The Reds (44-53) head to Milwaukee to face the Brewers (53-48) and finish a ten game stretch against division opponents. First pitch is at 8:10 EDT from Miller Park.

A week ago, I wrote the first game preview for the Cubs series, and I emphasized that it was time for the Reds to prove they could stay in the NL Central race. Well, it’s seven games later and the Reds did not take advantage of the opportunity that was before them. The Reds went 2-5 against the Cubs and Cardinals and are now nine games back in the NL Central. They could salvage this stretch against the Brewers and end up going 5-5, but it looks like it would end up being too late.

Starting Pitchers

Sonny Gray 103.1 3.40 3.36 3.37 28.6% 8.6%
Chase Anderson 77.1 3.96 4.30 4.90 22.9% 7.9%


Did you know that if you look at FIP and xFIP, Sonny Gray has been better than Luis Castillo this season? Even though Castillo has a 2.36 ERA, his FIP and xFIP are both around 3.75, compared to Gray’s 3.37 xFIP. According to Fangraphs, Gray’s 2.6 WAR is .2 higher than Castillo’s. While their strikeout and home run rates are nearly the same, Gray has a much better walk rate. His BB/9 is at 3.14. Castillo has struggled with walking batters at times, as his BB/9 of 4.35 is much higher.

The last time Gray faced the Brewers, he struck out 12 in eight innings at GABP. I was at that game and it’s already been filed in my memory of games that I’ll remember for a long time. He’s struck out 27 batters in 18.1 innings and three starts. His worst start against the Brewers was in June at Miller Park when he gave up four runs on six hits and four walks in 4.1 innings. Even in that game, he still struck out six and the Reds won 11-7.

Lorenzo Cain is 8-for-16 with a 1.141 OPS against Gray. Christian Yelich is 1-for-3 with a home run off him, but I think Yelich has a home run off almost every pitcher in the league these days.


Chase Anderson looks to be having almost the same exact season as last year with a 3.96 ERA in 2019, compared to a 3.93 ERA in 2018. However, he’s definitely improved from a year ago. His FIP this season has dropped from 5.22 last year to 4.30 in 2019. His K/9 has increased, while both his BB/9 and HR/9 have decreased. The HR/9 has seen the most dramatic decrease, going from 1.71 in 2018 to 1.28 in 2019. He’s given up only 11 home runs so far this season. He gave up 30 last season.

Anderson has five pitches, but throws mostly a four-seam fastball and a change-up. He’ll throw his cutter and sinker primarily to left-handed batters and his curve to right-handed batters.

Anderson has already faced the Reds twice this season, once at Miller Park and once at Great American Ball Park, and both have come in the last month. The start at GABP came more recently and he gave up five hits on two runs in five innings.

Joey Votto has walked eight times in 29 plate appearances against him. Eugenio Suarez is only 4-for-21, but has three home runs off him. Phillip Ervin and Nick Senzel are both 3-for-6 against him with a home run.



I don’t need to tell you about the Reds bullpen. You watched the Cardinals series. Raisel Iglesias is still giving up runs, even after being on paternity leave, and his ERA has climbed to 4.04. Amir Garrett is back and pitched an excellent one inning on Saturday.


The Brewers used five relievers in a win over the Diamondbacks Sunday after Brandon Woodruff lasted only three innings. They also used four relievers on Saturday and four relievers on Friday. (None of their starters lasted more than four innings in this series). It would be interesting to know if Brewers fans complain about their team’s relievers wearing out. The Brewers relievers have thrown 402.0 innings in 334 games, while Reds relievers have thrown 326.0 innings in 326 games. (I think Brewers relievers do throw more multiple inning appearances, but I haven’t looked at the stats lately).


1. Nick Senzel (CF)
2. Joey Votto (1B)
3. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
4. Yasiel Puig (RF)
5. Jose Peraza (2B)
6. Phillip Ervin (LF)
7. Jose Iglesias (SS)
8. Juan Graterol (C)
9. Sonny Gray (P)
1. Lorenzo Cain (CF)
2. Christian Yelich (LF)
3. Yasmani Grandal (C)
4. Mike Moustakas (3B)
5. Keston Hiura (2B)
6. Eric Thames (RF)
7. Jesus Aguilar (1B)
8. Orlando Arcia (SS)
9. Chase Anderson (P)

Stat of the Day

I know batting average doesn’t mean much to a lot of people nowadays, but this is impressive. Joey Votto will likely join this group of pitchers one day. Yes, that means I am saying that Votto will be enshrined in Cooperstown.

