After 4.0 innings of stellar relief work, Kevin Quackenbush put a fastball on a tee for Nick Williams to break the 5-5 deadlock. I truly cannot be that upset because Reds win this evening would’ve been stealing a victory from the jaws of defeat. No truly, the Reds did not deserve to win today.

But Hunter Greene made his 2018 debut!!!! And struck out 8!!! In only 3.0 innings!!! The future is bright!!!

Cincinnati Reds 5 | Philadelphia Phillies 6 | Philly Fans 0

The Good

— Tucker Barnhart launched a dinger into the left field stands to tie the game in the top of the third. Cody Reed immediately gave that lead up because of course he did. Barnhart also worked a full count, seven pitch walk to load the bases in the top of the seventh. Phil Ervin immediately squibbed an infield pop-up to end the rally, but it was a fantastic at-bat by Barnhart regardless.

— Joey Votto had 2 hits, continuing the Joey-Votto-regresses-to-his-absurdly-high-mean-of-hitting-better-than-almost-anyone trend. Go Joey.

— Billy Hamilton made a tie-saving catch in center in the bottom of the seventh. I don’t have the expertise to say other center fielders wouldn’t have gotten there, but other center fielders wouldn’t have gotten there.

The Bad

— Basically everything else.

— Cody Reed looked whatever the opposite of good is…what’s that word? Bad. Cody Reed looked bad. Five runs and two home runs in 3.0 innings of work isn’t the nuclear situation but also isn’t promising. He left a pitch over the middle of the plate to Rhys Hoskins of all people! 73 pitches through only 3.0 innings does not make an effective pitcher nor does it bode well for the future.

— Billy Hamilton made a bonehead decision trying to go home from second on a wild pitch, which Chris Welsh tried to justify by saying it’s cold and you never know what’s going to happen. But still, he’s not THAT fast.

— Adam Duvall worked a full count right before Tucker Barnhart came to the plate, but instead of earning a walk, he struck out. I can’t wholly fault him because it was a perfectly placed pitch, but Duvall has been just plain bad this year.

Not So Random thoughts

Given the Reed and Finnegan performances today, I’m all abroad the “Give Amir Garrett the next spot start” train. Who’s with me?

Happy Hunter Greene Day!!!!!

Look deep into those eyes. That’s the look of a future Cincinnati Reds’ Opening Day starter. Or the Reds’ version of Bryce Harper. Or all of the above. I’m really trying to not use exclamation points but boy oh boy are we in for a treat.

Joey Votto is the only Redeeming Aspect of the Current Reds

I mean seriously, just look at this man.

We don’t deserve him.

63 Responses

  1. Nathan

    The one silver lining for reed tonight was only one walk tonight. He seems to have an issue leaving pitches over the plate to right handlers. Middle infield lacks defense and hitting from the SS position. Hope Blandino gets the start tomorrow.

  2. bmblue

    The reds are so screwed. This entire rebuild hangs on Senzel and Suarez, and it needs to get going considering Votto’s age. Joey wont ever be a hole, but they cant count on a 38 year old to churn out MVP type seasons that teams competing for the World Series need.

    Other rebuilding franchises at the same stage have cornerstone type players littered throughout the lineup and AAA. We have one guy. What if Nick Senzel gets hurt?

    WJ botched this so badly. They got nothing more than depth pieces for Aroldis Champman, Johnny Cueto, Todd Frazier, Jay Bruce, Mike Leake, Brandon Phillips, and Zack Cozart all combined together. Bench players and bullpen pieces. That’s it. That is hall of fame level incompetency.

    • Michael E

      Yes, that phrase STILL haunts me “we’re looking for MLB ready players”. Walt wasn’t looking for upside or youthful talent, he just wanted AAA journeymen that could pass as MLB starters the day of the trade. The worst thing you can do as a GM is be conservative (well, maybe being clueless like Bowden and the ghostly scouting staff of Schott), and we got a GM that seemed to hate any unknown. He’d rather have two mediocre over-aged AAA players that he knows are mediocre than one 19 year old with huge upside that might never be MLB ready (risk).

