Pedro Strop’s hot take on Yasiel Puig continues to run hot on Twitter today:

Late in Saturday’s 6-0 Cubs victory over the Reds at Great American Ball Park, Strop hit Puig with a 3-0 pitch, prompting both benches to empty. Cooler heads prevailed and there were no actual fisticuffs. But you wonder if there will be any spillover into today’s series finale at Great American Ball Park. Game time is 1:10 p.m. Eastern time.

Jose Peraza was hit by a pitch later, without any ejections by the unpiring crew. Manager David Bell reacted:

Bell later explained:

The bottom line: Bell and the Reds have clearly decided not to engage in the if-you-plunk-one-of-our-players-we-are-going-to-reply-in-kind “old-school” baseball tradition. This is noble and right, but you wonder if at least some of the Reds players might feel a bit “unprotected,” so to speak. And if so, whether any emotions will spill over into today’s game or later in the season.

Starting Pitchers

Jon Lester 82.1 3.83 4.10 23.2% 5.1%
Anthony DeSclafani 74.2 4.70 4.45 23.9% 7.1%

Lester is the third consecutive lefthander to start against the Reds in the series. In his career vs. Cincinnati, he is 7-1 with a 3.88 ERA. Much of that is linked to the Cubs’ dominance of the Reds in recent years. DeSclafani was on a roll in June, allowing only three earned runs in 16 innings before being lit up by the Brewers in his last start at Miller Park.


Nobody pitched more than an inning Saturday, so all hands should be available.

Starting Lineups

Cubs Reds
LF Kyle Schwarber CF Nick Senzel
RF Kris Bryant 1B Joey Votto
1B Anthony Rizzo 3B Eugenio Suarez
C Willson Contreras RF Yasiel Puig
CF Jason Heyward SS Jose Iglesias
3B David Bote LF Phillip Ervin
SS Addison Russell 2B Jose Peraza
2B Daniel Descalso P Anthony DeSclafani
P Jon Lester C Curt Casali

Jose Peraza gets the start at second base today, rather than Scooter Gennett.

Additional insights into the statistical history of the players in today’s game is available all season long at

News and Notes

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152 Responses

  1. Jack

    KInd of sad that your once hottest hitting prospect is relegated to platoon player before he even played one complete season.

      • D Ray White

        He means Winker. Might we see a Free Winker campaign? Despite that, I’m happy to see Ervin get a start. When scrubs like Peraza continue to get outfield starts over Ervin it gets annoying.

    • Scott Gennett

      I guess the outfield crowded situation shall clear once Senzel returns to 2B and Puig is gone. Having said so, I foresee Winker LF, Trammel CF and Ervin RF for the near future, with Aquino in the wings if he’s able to cut on SO’s.

  2. matt hendley

    There will be a fight today. I mean i know scooter hasn’t been hitting HR every at-bat in the two games that he has returned from the IL, but really? REALLY?

    • BigRedMike

      I guess, but, the Reds did bench their best hitter in 2019 for All Star Gennett

      Also, the two players that the Reds were suppose to sign to long extensions based on their first two months have produced a wRC+ of 68 and 62 in the last 30 days. Iglesias and Dietrich.

      Peraza is what he is, but, the recent podcast made a good point that he was the starting SS and displaced for a player that is not really that good either. The starting CF out of spring was awful and may never be seen again on the MLB roster.

      Just very clear that there really is no plan. No young position players ready to move up which leads to discussions of extending an OF with a wRC+ of 88 because there are no other options out there.

      Why would the catcher be batting 9th??

      • matt hendley

        Catcher batting 9th I got. Casali may be a better hitter then Barnhart but he is about as slow, placing him in front of the pitcher would just lead to the Sac bunt Double play. Having a faster hitter allows the Sac to succeed and increases casalis probability of driving a run in.

        Don’t act like Puigs WRC is going to stay at 88. cause its not.

        Dont act like Peraza getting beaten out by Iggy and DD is unfair either, cause its not.

