The trade deadline came and went at 4pm today. And then Major League Baseball writers everywhere began sharing news of the most insane trades. The latest trade announcement, at 4:16pm was from Mark Sheldon of who announced that Scooter Gennett has been traded from the Cincinnati Reds to the San Francisco Giants.

An impending free agent, Scooter Gennett missed most of the season with a groin injury suffered late in spring training. He’s been back with Cincinnati for three weeks now, and is hitting .212/.232/.258 on the season through 20 games played. In 2018 he was an All-Star. In 2017 he was even better at the plate, though in 140 fewer plate appearances. He’s owed, roughly $3,250,000 the rest of the season.

Bobby Nightengale of the Cincinnati Enquirer just tweeted that the Reds will be getting a player to be named later in the deal.

Perhaps the player to be named will come shortly. With the deadline being so close, it’s possible that they agreed to the deal simply to get the paperwork filed in time. But in some cases a trade with a player to be named later comes with conditions where there are two groups of players that a team will be able to choose from in the future depending on how the acquired player performs.

Scooter Gennett wasn’t in Cincinnati very long. But his two-and-a-half years were outstanding for the Reds. It’s likely that he’ll be in the record books for the franchise forever. His 4-home run game will likely never be topped in franchise history. His personality and play made him an absolute fan favorite in all of redleg nation.

As for what this means moving forward, if I had to guess, I’d bet we see a lot more of Josh VanMeter at second base. You will probably get some mixing in of Jose Peraza and Derek Dietrich there, too. At this point in time, though, it seems clear which of those three players should be playing the most. That could change in the future, but right now VanMeter is clearly the best of the bunch.

107 Responses

  1. Tyler B.

    Doug, what do you expect in return? Any names in mind that we could be expecting?

    • KDJ

      Probably not Bumgarner.
      Will miss the Legend.
      Play JVM.

  2. RedsMonk65

    How’d you get that up so fast?!

  3. Sliotar

    Scooter went from a waiver wire pick-up to making $10 million a year for his childhood club.

    Kudos to him.

    And, kudos to front office for “clearing the decks” on Scooter, Roark, Puig.

    Given how 2020 is the “mother of all-ins”…. the next 2 months is early Spring Training. Let “the sorting” commence at certain positions.

    A 1-8 start next season will be very no bueno.

    • Steven Ross

      Ironic to see where the Reds are on August 1st after our infamous start: 7 games under then and 6 games under now. Talk about a .500 team. Still time to make a run but need to see a streak of 8 or 9 out of 10.

    • Grand Salami

      That might be an overstatement. He’s starting to return to form somewhat but he hasn’t shown much power still.

  4. SoCalRedsFan

    Hopefully VanMeter gets most of the playing time at 2B.

    • Klugo

      Like to see Peraza, Vanmeter and Ervin all start everyday in some form or fashion.

      • Klugo

        And Winker too. Vs LHP as well as RHP.

  5. Rut

    Best of luck to Scooter.

    Really like that the FO moved him, we just really do need to see what JVM can do. And now we can… so the ptnl is just the icing on that cake.

  6. CI3J

    If VanMeter goes to 2nd, who plays the outfield? Does this mean Aquino is coming up?

    • Pete

      This would be like Christmas in July to this fan.

      • Michael E

        +1 here Pete.

        I like moving Gennett. Hopefully this ends any chance of a long-term overpay. We got the best of Scooter for sure, but the calls to extend him given his age and recent injuries, not feeling it. It’s just not smart thinking, it’s emotional thinking paying for yesteryear. Given What some of the younger guys are showing, I am not that concerned.

      • RP

        It should be VanMeter at 2B and Aquino in RF, with Winker/Ervin platoon in LF. Anything else would be just wrong.

      • Pete

        RP, I agree. Aquino has the potential to get folks to GABP like no one since Griffey, Jr. When everyone sees how far and high he hits homers, they will be astonished. Pray he can reach his potential it would so great for baseball in Cincinnati. Maybe Doug will favor us will a profile if he ever has any free time.

