The Cincinnati Reds are going about business in a very different manner than they have in the past. They’ve decided in the last year plus that things needed to change. And they needed to change in a lot of different ways and areas.

What we’ve seen Cincinnati do is go about changing not just who is in charge of many roles when it comes to acquiring talent. We’ve seen  in how to develop that talent. They’ve put systems in place, people in place – all to try and get the most out of the what is in the organization. And when it comes to the scouting, to try and get more talent into the organization.

That leaves one area left where the organization hasn’t addressed much. And it’s been an area where they’ve been behind most of baseball for decades. That area is free agency. The largest free agent deal ever handed out by the Reds was to Francisco Cordero prior to the 2008 season. He got 4-years and $48M. The next largest deal went to Eric Milton. He got 3-years and $25.5M. The largest contract ever given out by the Reds to a position player? Well that goes to Ryan Ludwick. Including the buyout, he was paid $17M for his 3-year deal.

Cincinnati hasn’t exactly been stingy giving up deals to players that they already had in their organization. Ken Griffey Jr. landed a big time deal worth over $100M. Homer Bailey and Joey Votto were both extended for big time deals, too. But the Reds have basically ignored the entire free agent market aside from small, bottom-of-the-barrel signings. Or if they haven’t, they’ve simply come up short on their offers for the last two decades. They’ve acted in different ways of late in many areas. Free agency should hopefully be the next one. While they can’t, or won’t likely compete for the $150+M players – they could compete in that middle market with anyone if they chose to.

94 Responses

  1. Bill J

    Let’s hope these changes work out better than the hitting coach hire last year.

  2. VaRedsFan

    They have a minor League Mental Skills coach? They should bring him up to the majors to stomp out the daily mental errors that the MLB players on this team are making.

    • Ed

      Director of Mental Lapse Prevention / Competent Baseball Coordinator

      • D Ray White

        With a TOOTTBLAN Prevention Technician working for the Director.


      He’ll be in Goodyear this spring. They’ll pick some up from him.
      It’s about the future. Plus he’s with the organization. They can pick his brain for the major team whenever they need

  3. Spaceman Red

    Nice write up. I asked just yesterday about the Reds biggest free agent deals and this is a handy answer. Ugh, that Ludwick deal was so bad. Add that one the pile of ignominy with Bailey, Madsen and Sean Marshall for players we paid to be injured and/or produce nothing.

    I will add another data point here if Doug or anyone knows any more about it. Didn’t Walt take a break from his beach vacation with his flip phone to put 200+ million on the table for Albert Pujols so he could join the rest of the Cardinal retreads on the downside of their careers with the Reds? Thank God that franchise crippling free agent landed on the Angels instead so they could keep hitting him third while wasting the best player in the game.

    … Anyways, does not the aborted Pujols deal prove the Reds have the coin for free agents? I fully support them pursuing a few higher caliber players in the offseason. We were fourteenth in attendance this year. A soccer team is competing for revenue and headlines. I hope the Front Office understands you have to spend a bit, if nothing else, to generate some excitement. This is a nice, encouraging article to suggest that is the case.


      It’s a contagious disease in Cincinnati. Team owners seen to be infected with Penny-pinchitus. Especially Brown


    So Cotham was a client of Driveline? Shining endorsement there.
    Honestly though, until the top two or three names on that lost change, it doesn’t matter.

    • asinghoff99

      “Went to Driveline after his playing days” is kind of important in regards to your comment.

  5. Jonathan Linn

    Hey Doug. I can’t view your other article on from my phone. Any idea what is going on?

    • jim walker

      I had this issue yesterday with RLN. Refreshing my phone’s browser fixed it, However I did have to continue manual refreshes as I moved from article to article. Google “force phone browser to refresh” if you don’t know how. add “in iOS” or “in Android” to filter the response; and, if you know the name of the browser, put it on the search line too. Hope this helps.

      • jim walker

        101> I can’t get into the RML equivalent of this article but I can get into all the others which display on the home page. Right now I am at home on a Win10 LT using Edge

    • Doug Gray

      Give it a shot now. I changed something that *may* help.