  3. Magi210

    I fully expect someone will get beaned by the Reds today.

  4. Old-school

    They probably don’t want to push Scooter too fast with the injury and against another lefty and day game after night game. Bell probably wants some stolen base threats as well since Lester is comical at holding runners. Hopefully Senzel and Peraza get on base a lot early.

    • Hanawi

      Scooter has also looked very rusty between his minor league rehab and the couple of MLB games. Not sure he is the best option to be inked into the lineup everyday at the moment.

      • matt hendley

        yea, looked good in that one at-bat against an RHP he had yesterday

  5. Jim Walker

    Casali continues behind the plate. Could it be they don’t really want to put Farmer back there except perhaps for a short stint at game’s end? With no off day till Friday., this could be a very big game for Ervin and Peraza if the Reds looking for a roster spot to bring up a true #2 catcher.

  6. Hanawi

    The Red Sox bullpen is an absolute dumpster fire so they could be a landing spot for some relievers. Unfortunately, their farm is also kind of a dumpster fire, so I’m not sure if they would have anyone of value to give up.

  7. vegastypo

    Yikes, that first pitch to Suarez was a strike? In what cockeyed strike zone?… Unless I’m blinded by this uniform.

    • matt hendley

      They are an aquired taste arent they.

      • vegastypo

        Not sure I’ll ever acquire that taste, but if there are 3-run bombs waiting to emerge from inside those unis, I’ll gladly suffer.

  8. matt hendley

    Suarez tells Schwarber “3 for your mistakes)

  9. VaRedsFan

    Genoooooo!….commit to drive the ball up the middle and the other way….success

  10. vegastypo

    Suarez !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lester got a gift call on strike one, didn’t get calls on close pitches that were low. Bingo !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Indy Red Man

    Only blemish so far is that Senzel didn’t make it to 3rd on Schwarber’s drop. Unless he was thinking next-level baserunning (which I highly doubt) and tagging from 1st then there really is no excuse. The baserunning has been one of our bigger problems in the last few years so Senzel can’t start off like that.

    Disco looks good! Stats can lie, but going into his last start he had a 3.47 era after his first 3 starts. Its just when he’s bad then he’s really bad. Like last starts dumpster fire. I think he can be a good 4th-5th starter….maybe a 4.10 era or something. We could do worse….and probably hard to replace him with someone better for that role.

    • vegastypo

      With Disco’s seeming propensity for giving up home runs, not sure I’ll ever trust him at GABP.

    • matt hendley

      I think Senzel gets a pass on the baserunning issue today. It was a clear error for Schwarber as he should have caught it and returned to 1st base. The ball didnt go far enough away to allow for the extra base after recognizing the error occured.

      • Indy Red Man

        I don’t agree. Senzel should’ve been about 30 feet from 2nd when Schwarber dropped the ball & with his speed then easily make 3rd base. He must’ve assumed the catch and already headed back. I just want to see us play headsup baseball on the basepaths. Rolen and BP were good about reading the ball and taking the extra base. The Cubs don’t have much speed and they led baseball last year on 1st to 3rd on singles. Its all just awareness & aggressiveness!! Scouting the OF in question and gameplanning!

      • vegastypo

        I can only assume that if Senzel was halfway-ish, he started back toward first when he saw the ball hitting Schwarber’s glove and didn’t realize he dropped the ball until it was too late. ………..

        Could he have gone back closer to the base to try to tag up? Dunno.

  12. Roger Garrett

    Just silly for Winker to set 3 straight games.We know about Puig and we know he will not be here next year so we may and I say may get a few more wins with him out there every day.Just a shame that these wins are more important then the develop of Ervin and Winker.

    • matt hendley

      No, Actually its just silly for someone who claimed about 12 hours ago they were done with the reds for the season to come back and continue his complaining.

      Winker has had trouble against lefties so it makes sense to give Ervin the start. Winker got Double switched in yesterday. probebly will today. Puig is on fire right now.