      • Jim Walker

        I don’t really disagree with you; but, how do you sit a guy who has done what Ervin has done at the MLB level this year without giving him some sort of look versus RH pitching. It is worth noting that in the last 2 months of 2018 when Ervin was playing everyday, his OPS vs RH pitching was .786 and wRC+ of 108.

        Accordingly I would not be surprised to see them start out with Ervin playing every day and Aquiño as Winker’s platoon partner simply because Winker has been substantially worse versus LH pitching than Ervin versus RH pitching.

        Also, it could just come down to how many LH pitchers they figure to see in the next 2-3 weeks.

    • Jim Walker

      Various reports that Aquiño has been brought up. Hopefully he actually will be used and not sit around as the last bench player.

      Maybe a double platoon in the corner OF spots? Dietrich and Winker as the LH hitters with Ervin and Aquiño from the RH side?

  7. Steve Schoenbaechler

    “But in some cases a trade with a player to be named later comes with conditions where there are two groups of players that a team will be able to choose from in the future depending on how the acquired player performs.”

    That is a very good point and one I could believe here. For, I can’t imagine any team trading for Scooter right now, actually. But, if Scooter was to find his bat, he would definitely be worth it to a team.

    So, given that, I could see one group of players (even if it’s just one player) if Scooter finds his bat or the second group of players (even if it’s just one player) of Scooter never finds his bat this season.

    Ultimately, for the Reds, I see this more of a salary dump, at least right now. Odds were drastic, I believe, that the Reds weren’t going to re-sign Scooter. And, they still could during the off-season, at a low base, high incentive contract, if the Reds want to. I would have to say no to re-signing Scooter. I believe there are enough options out there for us to consider for 2nd base.

    • Grand Salami

      Can the PTBNL terms be graduated?

      Like the reds bet on scooters improvement and get a certain threshold for a certain performance after the trade? I’m guessing no.

      • Jim Walker

        Doug pointed out elsewhere that often there are 2 separate lists of possible PTBNL agreed to at the time of a trade and depending on performance criteria the “receiving” team picks from either the “A” or “B” list.

        He also said maybe it was just a matter of saying a PTBNL because they were up against the deadline clock and needed to get the paperwork filed. In this case, the actual return would be figured out later.

    • A Red in Cards Land

      I get why Scooter is not in the Reds long term plans. However, they mismanaged him this year. He missed the entire first half of the season and had to face MLB pitching after, I think it was 12 minor league at bats, and those were not all at AAA.
      His struggles at the plate were what should have been expected with that kind of rehab. Rushing him back only diminished what the Reds could get for him.

    • jbonireland

      As Doug pointed out in another thread, the more cash given, the higher the player in the other players system. See Jamison Hanna we got from Oakland. We wound up with Oaklands No. 8 prospect on MLB’s 30 best player list for them. I’m just not sure how good the Giants best 30 player list is.

  8. Logan

    Will the Reds be transitioning Senzel back to 2nd then?

    • Satchmo

      As long as he can play a competent center, that’s where he stays. You have to remember that certain positions have a lower threshold for offensive production than others. If you can play short, center, or catcher people will overlook a weaker stick. Second basemen and corner outfielders need a good bat. 1st and 3rd basemen almost have to have elite bats.

      Senzel’s bat profiles as average at 3rd, good at second, elite in center.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        That “lower threshold” is no written rule. As for these Reds, I believe they would be happy to get more offense however they can get it.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Given what stat you look at, that can be different. For instance, if you look at his WAR, he ranks about the same at 2nd as he does in CF compared to the rest of the NL, lower at SS and 3rd. Compared to what we have already, Senzel would be an uplift at SS, downgrade at 3rd and 2nd. If you consider OPS+, he’s average with the league.

        But, then, it wouldn’t be unreasonable for anyone to consider that, since this is Senzel’s first full season with the Reds, he could still improve. If you look at his minor league stats, his batting is much better, especially his time in Louisville last year. With his demeanor at the plate, I would bank on him improving.

