The Cincinnati Reds (2-8) will try to avoid being swept in the city of brotherly love by the Philadelphia Phillies (5-5) tonight at 7:05 PM. The Reds bullpen spoiled a terrific start last night by Homer Bailey. The Reds have continued their worst start since 1995, when the Reds started 2-8 that season also. The Reds haven’t started 2-9 since 1993.

Starting Pitchers

Tonight’s starting pitching matchup will feature two pitchers that have never faced a single hitter on their opponent at the major league level. Luis Castillo‘s first two starts of 2018 have been pretty mediocre. Castillo has done a fairly good job throwing strikes, but he has missed his location at times and given up hard contact as a result.

Nick Pivetta is coming off a brilliant start against the Marlins: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 9 K. He was originally a fourth round draft pick of the Nationals. He was traded to the Phillies in 2015 for Jonathan Papelbon. Pivetta made 26 starts for the Phillies in 2017, and it didn’t go well as he has a 6.06 ERA.

Starting Lineups

The Bryan Price Experience 

Bryan Price made a couple really head-scratching moves (or non-moves) last night. The Reds were up 1-0 going into the bottom of the 7th. The Phillies had a left-handed batter due up, and it was the guy (Nick Williams) who hit the winning home run the night before. Price decided to go with Jared Hughes, a right-handed pitcher. Nick Williams of course doubled off the wall. Hughes was able to get two outs, and faced LHB J.P. Crawford. He is 2 for 26 in his career off left-handed pitchers, and had a .598 OPS vs LHP in the minors last season. Price stuck with Hughes despite having two lefties in his bullpen. Crawford of course singled to tie the game.

Possibly even worse than pitching Hughes in the 7th inning, Price elected to go with Tanner Rainey in the 8th inning of a 1-1 game against the top of the Phillies lineup. It was the MLB debut for Rainey. He would end up giving up a grand slam. Meanwhile, Raisel Iglesias has thrown a grand total of 11 pitches over the last 7 days, and hasn’t pitched since Saturday. Price has previously gone out of his way to say that he would be less conventional with his bullpen management, and promised to use Iglesias creatively and for multiple innings at times. If Bryan Price wants to consistently go down without using his best reliever, his job can go down too.

Conclusion

It hasn’t been pleasant times for Reds country over the first two weeks of the baseball season. Many of the fans (myself included) who have been very patient during this long rebuild are beginning to lose patience, especially with Bryan Price. We all know the roster is not exactly where the Reds would like it with DeSclafani, Finnegan, Hernandez, Lorenzen, and Suarez all on the DL, but the Reds do have enough talent not to be 2-8. This train needs to start rolling in the right direction soon. Go Reds!

246 Responses

  1. lost11found

    Generally I am fine with the lineups and choices made by Price this year.

    Winker has been in the starting 9 most of the time and leading off but for a couple of games. Hamilton likewise has been 8/9 mostly. Ervin’s gotten some PT and blandino started last night. Peraza is being given every chance to show what he can or can’t do and that’s on point as well.

    Was glad to see him use Rainey last night. Find out what the kid can do. got two fairly quick outs then the wheels fell off. I’d be okay with going right back to him tonight to see how he well he bounces back.

    If a pitcher cant learn from a bad outing and move on….. Thats good to know as well.

    • Scott C.

      That is a shortsighted view. Sorry but the job of the manager is to but the young pitchers (particularly) in a position to success. Price failed miserably st that with Stephenson and Reed and again last night. He refused to play young position players and throws young pitchers to the wolves.

  2. Eric the Red

    Assuming they’ll soon do something to try and signal “we know we have to change something” to the ticket buying masses, would you prefer 1) Call up Senzel to play 3B with Suarez out, or 2) Fire Price? I’m for the second option, as much because I want Senzel working on playing his future ML position–2B, or maybe SS–in AAA as much as because I’m done with Price.

    • Keith

      I also don’t see any point in Senzel playing 3B for a month — it’s going to be hard to send him down to work on 2B or SS if he tears the cover off the ball for the Reds, and then he’s working on it at the major league level (not that his defense will hurt us in the playoff hunt, unfortunately).

      I’d like to see Price go, but not if Riggleman is the next man up. Don’t think he’ll be much of an improvement.

