Two weeks ago, I laid out the Reds’ road to come. The team had 12 straight games against over .500 teams and nothing less than 9-3 would prove their contender status. The results depended on three names: Tyler Mahle, Curt Casali, and Yasiel Puig.

Well, the Reds went 7-5, falling short of the mark, but swept the Astros and split with the Brewers. Instead of clarifying if the Reds should be buyers or sellers, the two-week gauntlet felt like a hedged bet. Tyler Mahle pitched one stellar game and another so-so one. Curt Casali cooled off considerably, but still outhit Tucker Barnhart’s 14 wRC+ in the same span. Only Yasiel Puig met his expectations, hitting a scalding .400/.449/.867 with a 231 wRC+ over the stretch.

There still may not be clarity on the direction of the Reds 2019 season, but the past two weeks did make one thing clear: Yasiel Puig deserves an extension.

When the Reds traded for Puig in the offseason, I responded ecstatically. Finally, the Reds had a personality compliment to Joey Votto and a player who knew how to make the game entertaining. At the time, I wrote:

Watching the Reds for the past five years has been a miserable experience. A horrid, uncomfortable, depressing slog. In fact over the last five years, the Reds have the worst winning percentage of any major league team!

It’s been tough. We need some fun. We need some wins.

Well, Puig has brought fun in spades, and in the last two weeks, he’s started to deliver the wins as well.

While Puig’s overall stat line (.240/.286/.461, 88 wRC+) still leaves much to be desired, the underlying contact numbers prove his worth.

So far in 2019, the Reds have hit 71 balls 106+ mph. Yasiel Puig has hit 22 of them while Jesse Winker, Nick Senzel, Joey Votto, Josh VanMeter, Scott Schebler, Jose Peraza, Phil Ervin, Jose Iglesias and Kyle Farmer have combined for 21. In fact, only two other players, Eugenio Suarez and Derek Dietrich, have hit double-digit balls over 106 mph (17 and 11, respectively).

With Votto’s power declining and Derek Dietrich unlikely to continue his Zeus impression for the rest of his career, the Reds will need middle-of-the-order power to complement Suarez’s. Puig provides that.

Also, as Jason Linden pointed out on Twitter, extending Puig allows the Reds to move Nick Senzel back to the infield when top prospect Taylor Trammell is ready to come up. Imagine a lineup of Trammell, Votto, Suarez, Puig, Senzel, Winker, Iglesias/Peraza, Casali. While that 1-8 makes a lot of assumptions about the direction the Reds will take before Trammell is major league ready, it’s certainly worth salivating over.

It’s not as if paying for Puig will be an issue either. Doug Gray estimated before the season began that Puig might sign for a 4-year/$18.75 million extension, a number that would mean more money than any outfielder not named J.D. Martinez or Justin Upton has gotten in the past two offseasons. It sounds like a handsome price, but essentially, signing Puig to an extension of the sort just takes the money the Reds are currently paying Tanner Roark and adding it to Puig’s contract. Given that it’s already been reported the Reds will stay around their 2019 $133 million payroll in 2020, then that extra cash will be there.

Paying Puig now shows the Reds are committed to their window of contending, a window that should open next season and extend at least through Puig’s prime. And really, what other options are there?

The Reds could keep Senzel in the outfield, having him learn a corner so Trammell can play center, and extend Scooter Gennett. That’s a fine option, I guess. But consider that for the entirety of the 2017 and 2018 seasons, Scooter only hit three (3) balls with a 106+ mph exit velocity. In less than a fourth of the pitches seen, Puig has hit more than seven times that.

The Reds could make a run at another under-30 free agent outfielder like Marcell Ozuna, Nick Castellanos, or…Billy Hamilton? Ozuna has certainly outhit Puig this season and should command a comparable salary to Puig, making him a perfectly reasonable alternative. Castellanos also presents a similar batted ball profile to Puig and is a year younger than the current Red. However with Castellanos, there’s a massive dropoff in defensive value that you don’t see with Puig. The Reds won’t re-sign Billy Hamilton and shouldn’t.

