The Cincinnati Reds (39-44) will try to build on a thrilling extra inning win yesterday against the Milwaukee Brewers (46-40) tonight at 7:10 PM. The Reds enter play on Wednesday 5.5 back in the NL Central and 4.5 back from the second wild-card spot.

Starting Pitchers

Sonny Gray has a career 2.76 ERA in 3 starts against the Brewers.

Jhoulys Chacin’s 5.60 ERA is the 4th worst in the MLB out of 105 pitchers with 70+ IP. He has a career 4.26 ERA in 10 starts against the Reds.

Starting Lineup


News and notes

Doug Gray has updated scouting reports on the Cincinnati Reds July 2nd signings, including more information on the two 7-figure signing bonus players that were inked to deals yesterday.

Former Cincinnati Reds Dilson Herrera opted out of his contract with the New York Mets. He had been playing in Triple-A with their team in Syracuse where he was hitting .258/.355/.566 with 17 doubles and 17 home runs in 68 games. He’s still just 25-years-old.

82 Responses

  1. Sliotar

    No Yelich, No Grandal …. y’all.


    A really gettable game now…on paper. Let’s hope for a laugher for Ye Olde Redlegs.

    (FWIW….Rotogrinders projects the Reds LH hitters to feast tonight. Scooter’s coming out/return party starts here?)

  2. Hanawi

    Surprised Scooter is still hitting 4th. Probably wouldn’t be the worst thing to move him down a bit until he loses the rust

    • Shchi Cossack

      Probably would have been a better thing to have him knock off the rust in on his rehab assignment in AAA! A slash of .154/.185/.231 with a .416 OPS and a .077 ISO does not give any indication that Scooter was ready to face MLB pitching after just 27 PA and his performance (.118/.118/.118 with a .235 OPS and .000 ISO) since his return bears that out. Sometimes people in positions to make sound decisions need to make unpopular decisions rather than making the feel-good decisions.

      I get that the Reds want to get as much performance by Scooter on record by the trade deadline, but taking a shortcut to getting ready is counterproductive.

      BTW, since returning to AAA, Josh VanMeter picked up right where he left off with regular, daily playing time … slashing .423/.474/.635 with a 1.108 OPS and a .212 ISO.

      • Curt

        Agree…and yes I’d put money on VanMeter doing as well if not better than what’s currently happening at as many as 3 different positions.

  3. Seat101

    Another high baseball IQ play last night was Jose Iglesias staying close to first, making sure that he could not ruin the inning. by getting tagged or thrown out

    After last nights phone win I’m hoping we can follow through with a “laugher.”

    • ToBeDetermined


      I noticed that also from Iglesias

  4. matt hendley

    The Reds have the opportunity to pile on MIL. Sonny needs a turn around game against MIL.

    Hope the Reds win. Glad to see regular rest plans being introduced.

    • Indy Red Man

      Scooter is killing us. Thames hit it hard. He had no reason to rush the throw.

      • matt hendley

        I do think he was brought up early for the optics. Giving him 5 more games before i believe it becomes an issue and not just rust.

  5. Indy Red Man

    Must win! No Yelich and a starter that hasn’t won since April

  6. Big Ed

    Yelich probably needed a day off. I understand that he had played youth ball in the same leagues as Tyler Skaggs, and knew him well. He had an inexplicable bunt attempt last night, plus his throw on the final play was a bit lackluster.

    • ToBeDetermined

      I was looking at a Milwaukee Brewers Twitter feed before the game and the Brewer’s fans were just loosing their minds that Yelich wasn’t in the line up

  7. Seat101

    You know what’s strange? The fact that I don’t even think twice now when I see Yasiel Puig kiss his bat!

    • vegastypo

      When he was in LA, he would kiss Turner Ward after each home run. I dunno if he still does that, and I don’t really need to see for myself.

  8. Indy Red Man

    Most of you guys are nuts….sign Puig and do it soon! I know they’re not that close, but he shouldn’t be that expensive either. He’s never had more then 74 rbis or something. Never hit 30 hrs either. He’s a emotional guy so he may not wait on his agent to talk him out of it. Don’t wait til Sept when we’re 11 games out and 11k in the crowd. DO IT SOON!!! You trade him and then guess what little Dickie is out shopping for? A RH power bat!