      Your complaining is getting tiresome, expecially for someone who claimed they wernt going to be here

  13. VaRedsFan

    Peraza not on the bag again…..Tired of this little leaguer. Easy out.

  14. vegastypo

    Dang it, Peraza, stay at the base. Not sure he would have got him anyway, but give yourself a chance to get the out !

    • vegastypo

      And for the record, before I get a dose of ‘you guys are persecuting Peraza,’ no less an authority as defensive wiz Doug Flynn was saying the same thing on the Reds’ radio feed.

      • yorktownred

        And Thom and the Cowboy agree.

    • matt hendley

      another day another Peraza mistake. It has to get embarrassing when little leaguer fans in the stands are bailing you out for your mistake.

      • BigRedMike

        At least you never complain like other posters

        Our daily complaining about Peraza post

  15. Indy Red Man

    Ok Jose…..these are these 4 white things scattered around the field at 90 feet apart. Your job is to guard the 2nd one when runners are on the way.

    How does this guy stay on a big league roster?

  16. CI3J

    Wow, Reds Bartman themselves out of trouble. Don’t see that very often.

  17. VaRedsFan

    Correct call on the challenge. Ervin would have caught that ball.

    • Big Ed

      I would have not liked that call if the jerseys had been reversed, because it wasn’t a given to me that the catch would have been made.

  18. Indy Red Man

    Oh by the way….1ST ROUNDER Alex Blandino also being blocked by Peraza. He has a .951 ops at Louisville with 10 walks in 52 at-bats. When did Peraza have a +900 ops in the minors? That would be never!!! Blandino also went to Stanford so theres a decent chance he can:

    A. Count to 3
    B. When he’s playing 2nd base….then actually cover 2nd base

    • TR

      But did Blandino major in baseball at Stanford?

    • Rich H

      So you went through every single one of Peraza’s 51 at bat splits in the minors, adjusted for the MLB ball and the league average OPS from those years, and found out he never had a .951 OPS? Use real arguments when you’re talking about players.

  19. Seat101

    Here at the game. Room 129 row P

    What’s with Suarez? Why didn’t he try to run

  20. Roger Garrett

    Nine up and nine down against an old man.Amazing to me.Suarez doesn’t have to run just like Peraza doesn’t have to cover a base.Nothing will be done so we are just foolish to even call them out on it.Losing players on a losing team.

  21. Indy Red Man

    Disco popping 96 today!! 40 pitches and he’s got 2 outs in the 4th!! He’s a hard guy to figure. Today he looks like a #2 starter that we have to resign! Other times he looks like batting practice?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      He looks amazing today. Locating everything very well, and getting ahead of almost every hitter.

  22. Mark Lang

    Same script almost every game – score all your runs in the first and then give the other teams starting pitcher a string of 15 to 20 outs in a row.

    • Big Ed

      It sure seems that way. It does matter if it’s Sandy Koufax or Dooley Womack; sane thing happens.

  23. Mark Lang

    I doubt anyone keeps a record of this sort of thing – but Votto HAS to be the leader in taken 3rd strikes with runners in scoring position.

  24. matt hendley

    Another day another poor umpiring performance. SHould be bases loaded for Suarez.

  25. VaRedsFan

    Strike 3 looking to Votto. That is the pitch that a lefty hitter puts into the sun deck.

  26. VaRedsFan

    Love the use of the high fastball today by Disco.

  27. matt hendley

    That’s one you don’t see every day, especially from a supposed non-runner like Suarez

  28. Cyrus

    The Reds are idiots when running the bases. Suarez took a run off the board with that horrible baserunning. Irks me to no end. This is what bad baseball teams do.

  29. matt hendley

    I guess the stupid cubs thought that Puig was stupid and wouldn’t steal 2nd, start for third and score on Ervins bloop hit.

    A run is a Run

  30. vegastypo

    Stick a fork in Lester, who has to think he was snake bit today. Schwarber’s error, then thought he had Suarez struck out, now this run on the bloop single.