        As well as, I agree that Senzel is playing competent CF right now, and he’s never played the position. It wouldn’t be unreasonable at all, then, to consider the other OF’s to play CF as well, since they have played OF the entire time they’ve been with the organization.

        Not saying the Reds should or shouldn’t move Senzel to 2nd or SS. Only saying I don’t see it being an unreasonable move at all to move Senzel to 2nd.

        Then, that would open up more playing time for Winker, Ervin, VanMeter, and Aquino when he comes up. The three that are up here have been hitting well, especially Ervin and VanMeter. And, Aquino has been mashing AAA this season.

        It will be interesting to see what the Reds commit to during the off season.

  9. Brady

    Cash Considerations hit .291 at Double-A last year.

    • Brady

      Sarcasm aside, they likely weren’t re-signing him, but this doesn’t make a ton of sense other than maybe allowing Scooter to go somewhere where he can get more consistent playing time and compete.

      To me, it says a couple things though:
      – They want to give VanMeter and Ervin an extended look, which is obvious. And a good thing.
      – They may seem some upside with Colon.
      – They’re going to finally see what they have in Aquino.
      – Senzel is probably staying in CF, also somewhat obvious.

      I don’t think they will regret dealing Scooter, but I was rooting for him. Yes, he had defensive shortcomings but if he hadn’t got injured I would have liked to see how he produced this season. It’s a bit surprising that most wrote off the last two years as a fluke (a sentiment shared by the FO, evidently) and I hope he proves everyone wrong.

      • Brady

        Scratch that about Colon. I didn’t realize he was 30.

      • RedsMonk65

        Still have Blandino in AAA, too.

  10. Klugo

    Now sign Lindor in the offseason and we’ll be talking.

    • LWBlogger2

      Francisco Lindor? The SS in Cleveland? They can’t sign him. He’s not a free agent for a couple more years. They could trade for him but, wow, I really don’t know what the “ask” from the Indians would be. It would probably start Senzel and Green and perhaps India + more. For Lindor, I think you’d have to bowl them over with an offer.

  11. RedsFan11

    Very happy with the front office. All 3 players that should have been traded were traded. Even if scooter and Roarks return are low prospects it’s better than nothing. You were not going to re sign these guys.

    I was proven wrong by those new front office. Well done

    • Hotto4Votto

      I think Hannah’s a pretty solid prospect in the Roark deal. #8 in A’s system, probably near 10 for Reds. But agree the FO is having a nice trade deadline.

  12. Mark Moore

    I did NOT see that one coming …

    • ToBeDetermined

      I did not see that one coming either.
      He was an excellent hitter for the past 2 years and we couldn’t seem to trade him. Maybe the asking price was just too much (Bob C. didn’t want him traded) now he is traded and who knows how he’ll perform ?

      • RedsMonk65


        Josh Van Meter was once a PTBNL.

        Scooter was a waiver pickup who gave us a great bat for a couple years. The clubhouse, I’m sure, will miss him, as will most fans. I wish him well.

  13. Mark Moore

    Just read MLB Trade Rumors

    IMO, this “July only” thing is a lot more exciting, or at least it has been this afternoon. The Astro’s appear to be pouring it on. Dodgers as well. Even our old friend Dan Straily is heading to a contender.

    Wonder what the next hour will bring as all the reports come in. Regardless, I’m happy with what I saw out of our FO. Two “fan favorites” moved knowing they were lost at the end of the year to FA.

  14. Bruuuuuccceee

    It’s a bummer we weren’t able to unload him at the trade deadline last year, or in the offseason when his value was higher. I think at the time we all believed Scooter wouldn’t be on the next Reds playoff team so why not extract some value from him.

  15. JB WV

    Good job by the FO dealing all pending free agents but Wood, who we can now watch and see if he deserves an offer. If he decides to test the market and declines a qualifying offer, the Reds receive a draft pick, right?

    • Colorado Red

      Won’t decline a QO.
      It will be more then he will get with the injuries.
      I hope they make a run at him.

