Good start to the brief 3-game home stand. The Brewers’ starting pitcher tonight didn’t make it through the 2nd inning. Maybe they should have offered a little more for Matt Harvey.

Cincinnati Reds 9 (57-75) • Milwaukee Brewers 7 (73-60)

Box Score || Win % || Statcast Hitters Report || Statcast Pitchers Report

Anthony DeSclafani (28) is in his first season of arbitration, which means he’ll pitch for the Reds for two more years before hitting free agency. Now that he’s come back healthy, it’s time for the Reds to work out an extension with him through 2022. He pitched 6.2 innings, gave up 4 runs, walked one and struck out 6.

Jared Hughes entered the game in the 7th inning and gave up a walk and a 3-run homer to Christian Yelich. It was the third appearance in a row that Hughes has given up at least one run. Hughes has had a great year, but his numbers are moving back in the direction of his career stats, as expected. 

Raisel Iglesias got the final four outs for the Reds, giving up a run in the 9th.

The Reds jumped on Milwaukee starter Junior Guerra in the first inning.  Billy Hamilton singled and Jose Peraza hit his 9th home run of the year. Scooter Gennett singled, Eugenio Suarez doubled and Phillip Ervin walked to load the bases. Tucker Barnhart singled and a wild pitch made the score 4-0.

They added on in the 2nd inning. Billy Hamilton singled but was thrown out trying to steal second (although it might have been a failed hit and run). Peraza, Gennett and Suarez loaded the bases and that ended Guerra’s night. Scott Schebler walked to drive in a run. An Ervin ground ball made the score 6-0.

After the Brewers moved to within a run at 7-6, the Reds added two more runs in the 7th. Mason Williams led off with a line drive single. After Billy Hamilton popped up a bunt attempt to the catcher (Chris Welsh: “Boy … that’s … not good.”) Jose Peraza singled to center and Scooter Gennett lined a triple down the right field line, scoring two runs.

Peraza and Gennett combined for seven hits and a walk, scoring six of the Reds runs. Eugenio Suarez had two hits and two walks.

The defensive play of the game was Tucker Barnhart’s tag at the plate to end the top of the 4th inning. With two outs, Hamilton fielded a single to center. His throw was well up the first base line, but Barnhart fielded it and dove back over — full stretch — to just get the runner at the plate and snuff out a Brewer rally. Here’s the video.

Special Radio Broadcast The Reds were honoring Dayton Dragons radio announcer (and good friend of Redleg Nation) Tom Nichols who was celebrating his 4000th broadcast for the Dragons. He’s been broadcasting for 31 years, the last 11 with the Dragons. Nichols did a terrific job with the play-by-play call tonight for the 4-6 innings. Classy move by the Reds organization. 

Cody Reed Start Scheduled It’ll be Thursday night, in the series finale against the Brewers

Pitching Stats Not including tonight’s game, Reds starting pitcher xFIP since Matt Harvey joined the Reds (May 11): Luis Castillo 3.89, Anthony DeSclafani 4.03, Homer Bailey 4.31, Matt Harvey 4.37, Sal Romano 4.53, Tyler Mahle 4.75, Robert Stephenson 6.62. 

Hey Look, Another Internal Promotion Reds fill amateur scouting director internally: 

[Header Photo: David Kohl, USA Today Sports]

63 Responses

  1. Colorado Red

    Love to see Matt shut out the Crew.
    Maybe should should after offered a big bag of balls, vs 1 or 2 used baseballs.

  2. Sliotar

    The Baltimore Ravens GM, Ozzie Newsome, had a great line once regarding contracts…”Whenever you have time, use it.”

    Just like the Reds should “be sure” on BobSteve (and apparently are, at least as a starter), they should be sure on DeSclafani and let him show next season he is worthy of an extension.

    He will be age 31 entering his first free agent season and like a lot of the Reds, are seemingly valued much more by the Reds front office than the rest of MLB.

    The Reds have time and leverage on Disco, and should use it.

    Besides, a trio of Harvey-Bailey-Disco as top of rotation screams 75-win ceiling next year and aging, IMO…not sure if you want any of those names around past 2020.