      We did blow it, many times.

      Not trading Frazier after the all-star game was beyond stupid. Anyone with a brain knew he’d never have more value as he was a career .245 hitter that loved to K and hit some HRs.

      Trading Chapman at the worst possible time, all-time low value, though i am all but certain this was pushed by dimwitted Castellini who didn’t want to offend the 3 fans scattered throughout Ohio that might not come to a game if Chapman the garage destroyer ever played for the Reds again. Seriously, no one cares about that crap if you play winning baseball and entertain, no one (well some claim to, but they’ll be one of the first to take a free ticket to the game if the Reds are in first place).

      the others, well, the return was again more about quantity over quality and age (MLB ready). I wasn’t quite in love with Peraza, but I thought he had some potential given his putting balls in play and size (he isn’t small, though not big either), but he has been worse than disappointing, even given the analysis by many baseball people that stated Peraza was nothing more than a future utility player.

      Sad, we have drafted okay that past couple of years, but we really need to hit on some 5th, 11th, 17th round picks here and there, as well as taking BPA (best prospect available) in rounds 1, 2 and 3. I was glad they took Greene last year. Reds of the past 35 years would have passed on Greene for some 20 HR hitter that K’d every other at bat or some pitcher that threw hard, but had only one pitch and had a lowly 2/1 K/BB ration in high school. Taking Greene with his mega-upside was refreshing, even if he doesn’t make it big. I am wondering if Gore (Padres) wasn’t the true better talent (even better than Greene), but at least we grabbed one of the top two high school SPs in the draft.

      • James H.

        Couldn’t agree more. I deleted my diatribe to go along with it. The team’s getting kicked for past and current discretions; rightfully so, considering what’s being fielded lately and the direction being forecast by Price.

    • Wesley Jenkins

      I read WJ and was like wait did I do and then I realized you meant Jocketty and I was back on board

  3. Indy Red Man

    Atleast Cozart is having fun!! Getting to be part of the Ohtani experience! I’d target them for an Iggy trade. They need help in the pen. Zack could recruit Joey too…move Joey or Pujols to DH. They have the money to pay him. The only fun he’ll have with the Reds is teasing fans over foul balls:(

    • Indy Red Man

      Zimmerman is hitting .097 behind Bryce Harper. Plus Zman is always hurt. Do they want to waste Scherzer and Strasburg’s careers? They could afford Joey too. The Reds need to blow it up and rebuild the rebuild. Get Joey off the books plus Mesoraco this year. One more of Homer I think? They’d then have $ to add some key free agents around Senzel, Winker, Suarez, Hunter Greene, etc.

      Its not happening during the rest of Joey Votto’s career. He’ll be 35 this year. Trade him for anything if you can talk him into it and find a partner. They just need to free up the money.

      • Colorado Red

        Joey has a full NO TRADE.
        He says he wants to stay here.
        Unless he changes his mind,you CANNOT trade him.

  4. Hanawi

    No idea what anyone sees in Reed. He’s proven over and over that he can’t get major league hitters out. He wasn’t even good in AAA last year. Give Garrett a shot. He at least had some good starts last year that showed he could get guys out.

    • Jim Walker

      What “baseball people” see in Reed is raw stuff that rates right up among the best. What the rest of us are seeing is that he has yet to harness that stuff to consistently create outs at the MLB level without giving up a lot of runs in the process.

      How long have we been waiting for him to learn to throw his fastball without “flattening it out” or throw his slider without tipping it off to the opponents? Was he ever really pitching that much better in the minors; or might it be that in the minors he simply faced enough fewer really good hitters to fully expose his weaknesses? Unfortunately, it seems like it is getting to the point the Reds should consider moving on.