Finally, the Reds could trade for a controllable outfielder like Clint Frazier. This option gives the Reds a solid outfield core with huge upside but will likely never come to fruition. The Yankees have already said they have no interest in trading Frazier and there aren’t too many other young, controllable outfielders that teams will move without demanding a haul of the Reds prospect depth.

Unless the Reds are ready to pony up for Marcell Ozuna, an unlikely possibility, a Yasiel Puig extension makes the most sense for the team. It gives the lineup a second legit power bat, allows Nick Senzel to move to a more natural extension, and keep this team lighthearted and fun for the foreseeable future.

64 Responses

  1. docproc

    Too many outfield candidates in the minors to consider extending Puig (who won’t come as cheaply as suggested here).
    Current OPS in parentheses (Puig’s is finally up to .746)
    First wave: Aquino (1.050), VanMeter (1.159), Longhi (.843)
    Second wave: Siri, Trammell

    • Pete

      Thank you. Two weeks do not make a season. And you are right the too candidates for the future that play outfield. What the Reds do, or don’t do, at the trade line will have a lot to do with the next couple of seasons. This team is not a World Series contender nor will it be in the future if the ridge to not take chances on acquiring young talent.

      • RojoBenjy

        Agreed. They shouldn’t make stupid deals just to make the playoffs if they aren’t yet good enough to take it all.

        I just don’t trust the people that make the baseball decisions for the Reds. They are penny-wise and baseball-foolish. I say that because history demonstrates it.

    • Klugo

      Non of those “candidates” are Puig nor probably will they probably ever come close his production. I don’t think Puig is all that, but I feel the same about our farm system; especially at the top.

    • Wesley Jenkins

      To clarify: the suggest contract is 4 yr / 18.75 mil PER YEAR. Not total. Not cheap at all.

    • Michael E

      My worry, as is a real worry for many Latin/Cuban players, is will he start off chilly every April and May, maybe the Reds already out of it, and then suddenly start hitting in June and July to keep Reds from trading a vet or two and then trading a promising prospect for some average RP…only to see Puig fade during the dog days of late summer?

      Too many latin players struggle in the chilly U.S. weather in April and early May. I’d pay at least some attention to this trend unless you love being 15 games out at the end of May every year only to claw back enough to keep treading water and making dumb “go for it” trades that keep weakening the future.

      I know Puig had a good April/May/June his rookie year (his best months of his career so far, downhill since), but that was based in sunny/warm LA in April for more than half his games, along with some in SD and ARI.

      I hope the Reds do due diligence here. In fantasy baseball, I avoid slow starters like the plague because they can mean your team is out of it just 6 weeks into the fantasy season. Real MLB baseball isn’t much different if you have a couple of slow starters that you’re counting on, you can be so far back no hot streaks in July will make up for it.

    • Michael E

      Puig seems like a likeable, charismatic guy, but I don’t think he’d be a good ROI for 4 yrs at 18 per. Like others, I love our OF depth in the minors. It really wouldn’t take much to be as good as Puig hitting wise. His career numbers are more or less average for an OF. He has a great arm but his defense is just okay with less range than a speedy guy should have.

      That’s not a terrible deal, but Puig, much like Chris Archer, is valued more highly than his past stats suggest. The production for Archer was SP4 his entire career and yet several teams acted like trading for him would get them an ace. When there was a whiff that the Reds might be interested, I felt sick…Archer is routing a 1.3 WHIP, 4.00 + ERA pitcher, in other words, he is not even league average. The Pirates are regretting that trade and we’d likely be regretting extending Puig, no matter how “likeable” because we have several CHEAP and controlled OF candidates that will need shots. We can use the money saved on a more dire position come 2020 or 2021, like an ACE (Castillo is close, but having another SP1 would make instant contenders, regardless of mediocre hitting).