  31. VaRedsFan

    Disco out after 73 pitches.
    I think I’m OK with this….previously he has imploded fast in the 7th inning.
    Winker had a chance to open the game up more.

    • vegastypo

      I suppose, but it just seems like, if a four-run lead and pitch count of 73 isn’t enough to let Disco pitch past the sixth inning, he’ll never get the opportunity.

  32. Steve Schoenbaechler

    Just got home from work. Followed the game a bit. Two things:

    A box score line you wouldn’t see often, at one time during the game, I noticed:

    Cubs 0-3-1
    Reds 3-1-0

    Second, I just saw these uniforms. Interesting! That’s what they wore back then. It’s not that I like the uniform or not. I like to see the Reds changing up like this.

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      I wonder what the other team thought if it.

  33. VaRedsFan

    Maybe Lorenzen can only pitch in save situations now.

  34. matt hendley

    Well Pulling Disco backfired didn’t it.

  35. VaRedsFan

    Cowboy keeps saying don’t give Schwarber anything good on the 1st pitch….kaboom.

  36. TyGuy88

    If you want to be a competitive ball club you simply cannot blow this game.

  37. Mark Lang

    and it sounds like the Cubs are playing a home game.

  38. CI3J

    Lorenzen is going to single-handedly cough this up.

  39. Cyrus

    David Bell is a moron. You have the bottom of the order coming up which has not hit Anthony all day and you lift him. I guess no one is comfortable with a pitcher for the Reds pitching past the 6th inning. My gosh. Let him pitch until someone gets on base and then lift him. Why do all these managers play so stinking conventional. Quit managing like losing managers and try doing what the winners do and give your starter confidence by sticking with him. And we knew from the first batter that Lorenzen did not have it today. This makes me sick to my stomach.

    • Big Ed

      The strategy is called “Take out an effective pitcher, and replace him with a pitcher who might be effective.”

      Has not worked well over 150 years of baseball. Lot of data to back up its non-effectiveness. Managers can’t resist the urge.

      • lost11found

        I think this sums it up well… DB isn’t the only manager in the history of the sport to have done it.

        Famous instances? Calvin Shiralidi in for (clemmens or Bruce Hurst) in 86 WS comes to mind but my memory may be faulty…

  40. Indy Red Man

    Jeez:( Bell really overthinks things recently. Disco was just rolling along….hitting 97 mph and really dominating. No real excuse for Lorenzen, but he’s been closing and has all that adrenaline that goes with it….now he’s put into a 4-0 game in the 7th?

    This is on Bell if it goes south. Disco was rolling along fine!

  41. cheeze its

    In hindsight, probably should have stuck with Disco

  42. lost11found

    One wonders how much more DB is going to give Lorenzen here….Just doesn’t have it today.

    The bullpen slot machine stole our money today.

  43. Cyrus

    And now the Suarez idiotic baserunning really looms large. Think of how different the bottom of the 6th inning goes if Suarez runs like someone who knows what he is doing? The Puig at-bat might have ended in a home run instead of a walk but, either way, Lester is out of the game earlier and the Reds get to the bullpen quicker and in a stressful situation. That 6th inning could have been a crooked number. It’s the little details that the Reds never seem to do. It’s an IQ thing in my opinion and we don’t have a whole lot of grey matter with our positional players. If we lose this game…unreal.

    • Indy Red Man

      Yep….no mystery why they lose alot of close games. They have some talent! Not a ton, but enough to be .500 atleast. Its not like the Cubs, Milw, or the Cards don’t have holes.

      Heyward again. 6’2″ and its a HR. I’ve never seen a guy get so much out of a little more length or wingspan.

  44. Indy Red Man

    That was big!! See if Garrett can get thru the 8th and then if good Iggy will show up. Much scarier then it needed to be. We need another run or two!!

  45. vegastypo

    Contreras needs to put extra polish on his shoes, then it would be on the ball if he really got hit by that ball.

    • VaRedsFan

      The batter knows. He should have sold it with a limp.