    • CI3J

      Why not both? Let Senzel play 3B, move Suarez back to SS. And yes, fire Price.

    • Shchi Cossack

      Please do not promote Senzel until he has demonstrated the ability to hit at AAA. I fully expect Senzel will be able to hit at the MLB level, but the Reds already have two players in the starting lineup who never demonstrated the ability to hit at the AAA level and were promoted to the MLB level anyway. Why do it again? Three wrongs don’t make a right, or something like that anyway.

      • bouwills

        I couldn’t agree more. No need to rush Nick. It’s just ludicrous to think he can make the difference for this team- this year.

      • Seat101

        I do not comprehend how or why anyone disagrees with you!

  3. Bill

    Let’s not play Blandino because he struck out twice, didn’t get a hit & had an error. And yes, he’s only 25.

    • Shchi Cossack

      Blandino is not a particularly good defensive 3B or SS, but neither is Gosselin. Of course Pwennington can’t hit. Your point about playing Gosselin and Pennington rather than playing Blandino is simply absurd. Blandino might have a role, possibly a significant role, on the next competitive Reds team. Gosselin and Pennington shouldn’t even have a role on a non-competitive Reds team. Nor should they be utilizing a 40-man roster spot on a non-competitive Reds team. The first bizaro decision is completely on Price. The second bizaro decision is completely on Williams. With those management options and decisions, the Reds ability to compete is darned if they do and darned if they don’t.

      • Tom Diesman

        First time I’ve ever seen Blandino’s play at 3rd questioned. I’ve always heard he was a plus defender at 2B, average at 3rd, and below average at SS.

      • Bill

        My idea was that’s the way Price thinks, I think Blandino should be playing.

  4. Indy Red Man

    Actually Nick it was 2-1 Phils in the bottom of the 8th, but the Bryan Price Experience is similar to the John Denver Experience on South Park. Its not good. Hughes threw 25 pitches the night before and wasn’t sharp. Anyone could see it coming….same with a rookie making his first appearance in a 1 run game vs the top of their lineup.

    Oh well? They’re tired of picking 2nd. They want to take a real shot at the first pick next year evidently?

  5. Shchi Cossack

    With Votto & Duval MIA since the beginning of the regular season, Gennett MIA since April 1st, Hamilton & Peraza taking up two starting roster spots and Suarez & Schebler in the DL after being HBP, the Reds simply don’t have the ability to field a competitive offense right now. A lineup with more holes than weapons is doomed to failure. After a 2-8 start, the Reds play 10 of the next 11 games against NLCD opponents. They could easily be more than 10 games under .500 before the end of April, only 1/6th of the way through the season.

    While the blame for such a horrendous start shouldn’t be leveled squarely on Price, Price certainly bears more than his share of the responsibility. After 3 disasterous seasons as manager and a historically bad start to the season, I really see no way Price survives as manager.

  6. bouwills

    If you fire Price, Williams & Castelleni will be even more exposed to criticism. It’s not going to happen unless Reds can find another “patsy”.

  7. Eric the Red

    I have a feeling tonight Castillo will pitch a strong game. Go Reds!

    • jazzmanbbfan

      I’m half-listening on the radio and I’m thinking so far, not so much.

  8. Jim Walker

    It is the way they’ve mishandled the pitching both strategically (front office) and tactically (in game) which really has me at wits end with the org.

    It started by writing in 2 guys who finished the 2017 season on long DL stints into the rotation before spring training began and has gone down hill from there. Recall that one of these 2 hadn’t thrown a competitive pitch since 2016 when he had missed the first half of the season due to issues which arose in the 2016 spring camp. Following on, the potential starter who arguably had the best spring is (apparently) consigned to the pen because that too had been predetermined before camp. From the pen, he is seldom used; and, when he is used, it is in low leverage situations. The whole Gallardo situation. Last night, the rookie debuting in a high leverage late game situation.

    And we’ve seen variations of the same old same old stuff over and over for what 3, or is it 4 years now?

  9. Seat101

    I believe Peraza was bunting for a hit

  10. Preach

    It’s a shame when your 2 hole batter sac binds in the first inning, and I’m not sure it was a stupid move. That’s where we are

    • Jack

      No it’s a shame we get runners in scoring position with no outs game after game and we can’t score.

