Last week as the Winter Meetings came to an end, the Rule 5 draft closed things down. The Cincinnati Reds picked up Connor Joe. He had spent the 2018 season with the Los Angeles Dodgers in Double-A and Triple-A. From 2015-2017 he was in the Pirates organization after Pittsburgh drafted him in the 1st round (39th overall) of the 2014 draft (did not play in 2014). He spent six weeks with the Braves organization late in 2017, too.

The Pirates surprised most by selecting Connor Joe with the 39th overall pick. Most expected him to last until the third round. It wasn’t just where he went, though, it was that he was not announced as a catcher – where he had spent his time in college. The returns weren’t immediate for Pittsburgh as a back injury kept him off of the field for his entire first professional season. In 2015 he missed the first month of the season before joining Low-A West Virginia. He didn’t hit much there, posting a .245 average and slugging just .303. But he did walk 50 times with just 34 strikeouts in 80 games. That led to him falling out of the Baseball America Top 30 prospects list within the Pirates farm system. His defensive time all came at first base that season.

In 2016, now a 23-year-old, Connor Joe was assigned to the Florida State League in Bradenton where the Pirates complex is. He played there the entire season and hit much better. His .277/.351/.392 line looks merely solid on the surface. But the Florida State League is the toughest place to hit in the minor leagues and the league as a whole posted a .677 OPS. His strikeout-to-walk ratio jumped backwards from the previous season, but was still solid with 45 walks and 84 strikeouts in 107 games. He went to the Arizona Fall League following the season – but only played in 15 games. After playing all 96 games on defense at third during the regular season, he played in the outfield in the Arizona Fall League.

The 2017 season saw the Pirates send him to Double-A. Connor Joe once again struggled to hit for an average, posting a .240 mark for Altoona before he was traded to Atlanta in early August. Things got worse in Mississippi with the Braves organization over his final 20 games where he hit just .135. In late September the Dodgers acquired Joe for international slot bonus money.

Just about everything changed in 2018, though. The only thing that remained the same, was his strong plate discipline. The Dodgers sent him back to Double-A to begin his season and from the start of the year he raked. In the first half he hit .304/.425/.554 with 38 walks and 57 strikeouts while hitting 16 doubles, a triple, and 11 home runs. That earned him a promotion to Triple-A Oklahoma City. His offense slowed down there, but not by much. In 49 games he hit .294/.385/.494 with 10 more doubles, two triples, and six homers. Between the two stops he hit .299/.408/.527 with 46 extra-base hits. In short, it was far and away his best season as a pro. His previous high in OPS was nearly 200 points lower than what he had in 2018.

So what was the difference? He started hitting the ball in the air more. From 2015-2017 his groundball rate was between 44-47%. In the 2018 season that dropped down to 38%. He was always known to be a guy who hit the ball hard, but without getting it in the air enough, the power simply wasn’t able to play. The Dodgers are known to be a team that pushes “getting the ball in the air”. The Reds picked up the Dodgers hitting coach this offseason. He may or may not have had anything to do with making the selection. But he certainly is the kind of hitting coach that should be able to keep Connor Joe on the same track that he was in 2018.

It’s worth noting that both stops in 2018 for Connor Joe were hitter friendly environments. Of course, so is Great American Ballpark. Let’s take a look at the spray chart for the right-handed hitter in 2018 and how his power played to each part of the field.

He showed big power to his pull side in left field. But he also showed off real power to the opposite field, too. And if you’ve ever watched even one series of baseball games at Great American Ballpark, you surely know how well fly balls travel to right and right-center field. This could be a very interesting thing to watch for if Connor Joe makes the roster out of spring training.

As was something that was written about quite a bit above, his plate discipline sticks out. In his career he had 196 walks and 268 strikeouts. That’s a pretty strong strikeout-to-walk ratio. A guy who has some pop and draws walks in Great American Ballpark? That sounds like a decent combination of skills that could play quite well.