News and Notes

Sal Romano was called up from Triple-A Louisville to take the place of Tyler Mahle who was placed on the 10-day injured list with a hamstring injury. Lucas Sims will start in the place of Mahle on Wednesday.

-It’s nothing official, but here’s somewhat of an update on Tucker Barnhart.

-First round pick Nick Lodolo gets promoted to Dayton. This makes it even more certain that I will have to make a trip to Dayton before their season ends.

-Narciso Crook was at Double-A Chattanooga at the end of April and now he’s winning awards at the Triple-A level.

-Watch the Reds Twitter account tonight for Jeopardy fun.

199 Responses

  1. Sliotar

    I believe that GABP is “Coors Field East” and distorts things about the Reds hitters, including how we view/value them.

    Leaving out Graterol, few ABs, here are the current 2019 home-away wRC+ splits of the top 7:

    (League average is 100)

    Senzel – Home 88 / Away 124
    Votto – 102 / 86
    Suarez – 136 / 87
    Puig – 116 / 86
    Peraza 57 / 78
    Ervin 143 / 171
    Iglesias 63 / 90

    When only 2 players are within 10% of being league average, one with a very small sample size….it takes a lot to go right to scratch out a win.

    Hence, 19-29 on road.

    I don’t know if/how this can be fixed…but, I do know I would look closely at the exclusive data the MLB teams have, to figure out if Puig can get better on the road.

    Why pay $10-12 million (or whatever) per year, for a guy entering his 30s who is below average on the road? Better to stick a kid there and see if they can be balanced.

    • Sliotar

      More on Suarez…

      Home / Away wRC+

      2016 – 101 / 85
      2017 – 147 / 89
      2018 – 133 / 147
      2019 – 136 / 87

      I commented the other day here it seems he hits much better at GABP.
      The numbers back it up.

      If a guy with a FanGraphs subscription and who watches most Reds games can catch onto Suarez’s splits….you just know MLB scouts and front offices have him pegged.

      • citizen54

        You need to look a little deeper for 2019. Away BABIP .236 compared to career average .302. ISO .245 compared to career average of .167. Seems like the power is there, it’s just that he is getting unlucky away from GABP.

      • citizen54

        Just to elaborate. Suarez was ranked #43rd in trade value according to FG behind only Senzel for the Reds. He’s not a superstar or maybe even an allstar but he is a solid above average player on a team friendly contract.

    • Indy Red Man

      I don’t have the stats, but every time I used to post that gabp=Coors, someone would come back w/the fact that gabp only promotes scoring slightly. It makes sense in a way….yes HRs are inflated, but the small outfield means alot of hits in bigger parks are snagged up. Its going to be hard to win a batting title in Cincy! Coors you have easy HRs AND a ton of bloops & bleeders falling in because the OF is huge and they have to play deep. No comparison whatsover. Keep Puig by the way. Hell we can’t score now? Our 1 run losses turn into 3 run losses

  2. Doc

    I’m confused. Reds relievers have throw 326 innings over 326 games. The Reds have played 97 games; where does 326 come from?

    • ToBeDetermined

      2 years ?
      162 games x 2 years = 324 which is close to 326.

      I don’t know I’m just guessing

    • citizen54

      Games means appearances in that context. If 4 pitchers pitch in a game they each are given one game when it comes to the stat “G.” Hence the stat “G” will always be greater than the number of games a team actually played. So basically, the relievers for the Brewers are going more than one inning per appearance on average.

  3. Seat101

    I don’t twit so I won’t be part of Jeopardy! Night. Here is my game: who is the first player on the 25 man roster to get traded between now and the end of July?

    A) Jose Iglesias
    B) Yasiel Puig
    C) Jesse Winker
    D) Tanner Roark
    E) Michael Lorenzen
    F) Other

    Here’s my order of likelihood

    A). D). E). C). B). F)

    • Indy Red Man

      The Reds value “veteran-ness….aka grit”. They’ll most likely keep Iglesias. Believe it or not….I think I’d roll with Peraza. He will probably remain what he is, but atleast there is a chance he could mature as a player. Iggy is what he is at this point.

