After an uninspiring loss on Saturday, the Reds (25-45) are back at it again on Father’s Day to try salvaging one win from their three-game series against the Pirates (35-35). First pitch is set for 1:05 p.m. ET in PNC Park.

Starting Pitchers

Anthony DeSclafani 10.0 5.40 3.40 24.4% 6.7%
Joe Musgrove 25.0 2.16 3.82 21.9% 4.8%

While Anthony DeSclafani has only lasted five innings in each of his starts as he shakes off the rust from not pitching in a year-and-a-half, he’s had encouraging signs in each of his outings. His velocity is still sitting where it was pre-injury (93 mph) and he has struck out 11 batters in 10 innings. If he can stay healthy, DeSclafani is a critical piece of what is still a very questionable starting rotation in the future.

DeSclafani vs. Pirates

The Pirates acquired Joe Musgrove from the Astros in January as part of the Gerrit Cole trade, but he didn’t make his team debut until late May due to a shoulder strain. Thus far, the wait has been worth it for the Pirates. The right-hander has made quality starts in three of his four outings this season, and he’s walked only five batters in 25 innings — and four of those came in one game. Like Ivan Nova yesterday, Musgrove largely relies on pinpoint command to get batters out rather than overpowering them, but he does have better strikeout stuff than Nova thanks to a strong changeup-slider combination.



1. Scott Schebler (RF)
2. Jose Peraza (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Scooter Gennett (2B)
5. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
6. Adam Duvall (LF)
7. Curt Casali (C)
8. Anthony DeSclafani (P)
9. Billy Hamilton (CF)


1. Josh Harrison (2B)
2. Austin Meadows (CF)
3. Francisco Cervelli (C)
4. Colin Moran (3B)
5. Corey Dickerson (LF)
6. Josh Bell (1B)
7. Gregory Polanco (RF)
8. Jordy Mercer (SS)
9. Joe Musgrove (P)

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57 Responses

  1. WVRedlegs

    Happy Fathets Day to all the papas out there. Bri g home a win D-train.

  2. sezwhom

    I’ve never understood why a Manager doesn’t reward a young player after he does well in an AB with a start the next day. Dixon hits his first HR yesterday. We’re hopelessly out of it. What’s the harm? Put him in the lineup!

    Okay, I feel better now. Happy Father’s Day to all the big league Dads.

  3. tralfaz

    I see they’re running Billy Hamilton out there again today. Pathetic.

  4. Bill

    Because they need to keep playing the same players to bring up their value to trade.

    • Jack

      Exactly. We might be able to get a big bag of balls instead of a bucket.

      • Scott Gennett

        Perhaps a drum, after Hamilton’s catch

  5. Sliotar

    Wait….Peraza actually held on to a liner hit his way?

    (Just stirring the pot. I don’t know that he’s that much worse than most other SS.)

    • Seat101

      You are for absolutely no statistical evidence that he is bad with line drives. Yeah can you give them a hard time when he proved you wrong

    • Seat101

      Guy can’t win. No evidence to his fielding shortcomings yet he gets grief when he does well at it

  6. Jack

    Wow. I did not think Billy would have a chance with that liner.

  7. CP

    I cannot wait to see the statcast numbers for that catch by Billy. Amazing catch.

  8. Indy Red Man

    Billy with the basehit. I’m 51 and he’s the best defensive OFer I’ve ever seen….and its not close. His arm is great too and underrated. He really doesn’t have to hit much to be a decent player, but .190 doesn’t cut it. He strands way more guys as it is then runs he can save defensively.

    • Jack

      Yep. When he caught that liner , I thought if only he could hit.

    • VaRedsFan

      Exactly…2 years ago he batted .260/.320. That could play anywhere. But alas, he has regressed to his current state

      • Seat101

        He is 24 years old in the middle of a rebuilding year.

        Let’s get rid of the bum because by now he should be All Star caliber, right?

      • Jack

        We are talking about Hamilton. Try to keep up.

      • Seat101

        Sorry, Jack. I hit the wrong reply button. I was referring to the micturaton on Peraza Earlier in the day.

        And to top it all off Billy is really stinking it up on defense and offense today

  9. Seat101

    My point is that you guys are using an impossible standard of near perfection for Peraza

    He’s an above average major league baseball shortstop for the future. If the Reds find someone better to play that position I will not complain because I want the best player there

    so far, the empirical evidence is that the Reds have not found someone.


    • Indy Red Man

      Peraza’s ops is .660. The last 4 World Series teams were LA, Houston, Cubs, and Indians. You have Lindor, Corey Seager, Correa, and Addison Russell. Russell is the only one remotely close at .726. Peraza wouldn’t be so bad if the Reds outfield wasn’t so awful! Senzel is the 3rd pick in the draft and hitting over .400 in his last 10 games. Where would you play him? Would you trade Scooter so Peraza can keep playing? They could carry one of the two between Billy and Peraza but not both.

      • Seat101

        It’s a rebuilding year. How are those guys doing their first full year at shortstop?

      • George

        “Peraza wouldn’t be so bad if the Reds outfield wasn’t so awful!”
        How true it is!! Looks like Hamilton has earned another month or so with his play today. To listen to Reds tv guys Billy is wonderful and Bob C will totally agree. Adam D., needs to go to AAA. The true evaluation of a player is how many other teams would take him and start him. (Both are around .190 or so) With those 2 plus the pitchers spot The Reds only have 6 offensive AB’s every three innings, or the Reds only have 6 innings of offense vs the other team. That plus a starting staff that can only pitch 5 innings with an ERA over 5.9 that sets up for a season like 2018.

    • Hanawi

      Peraza is still relatively young, but I’m not sure what data you are relying on to say he will be an above average major league shortstop. In fact, because of his lack of plate discipline and power, there is a much higher probability that this is who is he going to be. And because of that, he needs to be at least Cozart, if not better, with the glove.