      Anyway, that’s my opinion. I just see Puig getting overvalued when you look at his career numbers, nothing stands out, not even his power (he struggles to get to 25 HRs or a .260 average).

  2. David

    No to Puig.

    Why pay so much for a player who may be at his peak now? The Dodgers traded him for a reason, and not because he is a bad guy or has no talent. They had more talented, less expensive young players knocking at the door.

    Another bad contract that will cost the Reds in the out years.

    And Frazier would cost the Reds too much in prospects.

  3. TR

    Do it the Braves way and go young. Trade Puig for prospects. An outfield of Winker, Senzel and Aquino for next season.

    • David

      Yes, at the minimum. I agree. Give Aquino a shot. He is only OPS’ing over 1.000 at AAA ball.

    • Klugo

      If someone else thinks that Puig is “all that” then I’d go in on trading him for legit prospects.

  4. Seat101

    I think he’ll be more expensive than your estimate. Even so, I say extend him.

    If our prospects actually do become a major league players good enough to not need Puig, we can trade him.

    Extending Puig means we won’t have to spend prospect capital
    .We will need to get two pitchers over the off-season either by trade or free agency and we need to upgrade catcher.

    Extend? Yes please

  5. C Holbert

    A prospect, is still just that, a prospect. Developing has not been a strong point recently, and there is still not much on the immediate horizon. Puig is what he is, as the saying goes, swings wildly a lot, but there ma not be any better option, and he does make them fun. The money will be there, so go ahead. It was inevitable that DD and his power surge would go away, and the Reds have to have run production from the outfield.

  6. Colorado Red

    Takes two to tango.
    We do not know, if the Reds already approached Puig about an extension or not.
    If not, put a QO on him, and get a comp pick.
    The next will tell if we are sellers or not.
    So many teams in front of us. Worst we can do, is sit pat, and lose all these players for zipo.

  7. per14

    No. I like having Puig around. He’s a fun player. But, he’s on pace to have a fWAR under 1.0. He has an OBP well below league average. He is a poor defensive player. Giving him big money is the type of mistake MLB teams did 30 years ago.

    • greenmtred

      He had a very slow start, so his poor overall numbers for the season to date are subject to change. I disagree about the poor fielding, too. The mistake he makes is over-throwing cutoff men, but he covers ground, plays hard and makes the plays.

  8. matt hendley

    A reasonable extension with Puig is a good Idea. So is the QO.

    This has been the point the entire time, get individuals through the trades that are worth keeping and….. wait for it….. make efforts to keep them. No one is talking about a ten-year deal, but a few years certainly would not leave the team worse off.

    Tramell is the only real prospect in the minors that will without a doubt make the majors right now. He is still years (plural) off. Siri will be a cheaper billy hamilton.

    A QO will give us either Puig for another year, at a price the FO has now indicated that they can afford. Or it will give an extra draft pick.

  9. Jreis

    Yes. Sign Puig and bring back Billy. Call up Jose Siri and let him play left and you have the greatest defensive outfield since the 1990 club! I like it!

    • Lwblogger2

      Other than perhaps Puig, they won’t hit a lick. Siri may in a couple years but that only IF he can get his K-rate under control and perhaps bump his BB-rate up. Lots of things to like about Siri but giant questions. As for Hamilton, I don’t know what to say. He won’t hit. He is still a very good defender in CF, one of the best, however even that talent seems to be fading. He also has had a terrible time staying on the field. He’s missed a lot of time with KC this year.

      I’m of the belief that defense is important but you can’t have an OF with 2 plus defenders who are very unlikely to hit and 1 average defender who hits about league average for a corner OF.

  10. RojoBenjy

    Engaging discussion.

    The one thing I’ll point out regarding Wesley’s article is that the Reds aren’t so sure that Trammell can play CF, from what I’ve read elsewhere, and also judging by how they’ve played him in LF most of his career to date.

    If that is true, then TT doesn’t solve any problems when he comes up and they still have 66 on the roster.