      Sad stat:

      Votto 341 at-bats = 8 hrs, 25 rbis, .740 ops
      Hiura 142 at-ats = 9 hrs, 23 rbis, .1000 ops

      Senzel is a nice player, but he’s not taking off half as much as this kid. Hopefully the league will find some holes in his game or Yelich, Hiura, and Hader will propel them well past the Reds for the next few years atleast.

      • Indy Red Man

        Don’t get me wrong. I’m not high on Peraza at all, but this team is grasping at straws. They have about a lottery tickets chance of beating the Cubs or Cards or Milw in the next 3 years so what difference does it make.

      • RojoBenjy

        I’ll take a team of Senzel-type players every day.

    • ToBeDetermined


      I hadn’t even thought about Lorenzen. But, yea, he could be of value to a contending team.

      But, you know what? I don’t think Other has really performed very well this year. I’d think we’d be selling low on him.

      • Seat101

        Great point! Perhaps other teams will see something in Other that we don’t?

      • Indy Red Man

        Good theme….the Reds are kind of like the Others (Nicole Kidman). Dead and everyone knows it but them:)

  4. Pete

    Brewers notes: team just announced their ace Brandon Woodruff is expected miss 6 weeks with an oblique strain. New home for Roarke? Dick, work the phones…

    • ToBeDetermined


      Well, I think we are all very familiar with pitchers with oblique strains.
      6 weeks, LOL — In their dreams.

      Sorry, that’s me just being Cheeky.

      • Pete

        You’re right. Brewers window of oppority is closing, ages:
        Braun: 35
        Cain: 33
        Thames: 32
        Moustakas: 30
        Grandal: 30 and a FA
        C. Anderson: 30
        Gio Gonzalez: 33
        Pina: 32
        Chacin: 31
        Albers: 36
        Jeffress: 31
        Guerra: 34
        Nelson: 30

        Williams might mention this to the Brewers if he gets them on the phone. That’s an old team folks. They better get to playoffs this year.

      • Chris

        Why would Ervin play over winker tonight? Why Peraza over Vanmeter? We are absolute morons.

      • vegastypo

        That’s exactly the problem: We need to see what Ervin can do, and what Winker can do. But with Puig there, there’s no room.

  5. daytonnati

    Narcisco Crook instantly becomes one of the great names in sports. Packy Naughton, move over.

      • Seat101

        By any chance is he a base stealer?

      • daytonnati

        Narciso Crook would be one of the great names in politics 🙂

      • ToBeDetermined

        Just like I said.

        No, seriously Citizen I would never have guessed that.

        Thanks for the explanation

  6. CI3J

    I think we should really appreciate just how lucky the Reds are to have Castillo and Gray to look forward to as the top of their rotation for the foreseeable future. Shades of Cueto/Bronson. Still a ways to go before they can match the playoff rotations from a the Dusty years (who’s Homer?), but it’s still a huge leap from where they were even just last year.

    Now if they can just get some offense….

    • Indy Red Man

      Actually Disco has a 3.07 since June and a 3.60 era after his first 3 starts. He’s throwing harder then ever as well. Thats a pretty solid #3 in my book!

      • Burtgummer

        Yeah but after next season he’ll be 31 and a free agent

  7. Preach

    Glad to have Cowboy on the broadcast, unfortunately we still have THOM!!

  8. Sliotar

    Anyone watching Brewers broadcast?

    Sonny Gray was sitting next to his hat, which had a huge wad of gum on bill.
    He had spit it out moments before.

    Wild routine. Jim Day could do a whole segment on it.

  9. Curt

    So Votto has stopped choking up. When did this start?

  10. BigRedMike

    Great play by Gray
    Really needed that double play

    • Chris

      Our lineup pathetic. Winker and Vanmeter should be playing daily, ESP against righties. Peraza 5th??

  11. vegastypo

    Gee, on that grounder to Peraza way into the hole at second, looks like the shift worked. I see the complaints when the shift doesn’t, but I wonder how many times it does work in comparison.

    • wutinthehail

      It obviously works because teams are doing it more and more.

      • vegastypo

        For context, there are a few people here and there who seem to complain when a batter “beats” the shift, so I wanted to point out how it does work so often. I think that when it works, people take it for granted.