    • BigRedMike

      Is there any confirmation that Peraza’s bunt was a sacrifice? If it was, Price should be fired before the game ends.

  11. Sliotar

    Chris Welsh playing dumb intentionally. Not a good look.

    He seems like a gracious man, but he should have some “stones” and answer his own question, about for whom the service time shenanigans benefit.

    Afraid to say it gives another year of control to the team.

    “Maybe Dick Williams can answer that.” Weak.

  12. earmbrister

    Heckuva catch by Billy. Saved what was a sure homer.

  13. Indy Red Man

    Grooves an 0-2 pitch to a guy hitting .077 right after a balk. Struggling hitter so give him a chance or 2 to get himself out? Not only is Price an idiot but the overall lack of baseball IQ on this team is astounding?
    Castillo just giving up rockets this year. He may need to go back down?

    • Tom Diesman

      He’s looking a lot more like our struggling SP prospects than an ace in the making this year. He may just end up getting himself some AAA time yet. R. Stephenson looking really good through 5 tonight for Louisville ( 5 IP 2 H 1 R 2 BB 7 SO).

    • LL Cool

      He was traded 3 times for a reason. He’s good but you don’t trade a good young pitcher 3 times

  14. Scotly50

    Castillo throws a belt-high fastball on a 0-2 count.

  15. NYRedsfan1

    Nothing like grooving an 0-2 fastball to the number 9 hitter

  16. Den

    So we fire the manager because hitters are not hitting and pitchers not pitching well but let’s blame Price. Hopefully our magt team is a bit more rational.

    • Indy Red Man

      Yeah…he deserves a ton of slack because they’ve been so good the last 3 years. This is just an unusual blip compared to all the winning Price has accomplished! San Diego’s best hitter has been on the DL and they have more wins. They had zero talent last year and finished with 3 more wins. Thats in a division with 3 playoff teams too.

    • Eric the Red

      Among other things, it’s his job to get the players ready for the season. And put them in positions to succeed– like not batting Hamilton leadoff against LHP, or not intentionally loading the bases for a guy who is making his Big League debut and who has control issues.

      • Den

        So the players, like those making 200+ million are not accountable? Sorry but there is far more going on in making out a roster then anyone here has any clue. Has Price made mistakes, sure no manager is perfect, but I’m sorry with the limited talent on this roster, a continuous injury bug and no involvement by ownership to improve the roster outside of building through the draft, to expect winning is just laughable.

    • J

      If a manager can’t be fired for a team’s horrible performance on the field, what would ever be a legitimate reason to fire a manager? Beating up a ball boy? Stealing team property? Yelling obscenities at reporters for several minutes because someone asked a legitimate baseball question? (Oh, wait. Ignore that last one.)

      • Den

        If said manager had talent and wasn’t winning then yes you make a change. Outside of Votto, who hurts this team in other ways then his hitting what great talent does this franchise really have?

    • CI3J

      Stop with the gaslighting. There are plenty of legit reasons to fire Price, and if you aren’t aware of them, you haven’t been paying attention.

      • Den

        It appears that mangt doesn’t see them either.

    • da bear

      Fire the manager because he’s making suboptimal decisions time and time again. Fire Price also because he has shown little aptitude for helping develop young pitchers.

      Look for new outfielders (other than Winker) because they’ve played below average when it counts.
      Utilize Billy Hamilton in a manner that magnifies his assets – as a pinch runner, base stealing threat as much as possible, leading to a defensive sub when pinch running hasn’t been called for.

      Move Votto out of the 3 spot and into leadoff or second until he finds (1) power and (2) the ability to hit with runners on base. He’s stunk thus far just as he stunk for the first two months of 2016.

      Time to kick Peraza into finding plate discipline – either he averages 3 or 4 BB’s per week or send him down to the minors until he learns to do so. He bats eighth as long as BH continues to get on base more frequently. Once Schebler returns bat Schebler second, keep him out of run producing spots because he shows little signs of hitting well with RISP.

  17. Preach

    I really like this Pivetta. His delivery is quick and compact, and he has a nasty curve.