    That being said, if Puig will sign reasonably, I wouldn’t complain. But the Reds have walk away power, and they should use it. Meaning they shouldn’t be desperate to sign Puig, so they shouldn’t make any stupid deals to keep him.

    • Jim Walker

      I was reading thru the comments to see if anyone had already brought up the point of Trammell not being a sure thing as a CF.

      Jose Siri is a sure thing for CF on the defensive side. Now if he could just prove he would be more than a BHam offensively, the issue would be settled.

      • Pete

        If push comes to shove, will Senzel do??? We have a CF if necessary.

      • vegastypo

        That’s the part I don’t get. Senzel looks really good in center field, so leave him alone. Maybe re-sign Scooter since he actually wants to stay. Re-up Iglesias for a few years.

        I’ve always thought the Reds could do better than Puig on the free agent market at some point. And he can be a headache in the clubhouse, apparently. That might emerge with a multi-year deal.

      • RojoBenjy

        @Pete

        I do expect Nick Senzel to get better and better in CF. After all, he’s learning the job for the first time in the big leagues. And I would be satisfied with him staying there.

      • Jim Walker

        I don’t disagree with leaving Senzel in CF. Think his talents would be wasted if he ends up as a corner OF though.

        Siri is already a top drawer CF, if he could hit well enough, it would be a no brainer to put him there and forget about.

  11. emfueago

    I’m in the re-sign camp but assume its moot right now. I have to assume he is going to test free agency to see what is out there. The Reds should express enough interest to gauge his willingness to return and keep lines open after free agency begins. If he gets hot the rest of the way he is probably too expensive. If he doesn’t he could be a bargain. And ideally Roark’s money goes back into pitching. I will miss watching Puig show off his arm at every opportunity if they don’t keep him.

  12. Doc

    Extend Puig at least for the years it will take until one of the young guys prove they are better…at the major league level. Giving AAA stats and comparing them to an MLB player’s statistics, is not comparing comparable numbers. For example, why not include Van Meter’s MLB performance? Puig is hitting well now and he is fun. Baseball is entertainment, is it not?

    • docproc

      I realize minor league numbers don’t necessarily translate to the bigs. My point is that we have 3 outfielders in AAA putting up impressive numbers. I’m betting one of them could put up numbers equal to what Puig has done thus far this season.

      By the way, VanMeter had a .347 OBP in his brief stint in the bigs (Puig’s at .286). He showed good plate discipline and flashed a good glove. I’m not trying to make too much of this small sample–just saying that he and the other prospects would be younger and cheaper than Puig. And maybe perform as well or better.

      We’ve been grooming Aquino for years, and he’s now blossoming at 25. Why let him rot in the minors when he might be able to replace Puig’s power bat and cannon arm?

      • Curt

        Bingo! Trammell this, Trammell that. He’s still in AA, playing LF more than center and not exactly setting the world on fire. At least move him up to AAA before we start penciling him in. Aquino and VanMeter are the best prospects NOW for the big club. Whether or not they’re given a fair chance to prove themselves remains to be seen.

  13. Pete

    I have posted this before: the FO must first decide when they can legitimately contend for a WS title and start from there – not just to be in the running for a wild card slot. The Astros should be the model.

    If a player is going to be contributing member of the team in 3 years, he should be kept; if not, that player should be dealt for young talent. The future is off in the distance, it is not around the corner.

    If a one-sided trade, favoring the Reds, involving Castillo or Suarez; it should be made. The Morgan trade should be a model if the opportunity presents itself.

    • Tv

      They will both be reds for longer. Planned contention is next year. You dont trade aces for prospects

      • Pete

        “Planned” contention is next year. I’m not holding my breath. You trade “anyone” who improves your chances of winning. A team is not about individual players. If these guys are worth more to the Reds as Yankees, so be it.

        This team will not be in the WS next year. This should be the goal and finding the shortest route there, the mission. Personally, I think 3 years minimum but that’s one man’s opinion but it doesn’t change the objective.

