Happy May Day!  Last night the game slipped through the Reds fingers twice. They did not take advantage of having the Mets bottom starter paired against their top man, Luis Castillo. Then after the Reds finally rallied to extend the game to extra innings, their top reliever served up a victory to the Mets in short order. Tonight in game three of this series, things could to be even tougher against the top of the Mets rotation. Game time from  Citi Field is 7pm.

Starting Pitching


Anthony Desclafani gets the ball for the Reds at game’s beginning. After missing substantial portions of the last three seasons due to injuries, elbow; oblique (twice), Disco hopes 2019 is a redemption tour. So, far as might be expected, his results have been uneven through 5 starts as he shakes off the rust. The good news is that much of the carnage creating his current shakey stat line happened in 2 early starts. His last 2 starts have been very effective. RLN’s Matt Wilkes has taken a deep dive into the adjustments Disco is making. Check it out here. Matt’s bottom line is Desclafani has recovered his curveball, found a little extra oomph on his fastball and is mixing them effectively. The missing piece is his slider which he continues to work on. Thanks again Matt.


Righthander Jacob deGrom starts for the Mets. deGrom is the reigning NL Cy Young winner and to boot also finished 5th in the NL MVP balloting last season. However deGrom has not pitched to form since his second start of the season on April 3. On April 16 deGrom who had TJ surgery in 2010 and surgery for an elbow nerve issue in 2016 was placed on the Injured List with a sore elbow. After much ado, a scheduled MRI was cancelled; and, he returned to the rotation on April 26. In that start he allowed 5 earned runs in 5 innings (3.36 FIP) versus the Brewers. So, it is life is a box of chocolates time for the Reds tonight. Who knows which deGrom they will get.

Anthony DeSclafani 5.01 1.26 1.78 10.1% 25.7%
Jacob deGrom 3.69 1.38 1.73 8.8% 37.7%

Keep in your thoughts that both pitchers have made 5 starts. deGrom’s first two starts were brilliant with 0 earned runs allowed while inversely DeSclafani has allowed just 1 earned run in his 2 most recent starts. Definitely a box of chocolates night.



Despite needing to cover only 2.2 innings last night (thanks to 6.2 innings from Luis Castillo), the Reds pen is somewhat in disarray. Raisel Iglesias has worked on consecutive days throwing 50+ pitches. He almost certainly is not available tonight. Thursday being a matinee, he could be done for the series. David Hernandez worked on a third straight day Tuesday. That’s a career first for him. Count him out for tonight. The heavy lifting today would seem to fall to Michael Lorenzen and Zach Duke. Robert Stephenson, Amir Garrett and  Jared Hughes should be OK for short stints.

UPDATE: This afternoon the Reds called up Matt Bowman, a righthander, to bolster their bullpen. Phil Ervin was optioned to open the required roster spot.


The Mets used 4 pitchers to cover 4.2 innings of relief. The main point here is that their closer Edwin Diaz who wasn’t available last night should be good to go tonight. However, prime setup man Jeurys Familia is almost certainly not available tonight. He has been put on the injured list. Leftie Ryan O’Rourke has been added in his stead. Two other Mets relievers also threw over 20 pitches last night and could be limited tonight. This could be a factor if deGrom turns out to be a short timer.


           REDS            METS
1. Joey Votto (1B)
2. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
3. Jesse Winker (CF)
4. Yasiel Puig (RF)
5. Derek Dietrich (LF)
6. Tucker Barnhart (C)
7. Jose Iglesias (SS)
8. Anthony DeSclafani (P)
9. Jose Peraza (2B)
1. Jeff McNeil (LF)
2. Peter Alonso (1B)
3. Robinson Cano (2B)
4. Michael Conforto (RF)
5. J.D. Davis (3B)
6. Brandon Nimmo (CF)
7. Amed Rosario (SS)
8. Tomas Nido (C)
9. Jacob deGrom (P)

What’s to say? Slightly interesting that Winker is in CF given the size of CF at Citi. With Nick Senzel’s pending call up, who knows what implications that may or may not have moving forward.