  18. Eric the Red

    This catcher isn’t good enough to explain how they’re getting so many extra strikes called in this series.

  19. CI3J

    Remind me, have the Reds scored in the 1st inning yet this season? I remember seeing a stat that they were the only MLB team to have not done so yet this season. Is that still true?

  20. Scotly50

    We seem to make opposing pitchers look good.

  21. CI3J

    Nice AB by Peraza. Got down 0-1, worked it to 3-1, then got his pitch to hit for a double.

    This is what we were seeing out of him in the second half last season. Hope he can do this more often.

  22. VaRedsFan

    Raise your hand if you had Peraza getting an XBH before Votto…2 weeks into the season

  23. VaRedsFan

    Their catcher is snapping the glove into the strike zone on every close pitch. …and stealing a few strikes too…

  24. Indy Red Man

    Peraza seems to have a nice level swing going if he can just recognize the strike zone better and quit getting himself out.

    • VaRedsFan

      If he would commit to pulling the ball, instead flipping the ball to right…and of course…swing at strikes.

  25. VaRedsFan

    So nice to see the boys get a runner home from 3rd with less than 2 out. thank you Ervin

    • Eric the Red

      Let’s not forget Mesoraco driving the ball deep enough to advance the runners and take away the DP possibility.

  26. Preach

    2 on and no outs and we pushed one across. Progress!!!

  27. Eric the Red

    Serious question: have we had a single inning this year where we scored more than 1 run without a HR?

  28. Indy Red Man

    An offensive outburst:) Hey….a crooked number anytime is good! Now we need a few shutdown innings…seems like they immediately give back any momentum they get so far.

    • vegastypo

      I’m sure there’s a stat for that somewhere. Would be interesting to see it. (And Castillo keeps it from happening this time!)

  29. citizen54

    Robert Stephenson with a good game. 7 IP 0 ER 10K 3 BB.

      • citizen54

        His second. First game was pretty bad.

    • Indy Red Man

      Who can tell with our guys? BobSteve was good in the 2nd half last year but was terrible this spring. Reed is the only one that should be definitely passed by imo. I still think Lorenzen could be a decent to good starter. He throws groundballs and keeps the ball in the park for the most part. Finnegan iffy? If nothing else we should find out this year.

  30. Indy Red Man

    Castillo with the HRs??? He came out 98-100 mph in Arizona last year and was right around 98…now its 95 most of the time? Troubling because its very straight and his 3rd pitch is inconsistent

    • citizen54

      It’s still early in the season. Velocity usually ticks up as the weather gets warmer.

  31. VaRedsFan

    A wallscraper be Hernandez……
    The back wall of the stadium that is

  32. vegastypo

    Peraza had guts to take that 2-2 pitch, and then rips a single through the middle !!

  33. Preach

    Thom! Getting on Peraza about how it looks too obvious he’s not going to run…..and he steals a base on that very pitch. I love it.

    • BigRedMike

      For as much baseball Thom has watched in his life, he certainly does not seem to have a clue on how it is played. The game gets in the way of his stories and outrage on menial topics

      • vegastypo

        Learned it from his dad. In years past. Marty used to complain about people “losing their minds” if they pointed out that the radio crew forgot to give the answer to the Scoreboard Stumper. Well, OK, but for the last few days, he has been “losing his mind” about a few trivia questions that gave the wrong answer. Enough, already.

  34. vegastypo

    Why send the runner there? With nobody out???? Good Lord. This team can’t do anything right,

    • J

      Nobody out and your 4-5-6 hitters due up. Unbelievable. This is supposed to be a major league team.

    • J

      This has to be the most intellectually lazy team I’ve ever followed in my life.

      • vegastypo

        It’s like nobody’s paying attention. Hatcher had no other responsibilities on that play.

  35. Indy Red Man

    Whyyyyyy? Why do the Reds make stupid decisions every frigging game? No reason to chance it there? 1st/3rd and nobody out is fine

  36. J

    I don’t really follow any other teams, but it’s hard for me to imagine any other major league team could possibly have a worse grasp of basic baseball strategy than this one.

  37. BigRedMike

    The Reds organization cannot do anything right. Inept is the standard

  38. Jeff Reed

    What’s with the third base coach. Votto’s hit is one bounce to the left fielder and there are no outs with the cleanup hitter coming up. How about thinking ahead Terrible baseball.