    • Jim Walker

      2018 is actually Disco’s first arbitration eligible year. He signed a very team favorable contract ($860K) for this year due to his injury situation. He will remain under team control through the end or the 2020 season unless extended beyond that date.

      However, I agree. Use the time in hand to decide on him. The issue isn’t whether he will pitch well if healthy; it is will he be healthy enough to pitch, especially full seasons. This year made the 3rd consecutive season he was unable to start back up in the spring without being shut down for a long period of time. In 2016 and again this season he did not pitch at the MLB level until June. In 2017, he missed the entire season. Accordingly it just seems prudent to see him shutdown for the winter and successfully restart next season prior to sinking big long term money on him.

      • Hotto4Votto

        I agree, it’s too early to talk extensions with Disco. If he starts and gets through next season without injury I think it’ll be a good idea to explore buying out his last arbitration year and a couple FA seasons. If not, then he’ll stay relatively cheap through arbitration and if he pitches well in 2020 and the Reds aren’t in contention they could flip him. (Unless Big Bob falls in love with him).

      • Steve Mancuso

        If you wait until he has one year left before free agency, you’ll be in the same situation as with Homer Bailey – so close to it that you end up paying market value. Signing him now to a contract that extends him a couple years is closer to the Johnny Cueto (Jay Bruce, Eugenio Suarez) model where the team saves a lot of money and the player trades off cash for security.

      • Hotto4Votto

        The big difference is Bailey didn’t miss significant time in all of the three seasons prior to his extension. If Disco had been as healthy as Bailey had been it’s a different conversation.

      • Steve Mancuso

        But that’s also a reason DeSclafani would be much cheaper to sign now, perhaps super-cheap, depending on his taste for security right now. If he makes it through this season finishing all his starts, that would be enough for me.

      • Old-school

        I agree with signing Disco this off-season if his September looks like his August. He’s pitched 85 innings and is gaining steam and looking very solid.

        There are no guarantees for pitchers or predicting durability.

        August numbers for Disco in 5 starts:

        3-1 34 IP 27K 4 BB 2.62 ERA 3.47 xFIP

      • Hotto4Votto

        I want to see one full season of health before I’m comfortable with a multi-year extension. I don’t think that’s too much of an ask.

      • Steve Mancuso

        This is exactly why (with an example precisely from his arbitration award this year) that the Reds should negotiate with him now, to get a much cheaper deal than if they wait until he’s one year away from free agency (like Homer Bailey) and have to pay full freight.

      • Jim Walker

        How many years are you willing to go if you are DW? You would be rolling the dice that the same oblique which has bit him twice won’t do for a third time (or fourth or fifth).

      • Steve Mancuso

        As I said, two years beyond his arbitration years. Alternatively, Reds could wait for a pitcher with no injury risk.

      • Jim Walker

        I’d go four years only if it is heavily backloaded with a team option at the end of the 2 arb years. In turn I’d offer him a player opt out after 3 years.

        Disco is right at 1 bWAR now for 2018; but, given his low starting point salary, he wouldn’t sniff that kind of money in 2019 at arb.

        Offer him the projected arb salaries for the first two years and what he would project if healthy for the 2 FA years but with the club opt out ahead of the FA years.

    • roger garrett

      Bob was sent down and started over 20 games.Comes up and starts 3 and goes to the pen.If you wanted him in the pen why start him at Louisville?This is Lorenzen,Garrett,Reed,Romano and now Bob that gets a taste then to the pen never to return.Romano does have over 40 starts though.The Reds aren’t sure on anything.

  3. cfd3000

    Didn’t see the game but it seems like Disco and half the offense was terrific, but the bullpen and BHam, Schebler and Casali had a rough night. I know Billy had two hits, but he wasted one of them, failed to get a bunt down, and got bailed out by Tucker on his assist. The box score looks good for him but the details don’t seem to back it up. I know Schebler is still getting his sea legs back but I’m really ready for him to reclaim the leadoff spot.