News and Notes


No, it is not our imaginations, the baseball really is flying over the fences at a record rate. Kudos to Reds pitchers for largely not helping hitters contribute to the HR Boom.

Nick Senzel has been told he is being called up to the Reds. Doug Gray has the latest at RedsMinorLeagues.com.

And here is an overall look at the Reds outfield situation right here at RLN from the keyboard of Jeff Gangloff.

Final Thoughts

Last night was a tough loss for the Reds. The offense squandered a golden opportunity with Luis Castillo pitching well versus the bottom of the Mets rotation. Along the way, the team’s hitting star was involved in what appeared to be another inexplicable TOOTBLAN at a critical point. Then after the offense finally awoke enough to at least extend the game to extra innings, the team’s other ace, closer Raisel Iglesias, promptly coughed it back up.

Alas if this were hockey, at least the Reds would have garnered the loser’s standings point for extending the game beyond regulation. But it isn’t; and, they don’t. So, we’re left wishing for a (potential) star, Nick Senzel, to arrive (Friday, right? That’s really for sure?!?) and make things right.   Sometimes it is hard to hang in with this crew. But today is a new game in a new month. I’m here writing. You’re here reading. Thanks for your time. And all together now, GO REDS!!!


Data and stats via Baseball Reference, Fangraphs, and MLB.com

79 Responses

    • TomN

      I’ll do the honors; “Thrown Out On The Basepaths Like A Nincompoop” (not sure about the spelling of nincompoop, but you get the idea.


    • George

      TOOTBLAN means Thrown out on the Basepaths Like a Nincompoop.

      • WVRedlegs

        You did Paul Harvey proud there b-town. The Rest of the Story.

      • ToBeDetermined

        Do you have all those ready on the tip of your tongue when appropriate ?

        It really is amazing how many of those words I know. But, then there is “galah, nong, bogan, poon, boofhead; mompara”. I’ll need to add those to my vocabulary. 🙂

  1. Old-school

    Go reds.
    20 games in 20 days and catching up to the bullpen. At least the manager, pitching coach and FO seem to be on the same page.

    April is over. May starts today at 12-17 . Can’t afford a slow start.

  2. matthew hendley

    Reds are only a game and a half out of 4th place. Baby steps, hope that DeGrom is in poor form tonight, and we steel one. Bowman is a good send up for the BP, he may not just be there for a Cup of Coffee if he can get it done. Certainly fixes some issues as well as Ervin will be getting regular at bats. This will also effect some issues as far as senzels coming up.

    • Jim Walker

      Figures Bowman is only keeping the roster spot warm until Senzel arrives. But then they could jettison a different pitcher and keep him.

  3. Sliotar

    Reds are projected a league-low for the night 2.87 runs. Mets at 4.13.

    If deGrom navigates the top 3, only Dietrich would seem a threat after that. Not what we all envisioned over the winter, for sure.

    DeSclafani has a combined pattern, this year and last, of going around 5 innings and giving up just under 2 HRs per start.

    Given the opposing pitcher and the bullpen work of the last 2 nights, this team really needs less longball and more inning(s) from him tonight.

  4. ToBeDetermined

    “So, it is life is a box of chocolates time for the Reds tonight. Who knows which deGrom they will get.”

    I don’t think it really matters which deGrom they get. They made Vargas and Familia look like 2017 deGrom.

    They got to start hitting. I saw the highlight of Farmer’s hit down the right-field line last night. It was a beautiful piece of hitting. He took a curve ball that was outside and moving away from him and he didn’t try to over-swing. He just threw the bat-head at the ball and hit the ball where it was pitched.

    I haven’t watched too many at-bats this year but it seems like they are trying to hit too many high exit velocity swings rather than taking what the pitchers are giving them.

    Sure, if your up in the count 2-0 3-0 or 3-1 look to a specific location and take a whack at it, otherwise look to pull the inside pitch, go up the middle or the other way for the pitch away.