      • BigRedMike

        As noted, teams wouldn’t be utilizing it if it didn’t work. Likely has been a factor in the Reds overall pitching improvement. Also, if the shift is not effective, why are there people in baseball proposing it be eliminated? If it was a bad strategy, the need to eliminate would not be discussed.

      • Wayne nabors

        because big mike,it disproportionately effects left handers,doesnt seem fair that votto and others should always have 5 fielder in right

  12. Preach

    Where was Gray going? Did I miss something?

  13. Indy Red Man

    I respect everything Joey has done with the Reds, but I’m officially over him. He’s made at Sonny for trying to steal 3rd while he was hitting. He never even liked Billy running while he was hitting. Obviously its hard to hit in the big, but cmon? If Sonny/Senzel move up to 2nd/3rd then Joey can score them both. He’s not likely to hit for extra bases. Between his lousy baserunning and his Adrian Gonzalez style fade in performance….its impossible for me to overlook the stranglehold his $25 mil puts on this organization. A market like Cincy simply cannot give lifetime achievement contracts.

    • MK

      It is what you do with a .250 hitter with no power. Votto better get used to it. I read Ken Griffey complain that he was not allowed to run when Morgan was up because that Joe didn’t like him doing it. Difference was Morgan was putting up good numbers at the time.

    • RojoBenjy

      Agreed. Joey chafes me on that one. Looks like a diva there.

  14. Preach

    I see they put both motion. I thought at first it was Gray just doing his own thing

    • vegastypo

      Yeah, can often feel that way.

      Heck, a 7-0 lead was insurmountable for the Reds, too, even when they had the 7.

  15. Roger Garrett

    Its really sad that a major league team would field such a lineup barring injury.Gray has our only hit.Just sad.

    • Sliotar

      Not now. Peraza on the board, though not sure about that exit velocity.

      Alas, inning still ends. Yuck.

  16. Indy Red Man

    Well they’re up 8 games on Miami. I think they have 14th place secured! No participation trophies in the bigs though. I’ve had enough. 3.5 innings is more then I watched all weekend, but 3.5 too many.

    • Eric

      When I get disgusted with the non existant offense I DVR the game and go fast forward. It works for me.

  17. C Holbert

    What does it say that Peraza, he has been better of late, and he is probably the future at SS, is the 5th place hitter tonight……the Reds have serious offensive issues….

    • RojoBenjy

      Well–I read earlier somewhere that the Reds were never buyers.

      I think that is the answer to your question about what that means.

      • Sliotar

        Nice job, Votto, on one of the meatiest 0-2 pitches seen around here in a while.

        Third time through. One big hit needed.

  18. C Holbert

    So was Gray and Senzel supposed to stay put and let JV load the bases with a walk or single. I thought the object was to score as many runs as you can. seriously get over yourself, and your 25 RBIs

  19. Big Ed

    Chris asked earlier why Winker and VanMeter are not playing versus a RH pitcher. Anderson has very pronounced reverse splits, with RHs giving him more trouble.

    That doesn’t make it a good decision, but that is the logic. Ervin, for example, hits LHs much better.

  20. Preach

    Pssstt…..send the runners again….

  21. Eric

    I like watching grat waddle from base to base

    • Big Ed

      Slower even than Sean Casey, which I thought was impossible.

  22. Seat101

    Tyvvm Joey!

    He had two strikes on him too.

  23. RojoBenjy

    Ayoohayneeoah needs to protect the plate there. That’s on him.

  24. Big Ed

    Taylor Trammell hit a homer tonight, following a double and triple last night.

    Alex Wood gave up 1 run in 5 innings.

    • Sliotar

      Bring Trammell up for a few days in September.

      The upsides are numerous, plus he is already in his age 22 season.

      Who is losing out? A few days off for Puig? The LF platooners?

      This club desperately needs an influx of young/controllable/future difference makers

    • VaRedsFan

      He might have to steal 3rd and home to score.

  25. VaRedsFan

    Homer in his 1st game with his new team (Oak) 2 innings, 8 ER, 9 hits, 3BB

    • RedsMonk65

      Marty is going ballistic on Ervin.

      • Pete

        He should, are the Reds teaching bad base running? Bone-head move.

      • RedsMonk65

        Sure seems like it. Unbelievable.

    • Sliotar

      Now, now…..let’s keep it real.

      Trashing Homer now is like bringing up Ghosts of Christmas Past.

      He was good in his first start for A’s.