      • Jim Walker

        Worth noting that Reed made a meteoric rise in the Reds system based on 8 outstanding starts at AA in 2015 after he came to the Reds in the Cueto deal. He was essentially facing a different set of hitters in a different league than previously.
        His strikeouts per 9 innings doubled over what they had been with the Royals AA team. His HR rate per 9 innings went from .94 to a miniscule .18. In 2016 at AAA with the Reds, he started strongly but actually appeared to have peaked and began to ebb by the time he was first called up to the Reds in June. And has never been the nearly pitcher since that he was in August of 2015 at AA

    • sezwhom

      I would agree. It’s the same thing every time with Reed. Back to back K’s, a dinger, a wild pitch, another K then another dinger. Go up 0-2 then hang one right down Broadway. He has the “stuff” but he doesn’t know how to pitch. I’d really like to see him succeed but I just don’t know anymore.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        There comes a point with every young player that he proves through performance over time that he either does or doesn’t belong at the major league level. The roster is getting crowded with players who have potential for major league success, and Reed can’t stay around forever if he continues to pitch as he has for most of his big league appearances so far. We all hope he figures it out, but I am more concerned that five or six on the current roster of young pitchers figure it out and become above-average MLB pitchers. If five or six players currently in the organization become above-average big leaguers, then you can acquire players from outside to fill out the staff.

      • Jim Walker

        Yes. In part this is what baffles me about how they have and are handling Robert Stephenson. He put in a third of a season last year as a starter in August and September appearing to show that he might be getting things figured out. Now he is back at AAA. So, how do they view him? As a #4 or #5 starter if nobody else in house can do it better than he hs done; and thus they are having a look at other guys; or, as a bust? After all, with the time he has already spent at AAA, it isn’t likely there is much left for him to learn by facing AAA hitters.

        I agree RS is a hire wire act virtually every time he takes to the mound; but with his whiff rate and overall performance at the end of 2017, I’d think they’d want to see what happens if he was just given the ball every 5 days at the MLB level, like they are doing with Mahle and Romano. Johnny Cueto and Homer Bailey didn’t emerge in 10 starts. In fact they struggled, even mightily at times. Despite what Luis Castillo appeared to accomplish in 2017, high end guys don’t generally just fall from the sky; they take time.

    • Ernest Howerton

      Reed has to know something on somebody,I’m convinced

  5. vegastypo

    I just can’t figure out why anyone thinks Reed would necessarily be any better in the bullpen. Let’s see now … he wasn’t walking people, yay, but he was giving up home runs, boo. Is that what you want from a bullpen guy? I think I’ve seen enough of that from our bullpen in the last few years.

    • Jim Walker

      I tend to agree. I suppose there may be the thought that as a reliever he could get another couple of MPH onto his fastball but that still wouldn’t get him to a velocity where lack of movement and poor location wouldn’t still be a major issue.

      What a difference it might make if Reed had come down the road just several years later after the current state of the art sophisticated pitch tacking systems had been added to minor league parks. They’d have the specific video and data side by side of what he was doing at AA when he was a world beater compared to now when the world beats on him. It would take them a long way toward knowing how much he has changed versus how much the change is that he just consistently sees better hitters at higher levels of competition.

  6. B-town Fan

    As for Hamilton trying to score on the wild pitch, he was waved around by Hatcher, so it’s not all on him.

    • greenmtred

      And it did take a good play by catcher and pitcher to get him, but one can’t assume that they won’t make the play.

    • Michael Hutton

      was there last night….Greene looked like he belonged there. His off speed stuff was really good. His FB is too straight-they just looked dead red and hoped. Solid performance for the kid-hope there’s many more to come!

  7. Dave Roemerman

    Reed has great stuff. Let him figure it out in AAA. The homer was golfed on a solid pitch down. Tucker hit it out to right, not left (at 36 degrees, no less – he’s not a big loft guy).

    And yeah, if Reed and 5 walks in 5 AAA innings Finnegan get the lefty starts, where is Garrett?! He’s a great athlete with 98 mph gas who throws strikes; you can’t say he looks any worse by the eye test than those two do!

  8. sezwhom

    Someone explain to me why Garrett isn’t given an opportunity to start? I don’t get it but then, there’s a lot of things I don’t get with the Reds anymore.