      • Sabr Chris

        Nothing in his approach to hitting or career major and minor league numbers suggests he’ll ever be an average hitter.

    • BigRedMike

      Peraza is among 26 qualified SS

      20th in Defensive Rating at 0.8
      23rd in WAR
      23rd in wRC+
      24th in BB%
      26th in ISO
      19th in OBP

      Lindor 24 years old
      Machado 26 years old
      Correra 23 years old

      Hope for improvement, but, Peraza does not really do anything above average

  10. Jack

    I’ve always been ok with the National League not having the DH. Not anymore. I’m sick of watching our pitchers attempt to be interested in hitting. None of them can bunt to save their lives and with two strikes they swing with no intentions of hitting the ball. If they can intentionally walk a better without pitching to them , then the Reds should just wave the at bat.

    • Indy Red Man

      Another reason to get Lorenzen in the rotation! I don’t know how many times I’ve seen the Cubs and Cards pitchers get big hits. The Cards lost last night but Carlos Martinez got a big rbi hit to break a 2-2 tie.

    • George

      Don’t disagree, great job future for Votto.

  11. Jack

    That’s the 2nd double this series? that I thought Votto got it all.

  12. VaRedsFan

    Said it here plenty. Votto is so much better when he commits to pulling the inside pitch, instead of inside outing them. Well done JV!

  13. Indy Red Man

    GABP really factors in big time with any discussion about Hamilton (Peraza and Tucker too offensively). If GABP was a huge park like Comerica in Detroit for example then other teams aren’t getting cheapie HRs and he can run down balls that other CFers can’t get to. GABP doesn’t play that way. It punishes the Reds for fielding 3 guys (Winker the 4th?) that can’t even hit 10 HRs when they play half their games in a bandbox.

  14. VaRedsFan

    Only 81 pitches for Disco, and he is pulled. I would say they are using the kid gloves with him, but Riggleman has a quick hook with all his starters.

    • Indy Red Man

      I think it was just Moran. He took Disco deep already and hit one yesterday too. Amir made him look silly though. I like the quick hooks from Riggleman, but his use of the pen has soured him on me. Put Peralta into a 1 run lead on Friday…failed. He put Brice into a 2 run game yesterday and then used Floro when we were down 6-1 or whatever? Thats not how its supposed to work? The guys with the far superior era’s are used in the close games! He did it in Arizona too…put Jackson Stephens into a 1 run game and then Lorenzen when we were down 5? Idiotic?

      • VaRedsFan

        Idiotic bullpen use…Seems to be etched in some type of scroll, in the clubhouse for the last 3 Reds managers.

  15. VaRedsFan

    More Loogy work for Amir. Hopefully, he will come back out in the 7th.

  16. Hanawi

    Duvall is almost at Peraza level slugging with no OBP. No idea how he keeps get run out there. Rather see Dixon.

  17. Jeff Morris

    Not sure why Riggleman pulled Disco, so soon…Also, Austin Brice needs to be sent down to the Minors to work on his stuff. Everytime he comes in, he give up hits and runs…

  18. msanmoore

    This is frustrating to watch. We still might win, but this is cutting it way too close.

    • Sliotar

      Assist to the third base coach there, keeping Reds in front.

      Bell is certainly no speedster and had Mercer/PH/Harrison as next 3 guys. Wild pitch could have even tied it.


  19. Jack

    Is this what Welsh meant when he said “Any day now it will start clicking for Billy”?

  20. VaRedsFan

    Schebler 2 run insurance blast!!!!!

    • msanmoore

      Love it. And heit ALL of that one.

  21. Sabr Chris

    The quick hook is one of the few areas the Reds are joining the rest of the league. Many teams are pulling their starters before the third time through the orders. Data shows the drop off in performance. It’s one of the factors behind Tampa’s relief starter experiment.

    • VaRedsFan

      True, but the best teams (Astros) have their starters go deeper into games. It’s the better of the 2 options

    • Indy Red Man

      Garrett did make Moran look silly there and preserved a 6-2 lead after 6. The problem was Amir started nibbling after whiffing the first 2 and walked Polanco. I would always stay with Amir over Hughes though….don’t care who’s hitting.

  22. msanmoore

    Happy for Billy today. But Thom is a complete idiot pushing for him to lead off again.

    Build his value a little and ship him to a big park. He’s not our future.

  23. Indy Red Man

    Can’t have your pen give up 4 runs in the 7th/8th, but I think we’ll pull it out. If they tied it up then Peraza’s brain cramp on the bases would’ve been a bigger issue. Atleast he didn’t daydream and made a good throw home to get Bell.

  24. Jeff Morris

    Watched the ESPN pitch zone on Iglesias pitching to Polanco. He had a 1-2 count on him. Pitch that was a Double by Polanco, was up in the zone. I have seen this with Iglesias before, ahead in the count, and with two strikes, a pitch up in the zone. Why not throw a slider down and away, see if the batter will chase? I know Iglesias has a great slider. Don’t understand when you are ahead in the count 0-2 or 1-2, why you throw a pitch up in the zone? Throw a slider down and away…something the hitter may chase, don’t throw a pitch up in the zone or anywhere near the zone! Got it?

    • VaRedsFan

      Polanco is a lefty….Iggy’s slider breaks down and in, which is right in the wheelhouse for Polanco.

  25. Jeff Reed

    It took awhile but a good win in a winning road trip. Plus a good outing for DeSclafani.

  26. Jeff Morris

    Maybe not a slider to Polanco, since he is a left handed hitter, I agree totally. But a sinker or something down and outside…away from Polanco. The point is to see if he will chase at a 1-2 count, not a pitch up in the zone.