It’s the defensive side of the game where Connor Joe may have some issues. No, it’s not so much that he’s a bad fielder. It’s that he’s not a good fielder, either. And that all of the positions he can play are seemingly spoken for. He’s capable of playing first and third base on the infield. Short of an injury, he’s not playing over Joey Votto or Eugenio Suarez. Maybe he can get a start once a week when one of those guys gets a rest.

In the outfield he can play left or right field. Jesse Winker posted a 125 OPS+ last season, and he apparently did so with a bum shoulder that he had fixed – but cost him much of the second half of the season. Scott Shebler posted a 106 OPS+ last year. It’s unlikely that either of these two lose their job early in the season. They are, however, more likely to sit for a tough match up for Connor Joe, though. Both Winker and Schebler are lefties, while Joe is a righty. That could provide him a few additional chances in the outfield that he won’t get on the dirt.

Of course, it’s also worth noting that at least in 2018, he hit right-handed pitching better than left-handed pitching. It was mostly just due to power, though. He hit .314 against lefties with a .406 on-base percentage. But only 2 of his 17 home runs came against lefties in half as many plate appearances. The same story held true in 2017, too. But in 2016 he OPS’d 1.011 against lefties with just a .641 OPS against righties. But back in 2015 he was once again better against right-handed pitching.

With how the roster looks today, it’s tough to see Connor Joe not making the team. They clearly liked what they saw from him enough to select him. And with the ability to play on both the infield and in the outfield, he’s got a lot of versatility to help fill out the bench. Exactly how the team will use him, and where, is up in the air. But there are some options there. And realistically, there may be some upside with his bat, too.

23 Responses

  1. Matthew

    Matt Harvey will not be returning to Cincinnati next season. He is Anaheim-bound!

    • Davy13

      So typical of Reds management of the last few years:
      – Pick up (traded for) a veteran pitcher who had lost his mojo
      – Everyone (99.9% not an exaggeration) can see that said pitcher will not be valuable to the success of the team except as a trade chip
      – The plan seems to work, because the vet pitcher pitches well enough by the July trade deadline to trade and get something in return…
      – But the team scraps the plan and keeps him to…
      – NOT sign him at all in the offseason…
      – Nothing was gained by the team by trading for him other than more blogpost attention in RLN which I giving in futility.

      I hope this kind of management changes.

      • Thomas Jefferson

        This kind of management has been very frustrating. The good news is that those who were getting in the way of trading BH and MH seem to have stepped aside, and those making better decisions seem to be in their place. I am glad that the Reds did not pay $11+ million for Matt Harvey. And to your point, I am not glad that they did not get something for him last summer; I just hope that is a sunk cost, and I am glad that current decision-makers didn’t try to make last summer’s non-trade look better by signing him now.

      • Ghettotrout1

        That is a hilarious but perfect explanation of the Reds Hahahahaha.

      • LWBlogger2

        The ONLY defense I can offer for the organization is that they needed somebody, anybody, who could get some outs. I think the plan at the time was to save a little money too as although the trade was “salary neutral”, the cash was sent across already, so a deadline deal would have saved the team between $1-million and $2-million.

        That defense is pretty flimsy though. I mean was the 2nd half of Harvey on the mound and the outs/innings he consumed worth more to the Reds than the box of balls and 2 cases of Natural Light that the Brewers were apparently offering?

      • DrBagel

        What offers did they get for him at the deadline?

  2. CP

    Good pick up considering the little cost of acquisition. I wonder if he can become passable at 2B as well? All four corners is great, but throw in some 2B and that’s another lefty that he could spell on days against a good LHP.

    Pick-ups like these don’t move the head lines but can make a difference throughout a season for a ball club. To have a flexible off the bench guy who can hit for power, and can take a walk, all the while only making ML minimum is not nothing. Here’s to hoping he found something last year and can keep up the production!

  3. old-school

    Could he catch in that rare extra inning marathon game or the last couple innings of a 9-1 game?