  6. Seat101

    Doug, I can’t get into the minor leagues website because there is an ad that I cannot close. I try to close it and then I have Google asking me why I closed it. But I can’t read the article and read minor league. Does this mean I have to belong to patron?

    • Will Neltner

      I am having this problem too.

    • Doug Gray

      No. It means something is broken somewhere in the chain of either your phone, or a bad faith advertisement getting through that shouldn’t be.

    • Doug Gray

      Give it a shot now. I changed something that *may* have helped.

  7. Seat101

    The front office makes these incredibly big changes and all anyone here has to add is Snark.

    Troll elsewhere

    • jim walker

      Well, I like the changes because they indicate the entire way of going about player development is being changed.

      A number of folks are probably gun shy because the recent history of the team and thus feel this is just more shuffling the chairs on the deck of a sinking ship.

      I’d encourage them to step out and take a look under the hood so to speak. For instance, how about the fact Kyle Boddy describes himself as primarily a software developer and tech guy as opposed to a hands on coach? This shows the direction the Reds are going, sports sience, i.e. development of the right way to physically throw a pitch and figuring out the process of making it a repeatable function.

      • LWBlogger2

        A lot of them are also probably anti-analytics so they don’t see this as the right direction to go.

    • Alex

      So, we have watched Downs and Gray tear it up. Seen them send off Trammel. And all they have to show for it is a year and a half of Bauer, Kyle Farmer and an 87 loss season, are you surprised? This record pay roll is still in the bottom half of baseball.

      Doug tries really hard to sell us on how great this all is, and he deserves credit for that, but the results just aren’t there. Sorry.

      And honestly, just my opinion, I’d never mention the name Caleb Cotham because it just reminds reds fans of the one of the worst trades in baseball history. The Yankees got Gleyber Torres for Chapman, the reds have Driveline expert Caleb Cotham. I know who I would rather have.

      • Doug Gray

        I’m a process over results guy. This is the right process. Sometimes the dealer is showing a 3 and you’re sitting on 19. Every so often the dealer still wins. Doesn’t mean you messed up by not taking a card. It means it didn’t work out. Too many people get mad that you didn’t take the card there even if you made the right decision.

        The Chapman thing was different. That wasn’t a baseball move. That was a PR move. Don’t confuse the two.

      • sanantonefan

        I don’t think that Doug is saying things are great–he said they are pointing in the right direction. I think Doug, and all of us, know that there is a lot of work to do to make this team a contender.

      • lost11found

        But sometimes, the results are an indication that the process is flawed.

        In the sciences we call it ‘design of experiment’. How you set things up and what questions the experiment answers are hand in glove.

        I can set up experiments that will tell me the answer I want to get, but in that case my expermental design is badly flawed.


      Well it seems like they are going to be making moves and in game decisions based solely on #s and what analytics dictate. Saw this over and over again with Bell, he went against common sense multiple times a game. There is a middle ground/mix that has to be found.
      I have zero faith the folks in charge will find it. This has been the worst run organization the last 5 years and they do not deserve trust of any kind.

      • TR

        I’m not sure if Jocketty is still hanging around, but since Williams/Krall have taken over the top spots, I think there’s been a marked improvement in the organization.

      • jim walker

        We agree what they did for the last 5 years got them no where in results. I also agree this season the manager was driven too much by numbers in the sense he micromanaged.

        What would you do to start turning around a long standing mess from there?

        Seems to me they started with the foundation (talent development) while simultaneously trying to upgrade the MLB effort in 2019.

        They won 6 more games than 2018 in a division which fielded 2 playoffs teams and in which the median team won 84 games. And BTW they won the season series against that 84 win team by an 11-8 count. That’s still not where anybody wants them to be but it is a clear step forward.

    • TR

      Snark will not help me get thru the offseason and on to Opening Day 2020.

    • jessecuster44

      These changes are good! Now need to make changes to the roster. Step in the right direction.

    • Mason Red

      I’m sure this will be viewed as being “snarky” but hopefully the new folks of the organization will tell the old folks of the organization that you can’t build a winner with waiver wire signings.

    • jbonireland

      Thank you Seat 101. I get tired of the negativity also.