  9. CI3J

    Think Greene will make it to Cincinnati by 2020 as a 20 year old?

    How’s this look for the 2020 opening day roster:

    RF Winker
    SS Suarez
    1B Votto
    3B Senzel
    LF Schebler
    C Barnhart/Stephenson
    2B Long/Downs
    CF Trammell

    SP Greene
    SP Castillo
    SP Mahle
    SP Romano
    SP Garrett

    Honestly, except for Votto, that’s a pretty young, pretty talented team, all things considered. Of course, we still have to see if they all pan out, but that’s what this season is for, right?

    • Kyle Farmer

      That looks fantastic. But, man, 2020 seems like a long way away.

  10. Klugo

    Just my humble assessment, but I think Reed’s attitude gets in his way.

  11. scotly50

    Reed should be a good candidate for a trade with some other teams talented underachieving prospect. That Queto trade is looking worse all the time.

  12. big5ed

    I am a Reed defender. He’s actually pitched fewer professional innings than Romano, Stephenson, Garrett, Mahle and Castillo. I have noted before that plenty of All-Star caliber pitchers developed at age 25 or older; Corey Kluber and Jake Arrieta are two recent examples, and Randy Johnson at Reed’s age had much bigger control issues. Lefties tend to take longer, and tall guys tend to take longer. Reed is both.

    Reed has very good stuff, but he needs to smooth his mechanics, which he can only do with time and repetitions. As Chris Welch noted last night, he finishes high, with a bit of a recoil finish like Michael Lorenzen lapsed into last year. I also think that his wind-up is a beat too fast, which keeps him from loading on his left leg like he needs to. No doubt, he needs some starts in AAA, but they are right to be high on him. And he needs to work on his off-speed pitch.

    And yes, give Garrett a start. Let Finnegan prove in AAA that he’s ready for a MLB start.

    • Jim Walker

      Developing the off speed pitch may be key to him ever making it in MLB because he spent much of the year last season starting at AAA; and the delivery issues are not yet settled.

  13. Grand Salami

    But we need a lefty in the rotation.

    That refrain has become this year’s version of Joey isn’t elite because he doesn’t knock in runs.

    • Grand Salami

      Wesley, great recap by the way.

      Lots to chew on and discuss even with a loss.

      The multimedia content like the Kevin spilling chili (Cincinnati-style?) provides some much needed levity!

  14. Indy Red Man

    So now 2020 is the year. It has to be. This team is obviously nowhere close? They really need to make an effort to move Joey. There are teams that could afford him, but he’s going to have to show that he can still drive the ball. I think he’s got enough left in the tank. I just made a quick glance last night and the Angels and Nats could both use him! Bryce Harper is going to get walked 200 times if they don’t put someone behind him?

    The Reds need the capital to put some key free agents around their future core of Suarez, Senzel, Winker, Mahle, Castillo, Greene, etc.

    • Kyle Farmer

      My heart would absolutely break if they moved Joey. However, it’s hard to argue with what you’re saying. And, I’d love to be able to see Joey play for a winner in what is left of his prime.

      I’d like to see them eat some of the contract and get back some (as in multiple) high level prospects.

      • Indy Red Man

        Yeah it would stink and would only really pay off if they landed a younger slugging replacement….which is unlikely. Even if he agreed…hard to move a 35 yr old making $23-25mil/year or whatever til 2023. Atleast they could buyout Homer for $5 mil and still have a lot of capital to do something worthwhile!

      • big5ed

        If Votto’s contract (going forward) is fairly valued, meaning that the market value of his expected production is roughly equal to what he is paid, then a trading partner would be unlikely to give an elite prospect for Votto’s contract. Why not? Because the team could presumably buy that production in the free agent market for the same market price, without having to give up the prospect.

        The Reds, by the same line of thinking, would have to replace Votto’s expected production, either internally or through free agency. In free agency, the Reds would have to pay market price, so I don’t see how that could improve the team, as the Reds would either pay Votto, or the new guy(s), the same amount of money for the same general level of production.