      • LWBlogger2

        I agree 100%. There is no way he declines a QO. Would love the Reds to try to sign him to a deal with a fair base ~$4-million and some nice escalators that could with reasonable performance and health get that deal into the $15-million range. Freakin’ Matt Harvey got $11-million from the Angels after all. So, they aren’t getting Wood for nothing.

  16. docproc

    I loved Scooter–one of my favorite players of the past decade–but this was a good move for us and for him. JVM every day for the rest of the season.

  17. Jim t

    Really excited to see how things play out the rest of the season. JWM gets a shot at 2nd, Ervin and Aquino get at bats in outfield along with Winker and Senzel. Bauer slides into the rotation in what I think is a very formidable group and the bull pen is intact. As of right now we are 0-0 on the year. Will be fun seeing how the youngsters perform and the rest of the season unfolds. In my eyes this trade deadline was a very good start to the off season. Have a lot of games to access and answer some questions.

  18. Hotto4Votto

    So Reds lose Gennett, Puig, and Roark from 25/40 man roster and add Bauer.

    Two spots open up currently on 25/40 man roster. Who fills them? Aquino is probably the fan favorite to come up. I’d personally like to see Kuhnel added and brought up as well. Both would need protected this winter anyway and both could help now.

    Additionally, Trammell would have needed to be added this winter, so that’s one spot the Reds will need.

  19. JayBird

    random, but does anyone remember alex blandino? where did that guy go?

      • RedAlert

        Doug, you know I’ve been as harsh onnthe front office as anybody . So I will step up today and give them credit for the good work at the trade deadline ! They showed me something ….

    • RedsMonk65

      Would like to see him brought back up as a bench piece. Can play multiple positions.

    • Mason Red

      What did they show you RA? That they can do the basics of trading players they weren’t going to keep? The real test will be this offseason if they decide to bring in major talent. If not they haven’t done enough to be competitive. There’s simply not the talent here yet.

      • RedAlert

        Have you seen what they’ve done for about the last 4-5 years ? – nothing meaningful , nothing . Maybe Bauer end up signing long term and Reds May have one of the top rotations in baseball – depending on what they do with Wood also . But it’s progress. – and I do agree with you bout needing more
        talent .

  20. Steve Schoenbaechler

    As an additional note, looking at the players the Reds have let go so far, they just opened up $50 million on the payroll for next year.

    I hope they get the Bauer situation settled quickly. That way, they see exactly how much they can offer going after other FA’s. Bauer’s getting $13 million this season. Think we can get him for $15 million next season? I would consider longer. But, from what I’ve heard, Bauer won’t consider long term deals anymore. If we do long-term, what about 3-4 years at $17 million per?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      It’s very likely that they will try to settle on a one-year contract to avoid arbitration. If they don’t, Bauer will receive whatever the arbitration hearing arbitrator decides. It would be nice if Bauer bonds with Derek Johnson and feels like it would be worth it to sign up for more than one year, but it’s impossible to predict.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        I entirely agree. I just hope it happens sooner than later. For, I wouldn’t want this hanging over our heads, for example, going into next spring training.

      • Pete

        He also shares Votto’s obsession of self-improvement as a ballplayer. I can easily see the two forming a bond. Same with Johnson, I’m highly optimistic about Bauer and believe Cincy will be a very good fit. We can win this division.

  21. CaptainHook

    Aren’t PTBNL sometimes recent draft picks who are not technically eligible to be traded?

  22. Lost11found

    Dick Williams on mlb radio right now. 6:00 est. channel 89 Sirius XM

      • Lost11found

        Generally he was saying that the Bauer move was mainly between Cleveland and reds but Cleveland GM was working on the deal to send trammel to pads. As has been speculated they see bauer as key rotation member this year and next. No info on pbtnl from SF.

        Best part of interview was him describing going to clubhouse and dugout to pull puig before his last AB of the night and was discussing trade with bell when he could see Garett head toward pit dugout. Then he went back to clubhouse and watched the whole thing with a ‘this isn’t happening’ mindset.

  23. Pete

    Huh, Aquino not in Louisville’s lineup tonight.