      • Mason Red

        It’s not negativity. It’s skepticism. There is a difference. The Reds have to do a lot more than this to prove they are actually trying to build a winner. Moves like they have made means NOTHING if they don’t bring in better players.

    • greenmtred

      I’m not denigrating the changes, Seat, but they won’t amount to much if better playes aren’t added, too.

  8. Brad

    Really glad they are investing into more areas. Really wish this would of happened when the rebuild started, hopefully its not too late.

    • TR

      It’s probably not too late since this franchise was established 150 years ago.

  9. Ed

    I hate to be skeptical, and I mean this sincerely and without snark- aside from Bauer, what is the actual track record of Boddy and Driveline? It does seem like a neat way to analyze a pitcher’s stuff- but who has made it through and been an impact player? It seems like a neat thing to try- but I dunno. When I try to read about it, literally every article is just Boddy marketing the innovative analysis they have. There must be other big name customers, right? Not just rehabbing AAA guys who never make it to the bigs??

    Because i’d think putting a guy who hasn’t yet helped anyone break into the bigs, is crazy. There must be success stories-

    Bauer has had one great year and then lots of mediocrity, despite being all-in at Driveline. Him aside, They have helped rehab pitchers who are all just sorta fringe guys, correct?

    Finally- they sent a hitting coach to the Phillies, who wildly underperformed this season.

    Red flags everywhere. I really hope it isn’t, but this stuff seems like smoke and mirrors. Player development and scouting is a huge area where the team is lacking. Shuffling the coaches is fine, buying into new technology is excellent- but you know, take a mediocre guy to driveline and he’ll still be mediocre.

    • Doug Gray

      Their hitting coach to the Phillies works in their farm system, not the Majors. So what the big league club did means nothing.

      • Ed

        Gotcha- my bad! the other stuff about looking for signs of what the pitching folk have tangibly produced at driveline I think still remains to be seen.

  10. Steve Schoenbaechler

    I have no problem with these. Except letting go the minor league developers. We need more of those, not letting them go. I hope they bring some back in, right, quick, and in a hurry.

    I’m not so sure about the Driveline stuff. For, it doesn’t specify who they have helped/developed. I want to see that. If anyone has information on that, please share it. Just what pitchers have they developed? Specifics please.

    For, I can understand all of the tech stuff just fine. However, the tech stuff doesn’t coach. The tech stuff tells the coach what he/she needs to work on with that player. The coach decides how to develop that specific skill in the player.

    For example, the saberstats may tell the coach that a player can’t hit a curveball. But, the coach is going to consider drills for the player in order to assist the player in hitting the curveball, not the saberstats.

    With this video stuff, one needs to keep considering things. For instance, the person interpreting the video may decide that the pitcher needs a higher arm angle on certain pitches, given what the video is showing. However, with the specific anatomy of that pitcher, it may be more harmful for him to attempt to put his arm up in a higher angle for the pitch. So, then, the coach has to consider what else to do. For, he can’t be risking injury if a player can’t get his arm up there in the first place.

    • Ed

      Yep, I agree with al this.

      I think DJ as pitching coach has done a fantastic job using some of this driveline-style analysis in very specific ways we’ve all seen- identifying a new pitch, or just helping to find a better balance between different pitches. For Sonny, first-half Castillo, it seems to have been pretty great- sonny especially.

      But then again- For a guy with good stuff like Amir, he really fell off as the season went on.

      In fact, whatever DJ was doing seemed to have had no positive impact for anyone tenured in the bullpen, hence the implosion and unloading of Duke Hernandez Peralta and then very real struggles from Garrett and Iglesias. Sal Romano was terrible.

      The driveline thing seems like it’s just marketing buzzwords and hype to build a brand and sell a service. Maybe it’s awesome. I don’t see evidence that it is, and if all we have to look at is Matt Boyd and Trevor Bauer….

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Exactly, what “DJ was doing”, not the Driveline stats. They are a tool that a coach would use.

    • Mr T.

      Steve, I can tell you stuff that will blow your mind. There’s a guy Tangotiger I deal with. I will tell exactly what is happening, and why. Email me.