        If teams believe that Votto will not produce to the level of his contract, then the Reds would have to eat part of his contract, but doing so would result in less money to be spent on free agents.

        In other words, I do not believe the Reds will save any money or get any opportunities from trading Votto’s contract rights. Now, if the Reds have viable internal options to replace Votto’s production, then it might make sense to ditch his contract, because a winning team at $125mm/year is a better financial asset than one at $150mm/year. But that depends on how one sees the A and A+ level outfielders or various corner infielders, and I think it is too early to tell on that yet.

      • Indy Red Man

        Yes…if they could move Votto then they couldn’t expect top prospects in return. Not exactly a straight salary dump, but not anyone’s top talent either.

        I had my eye on Ozuna but the Cards grabbed him. Now I’m interested in Nick Castellanos from the Tigers. Not a Votto but a guy they could build around. Only 26 and tremendous power. Detroit is completely rebuilding and might want to stay cheap and he’s going to start costing money. I think he’s at 6/mil this year.

    • greenmtred

      I’m discouraged and demoralized, certainly, but I try to remind myself that the Reds have played nine games so far. This is still a work in progress, and there are still factors we can’t evaluate (Senzel and Winker–somewhat) and Finnegan, Lorenzen and–possibly–DeSclafani to be added to the pitching staff. And Suarez to return from injury. Few of the regulars have been hitting so far (nine games, remember), but some of them probably will. Things may not be as bad as they currently look.

  15. Old-school

    The Reds are 1 loss away from an awful start- swept on the opening home series and a miserable losing road trip that could net them the worst record in baseball after 11 games.

    Yet. If you get past the notion of winning in 2018- particularly the first half, there is some serious sorting going on. Reed/ Mahle/Castillo/Romano /Stephenson/Finnegan and Bailey are all now healthy and pitching.

    Winker is leading off. Senzel is playing every day in Louisville. Blandino and Garrett should have bigger roles but they are on the 25 man roster and there’s nothing that says Garrett couldn’t slide into the SP rotation in May or June if Finnegan and Reed can’t pitch well or an injury occurs.

    Let the starting pitching sorting continue.

    • Colorado Red

      Agree, I do not want Blandino sitting on the bench. But that is what Price is going to do.

  16. Bill

    They have to keep starting Reed & Finnegan because if they don’t it make the Cueto trade look worthless, which it was.

    • greenmtred

      No, they need to keep starting Reed and Finnegan to see if either of them can cut it, as Old-School points out. What do you think the Reds could have reasonably expected for a rental of Cueto? Not a Major League starter of any merit, so prospects were always the expectation. They got three, and two of them might yet amount to something. If even one does, that’s okay, since Cueto would simply have walked at the end of the year.

  17. big5ed

    From the little-things-matter department, Peraza should have scored on the would-be wild pitch in the first inning. He did not score, because he did not get a proper secondary lead, and did not get a proper read on the play. You think Barry Larkin would have been paying attention and scored?

    And Gennett made another error in the first, costing 2 unearned runs. Those two plays set a bad tone.

    I suggested mid-year last year that they need to start over with Peraza, sending him down to Daytona to rework his swing and confidence. After some improvement in the second half, I relented a bit and hoped for the best from Peraza this year. His “best” right now, though, is not major league level. I again believe he needs to be demoted and not seen from for the rest of the year. His swing remains utterly atrocious, and he proved last night that he is asleep on the bases, even when he does manage to get on base. Pennington and Blandino are at least replacement-level; Peraza is not.

    • SultanofSwaff

      Agree 100%. The chip-shot to RF approach is utterly useless. Whomever is advocating that should be fired immediately. For about a week and a half after the all star break last season he drew a few walks, but then reverted to his old self the rest of the year, yet the narrative all winter was that he developed plate discipline. He didn’t.

      Even the fielding is uneven. His footwork is slow-ish, so he gets caught in-between hops more than he should.