  24. Indy Red Man

    I think they’ll miss Puig’s defense in RF, but I’m happy overall! Knowing the Reds they’ll probably run with DD at 2B and still find a way to block Ervin & Aquino, but maybe they’ve turned a corner and they’ll plan for the future? Hopefully they can spend some $ and get a quality hitter and some help in the pen this offseason.

    Bauer reminds me a little of when Jake Arrieta came to the Cubs 5 years ago. Both have kind of a funky delivery and Bauer should have the advantage for a while since he’s new to NL hitters!

    • LWBlogger2

      Arrieta was sticking around for a few years at least. Bauer is essentially a rental.

  25. Don

    Very impressive 20 hours by the front office to clear space to see what Ervim, JVM and Aquino can do.

    Gennett was a fun story for last 2 years
    Puig was fun to watch this year
    Roark is a pros pro as a pitcher, always battle never give in.

    Team proved to be a 500 team after a 1-8 start with them. Time to try something new and see what happens.

    Great Job FO

  26. Pete

    It’s official Reds call up Aristides Aquino from Louisville.

    • RojoBenjy


      Here’s your chance, kid. Go get em.

    • wutinthehail

      I’m just afraid he is going to make Drew Stubbs look like a contact hitter.

      • Pete

        Interesting thing is Stubbs wasn’t a power hitter, Aquino is the poster boy for power hitters. K-rate of 25% and if you look at the home run leaders in MLB, he fits right in. If he hits his share of HR’s, no problem.

        Two comps:
        Suarez 27.1%
        Puig 22.0%

        If he hits as poorly as Drew, he will be back in AAA next year. You’re going to like this guy…a lot.

      • wutinthehail

        I meant that Stubbs struck out A TON (I mean A TON) and Aquino is going to make him look like a contact hitter.

        If he is striking out at a rate of 25% in AAA it could easily be over 30% in the MLB

      • Pete

        Unlike you I can’t predict the future, so I’ll take your word for it. Maybe they can cancel the call up.

      • LWBlogger2

        That is a distinct possibility.

    • RedsMonk65

      For sure?

      Excellent. Looking forward to all these young guys starting — Senzel, Van Meter, Ervin/Aquino, Winker. Sounds like Van Meter will take over 2B, for the most part. Wonder who starts in right–Aquin or Ervin?

      Future is now. Excited about 2020, too.

  27. B-town fan

    Doug do you think Trammel wouldn’t have been traded if he wasn’t having a down season?

  28. Don

    Reds starting pitching gives them a chance to win every night now.

    Castillo, Gray, Bauer, Wood, Disco.

    Disco is the weakest of the 5 and he has had one bad start in last 9 and that bad start he struck out the first 6 Brewers of the game and then imploded.

    That is 4 starters who would be a #1 or #2 on most MLB teams and one that is a #4 maybe #3 on some staffs.

    They are probably to many teams to overcome but I do not think anyone will want to come face the reds starting pitching as there is not a true weak link right now.

    Not quite what Houston has now but the Reds rotation is really good.

    • Pete

      As far as making the playoffs, this weekend will tell us a lot. A sweep, I’m thinking we might have a 25-30% chance but sweeping the Braves is a tall order. Not likely but not impossible either. As you allude to, with this starting staff and new/improved offense I could see a 10-15 game winning streak. Never would have said that before yesterday.

  29. BigRedMike

    Really glad that Gennett is gone. This move shows the FO is understanding how baseball works.
    Obtain solid pitching via trades/free agency and utilize young position players. A 30 year old Gennett was not going to provide value going forward.
    Instead of holding on to pending free agents, the FO obtained something for them. All 3 players traded have players ready to step in.
    Being sentimental and worrying about fan favorites is not a recipe for success. Look at the turnover on the rosters of the elite teams.

  30. TR

    Action was needed and the front office got it done. Keep up the good work. The Reds starting pitching staff is the best I can recall and I’ve been a fan since the late 1940’s. Adding to that, the Reds have a top-flight pitching coach.