    • Mr T.

      Steve you realize there’s a new slider since last year. You know how it’s thrown and where it came from right?

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Whatever you are talking about, Dude. You act like you need to put the beer down for a while. How much you insult others isn’t a sign of how much of a man you are.

  11. Steve Schoenbaechler

    I just read where the Reds may go after Grandal. I can understand this. But, I would think he costs too much for us. His OBP is good. I was just hoping if we bring in a bigger contract, that we would bring one in that had more pop in his bat than Grandal’s.

    • JoshG

      serious question… What non corner infielders are available in free agency this off season that have more “pop” in their bats?

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Well, I didn’t specify myself to non-corner IF’s, did I? Also, I specified “I would think he costs too much for us”.

        But, I talked before, I believe we “could have” gone after Rendon, then move Suarez to SS, where he played when he came up. Some on here don’t think Suarez could make that move. But, I don’t get their thinking. We just moved two IFers to the OF, CF, a position they never got close to, and they did fine. And, they are trying to say that Suarez wouldn’t be able to move 50 ft to his left, to a position he’s played before?

        Oh, and SS is a non-corner IF position, isn’t it?

        The only thing is, I just heard what Rendon got offered. It would cost us $10 million more than what we would pay Grandal. That idea might be on the way out right now. But, that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be a good idea. I still like the idea.

    • lost11found

      I’m not big on grandal. An aging catcher who has previouly been popped for PED’s, coming off a revival year with a team that has a history of other PED users.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        The Reds need some impact bats. The only Red who had a higher wRC+ than Grandal’s 121 in 2019 was Eugenio Suarez (133). Grandal’s 121 was slightly above his career wRC+ of 118.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        I entirely agree, Tom. I’m not saying I wouldn’t welcome Grandal. It’s just I believe we could do better.

        I mean, like you said, impact “bat”. I do like the OBP he had, yet only this year. And, I’ve said on here we need the OBP. But, his actual BA of 240’s doesn’t impress me. Which means his OBP was higher this year because of his walks (no bat), which makes his stats like OPS even higher.

        Would he be better than what we had this year? Sure. But, for that money? I can’t help thinking we can do better with another player at another position.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Part of competing for an “impact bat” is the likelihood of spending more than you want to spend. I think the Reds know this. If they’re not ready to do that, they won’t get what they need. As much as we’d like to think they will go for a player like Rendon (the top free agent bat), common sense and historical perspective says that won’t happen. The market is likely to be a bit less competitive for the likes of Grandal, Didi Gregorius and Corey Dickerson. (Dickerson’s injury history would keep me from making him an above-market offer.)

    • LWBlogger2

      Steve, I love Suarez but he’s a lot bigger and quite frankly, from what I’ve seen, slower-moving than he was when he first came up. He still has the arm for SS but his range wasn’t great there to begin with. I think extra muscle, less quickness, and being removed from the position aside from some practices and spring training games over the past 3 seasons, probably means that he’s no longer a viable every day MLB SS.

      I like the out of the box thinking but don’t see that one working out.

  12. Moses

    I’m concerned about the continued whitening of the organization. With Hatcher and Thompson leaving in addition to the series of trades sending away African-American players this past year, it’s not looking good. Maybe all of this is coincidental, and I hope that’s the case, but the Reds need to be more intentional about putting people of color in more influential positions, not losing them.

    • Res

      I don’t know about the organization but almost every day more than half of the starters every day were from Central America in Aquino, J Iglesias, Peraza, Suarez, Galvis, plus R Iglesias, and then Puig. And then Amir and Phil Ervin from the US

      • Moses

        Let’s not confuse African-Americans with Latinos, and, I don’t think any of those players are even Central American, are they? Looks like South American and Caribbean to me, besides Ervin and Garrett, of course. In any case, we need more Ervins and more Garretts, not fewer.

    • CP

      Who are the African-American players that you reference?

      • Moses

        Trammell, Downs, Gray, Long. All top-ten Reds’ prospects. All now gone.