  39. Broseph

    Two outs, sure go for home. Anything less than one, why send the runner? Little league coaches know this basic fact. At some point, you have to have faith in hitters to put the ball in play to score a guy from third with 0 outs.

    • Indy Red Man

      If you have Billy or the pitch on deck then maybe send him with 1 out, but your 4th-5th hitters coming up? Thats just stupid.

      Now outhomered 17-7 on the season and Suarez/Schebler have 3 of them.

  40. Sliotar

    Scooter and Mesoraco isn’t much of a scary combo to follow Votto and try and sequence a big inning, that’s for sure.

    Any other team would spend the $ to get a follow-up guy or two, even a vet, because of the crooked number potential.

    Twice tonight, Votto has had hits to set up a big inning, yet the Reds still trail.

    It might explain why Billy Hatcher presses, like sending Hamilton from 2nd on a wild pitch last night and Peraza with no outs tonight.

    • J

      There’s no justification for Peraza running. None. The run scores if Scooter hits into a double play. It scores on a medium deep fly ball. He’s not a legitimate cleanup hitter, but you’ve got to assume he can at least put it in play if that’s all he’s trying to do.

  41. Preach

    Peraza is also playing good D at the moment. I could get used to this

  42. Indy Red Man

    Peraza didn’t bother sliding either? The ball beat him but the guy had to wheel around and get the tag down without blocking the plate.

  43. Indy Red Man

    Problem with Peraza is that even if he hits .290 or .300…his obp will be .325 or something? Its mostly all singles with an occasional double…maybe 5-6 HRs if he plays nearly every day.

    Kingery and Hernandez have already homered in this series. Middle infielders hit the ball out in todays game. Everyone hits the ball out in todays game….except Billy and Jose.

  44. VaRedsFan

    Garrett warming.
    I guess they weren’t saving him for the next start from the 5th slot….which makes last night’s decision even more maddening.

  45. vegastypo

    Whoa, a Garrett sighting in a close game? Everybody else must be unavailable.

  46. J

    I had assumed it would at least take several months for Price to be fired, but I guess if the team loses 27 of the first 30, that might start to raise some eyebrows.

    • vegastypo

      I was thinking the same thing. Said on a thread here awhile back that I thought he was safe until August or September, but given that the front office has said they expect progress toward competing this year (feel free to roll your eyes here), and even Votto was talking about having to end this culture of losing, I now wonder if Price will make it to June 1 unless some really good things start to happen.

  47. vegastypo

    Winker didn’t get much of a jump on that ball, and wow is he ever slow, no make-up speed there.

    • VaRedsFan

      It HAS to be quicksand out there…maybe?

  48. J

    I just can’t get over that Peraza thing. Cleanup hitter due up, nobody out, and the potential tying run is thrown out by several feet. Every casual fan knows this can’t be allowed to happen, but somehow this coaching staff allows it to happen. There seem to be no standards or expectations at all. Is this actually a for-profit business, or some sort of charity thing?

    • vegastypo

      I suspect they’re making plenty of money. That’s kinda the problem, I think. It’s either make money or put more money into the roster, and they surely aren’t doing the latter of those two things. Suarez is about the only exception.

      • J

        Maybe, but I’m pretty sure the teams at the top of the standings generally make a lot more money than those perpetually at the bottom…

  49. HJ

    Winker can not cover LF. Are you kidding me?

  50. Indy Red Man

    Not that bad of a game from Castillo….0-2 beef ball for a 2 run HR to a guy hitting .077 or we’re up a run.

    The other Herrera doing well for Louisville….CF Rosell Herrera! 3 hits tonite (.350). He’s only 25 and a switch hitter with a .347 career obp. He should probably get a shot this year too. Why not?

  51. Preach

    Did Matt Jenkins seem a little animated on that mound visit, or is that just me?

  52. VaRedsFan

    Garrett jams up the lefty Crawford. Wonder how that would have played last night.

  53. Indy Red Man

    Amir Garrett…thats now 6 ip with 3 hits, 1 walk, 0 era, 7 ks

    But we don’t need that in our rock solid rotation.