  14. Don

    As much as Puig is entertaining, he is not a cornerstone piece for a world series champion. If he was then Dodgers would have not let him go as Dodgers are in their window for championships. Puig is a known quantity. He will hit a .265 with 22 HRs a year. A nice major league power hitter but not one to let go to give a prospect a chance.

    If the team does not get to .500 record by last week of July, trade everyone not under team control that someone will take for anything and play the hitting prospects.

    Look at what Atlanta,Houston,Washington did with their prospects. Bring them up, put them in the lineup and they play every day.

    Prospects never turn into steady major league players if they do not start and play every day. Promoting a prospect to the majors and then starting once every two weeks and pitch hit 2 or 3 times a week is not how a prospect becomes a good or great player.

    Ervin, Aquino and VanMeter have stats from AAA which deserve a long stretch to prove they can or cannot be a solid player for the Reds. Blandino was starting to prove himself before the injury in 2018.

    This is what was done in 2016,17,18 with the pitching prospects and Castillo and Mahle look to be likely long term starting pitchers in the majors. The rest of all other other pitching prospects have washed out as started, some are great bullpen. Why have so much patience with pitchers and give a hitter 20 ABs over a month and the hitter is sent back to minors.

    The team needs to weed out the hitter the rest of 2019 (assuming they do not get to .500 in the next 4 weeks) and not play out the string in 2019 with 1 year contract players that will not be resigned for 2020 and beyond and the ? marks as to if the prospects can play at the major league level. Seen that for 3 years with pitching, do not want to wait 3 more years to go through that with the hitting.

    • RojoBenjy

      I share the frustration with how position players are treated by the Reds after they are called up. I think your proposal of getting to .500 by late July is a good benchmark.

      They could have been doing that during the Price is Right tour, but they didn’t. They did audition plenty of pitchers during Mr. Fbomb’s tenure, though. Come to think of it, he didn’t really have hitting prospects to work with at the time. He sure wore out the pitchers, though.

    • Jim Walker

      I agree for the most part but now the Reds see themselves past the point of “sorting”. So, they aren’t likely to just put any of these guys in the lineup long term to see what happens. Maybe the error was holding on to some of the position people they kept while the pitching sorting was going on?

      By way of reference, Nick Senzel was a very special case because he was #2 overall in the draft. Let’s see how they handle Jonathan India who was #5 overall with a similar college background to Senzel.

      Taylor Trammell was #35 overall out of high school and may be more comparable in the development process to Winker who was #49 overall out of high school.

      • RojoBenjy

        Jim, that’s what frustrates me. The Reds think they are done with sorting position players but they really aren’t in my opinion. The fact that they don’t know what to do with Jose Peraza is a prime example.

        If they really think that next year they will contend as someone above said, then what do they mean? Contend for a WC spot or just the division? Because they don’t yet have the pitchers to win the WS.

        Being satisfied with just contending for the sake of contending is a half measure and the team will flame out in 2 or 3 years like they did 2010-2013. Overall it just smacks of Castellini wanting to avoid 90 wins in the 150th anniversary season.

  15. Matt WI

    Trade him if you can, allocate that money for pitching. Pitching, pitching, pitching. It’s what’s got them improving this year, it’ll be what keeps them there.

    • David

      Yes. A mid -range talent outfielder as Puig is not going to marginally make the Reds better unless their pitching is in the top 25 percentile of the NL.

      People think of the Big Red Machine as clobbering people.

      Look at their team pitching stats. They were always around the top 3 or 4 pitching staffs in the league.

      • Pete

        I’d rather build the team around position players, far more likely to give you production year in, year out. Have a core of good solid starters, great bullpen, and if in a battle for the end goal, deal for ace, or two, during the season.

        Homer Bailey looked to be on track to be an ace for many years to come and we see what happened. Tommy John surgery is all too common. Pitching still wins championships but considering the reliability factor, strategy is foremost in acquiring what is necessary – especially the top spots in the rotation.