    • RedNat

      interesting comment Moses. in order for the reds to really be competitive from an attendance standpoint they need to get more fans coming from the city itself to the games. particularly the weekday games. the city is predominantly African American so yes, I agree we need to do a better job of developing African American players and coaches. that is one reason I was upset at the trading of Taylor Trammel.

    • I-71_Exile

      This is nonsense. You hire the best people available regardless of melanin content or nationality. I love Billy Hatcher the man and the player, but his coaching abilities—especially as Reds third base coach left much to be desired.

    • doofus

      I only see Cincinnati RED when I see our players or off-field personnel.

      I do not think that the positions vacated by Hatcher and Thompson have been filled yet. I believe that there were also Caucasians let go that were not players. Turner Ward comes to mind.

      Also, there were Caucasian players traded: Homer Bailey, Scooter Gennett, Scott Moss, Tanner Roark (traded for an African-American).

      The Cincinnati Reds need to put the most qualified people in ALL positions regardless of color.

      • Moses

        Agreed, but that sadly rarely happens when all the people hiring for openings are white. History shows us that people hire people they’re comfortable with, and that often translates to hiring more of the same (white) instead of always hiring the best candidate. That’s why the flawed Rooney Rule is in place.

      • doofus

        Dusty Baker? I like Dusty. He had style.

      • doofus

        Moses, let’s cut to the chase. Who are the best candidates for each of the open positions in your opinion?

      • doofus

        Moses, what you say is not true, that only white people are hired for positions. Milt Thompson and Billy Hatcher were hired. Dusty Baker was hired.

  13. Steve Schoenbaechler

    One move I didn’t like, and it isn’t listed here, is getting rid of Danny Darwin. I liked him. There was something about him I believe we should have kept. I mean, if I recall correctly, one of the reasons we have had so many young stud pitchers come through in recent years was, they all seemed to go through Darwin in AA. It was when they hit AAA and Price up here was when they went down.

    I mean, when Darwin was up here last year after we got rid of Price, I thought he did a fine job. I was sort of hoping he was going to stay in that position.

    And, we are getting rid of him? I can’t help thinking, we need more people like him. We need more developers, not fewer.

    • jim walker

      They need developers who embrace the new tools and processes they want to put into place. Maybe that’s why Darwin is gone; maybe not; but a real possibility. If so, that doesn’t mean Darwin isn’t good at his way, it means the organization is centralizing and standarding which requires people on board with path they chose.

  14. Eric

    At the risk of sounding snarky (because some o’ y’all are right) – this is a straightforward question – who’s in charge of engineering some TOOTBLAN Avoidance around here? Has that person been ousted/replaced yet?

    Tied for 28th in times caught stealing 2nd base (33)

    Tied for 3rd-worst in pickoffs (16)

    Tied for 21st in Outs-On-Base (53) – doesn’t include pickoffs, caught stealing or force-outs. Includes T-28th in OOB at home plate.

    29th in Run Scoring Percentage (28%) – percentage of times a baserunner eventually scores a run. Yes, I’ll acknowledge that this one is somewhat dependent on the players behind the baserunners actually being able to HIT.


    • Ed

      Maybe the tootblans trickle down to the minors, hence ditching their minor league third base coach? It’s been pretty crazy this year- those stats are discouraging. Even the vets makin silly moves

    • LWBlogger2

      Good point about all the outs on the bases. That needs to be addressed. Giving away outs is bad. It’s even worse than station-to-station baserunning. Would like to see outs-on-base as a percentage of total numbers on base minus runners on base that were erased by force-out.

    • doofus

      The worst base runners are Suarez and Votto, two veterans! Why are the coaches to blame?

  15. RedNat

    geez , what did poor Billy Hatcher do to upset the reds. I mean without him no way we win the 1990 world series and they demote him from 3rd base coach to minor league outfield coach to being let go? I actually thought he would have been a pretty good head coach

    • doofus

      How do his 1990 WS heroics help the present day coaching of players?

  16. Optimist

    Any interest in a veteran FA starter – 160 IP, WAR 1.8, ERA+ 100, apparently in good health? Likely could be had cheap!

  17. Matt

    Who will replace Billy Hatcher, Jody davis, Milt Thompson Danny Darwin.

