Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (23-28) 6 14 0
Chicago Cubs (30-20)
8 11 0
W: Maples (1-0) L: Hughes (2-2) SV: Chatwood (1)
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The ball was flying in Chicago on Saturday, the pitching struggled on both sides, and in the end the Cubs came out on top to even the 3-game series at 1-game each.

The Offense

The Reds notched 14 hits and they added 3 more walks, but it wasn’t enough on this day. Joey Votto, Eugenio Suarez, and Tucker Barnhart all had 3-hit games. Barnhart would get the star of the game if they handed it out as he fell a triple shy of the cycle. His home run in the 2nd inning gave the Reds a 2-0 lead and was his 5th of the year. Yasiel Puig kept the home run parade going with a solo homer in the 5th, his 9th of the season that helped bring the Reds back within a run after 4 1/2. In the 8th inning, MAXIMUM DEREK DIETRICH tied the game up at 6-6 with a solo blast, his 13th of the season. Jose Iglesias went 2-4 during the game – both of his hits were singles.

The Pitching

It was a tough day, pretty much all around, for both sides. Tyler Mahle allowed 6 runs in 5.0 innings – giving up 3 home runs (Darvish gave up 6 runs in 7.0 innings and also allowed 3 homers). Michael Lorenzen was perfect in his 2.0 innings of relief. Jared Hughes allowed 2 hits and a walk before exiting the game having given up a run and the lead in the 8th. Wandy Peralta came on and allowed an inherited run to score before completing the inning.

Notes Worth Noting

Derek Dietrich now has an OPS over 1.000 on the season. He’s slugging .645 on the year.

Jose Iglesias’ two singles pushed his average back over .300 on the season. He’s now up to .304/.333/.422 on the year.

Former Red Rookie Davis is back in the big leagues.

Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds

Cincinnati Reds at Chicago Cubs

Sunday May 26th, 2:20pm

Tanner Roark (3-3, 3.51 ERA) vs Jose Quintana (4-3, 3.30 ERA)

38 Responses

  1. Jeffversion1

    I am going to start betting against them every time they get to 4 under .500. It’s becoming the surest thing in sports.

    • FreeHouse

      They have not won a game on Sunday either.

    • Hanawi

      They’ve been consistently average for over a month now. Only one streak of more than 2 wins or losses in a row during that time.

  2. Reddawg12

    Tough loss, it happens. My concern is the starting pitching the last 3 days. Hopefully it’s just a random string of bad starts and not the rotation starting to regress.

    Just can’t seem to get any closer to .500 than 4 games under.

  3. FreeHouse

    Maddon kept the Reds in the game but couldn’t capitalize. On the bright side Votto looked good today. Winker was just bad his last 2 at bats.

  4. Wayne nabors

    what hurts so much about that 9th inning is,i really don’t believe chatwood could have thrown 3 strikes befor he threw 4 balls,winker should have been taking from the get go,bases juiced for puig would have benn sweet,but oh well on to tomorrow

  5. matt hendley

    Players are all starting to come around. Desptie massive blunders by winker, the team as a whole has begun to hit well, JV and TB with 3 hit games. Puig with 2 HR in 2 Games. Even David bell seems to have settled into something that works most of the time.
    The Problem is the FO. Despite the impulse to blame David bell for roster moves, the actual culprit is Dick Williams. Therefore when we play against an LHP tomorrow without Reed and WIthout Ervin remember that.
    Reds need to break the Sunday Curse. Pirates rotation is in shambles and i have a feeling there will be another fight before that series is done.

    • Wayne nabors

      if bavid bell wanted reed in the major leagues he would be there,not all Williams

      • matt hendley

        Undoubtedly, Bell has the ability to recommend, but the decision is Williams and Williams alone.
        A similar analogy is a relationship between a military commander and his/her senior enlisted advisor.

      • Wayne nabors

        matt,military commander takes best soldier for job period,bad analogy and i was in military,if bell wanted reed Williams gives him reed,bell likes his dukes and peraltas
        plain and simple

      • matt hendley

        Wayne, I am in the military, so I do have a little idea what i am talking about here.
        Dick williams who for the sake of this analogy, will be our Commander is advised by his First sergeant (Bell). Bell says…’We should do this’ Dick Williams then says, ‘yes we will, or no we won’t’. I think the analogy works, but i respect those who, are familiar with what i am talking about and don’t or have no idea what i am talking about at all.

        Regardless, there is no Field manager that can unilaterally option a player down or bring one up. Its his responsibility to work with the 25 man roster. While its the GM/PBO responsibility to build the 25 man roster, and maintain the 40 man roster.

  6. Roger Garret

    Wind blowing out from the get go meant it was going to be one of those games.Releivers give up runs and when they do it late its the ball game.Happened to them yesterday and to us today.Team fought and had a bunch of chances but couldn’t come up with the big hit.The Cubs got the big hit twice from Rizzo with two out and Bote in the 8th.Lorenzen was really good today.I just feel at some point the Reds need to see what he can do as a starter.His stuff plays when it comes to keeping it in the park.