    Also, a day premature but I’m rooting hard for Cody Reed on Thursday night.

    • Jreis

      It looked like a hit and run that Billy got thrown out but Peraza forgot to swing! Lol

    • greenmtred

      He was bailed out by Tucker, but but the throw was still good enough and–most importantly–he got rid of it quickly and didn’t hit the mound. Good effort by both to save a run and record an out. The wasted hit, as Steve pointed out, may have been a failed hit and run.

      • VaRedsFan

        It was, without a doubt, a failed hit and run. Billy was looking in the whole time while running. IMO you don’t hit and run when Billy is on 1st, he can just steal the base outright.

  4. Ryan Howell (@rmhowell2)

    I know this is a big if but if Disco is healthy he so consistent. Really the only pitcher that seems to get through six innings without giving up a ton of runs. I hope they bring him back.

    • cfd3000

      Disco is a Red for at least two more years, unless they trade him which seems incredibly unlikely. The question is should they extend him into his free agency years. IMO if he makes it through the season healthy they need to be discussing an extension, probably to buy out the first two years of free agency. So that would be four more years of DeSclafani with the Reds.

  5. Jreis

    It seems like Peraza plays a lot better defense at home than on the road. Every game I have been at Gabp he looks solid. Not sure the stats back that up,

    Also I Really like Phillip Ervin’s game now that he is keeping his head in the game more. I would like for him to drop about 10 lbs over the winter. Then he could take Billy’s place next year in center without much drop off In defense!

  6. Jim Walker

    I saw Riggleman quoted as saying the decision was made sometime prior to insert Reed into the rotation because they felt like they wanted at least 1 lefthander. Here we have a solid baseball reason for the shuffle; but, we can also probably pretty safely infer that Reed was to be inserted into Harvey’s spot when he was traded, except of course Harvey’s spot did not come open.

    The plan also probably was to go to a five man rotation all along with Romano ticketed for the pen (perhaps with assurances he was still in the rotation mix for 2019) and Stephenson remaining in the rotation along with Reed being added.

    So, yes there a lot of inference here on my part; but, we can see how a reasonable baseball focused plan was seemingly derailed. Can there be but little doubt this was because of interference from the corner suite?

    • lost11found

      I think there is quite a bit of doubt actually with no firm information on what the brewers were offering and/or where the impasse was.

      The pitfall to inference is that we sometime see what we want to see, almost like a mirage.

      • Jim Walker

        I think the only real inference driven speculation is over whether it would have been Romano or Stephenson moved to the pen to create the 5 man rotation with Reed in it and Harvey gone.

        Walking the situation back, we know that when Riggleman said the 5 man rotation would soon end, Harvey was on waivers. Then yesterday Riggleman made the statement that putting Reed into the rotation was a previously planned thing all along (not a response to RS’s or SR’s performance). So all that really leaves open to question is who made the decision to hold onto Harvey and whether Romano or Stephenson was going to be the other odd man out when Harvey was gone.

      • Scott C

        I agree Jim, I think there is some inference but it still looks pretty plain that the plan backfired in the corner office. And BobSteve gets kicked in the teeth.

      • lost11found

        Stephenson did his own kicking. It very well could have been the brewers who walked away for their own reasons. Not the least of which is that they have traded away alot in the last couple of seasons, and maybe they got cold feet in trading away more.

        Folks that want to lay this at Bob C’s feet will lay it there. Without any specific context on what was offered/counteroffered, its hard to say. Riggleman comments carry as much weight as smoke on the wind with respect to Harvey not being dealt.

      • Jim Walker

        when Riggleman said the 5 man rotation would soon end, above should have been:

        when Riggleman said the 6 man rotation would soon end

  7. jim t

    Peraza is still just 24 years old. He has been able to focus on one position this year and is really putting together a nice season. The arrow is certainly pointing up for him. With how thin we are in the system at SS he is a huge for the organization. I am not a big fan of trying to fit square pegs In round holes. I don’t believe you can play Suarez, Senzel or India at SS. With a pitching staff like ours, you can not afford to give away outs in hopes that the teams defensive short comings will be overcome by a better offense. Championship teams are rarely built that way.