    Any ideas

  18. doofus

    “Why wouldn’t this be accepted? It’s just obvious that having the most runners on base makes the most sense,” Boddy says

    I am starting to like what is coming in 2020!

  19. Indy Red Man

    Someone tell Bell about the changes because batting Tucker/Iggy 5th all season didn’t match up with any modern analytics. Actually it wouldn’t have made sense in any era.
    Running Hernandez out there again and again and again and again despite the fact that he NEVER got the job done at that point. I don’t think I watched a full game after that.

    Another example of Bell’s incompetence. Iggy doesn’t walk and doesn’t have much power, but he does make contact and go the other way regularly. Sounds like a great guy for hit-n-runs with a guy on 1st, but Bell rarely did it. He’d rather watch him hit into a doubleplay. You can fix the car as much as you want, but the first thing you need to win a race is a good driver!

    • Pete

      Absolutely. And one problem can expose others: how competent is a FO that hires David Bell? And keeps him? You see how STL, ATL, TB and WAS managers are producing and Bell is not in their class. It’s like leaps and bounds better. David Bell is a very smart man, no doubt, but he is the wrong guy for the job. No matter what anyone tells us, the job is critical to the teams success.

      Look at WAR: if David Bell is a -2 or -3 WAR as a manager and the Reds hire a +3 r +4 WAR manager, that could be a difference of 7 wins, it’s huge. Upgrade any spot on the roster by +7 games and all of a sudden we have a much better and different team.

      As you allude to, put together a playoff contending team but if you are not lead by a playoff contending manager, is dreaming of a postseason appearance mining fool’s gold?

      • doofus

        Please, with all due respect Stl, Atl, TB and Was have rosters that are much more talented than the Reds.

      • Pete

        Do you work? If so, you produce – it’s what workers do. The CEO and janitor both produce. To be of value, you must produce…

        Heck fire Bell now or after 2020. We only lose another season after the last 6, what’s one more? Hopefully that’s all.

      • doofus

        Does anyone think that IF, the Reds roster was filled with players comparable to those on any of the playoff teams David Bell would be running out match-up (platoon-like) lineups every game?

        THE ROSTER WAS NOT TALENTED ENOUGH TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THIS SEASON. This cannot be totally put on David Bell’s shoulders.

        Did David Bell make rookie manager mistakes? Yes, they all do.

        Did the front office do all it could do to build a talented roster? No, but it takes time. Last offseason was the first evidence I have seen, and I am sure that others on this board agree, that Castellini is stepping back and allowing Williams/Krall to do their thing.

        Did the players always produce, did they always execute? After all they are the people that DIRECTLY effect the score of a game. Unequivocally I say heck NO! After all, this is a family oriented forum.

        The Reds, managed by David Bell last season produced 75 wins. Twelve percent more than the previous season. A 12% INCREASE OVER THE PREVIOUS SEASON IS A POSITIVE THING! Yet, people on this board constantly vent against David Bell.

        My professional sports teams have “produced” (this seems to be the word of the day by some) 15 Championships in my lifetime. I expect all of them to be competitive, to make the playoffs, each year. However, I also realize that this is not entirely possible. That some of my teams DO NOT HAVE THE TALENT TO DO THAT. But, I do expect improvement when a championship is not attained. I believe that the Reds did improve in 2019.

        Why can some not celebrate that and move on to 2020?

  20. Old-school

    Mlb traderumors has an article up on statcast data for upcoming FA.

    Josh Donaldson has had an incredible year and re- established himself has an elite hitter. Wonder if he would play 2b. He would also be perfect insurance at 3b if Suarez got injured.

    • doofus

      “Perfect” insurance at what cost?

      Why would he sign if he knew the Reds want him to play 2B? He has never played 2B in 10 major league seasons, and only 11 innings in the minors.


      • Old-school

        He had a shoulder injury and dead arm and DL stint in 2018 because he couldn’t throw to first base from 3rd. He signed a 1 year high AAV deal with the Braves to re-establish his value. At 33, might be worth looking at his bat since his 2018 season in Toronto was defined by a bad throwing arm at third base.