    • LWBlogger2

      He apparently was working some at catcher for the Dodgers although it doesn’t appear that he got any game action in there. Maybe in an emergency he could catch a few innings but it’s tough to say. I mean, he caught college pitchers but he must not have been particularly good at it because nobody has tried him behind the plate as a pro. Usually if you think a guy can stick back there, you keep him there unless his bat is so good that you don’t want to risk injuries.

  4. Mark Moore

    The possibility of strapping on catcher’s gear in an extended game also makes him interesting. No, he won’t be an All Star there, but if he can manage it while Blandino is doing his inning or 2 of pitching, that’s a bonus. Rare thing, but a bonus.

    It’s as good a Rule 5 as we’ve seen of late. I hope it works out.

    • LWBlogger2

      I’d think he could catch a position player pitching.

  5. CFD3000

    So right now, assuming 13 pitchers on the 25 man roster, the Reds have Barnhart, Votto, Gennett, Peraza, Suarez around the infield, Schebler, Ervin and Winker in the outfield, and a bench of Casali, Joe, Blandino and… ? There’s room for one more and his name has to be Nick Senzel. At least after the Kris Bryant window passes. It will be interesting to see if the Reds sign or trade for another outfielder, and if they keep or trade Scooter Gennett. If Gennett is healthy and he and Senzel both hit as expected, this will be a much upgraded offensive eight from 2018. That’s just from the low hanging fruit swap,of Senzel’s bat for Hamilton’s, and the upgrade from hurting Winker to healthy Winker. I’ve been in the move Gennett camp for a long time, but it doesn’t seem likely now. In any case, this sets up the Reds on offense. Now it’s time to open the wallet for Dallas Keuchel or play payroll games with the Dodgers and bring in Alex Wood. Please.

    • Bill

      I am not sure Blandino will be ready, so possible someone to fill that role at least temporarily. I assume if they get another OF Ervin is the odd man out

      • CFD3000

        I was wondering about Blandino. The job should be his if / when he’s healthy. But has anyone heard updates on his rehab progress and time line for spring training?

  6. Bill J

    Read an article that said the Yankees need a left-handed bat for there line-up & Bennett was mentioned as a possibility. Maybe something will happen.

  7. Bill J

    Should be Gennett not Bennett. Computer thinks it smarter.

    • Big Ed

      The Reds may still add Bennett in with Scooter in the trade with anthem Yanks.

      • Big Ed

        My own computer apparently thinks that the Yankees will merge with Anthem Blue Cross and become “anthem Yanks.”

  8. Phil

    Connor Joe seems like a good fit as a right-handed bench bat that can cover the corner infield and outfield positions, and maybe be an emergency 3rd catcher.

    Barring any other trades or signings I’d guess the 2019 depth chart is something like:
    C – Barnhart, Casali
    1B – Votto, Joe
    2B – Gennett, Blandino
    SS – Peraza, Blandino
    3B – Suarez, Blandino, Joe
    LF – Winker, Ervin, Joe
    CF – Senzel, Ervin
    RF – Schebler, Joe, Ervin

    • Mark Moore

      Plus Joe as “emergency catcher” … I’d say that’s a good depth chart assessment.

  9. Nate

    Sounds like a possible piece to the puzzle that will get a good look this spring. Also makes me wonder if the talks with Josh Harrison weren’t going the Reds way since they seem similar on paper. The differences being the ability to play 2nd, experience, pay and the hometown feel goods that Bob C seems to love.

  10. Hotto4Votto

    He likely stands a good chance of making the roster out of ST unless the Reds add much more to the positional side. The Reds simply do not have much in the way of position players on their roster that could/should be ready.

    Siri and Long will need AAA time. Trahan may make the team if Blandino is not ready to go early on, but otherwise he’s a prime candidate for future DFA (like when a spot is needed for Senze). That’s it beyond Joe, and Casali and Ervin who are almost assuredly making the team as it’s currently constructed.

    Hopefully they’ll give Joe a shot over a minor league signing like Gosselin or Pennington last year (and countless others before them). A bench of Ervin, Blandino, Casali and Joe would cover all the positions.