    • Jack

      Exactly. Give the kid another year. These fickle fans wanted to run Cozart out of town for 5 years until he found his hitting stroke. Then they were are gloating saying they knew he was good. Same with Peraza. He was the whipping boy last year because of his offense. Now it’s his defense. The Reds have the greatest scouts and coaches sitting home on their couches. Why they haven’t been signed is ludicrous.

      • roger garrett

        He has a chance to get better.Keep in mind he was given a job by default in 2017 and again in 2018 and has improved.Just wish the Reds could realize how important it is to show patience with all there young guys especially the pitchers.Peraza has stepped up and he will be given another year.Just wish Ervin could be given a full year or Hererra.

      • Hotto4Votto

        Good point. Peraza is the prime example of why we should give opportunity and time to other young players. Peraza was brutal last year but was given another opportunity this season to improve. He took full advantage of that opportunity and the Reds are better off for their patience. On the other hand Stephenson was quite good for over two months of starting (the only stretch he’s had with the Reds that’s lasted that long) but has only had three starts beyond that. It would be logical to assume that pitchers need more patience considering they don’t play everyday.

        I agree that Herrera and Ervin deserve the same opportunities as well.

      • lwblogger2

        Jack, I keep trying to get the Reds to hire me.

    • jreis

      what about giving Hunter Greene some time at short to see what he can do?

      • Bill

        How about giving him some time to pitch above A ball and be injury free?

      • lwblogger2

        If his UCL is actually blown, then I think the Reds still rehab him as a pitcher. But, Green is so young that if he’s rehabbed as a pitcher, and then fails as a pitcher, there is still plenty of time to try him at SS or anywhere else on the diamond (except catcher).

  8. Klugo

    Oh, to have Yelich in CF.
    Reed vs Brewers in GABP? Get a seat out in LF (there should be plenty of them), and dont forget your glove.

    • Bill

      The problem with this idea is, Yelich would be in the corner with Hamilton starting in CF, Winker on the Bench and Senzel wearing a Marlins uniform. The Reds would still have no idea of what a rotation looks like and be in last place.

      I admit that Yelich is better than what the Reds have in the outfield now. I just don’t see how that makes the Reds a contender

    • lwblogger2

      Reed looked pretty darn good today… Yes, Yelich in CF would be great but I don’t think anything short of Senzel, Trammel, and maybe a 2nd-tier guy like Lopez would have gotten it done. Should the Reds have made that deal?

  9. bouwills

    This morning finds the Reds with 4 of the top 18 in NL hitting average. Gennett @ 2nd leads the league. Suarez the third baseman is 12th. Peraza the ss is 14th. Votto the 1st baseman is 18th. Not a bad hitting infield. Casali doesn’t have enough ABs to qualify or he’d be up there too.

    • Indy Red Man

      The problem is that despite being 5th in batting average in mlb…they’re only 14th in runs scored? Not enough power and bad baserunning!

      Anyone see the winning run that Duvall stole last night? They had 2nd/3rd (Duvall on 3rd) with nobody out in a 5-5 game bottom 8th. Hitter hits a ball to the 2nd baseman with the infield in. He looks Duvall back and throws to 1st. Duvall kept his secondary lead and when the 1st baseman looked at 2nd base and was considering throwing behind the runner there…Duvall kept edging closer to the plate then the guy took a step towards 2nd with his arm cocked and Duvall broke for the plate and made it with a nice slide. A beautiful calculated risk to take advantage of an opponents error. Duvall is very fundamentally sound! The Reds need much more of that. Ervin not scoring from 2nd on a double or Peraza not going from 2nd to 3rd when they throw home to get Billy. Our baserunning is bad for the most part….and from most of the roster.

      • big5ed

        Ervin did take a pretty clever extra base last night, on a similar type play.

        Some of the baserunning and defensive lapses are the inevitable result of not being in the pennant race. I wish they could all hold their mental edge, but it probably isn’t realistic. If there is any “momentum” to build for next year, it would include a September of good, hard-nosed competitive baseball.