    • Jack

      There is no reason why Finnegan gets the spot over him. It’s Like Price doesn’t want to hurt certain players feelings.

  54. BigRedMike

    The Reds performance will improve once Votto starts hitting

  55. Sliotar

    If Garrett’s stuff doesn’t play through the lineup 2 times (or 3), then he could be developed into the future Andrew Miller of the Reds.

    Which can be a devastating weapon in the hands of a good manager. Or, so it seems with other teams.

    • BigRedMike

      That is not a bad idea. He could be effective going 2-3 innings multiple times a week.

  56. VaRedsFan

    My kingdom for a 2 run homer when trailing by 1. .

  57. Tom Diesman

    Castillo pulled after just 89 pitches. He should have went back out for the 7th, then Price could have used Garrett for the 8th and Iglesias for the 9th. Your bullpen will always be tired if you continually do not let them pitch past 100 pitches. I have no sympathy for Price when he whines that his bullpen is spent. Good pitching coach my rear. He can’t manage a pitching staff.

  58. Seat101

    Whomever complained that Peraza would have safe if had tried to slide is …..wrong. To put it nicely.

    • Indy Red Man

      Thanks for putting it nicely for me. Let me put it nicely for you. You know nothing about baseball. You come on here when a team has picked 2nd every draft and snipe at people for being irritated with the Reds. When you come to home plate then you slide. Period! It looked like the guy was actually blocking the plate too…if you slide and he blocked it illegally then they give it to you. I played the game. I’m guessing you played Centipede or something.

  59. Seat101

    Oh,yeah. Garrett was sick, couldn’t pitch.

  60. Preach

    I guess the screen is part of the wall there.

  61. VaRedsFan

    of course that throw from LF is 30 feet off line.

  62. Preach

    I prefer a pitcher to run here. Bench is short enough

  63. Joel Herzig

    I really wish Billy Hamilton were on the bench for pinch running situations. I also wish that pinch runner could be a designated position on the team without losing a roster spot.

  64. BigRedMike

    Good to see Ervin provide a positive outcome

  65. Sliotar

    Iglesias only threw 16 pitches. He’s got the ninth.

  66. Jack

    Ervin needs to sit for a couple of games. Driving in 2 runs. Who does he think he is?

  67. Preach

    I hate using a pinch hitter to bunt. Might as well use the pitcher

  68. Aaron Bradley

    Unloaded the bench going for the W.

    • Jack

      Pennington should have leaned into that first pitch. Anyway on.

      • VaRedsFan

        Doesn’t anyone watch the Bad News Bears?

  69. Aaron Bradley

    If the Goose can’t be counted on for a sac bunt he probably doesn’t belong on the roster. Could have saved Barnhart to hit for Pennington.

  70. BigRedMike

    Hamilton is laughable at the plate. No clue

  71. Aaron Bradley

    Jesus. Everything is an uphill battle.

  72. jtrum

    I have a feeling people will be asking why to recent activity in this game, to that end, I say: Price.

  73. Joel Herzig

    How does Billy bail out on a pitch on the inside corner? Lean in, man. He should get a salary bonus for every times he gets plunked.

  74. TurboBuckeye

    Terrible move with the sac bunt given who was due up!

  75. J

    Leave it to Price to figure out just exactly the right combination of moves to minimize the chances of scoring. Everything was going fine until he started using “strategy.”‘

    • vicferrari

      Hey he is big league manager, he knows what he is doing or else why would a Major League team pay him to make decisions that the common fan cannot understand?

  76. redsfaned

    STUPID,STUPID,STUPID,STUPID,STUPID,STUPID,
    FIRE PRICE NOW.
    WHO SENDS A GOOD HITTER UP TO BUNT SO THAT 2 OF YOUR WORST HITTERS CAN FOLLOW UP WITH STRIKEOUTS?
    THIS TEAM IS BEING LED BY THE BRAINLESS.
    REPEAT;;;STUPID,;;;FIRE PRICE NOW.

  77. Joel Herzig

    Joey Votto is not only the Reds best hitter but also the funniest guy on the team.

    • Indy Red Man

      I agree, but that is Philly fan. I would stay away from the stands completely. He could get hit a full can of something or projective vomiting….its all in play with Philly fan.