    • Jazzmanbbfan

      One thing to take from this, and Friday, is that the team is battling. You don’t win them all and this time it was the Cubs’ turn. Hopefully the Reds can break their Sunday losing streak today.

  7. TR

    Let’s go Tanner to get a series win tomorrow.

  8. Shchi Cossack

    Mahle had a chance to really step up today, but too many mistake pitches with 2 strikes doomed his day. With the wind blowing out, those mistakes do not require much umph to put them out of reach.

    I thought today was the perfect opportunity for Hughes to make hay, but DB opted for Lorenzen over Hughes as the 1st reliever off the bench. Lorenzen absolutely dominated with 6 batters face in 2 innings with 3 SO and just 19 pitches. The only reason he accumulated 19 pitches was the 3 SO; he threw only 7 pitches to the non-SO victims.

    As @Jack noted in the Game Thread…
    “The problem with running a half dozen relievers out every game, besides wearing them out, is that eventually you run out the guy who is having an off day and loses the game for you.”

    Spot On!!!

    With Lorenzen completely dominating every batter he faced and only throwing 19 pitches, DB pulled him in favor of Hughes. Hughes is a good reliever and a ground ball pitcher to boot, but there was no reason to pull Lorenzen from the game. Hughes came in and had nothing, no control & no movement. A walk, a single and a double later, the Cubbies had the lead in the 8th inning with one out and runners on 2B & 3B with Wandy Peralta replacing Hughes. Nuff Said.

    • Nick Carrington

      I’m with you here, Cossack. Mahle got hit hard all day. Early, he had some BABIP and sequencing luck, but the Cubs had 7 balls hit at 99.99 MPH or higher and several others with high hit probabilities. It caught up to Mahle in the middle innings.

      The contrast when Lorenzen came in could not be greater. He had 5 swings and misses on only 9 swings. 3Ks and 2 ground outs against the heart of the order. Even the “lineout” had an xBA of .120.

      I fear Bell over thought it. Lorenzen would have faced the 6-8 batters after easily retiring 1-5. The Reds best chance was to get through the bottom of the eighth unscathed and bring up the heart of the their own order in the top of the 9th. Peraza is likely a better hitter than Lorenzen, but the value Lorenzen was providing on the mound was too great to take him out at that point, especially when Mi-LO can hit reasonably well.

      Also, the Reds need to get somebody in the pen stretched out a little for when a starter really struggles early, which has happened a few times lately. After filling that role last year and possessing starter’s stuff, Lorenzen seems like that guy. Today would have been a good chance to get him that extra inning and a few more pitches.

      I understand why Bell did what he did. I think it was defensible. But, I’d prefer he stick with the hot pitching hand after watching his starter get beat around for 5 innings. One more zero could have been the difference.

  9. Shchi Cossack

    As soon as the Reds drove Darvish from the mound, the Cubbies were in trouble if the game was close and Maddon knew it, so he rolled the dice with Darvish as long as possible. Fortunately for the Reds, that resulted in a tie game and Iglesias on 1B and no outs in the 8th inning. Maddon followed Darvish with Ryan (4.96 ER and 3.86 BB/9), Maples (16.20 BB/9) and Chatwood (5.52 BB/9 and 1.23 HR/9).

  10. Shchi Cossack

    I’m not sure what to make of winker’s struggles. I’m a huge fan of Winker, but his plate approach stinks this season and there’s really no sign of improvement. At this point he simply looks completely lost and frustrated. If Winker is responsible for changing his plate approach in some attempt to hit HR, causing him to lose selectivity and roll over on balls resulting in weak grounders to the right side, then he needs a trip to AAA to get himself straightened out (see Schebler, Scott). If someone is encouraging him or instructing him to change his plate approach in favor of hitting more HR, causing him to lose selectivity and roll over on balls resulting in weak grounders to the right side, then Winker needs to man up and instruct them to suck a pickle while he implements the plate approach that got him to the majors and resulted in significant success for the past 2 seasons.

    • RojoBenjy

      Would love to know of Ward is the kind of instructor that expects everyone to do it his way (see Bratkowski, Bob- ex-Bengals offensive coordinator), or one that looks at his players’ strengths and builds on those (see Johnson, Derek).

      Any articles out there that I could read to give me insight on his approach?

    • Still a Red

      Agree that if I were Winker in the 9th inning, I would have been more selective against Chatwood…especially since it was clear that I was not hitting well at the moment…or even tried something ‘sneaky’ like bunting (not sure how the defense was aligned)…something Russel did effectively earlier. Unless the pitch he swung at look like a beach ball coming up there, he really needed to work the pitcher.

    • Lwblogger2

      +100 for “suck a pickle”

      You’re the bestest Cossack (Warren)

  11. Art

    I agree that it did not make much sense to remove Lorenzen, but if you do replace him on the mound, why pinch hit for him? I don’t mean why have Peraza bat for him, but why have anyone bat for him? I thought that he was a good hitter. Why not save your bench? Am I missing something?

    • RojoBenjy

      The only think i’m tired of is seeing Wandy Peralta instead of Cody Reed. Although in today’s game, the damage was done before Wandy came in.