    • ToBeDetermined


      Your busting me up. LOL. Dick Williams should have ran out there with the rest of the guys with a contract and pen in his hands and got him to sign right then and there.

  9. Seat101

    Is it just me or does the brewers manager look like Rick Flag from Suicide Squad?

  10. Indy Red Man

    Took the Reds Over 4.5 tonite. Chacin is a complete scrub

    • Mark Lang

      yeah, that’s looking like a mistake

      • Indy Red Man

        Maybe, but haven’t we seen 2-0 games in the 6th turn into 8-6 final scores with these 2 teams.

    • Sliotar

      You got good value.

      Rotogrinders compiles the average of the major Vegas sports books, and they had the Reds projected at 5.24 runs tonight.

      Chacin 65 pitches through 3 innings.

      • Aaron B.

        The problem with all of this is the crooked umpires. Would it surprise anyone if they are taking advantage of these spreads? They caught crooked NBA refs not so long ago. Right now this homeplate ump is calling strikes that are clearly out of the zone. That will force an under. Investigate these umpires they are dirty and corrupt.

    • Indy Red Man

      They chart all that, but I didn’t look for it tonite. This guy is bad though.

  11. Mark Lang

    Every night (almost) you get to hear the announcers talk about how this is a great recovery game since the last “x” number of bad starts for the opposing team’s starter.

  12. C Holbert

    I know Puig swings wildly a lot. IMO there is nothing coming that can do what he can right now to help them. He will not be that expensive, give him a couple years and see what is coming then. The Reds have the money, and it would not be a good visual to trade what is currently the heart and soul. Puig has willed them to a couple wins this year.

  13. Seat101

    I bet my 16-year-old that we would score at least four runs in the fourth inning today. I got 8 to 1 odds on a $10 bet

    • Indy Red Man

      I don’t think we are going to win? Hopefully the Reds will atleast score enough to get it done. This ump is calling everything a strike.

      • VaRedsFan

        HP has 7 overs and 8 unders this year

    • Seat101

      He just called me and said he couldn’t bet against the Reds but if I want to give them $10 he wouldn’t object

  14. Big Ed

    This ump is Eric Gregg’s love child.

  15. Sliotar

    @Mark Lang’s comment up above made me laugh.

    Chacin acting like every marginal pitch is a strike, catching pop-ups.
    Doing a Roger Clemens impression tonight.

  16. Indy Red Man

    Looks like more then a good chance that they missed the boat on trading Scooter. He was red-hot last year. This year nobody knows if he’s getting it back?

    • Curt

      “Missed the boat on trading”…has been a long-standing problem with the club, hoping Dick and Nick are prepared to remedy that. We shall see.

  17. Aaron B.

    OMG this ump is now squeezing Gray. He is clearly trying to throw the game. I can’t believe what I am seeing.

  18. Old-school

    Sonny Gray was a solid pick up.

  19. C Holbert

    Sonny Gray at 3/30 mil seems like a pretty good deal. He is definitely worth what they traded to get him.

    • Indy Red Man

      Yeah I was actually calling for Puig and Sonny 2 years ago I think. Of course I also called for Dexter Fowler after the Cubs won and Cain b4 Milw got him….they both look washed up now. The Reds aren’t getting slam dunk free agents, but have to shop for a guy on the rebound or something that makes him affordable!

      • rex e aultman

        Cain had an amazing year for me last year on playstation 🙂

      • Sliotar

        Cain is the poster child for what low-budget teams like the Reds have to avoid.

        Guys decline and usually badly, past age 31/32. Cain is age 33, and looks to be going from 5.7 WAR last year to just over 1 WAR this season. He is signed for $16M per through 2022. Yikes.

        No other team is going to offer Puig 5 years. Hopefully, the Reds will keep the term short if they re-sign him.