  46. Steve Schoenbaechler

    Disco left after only 73 pitches? Was there any report of an injury? Was he getting nailed a lot? Nailed in the 6th? I mean, 73 pitches through 6 innings, I would think that could call for allowing them to go a bit longer.

    Again, only asking because I’ve been at work. And, I know Disco hasn’t been the best in our rotation, so I can understand a short leash. This just seemed like a really short leash.

    • VaRedsFan

      2 men on…gave Winker a chance to bust the game open.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Oh, got it. I was wondering. Thank you.

  47. Scott Gennett

    Not a quite sound decision by Bell to take Disco out of the game with only 73 pitches and no runs allowed. He’d have easily gone two more innings while preserving the shutout.

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      Someone just mentioned to me above. It came from the batting situation, in the bottom. There was a chance to break the game wide open. Bell put in Winker to try to do that.

      I can understand this a bit better now. I still would have probably gone with Disco myself a bit longer. But, I can understand it a bit better.

  48. vegastypo

    How the heck many times is Heyward going to rob Senzel and the Reds in this series?

  49. TyGuy88

    Simply put, Heyward has been the difference maker in this series.

  50. matt hendley

    Police looking into a string of downtown robberies this weekend.

  51. Mark Lang

    Is there an inning in this series where our bullpen hasn’t walked the lead off batter?

  52. Indy Red Man

    Garrett is no All-Star. Sorry, but wayyyy too many walks. He’s good, but AS as a setup guy on a last place team? You better be immaculate almost.

    Iggy for 6 outs? I think Bell is going officially put a fork in this season with this one. I’ve defended him alot, but he’s been completely idiotic today!

  53. Brian

    Already lost with Castillo on the mound and a 3, 4, and 5 run lead.

    Lost up 8-0 with Sonny on the mound.

    Just can’t drop this game. Just can’t

  54. VaRedsFan

    3 more outs to get…Anyone selling insurance??? I’m buying!!

  55. matt hendley

    Dodging them bullets.

    Need a few runs.

  56. Old-school

    This game is a metaphor for the 2019 season….all wrapped up into 9 innings. Or more???

  57. Roger Garrett

    It would be too much to hope for another run or two I guess.We can hope though

  58. VaRedsFan

    carbon copy bloop hit rbi singles by Ervin

    • matt hendley

      Thats right, carbon copy them RBIs

    • Rich H

      Scratch those RBIs and hits, they don’t count because they had a low exit velocity and hit probability.

  59. vegastypo

    Another dunker for Ervin. Whoever was willing to buy insurance above, pay up !!!!!!!!!!!

    • VaRedsFan

      Paypal on the way.
      I get a multi run discount, so I’m holding out for that

  60. matt hendley

    Philip Ervin and Yasiel Puig are straight up grinding out there.

  61. Indy Red Man

    Iggy the SS needs a couple of days off. He’s been horrible with the bat lately.

    Puig with 2 steals which led to 2 key runs! His hustle broke up an easy doubleplay in the opener which led to 2 runs for the Reds. You can win games with Puig!! Especially now thats he’s walking occasionally!

    Sign The Wild Horse!!!!

    • matt hendley

      I will say he did turn that HBP into a run at the end, but he still should have charged the mound.

  62. Seat101

    If we score a few more runs I have a feeling they’re going to be some HBP in the top of the night

  63. VaRedsFan

    Ervin has earned full time platoon. 3 solid games worth of AB’s

  64. Big Ed

    First pitch to Farmer was 3 inches outside. Robo-umps now.

  65. Indy Red Man

    Farmer is a keeper!! I saw 4-5 atbats in spring training and I knew that swing was legit! He should get more atbats with the big slumps guys like Suarez were having. Can he play SS in a pinch?

    • Indy Red Man

      And can he actually catch? He’s a better hitter then Casali or TB imo.

  66. vegastypo

    Can we please, please build around Senzel ???????????
    Hahahaha, look at all of the Cubbie fans leaving !!!!!!!!!!!!