      Wonder if the strong wind was messing with Hughes’ cutter? I’ve heard him say that other conditions, for instance in Denver, mess with the action of his cutter and breaking ball. He adjusted to those. Just wondering if the unpredictability of turbulent wind affected his pitches today.

    • Steven Ross

      That was my exact thought Art. Lorenzen was dominating plus he can hit so why PH for him? Total agreement. I just get the feeling Bell is one of those managers who will find a way to rip my heart out with a move which makes zero sense. I’ve said it all along: until this team gets five games over .500, I can’t get too excited.

  12. Reddawg12

    Watching the Dodgers vs. Pirates last night, the broadcasters kept talking about how the Dodgers struck out so much more last season, and relied too heavily on the home run ball. Max Muncy was saying the same thing after the game. He said this season they have more of an emphasis on producing runs in a variety of ways and hitting situationally, and we can all see the results.

    I’m not saying Turner Ward is definitely the reason the offense has been inconsistent and home run dependent. But it does make me wonder.

    • Ron Payne

      I feel like the Reds brought Turner Ward here for one reason. Puig.

      • TR

        You make a good point. Homeruns make for drama but not for a balanced attack with runners in scoring position. And the struggle to reach .500 continues.

    • VaRedsFan

      They were home run dependent last year too.

      • Reddawg12

        True, but they also had a lot of guys working counts and taking walks. I’m not sure how it ended up, but I know for a while the Reds were in the top 5 for OBP in all of MLB last season. We haven’t seen that level of patience (yet) this season.

  13. Scott Gennett

    Season’s first 1/3 is already gone and the roster is almost set. I’d say once Gennett is back, two moves will happen: Either Farmer or Peraza are sent down, and Dietrich will spare time from Winker in LF, even though I’d actually like to see Ervin up and Winker down for sometime.

    • Hotto4Votto

      It will be interesting to see what happens when Gennett comes back. It moves DD to the bench more regularly than he has been. Which definitely gives the bench a good power LH bat. Personally, I’d prefer Farmer than Peraza as a RH bench player, but the issue is I’m not sure how much I like the idea of Farmer backing up SS (even though he did some in ST). But I also don’t really like the idea of Peraza being the RH bench OF option when Bell inevitably sits Winker vs. LHP. Peraza’s bat doesn’t play well enough to be in the corner OF. VanMeter supposedly can back up SS as well, though we haven’t seen it at the ML level. He did play in 12 games last season in the minors at SS, so there’s that. Lots of decisions, made more challenging by the fact that Bell almost has to have an 8-man bullpen with the way he burns through relievers.

      Personally, give me DD, Ervin, VanMeter, and Casali on the bench and I think that’ll work just fine.

  14. Roger Garrett

    Peraza will not be sent down.He will be given every chance available until he gets to expensive to hit 200.Look for more of the same next year.Unlike Winker with his 500 big league at bats,Peraza has over 1500 and really doesn’t have a position yet continues to get just as many at bats.Winker is struggling but he has hit every where he has played.He will be fine if he gets regular at bats.Just amazes me how one guy can be treated one way in year 4 and another guy in his first full year another.Winkers stats although not good are still better then Peraza’s for goodness sake.

    • Pete

      Agree, Winker looks like a natural hitter with his sweet stroke. Left field is a spot where the guy has to hit. I’d leave him out there everyday and live with the growing pains. Yesterday was abysmal, had to be his worst as a professional – it would have been preferable if he would have struck out 4-5 times. Today is a new day and if he’s smart he will take away a lesson learned – sometimes you just want to keep the line moving for the next guy.

      Peraza should be sent down to play everyday and workout the bugs but we won’t.

  15. Shchi Cossack

    Puig looks to be coming around at the dish.

    April: (.192/.226/.354/.580)
    May: (.240/.296/.440/.736)
    May 1st 10 games (.243/.333/.324/.658)
    May last 10 games (.237/.256/.553/.809)
    May last 4 games (.313/.313.688/1.000)

  16. Shchi Cossack

    Facing LH starting pitcher today…

    1. Nick Senzel (R) CF
    2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
    3. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
    4. Yasiel Puig (R) RF
    5. Jose Iglesias (R) SS
    6. Jesse Winker (L) LF
    7. Jose Peraza (R) 2B
    8. Curt Casali (R) C
    9. Tanner Roark (R) P

    • Shchi Cossack

      That lineup looks pretty solid today.

      I would actually keep Winker hitting down in the lineup even against RH starting pitchers with Dietrich moved up the #4 hole between Suarez and Puig.

      • Pete

        Solid idea. Bell doesn’t seem to value a hot hitter over a struggling bat in the lineup. Maddon moves his guys around according to how well they’re performing and if my memory is correct, so did Trader Jack. I really don’t know if the approach is right or wrong but it seems to at least meet the common sense standard.

  17. Still a Red

    Agree that if I were Winker in the 9th inning, I would have been more selective against Chatwood…especially since it was clear that I was not hitting well at the moment…or even tried something ‘sneaky’ like bunting (not sure how the defense was aligned)…something Russel did effectively earlier. Unless the pitch he swung at look like a beach ball coming up there, he really needed to work the pitcher.