      • Indy Red Man

        Projectile…not sure what projective is but its probably gross too:)

  78. Preach

    But think of the joy watching the starting catcher running down to first on a sac bunt

  79. Preach

    Extra innings, no extra players. Interesting

    • Preach

      Maybe they should try batting that way

  80. TurboBuckeye

    Iglesias looking flat out sick

  81. Mark

    Unreal really you don’t bunt there with freakin Pennington and Hamilton behind tucker

  82. Sliotar

    So many chances for the Reds to bust this game open.

    Most of the teams in MLB would have take Castillo’s start and Votto’s set-up hits and already turned them into a winner.

    Price’s worst nightmare coming to life…extra innings game with his closer already used up.

      • Preach

        They are, but I would have thought a starter would have been a better option to hit

      • vegastypo

        Agreed, but they wouldn’t even use a starter to bunt. I have no idea what, if anything, is going through Price’s mind.

  83. Jack

    Would have been nice to have Lorenzen batting here.

  84. Indy Red Man

    Pennington career .244 hitter with 36 total Hrs in 10 seasons. What would make Dick Williams say “I gotta get this guy”. Why? If you think Blandino is worse then why not release him? He’s a 1st rounder!

    Steve Selsky is back at Lville. He can hit somewhat. Elizande or whatever his name is….he’s much much better then Pennington. Why do you need 2 backup scrub infielders anyway?

    • Jack

      Especially Williams saying he is a numbers guy. Well the numbers on Pennington and Goose are saying don’t bother signing them. Makes me wonder if Williams is just a puppet.

  85. Preach

    The legend almost grew exponentially right there

  86. earmbrister

    Oh Man, what a catch. We was robbed.

  87. VaRedsFan

    Scooter robbed of a dinger 410 feet away. No chance we win this one. Anaconda sized snake bitten

    • Indy Red Man

      By Herrera of all people too….never played CF that I know of?

    • VaRedsFan

      It was Fisher against the Phillies too. I watched all 17 of those agonizing innings

  88. Preach

    I think Herrera just jumped and got lucky. Doesn’t look like he tracked it

  89. Preach

    I’m so confused on the way we have used personnel tonight

  90. Sliotar

    Yeah, win or lose, Price showed tonight he was pressing, feeling the hot seat.

    Also, his starting lineup just isn’t that good right now. Which certainly doesn’t help.

  91. Seat101

    You heard it here first. Brian Price will fired tomorrow.

    • Indy Red Man

      You’re my bud now….let me buy you whatever you like:) Of course if Casey Stengel rose from the grave and brought Babe Ruth with him…its not making this team a good one.

      • Phil

        Casey won 40 games with the ’62 Mets
        Can the Reds go 38 and 113? The way this team looks………..

  92. Indy Red Man

    0-2 and walks the winning run into scoring position? I was wrong about Peralta having a shot at the rotation. Yeah…he has 3 plus pitches but his control is all over the place? This is the kind of game they’ve been giving away too?

  93. Sliotar

    Hughes for the third straight night.

  94. Preach

    How many arms do we have left in the pen after This? Have to be thin there too

  95. VaRedsFan

    Rainey and Weiss still down there too….like i said…we’re good

  96. Preach

    So, basically, 10th inning and we have used EVERYBODY.

  97. earmbrister

    Good job by Hughes. He looks like a pro out there.

  98. Indy Red Man

    Iggy, Peralta, and Garrett combined = 1 er in 17 innings. Hughes was a decent signing. I thought Lorenzen could possibly regain what he was in 2016. That would be a good bullpen. They need Garrett in the rotation though? He’s got as high a ceiling as any of their guys.

  99. Preach

    Even Thom has noticed the issues Price has had tonight.

  100. Preach

    Good AB by Ervin…..probably won’t see him for another week

  101. Seat101

    Remember. I called it. Price is fired tomorrow

    • RedInIND

      I’ll get a good night’s sleep with that thought.

  102. Tom Diesman

    Sweet, I hope Quackenbush can hold them. Cause he’s due up 3rd next inning and that could be fun.

  103. Preach

    Ok…..i don’t understand either one if these managers tonight.