      • Indy Red Man


        Well my argument at the time was Tori Hunter. He was still producing at 34-35-36….but I think he was the exception!

  20. VaRedsFan

    The slower they throw, the harder time the Reds have with them.

  21. matt hendley

    Gray says he bought a ticket as well and he is making sure there is Pizza. Great start by Gray, He may go 8 innings in this one.

    I would feel better if the reds scored a few more runs.

  22. VaRedsFan

    106.7 on that hit by Puig.
    The HR he hit was at 108.

    • vegastypo

      It looked like he was determined to swing wherever that pitch was, even if he gets little power at all behind the swing. I’m surprised he could even reach it. But it works.

  23. Seat101

    I think I need to eat a little crow with Jose Iglesias

  24. Indy Red Man

    Need a bomb here for my 5 runs!!! Lets go….gabp special coming up:)

  25. Indy Red Man

    Casali. Old saying is almost always true. If you play a bench player too much then he’ll show you why he’s a bench player. He’s still better then TB though

    • VaRedsFan

      He definitely isn’t taking the bull by the horns since Tuck went down.

      • Sliotar

        Best pitching change I have seen all season. A non-change.

        This franchise needs to believe in its starters in a way several teams don’t have to worry about.

        Marty and Cowboy had a great half-inning there, walking through the pitcher-manager relationship, and Cowboy talking about the role of the crowd.

  26. Mark Lang

    Sonny be dealing… Sonny D, indeed.

  27. Indy Red Man

    Milw just isn’t that good overall. Yelich & Hader carry that team. Moose is good, but who else do they have? They have a good pen overall, but their starters are shaky. Not alot in the minors to help out either.

  28. Indy Red Man

    DH warming up? Are you kidding me? Bell is going to give him a Tommy John. I feel like I’m at Santa Anita racetrack and Bell is the little person whipping the doomed horse

  29. VaRedsFan

    What Gray really said is…..DH is warming…i’m staying

  30. matt hendley

    SOnny on Fire, Stadium on Fire, Puig on Fire, Reds on fire.

    Other news, 5 Alarm blaze reported downtown

  31. Seat101

    I should’ve scout the ticket to tonight’s game I think. I’m definitely going tomorrow

  32. Sliotar

    Best pitching change I have seen all season. A non-change.

    This franchise needs to believe in its starters in a way several teams don’t have to worry about.

    Marty and Cowboy had a great half-inning there, walking through the pitcher-manager relationship, and Cowboy talking about the role of the crowd.

  33. PhP

    Glad Gray got through 8th. It was a tough call not hitting for him in bottom of 7th.

  34. Indy Red Man

    They have Puig, Suarez, and Joey going…..if 2-3 other guys could pick it up? Senzel has never been bad, but not really hot yet either? DD is hitting a little better, but sits alot.
    This team is interesting!

  35. vegastypo

    Gennett left with tightness in his left groin — his injury was to the right groin.

    • Mark Moore

      Hate to see him injured, but he was way behind the curve based on what I’ve seen since his return. If he goes back on the IL, somebody else will step up.

  36. matt hendley

    PIT beating CHC by 1 in the 7th. and STL doesnt start until later. Reds will move to 4.5 out of 1st, unknown to 4th as that game hasnt concluded. Same for third. either 4.5 or 4 out of the 2nd WC depending on CHC.

    But i thought the season was over?

      • matt hendley

        COrrection noted… was distracted by PUIGAWSOMENESS.

  37. Seat101

    That third run makes me feel so much better.

  38. Indy Red Man

    Puig drives in 2, scores 2, and puts a dent in the outfield wall. Business as usual:)

  39. VaRedsFan

    Puig has really ignited this team.

  40. Mark Moore

    Still Puig’s world … happy to be watching. And what a game by Gray!

  41. TR

    What a game for Gray. And I liked that RBI by Puig for the third run. Things are slowly coming together with a lot of games to go.

  42. ToBeDetermined

    Hey everyone really enjoyed your posts tonight.

    It’s been a long time since we’ve seen good baseball in Cincinnati.

    Glad to see everyone wearing Red having a good time