      “Bailey (8-6) allowed two earned runs on seven hits and no walks while striking out six across six innings to earn the win Wednesday against the Mariners. (7/17/2019)”

      He got Astros away tonight ….and stuff happens there.

      • VaRedsFan

        correction noted.
        Recency bias in effect

  26. VaRedsFan

    We can always root for the wild pitch.

  27. Seat101

    Ervin’s TOOTBLAN is not an issue if Peraza does his job to get the runner over

    • RedsMonk65

      He tried. At least he wasn’t swinging for the fences like many.

    • RojoBenjy

      OK—what’d you do with Seat101?

  28. Big Ed

    Ervin should have run into the defender between first and second, to get an interference call. (Better yet, don’t goof it up to start with.)

    • VaRedsFan

      It would work most every time. I’m surprised it’s not drilled into all runners in a rundown

  29. Preach

    At least it wasn’t a complete failure. Good job Iggy

  30. RedsMonk65

    J-Iggy! He has been quite the clutch hitter with RISP.

  31. Preach

    Sonny with a lead. Uncharted territory.

  32. RedsMonk65

    Alex Wood had a decent outing, it seems, in AA: 6 innings, 4 hits 1 run, 4 SO, 0 W. Real test will be how he feels tomorrow, I suppose.

  33. RedsMonk65

    Alex Wood with a decent outing tonight in AA: 6 innings, 4 hits, 1 run 4 SO, 0 W. True test, I guess, will be how he feels tomorrow.

    • RedsMonk65

      Is there an echo?

      (Sorry about that)

      • RedsMonk65

        Think I did.

        Sometimes my parallel universes get crossed up. I’m working on it. 🙂

  34. Eric

    Sonny has a killer curve ball. I It’s a put a way pitch like Castillos change up. He needed a perfect 6th and he knew it. Pitched a great game. The best move made going forward by a long shot. He’s a vicious competitor.

  35. RedsMonk65

    Joey and Geno — that’s more like it! More, please, every day!

  36. Seat101

    Hot dog! Suarez just made an eye heart you to me on TV

  37. VaRedsFan

    Suarez!!!!!! Both he an Votto 1st pitch swinging

  38. RedsMonk65

    OK, bullpen — hold this lead! PLEASE

  39. Eric

    Thom. I don’t think he thought he got it. I know u didn’t think he got it. Calmly said.

    • Sliotar


      Which was worse… the strike three call by ump, or trying to steal, down three runs with top of lineup coming up?

  40. VaRedsFan

    Lorenzen needs to let Yelich lead off NEXT inning

    • Eric

      This is why, though he will be given another shot next year, he will not be in the rotation.

    • VaRedsFan

      trust your stuff and throw strikes. Tried to trick Cain with a curve.

  41. Doc

    Is the Votto with two hits the same Votto being ragged on earlier in the thread? Talk about micro-analysis. Each at bat analyzed as though it is the entire career. Glad I have a life.

    • Eric

      He had two hits yesterday too I think. Yep sure is.

    • RedsMonk65


      I think he’s got a few more years left in him — maybe not at the level we’ve grown accustomed to, but still useful. He works and constantly readjusts, so I am confident he will keep it going.

      • Eric

        If he can’t it will not be a lack of dedication or preparation during the spring and winter months. I’m sure Votto works out and stretches throughout the year. That’s just the kind of dude he is. He wants to succeed on a personal level and collectively as a team player. But everyone knows once the legs go the power follows.

  42. Big Ed

    Classic Reds meltdown.

    Let Corky Miller pitch. He can at least throw strikes.

  43. VaRedsFan

    I’m ok with walking Yelich…intentionally or otherwise

  44. Eric

    I’m good with the walk. A calculated gamble. I think.

      • VaRedsFan

        So the solution would be to buy more expensive players!!! lol

      • Eric

        Interesting stat makes perfect sense as well. Until recently vottos yearly has been in the mid 70% of payroll and his 10yr extension on top of the 3 yr deal remaining has hurt the club’s chances of exploring potential quality free agents as well as keeping their own. That’s all I have said. It’s nothing personally against the his contributions to the team.

    • Sliotar

      Dude cannot pitch in 8th inning. Period.
      Mental hang up. Whatever.

      Trade him, release him or keep him until 9th.

      Doing this….is being stubborn on the part of Bell.

  45. VaRedsFan

    Iggy to get 6 outs?? Here we go!