    • VaRedsFan

      Pitching change to face a pitcher. The worst move of all time

  104. Tom Diesman

    Wow, pinch hitter Tyler Mahle scared them into a pitching change. Really?

    • vegastypo

      I’m not opposed to hearing about analytics, but I wonder which data Gabe Kapler relied on for that pitching change?

    • Preach

      “You won’t outdo me, Bryan Price.”

  105. Sliotar

    Thom is very fortunate he broadcasts for a small market team that has been a loser for most of the last 20 years.

    He just can’t help himself, taking an opinion and turning it into moralizing and preachiness. Every single time.

    That “only people watching are those without a job” would certainly not go unnoticed in the New York media, if he was doing Mets or Yankees games.

    One of these days, he will go too far. And the Reds will be forced to do something about him.

      • Sliotar

        Oh, it’s a classic rant, for sure.

        Times are different now, for better or worse.

        The Reds, who have never had greater than 75% capacity in GABP in any one season, don’t need a team broadcaster alienating those sticking around for extra-inning games.

      • Preach

        Interesting enough, the top comment on the You Tube video is “The Bryan Price tirade brought me here.”

    • RedInIND

      Thank you. I’ve been wanting to post something along these lines, too.
      Would be nice if SEAT101 could get the same scoop on Thom as he did on Price.

      • Phil

        This above post was to go under Thom Brenneman Sliotar post.

  106. Indy Red Man

    I love the idea of putting men on 1st/2nd to start extra innings! That would be fun!! Baseball needs more fun and excitement. For Reds fans…it would introduce countless new ways for Price to blow games and keep us talking about it all week!

  107. Indy Red Man

    Scooter? Omg? I thought the stuff about his poor defense was overblown but he has been horrific this year? They won’t survive that. Not this team.

    • jazzmanbbfan

      It was not overblown. He’s a horrible fielder and was before he came to the Reds.

  108. J

    There was actually a logic to that pitching change. Make absolutely sure you don’t face Votto and you’ll probably win in the bottom of the inning.

    • Phil

      Oh yeah, we can’t allow another Votto single.

  109. VaRedsFan

    Oh Scooter…if only there was a DH in the NL

  110. Indy Red Man

    Tucker made a terrible throw too…he had him at 2nd with a good throw. Typical…find a way to lose

  111. Jack

    Brice is trying his best to wild pitch this game to a close.

    • Preach

      And they are almost on the warning track

  112. Preach

    They are going to confuse themselves on a ground ball

  113. Dave Roemerman

    This extra innings confusion? Where does the 5th infielder play? Why are Winker and Ervin so deep? This is why Price needs to go. 100% on the manager…

    • Indy Red Man

      It was a little on Scooter there..like 80%. If they had a real hitter on the bench besides Pennington then they win it in the 9th

    • Dave Roemerman

      The announcers (think it was Brantley) who mentioned he’d never seen a game where one team was entirely out of bench players after 9 and the other team had only used one.

      Our players are underperforming, but our manager is consistently one-upping them. I like the guy and have been a past supporter, especially when we ran out a mediocre AAA team, but this year has been awful, almost nightly.

    • Jeff Reed

      I guess Price felt the rifle arms of Winker and Ervin would nail the possible winning runner at home plate. And as commented below, why not load the bases with a possible force out at home plate. Of course this regards baseball strategy which is in short supply with the current Reds.

  114. Jack

    You can’t hide bad defense. The other team will find you at some point.

  115. Indy Red Man

    Votto and Homer could buy up the neighborhoods of all the Miami players combined….and they have 3 wins. Oh boy

  116. Joel Herzig

    The Timberwolves-Nuggets game started after 8pm, went to overtime and still finished before the Phillies-Reds game which started at 7:05pm and went 12 innings.

  117. VaRedsFan

    Why didnt they walk the bases loaded…force out at home?

  118. Ben

    I could tell from the podcast over the winter and spring training that the Reds were going to suck this year, probably worse than last year. But i had no idea.

  119. muttonlettucetomato

    How long can the Reds organization be happy with the status quo? Good gosh, is not fun and it’s only a couple weeks into the season.

    • Indy Red Man

      This weekend they’ll have like 20,000 on Sat and 9k will be Card fans. Good times