  31. Shchi Cossack

    This has been a fabulously entertaining day. I can’t remember a trade deadline day that even approached today. Of course, the Reds usually sit on the sidelines so any activity that does occur immediately loses it’s entertainment value for this Reds fan…BUT NOT TODAY!!!

    On the heels of the offseason trade with the Dodgers, today effectively said adios to the WJ/BC run baseball operations. Had Puig and Wood performed as expected and Scooter avoided his 3+ month injury, today could have been significantly different, but ya gotta play the cards you’re dealt.

    The Scooter deal placed the finishing touch on what I believe is the game plan for 2019, 2020 and the future for this Reds team. That future looks a tad bit foggy right now, but the plan looks exciting and the forecast is for clearing skies over GABP.

  32. Shchi Cossack

    The Reds have the pitching for the remainder of the 2019 season. The starting staff of Castillo, Gray, Bauer, DeSclafani and Wood looks solid to carry the team through the final 56 games over the next 2 months. Iglesias, Garrett, Lorenzen and Sims make up a solid top of the bullpen, but the quality drops precipitously after those 4 pitchers. R.J. Alaniz is already on the 40-man roster and looks ready for a shot at the Reds MLB bullpen. Joel Kuhnel also looks ready for a shot the Reds MLB bullpen if the Reds added him to the 40-man roster. Cody Reed has been on the IL for 2 months, but he should get a shot at the Reds MLB bullpen as soon as he recovers and rehabs. Here’s hoping the Reds can extend Wood and/or Bauer to lock the starting rotation down while Greene and Lodolo progress to MLB readiness. Sims and Mahle could provide serviceable depth as starters or relievers.

    • Jefferson Green

      Love the comments, Cossack. One point: I think Mahle’s stuff can play up out of the bull pen – I expect him to be more effective there and more than ‘serviceable’ (which is more a description of where he is as a starter right now without a 3rd/’out’ pitch).

  33. Shchi Cossack

    The Reds opened the lineup for extended auditions by Winker, Senzel, Ervin, VanMeter and Aquino. Winker and Ervin will hopefully continue to platoon in LF for the next 2 months. Senzel should play CF and continue to improve his defense. VanMeter will hopefully start at 2B for the next 2 months. Aquino will hopefully start every game in RF for the next 2 months. I love Iglesias’ defense at SS, but it’s time to plop Peraza at SS for the next 2 months and let him sink of swim. Barnhart and Casali will share the catc hing duties with Votto at 1B and Suarez at 3B. If the Reds are committed to keeping J. Iglesias and Derek Dietrich through the end of the 2019 season, then Farmer becomes the off man out again with Bell’s 8-man bullpen. By the end of the 2019 season, the Reds should have a clear picture of the team’s needs going into the offseason. I believe someone has been slipping some Dead Rabbit into my coffee today. I really think that if Bell puts the young upstarts in the lineup and just lets them play, the Reds could surprise a lot of people. A lineup, featuring 5 positions hitting well over .800 OPS, with Votto and Peraza producing a .750-.780 OPS, could string together a lot of wins with this pitching staff over the next 2 months. Could they finish with a 40-16 or 38-18 run? Why the heck not!?

    • Slicc50

      I like the way you think! I agree, why the heck not!? The Reds are only 6 1/2 games back in the division. It’s crazy that everyone thinks they are too far behind. Or, there are too many teams to jump over. The division is the ticket to the playoffs for the Cincinnati Reds! An 8 to 10 game winning streak changes everything! I love these trades. I believe the Reds have just improved their rotation and improved their offense at the same time by opening up a couple of spots for kids who are hitting the ball very well.

      • Mason Red

        Well call me crazy but they are too far behind. This team has not shown the ability to win 8 out of 10 or 10 out of 12 that it’s going to take to really get back in the race. And now they are a different team with the trades. They didn’t add a tremendous about of talent. Basically one pitcher who admitted after the trade that he’s been pitching with injuries. The Reds needed to make the moves they made but they aren’t any better than they were talent wise. I’m not being a downer but this franchise doesn’t have a lot of talent and they continue to fill the roster with castoffs in hopes they will revive their careers. At some point the Reds have to add some big time talent.