    It’s hitting basics class 100.

    • Curt

      (Re: Farmer hit) Votto used to hit like that. Wish he still did.

  5. Sliotar

    Not per start, per 9. Still too high, especially as the Reds haven’t played much at home, and certainly not in warm weather.

  6. Roger Garrett

    If Cy Young Vargas goes 5 + and gives up 3 hits I wonder what their ace does.He is laughing at this lineup and he should.After Puig he can just toss it up there and get these guys out.

  7. FreeHouse

    Vargas tossed a gem yesterday so that means DeGrom will throw a complete game shutout with 13 ks.

  8. VaRedsFan

    Notice how Degrom doesn’t mess around with wasting pitches??? His 1st 15 pitches were fastballs and strikes. No nibbling or waste pitches. At least not in the 1st inning.

    Of course, being able to pump it in there at 98 helps.

  9. Old-school

    This is one of those games where reds start ST with 60.losses. winkergreat at bat though.

  10. Vada

    I don’t care what argument Votto fans put up, NONE of them JUSTIFY $22M a year salary. For that kind of money Votto should have a BA of at least .330. Scooter hits that and receives a mere pittance.

    • Hanawi

      Really? Have you seen what some players get paid these days? Votto doesn’t crack the top 10. He happy he isn’t Pujols, Cabrera, Cueto, Cespedes, or any number of other top 40 paid guys that actually suck or are injured.

    • da bear

      Scooter is also overpaid at $9 or $10MM this year. Can get that production at a fraction of the cost plus better defense if they put Senzel at 2B. Iglesias has been a pleasant surprise – top level defense plus great clutch offense….for $2MM. Votto is a great guy but the front office made a huge mistake paying him $25MM a year thru his declining years. He doesn’t want to play anywhere else so we’re stuck with his production level at a highly inflated price. Just have to make due with Senzel, Trammel, & whatever other guys in their severely underpaid years thanks to the seniority system before their arb years kick in.

      • matthew hendley

        Neither Scooter or Votto are overpaid. Votto provided more then the value of his contract SINCE THE TIME IT WAS SIGNED. It was backloaded. We are paying him now for the production on the field of years ago. When it is averaged out it works. He is still an above average hitter. He is a notoriously slow starter. He had 3 separate hard hit balls last night 2 that would leave most yards. Scooter is going to be an immediate upgrade at second when he returns. He has been a top 3 player on this team since he arrived, making all projection systems look like jokes. At 2Mil Iglesias is a steal. Now an extension would be worth a bit yes, but will easily be covered by the Money coming off the books. I would take an infield of Scooter and Iggy for the next 3 years, No questions asked.

        ‘But what about Senzel’ you say. Read the tea leaves I say. Trammell has started in LF the entire season at AA. He is not going to center. Siri has not fixed his K problem and is not a guarantee to make it to the Majors at all. By the end of the season the number of games Senzel has played in Center will have eclipsed the number of games he has played at second. If the bat is as good as claimed he will be the CF of the future.

  11. Wayne nabors

    Reds stand good chance of getting doubled no-no today and tomorrow

  12. Doc

    Baseball players are paid for what they did in the past, not the present or future…and therein lay the problem.

    • da bear

      They are overpaid by bad executives making poor resource management decisions

  13. Roger Garrett

    Painful to watch but hats off to our starters who know they won’t get any support.Front office obviously sees what we see so it will be interesting if they try some guys from the minors.I know they may be over matched and will require some shuffling of the roster but maybe there is somebody that could help.Just saying.

  14. Jim Walker

    Not to jinx him; but, it looks like Disco is pitching well in his own right.

  15. Curt

    Mets announcers just punished Suarez for an at bat where he had “no intention of trying to advance the runner”, an approach that “ might be the reason for offensive woes”…can’t say I disagree

  16. WVRedlegs

    Ducks on the pond and Yasiel misfires. Again.

  17. VaRedsFan

    AJ Pollack to the DL again…big infection. I’m glad the Reds didn’t pursue him like so many here wanted.