  46. RojoBenjy

    And Puig is out of the game?

    David Bell, get out of your own way, please.

    • RojoBenjy

      And he’s still in his own way. Taking out Ervin, another quality defender?

  47. RojoBenjy

    Watching Iggy blow games is an artform now. Like MBE said about bringing in Stephenson in a close game.

    • RojoBenjy

      Let the artistic mood flow over you like a waterfall…

  48. RedsMonk65

    C’mon Iglesias. Wish we had a reliable closer!

  49. Pete

    This is hard to believe, I’m stunned.

  50. Seat101

    I’ve already seen this movie! I’m going to bed. Have a fun recap if you can

    • RojoBenjy

      Let me remind you that the Reds were never buyers.

      • vegastypo

        Hey, it gets better. He was hitting something like .105 before Sunday, when he hit a grand slam against the Diamondbacks. The guy had no home runs, no RBIs, before yesterday. Who says lightning can’t strike twice.

    • Eric

      Being an NC State fan I must offer those inspiring words of Jimmy V. near the end of his speech at the espys. Enough said.

  51. vegastypo

    Yeah, lotsa trade value there for Iglesias. Lots of it. Time to have another sit-down with Bell about his usage. Asking too much of him.

    • Pete

      Exactly, let him pitch in the role he prefers and see if he regain his value…then trade him.

    • RojoBenjy

      Agreed. Pitching in MLB is too much for him.

  52. Pete


  53. Big Ed

    Homer Bailey would have been a more effective closer. So would have Lady Gaga.

    Good thing Bell took out Puig.

  54. Sidney

    The only remaining question is why do I do this every night. Lots of entertainment choices. I’m a sick individual in need of help.

    • vegastypo

      Sidney, I ‘m right there with you. I’ve been asking myself for years what hold this team has on me.

    • Eric

      I know. I fell for the reds in 72 as an 8yr old. Hell I live in NC. There just is no other team. I don’t have any other entertainment being disabled and stuck in the house. Now that really sux. Sorry. A little reality can sometimes put things into perspective. I would love to see the reds win something. 2023 N.L. Pennant.

  55. Pete

    So let me get this right: Puig and Ervin are out of the game?

    • RojoBenjy


      Because David Bell is smart.

      • P)ete

        Bell is the anti Jack McKeon. Heck by the 7th inning Trader Jack would be taking a nap. Got to hand to David, he really likes to manage, I mean really likes it.

      • RojoBenjy

        I need to be educated by someone that can explain the analytical advantages to those two double switches.

        Why not bring Lorenzen back to pitch after the Garrett walk to lead the 8th?

  56. Eric

    Typical day in the life of the pen. Again. This is why I DVR. We will get nothing in return for Iggy. This has to stop.

    • vegastypo

      Why does it have to stop? Castellini is making tons of money. The bottom line is, well, the bottom line. And they’re not going to cut into their profit by actually spending more to try to upgrade the team.

      • Eric

        I have no crystal ball to say what Castillini may or may not do. Maybe you can send me yours. The man was very wealthy before his ownership and will be after new ownership takes over. I happen to believe he would like to put a winning club on the field. Putting butts in seats will only increase his bottom line.

      • vegastypo

        Eric, I would be quite happy to be proven wrong. But they’ve largely been the stand-pat Reds for so long, anything else would be a surprise. That Dodgers trade was mutual salary dumping.

        We’ll see what this offseason brings, or maybe the trade deadline, if any of the Reds have trade value left!

    • RojoBenjy

      Held on to him two years two long. Or at the very least, one year too long.

      Now he is worth a handful of magic beans. But he got his payday.

      • Eric

        That deal was mutually beneficial and yes there have been little or no real upgrades in forever. Jocketty went all in with Votto and had team control of players for that 2010, 2012, and the wildcard team. There was a small window of opportunity for a short period of time and when that team control ceased with good players up for or nearly to a contract extension he chose to cash in his chips and start trading for essentially middle of the road prospects which for what ever reason with a few exceptions did not work out. He left this team in much worse shape than when he started and hand cuffed it to a ridiculous long term contract for one man which attributed to 70% of payroll after he was finished. Maybe Bob did call the shots l don’t know but I think this was Walts plan for for a so called rebuild. I do blame Castilinni for hiring a st louie former dirty bird cardinal gm to handle the reds affairs. Just my humble opinion of the past. I think the future is optimistically bright for the reds. The house has been cleaned top to bottom with new decision makers along with some promising young talent and high draft picks next June. It’s a wait and see whether they hit or miss on these. 2023 NL Pennant

  57. Seadog

    Not sure I have ever gotten sick watching a baseball game. Until now.