      • Matt WI

        I think a team of bashers can help you stay in contention, but it’s very unlikely to help you actually win it all. By playoff time, the team of hitters will face a team of good pitchers, and good pitching usually wins out. The best teams simply have both, as David pointed out about the BRM.

  16. Pete

    “Planned” contention is next year. I’m not holding my breath. You trade “anyone” who improves your chances of winning. A team is not about individual players. If these guys are worth more to the Reds as Yankees, so be it.

    This team will not be in the WS next year. This should be the goal and finding the shortest route there, the mission. Personally, I think 3 years minimum but that’s one man’s opinion but it doesn’t change the objective.

  17. Phil

    In 2017 and 2018 Puig hit 264/337/490
    In March & April of 2019 he hit 192/226/354
    From May 1st through today he hit 268/320/524

    Outside of a bad first month of this season, Puig is the same hitter he has been for the last 2+ seasons.

    That slash line for the 2017-18 seasons came with a 120 wRC+ which was 20th among all outfielders. That’s the hitter I would expect to see over the next 3-4 years and one that I would want in the Reds lineup.

    • Tampa Red

      There isn’t a single OF’er in the Reds minor league system that would realistically put up the same numbers that Puig will over the next 2-3 years. Most aren’t even capable of putting those kind of numbers up in the minor leagues. I will be very disappointed if the Reds don’t attempt to extend Puig for 2-4 years

  18. Mark Lang

    Ugh… and again, ugh.

    So, even after this “hot streak” we’ve got: (.240/.286/.461, 88 wRC+).

    Who in their right mind looks at those numbers and says – “let’s get him to ink a multi-year deal” – just crazy.

    No one was higher on the idea of Puig coming to the Reds and thinking he was going to have a monster season and wish that he could be signed long term at the beginning of the year.

    Some of us have a learning curve… others…

    • Sliotar

      @MarkLang

      Wes’s article feeds further into the “Lovable Losers” mentality that the Reds project, whether they mean to, or not. And that many writers, RLN and elsewhere, buy into.

      Keeping this team “lighthearted and fun for the foreseeable future.” is exactly my main concern, after 25 years of not winning a playoff round. /sarc

      If this team can’t figure out how to get younger and cheaper (and better to boot) at a corner OF spot over the winter, and instead re-sign Puig…….then a whole bunch of folks (Williams/Krall/Bell/Jocketty/Whomever Else) need to be removed from roster development.

      • PhP

        I agree about not carring about if they have “fun personalities” or not. But I disagree about your premise. Mark is siting stats from 3 months, that were heavily influenced by 1 terrible month. He historically is closer to a 120wrc+ hitter. Having a hitter like that isnt anything to get upset over. I can see both sides to the debate but don’t act like he will be a 88wrc+ hitter at the end of the year.

    • greenmtred

      And if the season ended today, you’d be right. And you may yet prove to be, if he tails off, but he got off to a terrible start and it will take awhile to neutralize those numbers. Let’s see how he looks in a couple of months.

  19. Roger Garrett

    Just don’t think you extend Puig at all because I believe Ervin could do just as well and at a fraction of the cost.His line last year in less then 300 at bats was just as good as what Puig has delivered to date.Senzel,Winker and Ervin can give this team average to above average stats offensively and hit 60 + homers if you just pencil them in every day and give them 550 at bats.In addition we have we are told outfielders on the way which means Senzel next year or in 2021 moves back to the infield.Puig should not be high on the priority list.I personally would think our present infield including the catcher spot needs more attention and now because none of the present guys including Scooter are young guys.Of course the article is about extending Puig and for me I just don’t see how it helps based on what it may cost.

    • Brian S Jolley

      It is my opinion that Ervin is a big step down defensively. I also do not think he is as talented offensively, especially when considering their ceilings.