  18. VaRedsFan

    Winker nice running catch in deep right center

  19. Wayne nabors

    Sometimes you just got to do it all,he stopped the no hitter anyway

  20. steve stevens

    I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again. These players are just plain dumb. In the middle of a month long slump they hit at every first pitch, good or not. They are dumb runners (see. Mr. Votto), dumb fielders.
    You can say whatever you want about Pete Rose as a person, but man, wish these dolls have 10% of baseball saavy he had.

  21. RedAlert

    Just ashamed to waste the type of pitching they are getting. – And wow , quick hook by Bell !!!

  22. Sliotar

    85 pitches and DeSclafani is gone.

    Hard for me to believe either Bell or ownership or someone in the front office isn’t really emphasizing squeezing out wins and trying to stay relevant.

    Even so, still hard to believe the stress being put on the bullpen.

    • citizen54

      You were calling Desclafani a bum yesterday. I would have thought you would be rejoicing now that he is out of the game.

    • RedAlert

      Put Schebler on the bus to Louisville tonight – geeze !!! Stupid move Bell

  23. WVRedlegs

    Special K up to bat.
    Even worse than a K. GIDP.

  24. Roger Garrett

    Bell is trying to keep it scoreless cause his team can’t hit.Disco may have or may not have got Conforto out but he felt Peralta had a better chance.For me I have no confidence in Peralta but it worked so we move on.

    • Aaron B.

      Except he did the double switch so Schebler was the guy with 2 men on base and no outs. Even Disco could have bunted them over in that spot. Argh!

  25. Sliotar

    When you get DeSclafani in a pitcher’s park, ball isn’t carrying on top of it… and the bullpen has literally been squeezed two nights in a row…. in a 0-0 game, maybe let him run a little further.

    Game flow on a given night can make bums look decent. You probably aren’t getting this outcome on a humid night in August at GABP, so roll with it.

    But, I am sure you knew that.

  26. steve stevens

    See what I mean? 2 runners on, no out, and the next 2 batter take a whole total of 4!!! pitches….off a pitcher close to 100 pitches. Their baseball IQ is about 0.

  27. Indy Red Man

    I bet Under 7 tonite. Like stealing money. Of DeGrom would go right back to Cy Young and Disco has been strong lately. Its a shame they’re wasting all this pitching?

    Rangers called up Danny Santana earlier and he’s hitting .355. He had 28 atbats in the bigs last year. The Reds never do that. NEVER! They’d rather have 6 guys hitting .130 to .230

    • Aaron B.

      They haven’t had a proactive GM since Krivsky was sent packing.

    • steve stevens

      And nobody is cursing at the front office like they did with Jocketty for the terrible roster or lack of moves after a month. I guess it wasn´t the lack of sabermetrics or “old school” approach after all.

      • Indy Red Man

        The front office finally shook it atleast. Make no mistake though….Jocketty sucked! Priggleman sucked. Having a parade of scrubs go from the Reds to Japan/retirement sucked. Now we’re just back to Basic Underachieving 101:)

      • matthew hendley

        I remember those horrible years of 2012, 2010 and 2013

      • Indy Red Man

        Yeah I remember when he traded Grandal and others for Latos. Latos who singlehandedly finished off the Reds come from ahead series loss to SF. Mr Meltdown. 16-7 during the season and tattoo ink on the brain come game 5. Jocketty should’ve been drawn & quartered Braveheart style

      • matthew hendley

        Drawn and quartered for a 16-7 season, that incidentally was repeated the next season…that’s dumb.

        Drawn and quartered for Latos who came into game one and pitched 4 innings on a short warmup and went into game 5 on Short rest when Cueto wasn’t coming back. That sounds dumb too.

        Drawn and quarters for producing Disco out of him? Dumb.

        He had to pitch on short rest with no one else avalible, it happens sometimes you lose. Mike leake didn’t win, Homer didn’t win, cueto pitched 8 pitches in the entire series.