  58. RedAlert

    DAVID BELL – you can find his picture in the dictionary if you look up the meaning of INSANITY

    Trade Iglesias for a bag of used batting practice balls – that’s about all you’ll get

  59. PetalumaRedsfan

    Please Reds FIRE David Bell before he writes a book called, “How to over manage”. Bruce Bochy he is NOT!

  60. Seadog

    Would you in your wildest dreams ever imagine a teams closer could have more losses (9) than any pitcher on the team had wins.

    • vegastypo

      Ha, well, maybe, because those losses are taking away the starters’ wins !!!

      • Eric

        Ain’t that the truth. You know it has to bother these starters when they pitch 6 or 7 innings with 3 or 4 hits and leave with a good lead only to have a guy give it up in two thirds or so of an inning. They will never say so but it has to be terribly frustrating.

  61. RedsMonk65

    I need to start going to bed earlier. This is not good for one’s health and well-being and peace of mind.

  62. daytonnati

    Okay, this is why we keep watching.

    • RedsMonk65

      Well, now I CAN’T go to bed!

      Geno rules.

    • vegastypo

      I’ve never doubted there was a God. I just always wanted to know what he’s had against the Reds for going on 30 years.

      • RedsMonk65

        He let the Israelites out of Egypt, and after 40 years, into the Promised Land. That is my hope.

        (Figuratively speaking, of course. I hope it takes less than 40.)

    • daytonnati

      Not if you’re a Brewers fan 🙂

    • Eric

      He did clock it. Nearly triple decker.

  63. RojoBenjy


    Nice job, Suarez!

    I guess Seat 101 hadn’t seen this one before. Twist plot.

    But not over yet.

    Senzel getting on was HUGE.

    • RedsMonk65

      Yes it was.

      Now, Wandy (I presume) has to get 3 outs.

    • Sliotar

      Even Thom got excited, going to the “31 years of calling games” card.

    • RedsMonk65

      I seem to recall Scooter pitching a couple years back … (NOT serious)

    • RojoBenjy

      Maybe Lavarnway can toss a few strikes.

  64. RojoBenjy

    And for the third time Bell gets in his own way. Nice job, Jared.

    • RojoBenjy

      It worked out. So now skipper is smart again.

      • Eric

        Bell to Jim Day: So Ugh well ugh ugh right ugh yea ugh he he competes. That was mean. Sorry David just poking a little fun at you. Listening to Bell postgame is entertaining. He chooses his words carefully. I just wish his tyrants during and after ejections were recorded. He seems to get it out fine when he’s pissed.

  65. RedsMonk65

    Close the door, Jared. Strikes, please.

  66. RedsMonk65

    FINALLY. Now I can sleep. Nite nite.

    Go Reds.

  67. RojoBenjy

    Suarez better have a new Corvette in his driveway with a thank you note from Raisel Iglesias when he gets home.

  68. vegastypo

    I’m glad the Reds won. Truly. But it seems like they won in spite of themselves. Or in spite of Lorenzen and Iglesias.

  69. Hanawi

    Before tonight, Raisel Iglesias in save situations – 2.63 ERA (.608 OPS against), in non-save situations – 5.89 ERA (.929 OPS). Bell continuing to run him out there in those situations is managerial malpractice.

    • Sliotar


      Your posts are great.

      Related…pulled from FanGraphs

      Iglesias …. Career

      8th inning
      62 IP
      9.7 K/9
      5.1 BB/9 (Yikes)
      4.73 xFIP

      9th inning
      152 IP
      10.7 K/9
      2.4 BB/9
      3.14 xFIP

      • Sliotar

        Iglesias has pitched between 70 and 80 innings each of the last 3 seasons, so there is almost a full season “book” on him pitching in 8th.

        He can’t keep being used in 8th and also, supposedly, also being showcased as a trade piece.

  70. Jreis

    I honestly think Mahle would be a heck of a closer. He has the attitude and mental toughness to be a good one in my opinion. When Wood comes back I say move Mahle to the pen.