    • Curt

      I can see an argument for an extension if it’s a short one. One that isn’t going to pull money away from a FA SP or result in the trade of any VanMeter, Aquino, Trammell or Siri.
      On the other hand, a RH power bat with WS experience despite the slow start might be our most valuable trade chip in a month when teams start smelling the postseason. Might get us that young near ready AAA catching prospect we need or??
      I like Puig and the extras he brings to a club but he get’s more expensive with every hit and with 25mil a year going to JV, the only sound decision I can see is the rest of the field should be young and controllable. Make sure the money is there for the pitching if we can get it. A big “if” as Cincy is rarely a destination of choice – sad truth.
      Oh and @Roger, thanks for that reply on previous thread, we definitely share a similar take on the big picture. cheers

  20. Jeff Gangloff

    I’m out on re-signing Puig. The Reds could upgrade in free agency in the off-season. They have the means to do so.

  21. RojoBenjy

    Don’t think they will if he wants to stay, because bobbleheads.

    • RojoBenjy

      By the way while agree that the preferable thing would be for the Reds to try to get trade value from Puig, I strongly disagree with you saying that this is a silly and amateur article.

  22. Brian S Jolley

    If he would sign for less than 20 million dollars for 4 years I would do it in a heartbeat. I have serious doubts that he would do so without testing the FA waters.

  23. Klugo

    I don’t think we could really go wronghere. We need a legit OF to win now or in the near future. I don’t see any of our OF “in the wings”really duplicating his production.
    We also need to strengthen our farm system for the future. It’s getting a bit depleted. And most of the bats in the minors are questionable(at best) if you’re looking for winners. So trading him makes some sense too.

  24. Tom Mills

    I really like the moves the Reds have made since (IMO) Dick Williams has really grasped control from Castellini. We were finally able to get rid of Billy even though Bob liked him. And we moved on from the Homer Bailey mistake.

    Extending Puig at salary numbers higher than he earns this year would be a very bad sign. Even at 10 million, we are forced to play him even when he stinks.

    If he wants another 10 million extension on a “prove it deal”, I’m ok with that. But a long term deal will be a big mistake. Ideally, we find out in the second half of the season, whether Aquino can be Puig at 10% of the cost.

  25. Steve Schoenbaechler

    I still can’t help thinking that Puig is living off his first 2 seasons still. He “can” still be an effective hitter, but nowhere near what he was then. Given that, I can’t help thinking there may be others out there who would would be equivalent and cheaper.

  26. Sid Mickle

    No way! Trade him ASAP! I like the guy but the Reds can’t afford to like guys. He is on the downside of a very avg career. Move him, move Scooter, move anyone except your core starters and Castillo. Stop hoping and guessing. Make the moves to get this team going. Win 6, but right back into last place? This team is not a winner…yet!

  27. matt hendley

    Fact: Puig is better than anything that the Reds can produce right now for right field. After a whole year.

    Similarity scores peg Puig closest to Larry Walker (MON, COL late 90’s, and Jermaine Dye, multiple AL teams same time frame). What did those two players have in common? MVP votes in their Age 30 + seasons. Walkers case it was a yearly occurrence. SO is there anyone in the minors that is going to get MVP votes this year? Tramel may get AA MVP votes, there again he may not. Siri, Please, they dont give MVPs for Ks. Aquino is a hit and miss. He may, but his newfound ability to make contact is new, but also could be a fluke.

    Absolute fiction that 30 starts a downturn for all baseball players. A combination of increased practice, physical conditioning, and proper care can drive this age well into the late ’30s. Puig has productive seasons ahead of him. MANY seasons. Aside from Tramell and Maybe Aquino not a singular other OF ‘Prospect’ may have any season at all. If Tramell can hit leftys, its not Puig you get rid of….is it.

    Through his Age 35 season. 15 Mil a year, or 10m/20m guarantee/incentive which i think would suit him better as well. It certainly would be a good investment.

  28. doofus

    Seriously, extend Puig because he is entertaining?

    What about results on the field? After 7 years in MLB Puig still does not know where the strike zone is.