  67. Indy Red Man

    3 straight series wins against the Cubs!!! Pretty nice!!! Today finishes the 1st half at 38-43. Puig on pace for 34 hrs/26 steals. Reds 30/30 man is always cool!!! Eric Davis, Larkin, BP….for some reason don’t think Joe Morgan ever did it?

    • TR

      Have a good trip and come again to spend some more money in Cincy.

  68. matt hendley

    Hillarious sight, the Reds fan mocking the litany of Cubs blue weeping their way to the exit. Notice that the posts giving up on the season have also stopped. Again. Iggy gets his save situation

    • Indy Red Man

      The season was most likely over at 1-8. Don’t kid yourself, but its always nice to beat the Cubs! You never know though? They have enough talent on paper to put together a 20-10 streak and once you get over .500 then you’re really in contention!

    • Pete

      Big difference between giving up on the season and not ignoring the reality of the situation. I don’t believe in miracles but I’d like to see one. What the heck, let’s still play the next 81 games – what do we have to lose? Really good to see Ervin contribute even if Lady Luck was with him today. Disco and Yasiel’s stock is up and RI’s is down, Suarez’s gets a bit of a bounce too.

  69. Reddawg12

    If I have to hear Thom say “and ALL OF A SUDDEN” one more time I’m going to blow my brains out.

    • lost11found

      It’s not just Thom, but used all over in many sports.

      My sons and I got hooked watch biathalon this winter and one of the announcers there said it and I almost fell off my sofa laughing.

  70. RedAlert

    Better be glad for those runs in the 9th – Iglesias is trash !

    • Indy Red Man

      He got the key outs he needed to get although that was a terrible 0-2 pitch to Heyward. I picked up Heyward in 2 cash fantasy leagues….the guy is a monster right now!

    • Grand Salami

      Was hoping his home stand would give him 5 innings or so of clean pitching to increase his trade value. So much for that.

      Is this the ‘gassed’ look of a pen? Everyone looks like they are battling command issues.

  71. Tom Mitsoff

    Nice win, and nice to take the series, but Iglesias is just not the same pitcher he has been the past few years. Bell can’t afford to lean on him as the primary closer.

  72. Jeff Morris

    Nice win by the Reds today….but Iglesis had two strikes on Heyward, and should have put him away with a slider OUT OF THE STRIKE ZONE, or at least tried….to throw a slider or change up down….instead he throws another fast ball that Heyward is probably waiting for….and he drills it for a home run. If I was Bell, I would pull Iglesis into my office, and talk to him about that, along with the pitching coach!

  73. lost11found

    Said above, and echoed here that its always nice to see the cubs fans leaving early.

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  74. docmike

    I wonder if all the people on here roasting Bell over pinch-hitting for Disco, will give him credit for the move of pinch-hitting Farmer for DD?

    Lots of posters only want to blame Bell for the decisions that backfire, but refuse to give credit for the ones that work out.

    • Rich H

      Couldn’t agree more doc. Good luck convincing ’em lol.

  75. TR

    What a difference a day makes. Disco got it done.

  76. Grand Salami

    Puig is playing himself into a trade chip. He is picking the perfect time of year to play his best baseball.

    Even if the Reds finish out this home stand let’s say at 7-2 (giving them essentially a .500 record), they should look to be both buyers and sellers in this market. Puig and Roark could net something good in AA and something more.

    The Reds have not been playing one of their better hitters (Winker) and they won’t have many places to play DD when Scooter is playing. They have a lot of good hitters but no one great at the moment (JV included). Offering rentals and maybe even Raisel who is controlled could help them upgrade which is the move that they need.

    • daytonnati

      I understand the sentiment and would not be opposed, but I wonder what Puig would take to stay? Just for curiosity’s sake? A Choo-like deal with Rangers? If so, I say keep him. He plays with fire and never stops attacking.

      • TR

        Puig covers right field well with some speed and a strong arm. His style of play reminds me of Brandon Phillips and he gives the Reds some personality that has been lacking since the departure of Phillips and Chapman.