      • Jefferson Green

        To clarify, TB said he was pitching with injuries and now is full go. If the kids hit – and yes, that is a real ‘if’ over two months of baseball – the Reds are a better team post-trade.

  34. Shchi Cossack

    We don’t know what the final 2 months will bring, but I believe we can figure that the 2 positions where the Reds could make the biggest improvement to the team performance are catcher and shortstop. If the Reds are willing to open the bank and go hard after a top tier catcher, there should be one available. The Reds will have to be VERY serious about making THE move to contend in both the NLCD and the playoffs next season. Yasmani Grandal will pass on his $16MM mutual option in favor of a $2MM buyout. I do not believe the Brew Crew will pursue a pricey extension for the 31-year-old catcher, making him a FA with no QO attached. The only FA SS worth a gamble would be Didi Gregorius, but Gregorius would come with a QO attached and the 30-year-old shortstop is coming off a serious injury that kept him out of action for 2 months. Gregorius produced 8 WAR over the combined 2017 & 2018 seasons.

    • Eric

      Me: scroll…scroll…scroll…STOP! “Aw, MAN, I’ve gotta see what The Ol’ Cossack has to say.

      You never disappoint, man. Will be interesting, though, to see if that’s how it pans out with Grandal, and what happens with Gregorius. The Reds do need C and SS. Also, would be nice to further hone that bullpen. Garrett and Lorenzen plus one could be the Nasty Boys 2.0 in 2020, if you ask me!

    • BK

      Couldn’t agree more. I’ll be watching Grandal and Gregorius for the remainder of the season along with Alex Wood. As of now, those three, should be the Reds to targets.

      Let’s hope Aquino and VanMeter lock down RF and 2B respectively. I think we can man the bullpen internally by replacing Hughes and Hernandez with Reed, Romano and Kuhnel. 2020 could be a great year.

    • CI3J

      Grandal and Gregorius, you say? Two prospects the Reds traded away? Would be interesting to see either one come back, but I think the Reds need to look younger elsewhere.

      As someone else said, why not go all in and get Lindor? That would be a true splash the cash signing of intent, and with the money saved today, they could afford it.

      Also, I think the elephant in the room is that the Reds REALLY need to get more from the 1B position. Votto has generated only 1 WAR to date this season. That ain’t gonna cut it, and he ain’t gonna get better from here on out, and may he even worse next year. They need to find a solution.

      • LWblogger2

        Isn’t Lindor still arbitration eligible and not a free agent until 2022?

    • Q

      I really hope the Reds can sign Grandal. Having him start and Casali a a backup turns the catching position into a strength.

    • Michael W.

      And to think that both of those suggested players were once promising Reds prospects. Ahh, what could have been if we had traded Cozart and Mesorocco instead of these two guys. Goes to show you how big of a crap-shoot trading prospects can be.

      • Jefferson Green

        Yep, and injuries that increase the crap-shoot nature of it all. Gregorius always had more upside than Cozart, but it was injuries that curtailed the careers of Zack and – especially – Mes.

  35. Steve Schoenbaechler

    I just checked something I wasn’t aware of. Many have been talking about looking at Senzel, Winker, Ervin, and VanMeter in the OF, with Aquino coming up. I myself have been talking this may mean that Senzel may be back at 2nd. But, I checked what VanMeter played mostly in the minors. It was 2nd and 3rd. VanMeter at 2nd? Hmmm. That would be interesting to me.

    I just wonder how the FO will set the team up for next season. They have loads of money to spend. They have a good pitching staff set up. They have a nice young core that will hopefully improve even more. It’s going to be interesting. I could see the Reds doing a little. I could see the Reds doing a lot.

    What I have seen them do with the “big club” has been great. I hope they are working on developing the minor leagues, also. For, with our market, I don’t see us outbidding many teams for FA’s. Where, when we lose players to FA, we are going to need to replace them. It would be easiest just moving them up from the minors.