      • Jim Walker

        Yeah, in the last week the thing that has really jumped out about the teams in the hunt is that they simply don’t give up. They might make physical errors and have an occasional mental lapse but the one thing they don’t do is quit on a game.

        With the Reds, I think we are seeing this most the time from Ervin (now that he’s over whatever ailed him in Detroit and DC) and Williams because they understand they are playing for their MLB futures. Perhaps this even explains some of Curt Casali’s surge.

        However for the most part, the Reds seem to drift in and out of focus. And of course none of the young pitchers whose careers are being defined seem to be able to consistently step up and get the job done.

      • Indy Red Man

        That’s a good point. Lets use Tampa as an example again though….they’re not going anywhere but they come to play every night. A bunch of young nobodies and they’re over .500 in the AL East.

  10. WVRedlegs

    “The Brewers’ starting pitcher tonight didn’t make it through the 2nd inning. Maybe they should have offered a little more for Matt Harvey.”
    Botta-boom. Great one liner, er, two liner.
    Hughes is getting his pitches up and out over the plate more now. He has had a rough 2-3 week stretch. Hernandez has too. And Iglesias did his best Coco Cordero imitation last night. Made it exciting.
    I think Yelich needs to be in the NL MVP conversation. What a colossal mistake it was for the Reds front office to pass on him. He was tailor-made for GABP and the Reds offense.

    FWIW, Cody Reed’s start on Thursday will be in an afternoon game, not a night game. It is scheduled for 12:35 EDT. But there is a forecast for some rain Thursday.

    • Bill

      Carpenter or Arrenado are more desrving than Yelich, probably Goldschmidt and Suarez as well. Unless Yelich can pitch 200 innings a year as a top of the rotation guy the Reds did the right thing by not giving up their top prospects

      • WVRedlegs

        I said in the conversation, not as the winner. All 6 should be in the NL MVP conversation for the remaining part of the season. They are pretty tightly grouped. In no particular order,

        1. Yelich: .310/.373/.545/.917, 27 2B, 25 HR, 91 R, 72 RBI, 43 BB, 119 K, 143 wRC+, 4.2 fWAR.
        2. Baez: .297/.329/.575/.904, 35 2B, 28 HR, 80 R, 97 RBI, 20 BB, 122 K, 134 wRC+, 4.7 fWAR.
        3. Goldy: .292/.396/.546/.942, 27 2B, 30 HR, 82 R, 76 RBI, 79 BB, 145 K, 151 wRC+, 4.9 fWAR.
        4. Arenado: .305/.387/.568/.955, 27 2B, 31 HR, 83 R, 91 RBI, 63 BB, 98 K, 137 wRC+, 4.8 fWAR.
        5. Suarez: .296/.378/.557/.935, 21 2B, 29 HR, 70 R, 93 RBI, 52 BB, 112 K, 146 wRC+, 4.1 fWAR.
        6. Carp.: .274/.385/.577/.961, 38 2B, 34 HR, 88 R, 71 RBI, 8 BB, 123 K, 153 wRC+, 5.2 fWAR.

        Baez has 21 SB and Yelich has 14. No other has more than 5. I don’t now if I can call any of the 6 as front runners.

      • Bill

        I may be wrong, but it seems like many voters like HR totals more than SB, OBP, WAR, or any of the modern stats. That is why I see the guys like Arenado as the front runners. I think Votto was ahead of Stanton in every stat last year excpet RBI and HR.

  11. WVRedlegs

    “The #Reds have announced the promotion of cross checker Brad Meador to Director of Amateur Scouting.”
    Cross checker? What? Did this guy work for the Castellini Foods group? Or did he come over from Krogers? Who is Meador related to in the Reds front office?
    The Director of Player Development is a crucial hire. I hope they at least consider some outside people who may be very good in this field.

    • big5ed

      Meador is evidently a pretty good baseball guy, having coached at UC for 10 years, and then was the scout who signed Nick Senzel.