        Selective memory sucks when you get called out on it.

      • Aaron B.

        Jocketty was also inclined to sign ex-Cardinals and would allow the team to play short-handed constantly. He did make some good moves. Suarez is one those moves I believe. But he is slow in making changes. Like right now the team is afraid to rock the boat, that is Jocketty’s mentoring influence. Krivsky would have made a bunch of moves by now to shake things up. THat is what the original comment was about.

      • Aaron B.

        Jocketty let Ryan Ludwick play with a bum shoulder for 2 or 3 months, that is the type of thing we are talking about here. have some stones and bring in some new blood before things get out of hand.

      • Indy Red Man

        Jocketty just sucked. Hiring him for the Reds GM would be like hiring me to be the GM for the Patriots. I’d drive the Kraft family and all the staff to massage parlors and make sure they had it all on video. They’d be 4-12 within 2 years. You beat the competition….you don’t hire their hand me downs.

  28. Ed

    Scott Schebler can’t hit his way out of a paper bag. In my opinion, having him successfully bunt would have been huge. I thought it was a no brainer, so apparently Bell lost his. This is unrelated, but all these broadcasters (including Marty) calling walks at-bats drives me up the wall. Aren’t they supposed to be students of the game?

  29. Vada

    No guessing allowed. Does anyone have any idea what the hitting coach’s job is? GM hires one of the best and batting averages are MUCH MUCH worse than 2018 stats. Reds are better off not even hiring one.

  30. Indy Red Man

    Ok stat nerds….job for you

    I say Puig is in the top 10 in the NL for balls hit 100+ mph in the last 2 weeks. Can that be found? I think he’ll be fine!

  31. matthew hendley

    Votto is swinging tonight, he was right though, that ball was outside… a lot, would have been a great time for DB to show a pair and come out and support his team.

  32. matthew hendley

    Disco stood toe to toe with Degrom, didn’t blink. No reason he should have been pulled in the 6th. Peralta did defy expectations again. Hughes returning to 2018 form. No excuses now, Degrom is out.
    If you need a reason why the sacrifice bunt is still a necessary part of todays game, the scott schebler at bat should be enough.
    As I write this of course Zach duke is coming in, If he messes this one up, he does not deserve to make it to Friday.

  33. matthew hendley

    I am glad that we traded Tramell and senzel for kluber and his…..*checks notes* 5+ ERA. Oh wait.

    • VaRedsFan

      Wouldn’t have had Senzel if they shipped him to the Marlins for Yelich.
      Trammel was for JT Realmuto. Never was mentioned both of them for Kluber.

      • matthew hendley

        I’m sorry I lose track of who is supposed to go where in these overblown trades. Thankfully they are still here, the Indians are having to look over there sholder for the Twins, and by Saturday Senzel will be the CF of the future.

  34. matthew hendley

    please explain again why he hasn’t been extended again?

  35. RedAlert

    I’ve seen enough of Iglesias at SS for Reds to sign him to multiyear deal – wizard with globe and adequate with bat ! Sign him up !

      • matthew hendley

        Give him a Globe and he would probably be a wizard with that as well.

  36. matthew hendley

    OH NO…. This means that if Lorenzen gets the Save….Zach Duke will get the win……. THE HORROR.

  37. daytonnati

    Anybody else getting the vibe that Winker is assuming a leadership role on this team?

    • matthew hendley

      I get the vibe that the NYM fans are not fans of him.

      • matthew hendley

        but he is Trolling them to death

  38. VaRedsFan

    Another beautiful catch by Winker!!! Game over!!!

  39. Pete

    Huge win. Got a W when DeGrom pitched. Have to give it to Bell, guy knows what he’s doing.

    • Grand Salami

      It’s like a trade for yesterday. We beat their number one in an unlikely scenario just as they did yesterday.

      A win tomorrow makes this a .500 trip. I’d take that almost every time!

      • TomN

        Actually, it’s a .500 trip right now. Tomorrow makes it either 4-3 or a 3-4 trip.