      • Jim Walker

        However good he might be, the one thing he doesn’t bring is an outside viewpoint with the possibility of the infusion of a different way of looking at things. As national cross checker, he has to be deeply invested in what has already been done in recent years. Looks like more of the same to me.

      • big5ed

        John Farrell’s specific job assignment was provide the outside view. Maybe he had some input on this decision, as well as the other personnel moves they’ve made in development. Frankly, if the decisions weren’t premised at least in part on Farrell’s input, then why did they hire Farrell?

        Plus, I don’t know how any team can realistically evaluate any other team’s scouts. How can the Braves, for example, know what the scouts for the Twins are saying internally about a pitcher in Texas, or how effectively any individual scout evaluates players and communicates with his front office?

        Why would you automatically assume that if a guy came from the Royals or Diamondbacks, then he is by definition a good hire, whereas an internal promotion is necessarily a bad hire? This just seems to me to be knee-jerk negativism.

        I have no real clue whether Brad Meador is a good choice for the job or not, but I doubt anybody else on this board does, either. Judging by the last 3 drafts, including this year’s deft pickups of Mike Siani, Josiah Gray, Michael Byrne and Rylan Thomas, I think that they ought to be promoting from within.

      • WVRedlegs

        Using your reasoning about judging the last 3 drafts, then why was Buckley moved out as Director to begin with? Being “promoted” to something else isn’t the real answer. His “promotion” is the equivalent of an under performing military officer, they promote them from Capt. to Maj. and then move them out to a weather station in Alaska. Buckley was moved out to a Reds weather station in Alaska.
        I am just curious as to why Buckley got the axe. I mean transfer.

      • Jim Walker

        As Steve has pointed out on various occasions most organizations (regardless of business or function) seek an infusion of outside input and talent on a regular basis.
        This insures that the management does not get caught up in a group think cycle. It does not mean all or even most of what an organization has been doing needs changed, just that there is a diversity of thought and viewpoint.

        In an organization which has had 3 winning seasons in the last 18 (or whatever exactly it works out to be) and has the worst record in MLB over the last 4 years, it would seem the Reds should be looking for a better way to do some things.

      • Old-school

        Jim- this theme may be the loudest and most cogent voice to moving the rebuild forward. The irony is DW is an outsider- not at the Thanksgiving table- but in terms of thinking and training and professional background. I do believe he is part of the solution. It’s BC and his “advisors” that have created this quagmire.

      • lwblogger2

        Yes, unfortunately…. He probably deserved a promotion but the Reds are in desperate need of some different viewpoints. Bringing in some guys from organizations who have had success by their staffs, particularly in player development, scouting and drafting. Differing viewpoints are critical to growth. The last time the Reds really looked outside their organization, or Castellini’s circle of friends for a high-ranking baseball operations person, was when they brought in Wayne Krivsky from the Twins.

      • roger garrett

        Yes you are correct.Got to have people that don’t go along to get along.

  12. redsfan06

    Why would you have Billy, the fastest player in baseball from home to 1st, bunt with no outs and a runner on 1st base? Doesn’t his speed minimize the chances of hitting into a double play?

  13. Indy Red Man

    The Cards with Flaherty, Hicks, Gomber, Poncedeleon, and Dakota Hudson. Plus Alex Reyes is hurt and he has better stuff then Flaherty.

    Even the Cubs have to be envious of their scouting and development. The Reds need to do what they’re doing….and fast! Our guys stay in the minors 2 years longer and then can’t pitch half as well?

  14. Scottya

    To further the analysis of the starting rotation since Matt Harvey was added may 11 Reds are 46-48 with a team era of 4.69

    Would be a very smart move to extend desclafani at the likely current discount.

    I wonder what the Reds would have to give up to trade for a guy like Kenta Maeda? He has been moved to the bullpen for the dodgers and has a career fip of 3.62 including a 3.15 this year. Really cheap contract controlled through 2023.

    There have to be deals out there that the Reds can make this offseason to add one starting pitcher that doesn’t require giving up a top prospect, much like the kevin guasman trade. Sign two starting pitcher and trade for one is my hope!