  18. SultanofSwaff

    I’m not as down on Reed’s outing as most. The Kingery home run was golfed out, the Hoskins homer was grooved. Finnegan’s 5 walks wouldn’t have been any better. The quality of Reed’s slider vs. lefties and the quality of his changeup vs. righties were both very good. Also, you could see the mound presence is much different this year. The potential is there. I’m not advocating a move to the bullpen, but an easy comp is Brad Hand in San Diego. Another lefty who finishes his pitches nearly upright with a wipeout slider. Reed works in the exact same speeds with his pitches.

    • Old-school

      Give them all the ball every 5 th day for 8-10 times through the rotation. Stephenson and Reed can pitch in AAA. Let Garrett pitch 3-4 innings every 3-5 days out of the pen. See what things look like around memorial day and then adjust.

    • Indy Red Man

      In the beginning of the game they showed Reed’s velocity on his pitches. Fastball avg 94…slider/other stuff 87-88. That’s not nearly enough change of speeds? He doesn’t locate the slider either. Chris Sale can bend it wherever he wants and gets great bend out of it. Reed either throws it at a righties feet where they can easily lay off of it or hangs it like he did with the 0-2 pitch to Hoskins. He never mixes location by working the slider on the outside corner?

      Bottom line….the guy has always been a thrower & not a pitcher. No command and his delivery is not good either. Go back to AAA and prove yourself. His career era in the minors is 3.68. That’s not encouraging either. I’m bailing on him. Peralta has a much better shot to come back and be a starter!

  19. SultanofSwaff

    And just for the record, the ‘hits’ by Hamilton and Peraza were an infield chopper and a bloop. These two in the same lineup are KILLING the team.

    Let’s also remember they both cost the Reds scoring opportunities with their baserunning. Hamilton’s was obvious, but Peraza standing flat footed at third on a passed ball did as well.

    • Wayne Nabors

      There’s a reason peraza is on his 3rd team already,and it ain’t because he’s gonna be a capable major league player,the guy swings at everything

  20. VaRedsFan

    — Billy Hamilton made a bonehead decision trying to go home from second on a wild pitch, which Chris Welsh tried to justify by saying it’s cold and you never know what’s going to happen. But still, he’s not THAT fast.

    Hatcher waved Billy home, no hesitation. Catcher couldn’t locate the ball. I thought it was a good chance to take. 2 outs in the inning and 2 strikes on Scooter facing a lefty.

    • big5ed

      I agree on Hamilton. It was an aggressive play, but even if he had only a 40% chance of scoring, it was the right move. That pitch to Gennett made it a full count, but the woeful Jose was on deck, so they didn’t have much of a chance to score. I actually thought that Billy should have stolen third on the next pitch after the steal of second, to allow him to score in the case of a wild pitch. In fact, he bluffed like he was going, but didn’t.

      Plus, it re-winded the count for the next inning on Gennett, who had seen 5 pitches from Morgan already, and was able to work a walk in the next inning. Alas, the Reds got subsequent weak outs from Peraza, Duvall (another guy not playing to replacement level) and Ervin.

      • Indy Red Man

        That play didn’t bother me w/Scooter facing a lefty. Peraza not waltzing home on the ball in the first inning was the killer. The guy has no instincts and is rarely on top of the game mentally.

      • Wesley Jenkins

        Totally understand the reasoning on both of your parts but still under no circumstance would I personally send someone home from second on a wild pitch. Too many things have to go right for that to work.

  21. jreis

    I would still like to see what hunter can do at ss. I would like him to be in the lineup everyday. he seems to be a crowd pleaser and would put fans in the seats

  22. Matt WI

    The Reds pitching staff collectively is giving up an .826 OPS. That’s absurd. Last year it was .810. In 2016 it was .801. All absurd. In 2013 it was .683.

    I know there are a lot of factors in this, such as, no Cueto, HR’s were up at a record pace across MLB… but at the end of the day, that’s a lot of pitches being grooved. Even though I know I’m over-simplifying, doesn’t it point toward some sort of systemic problem?

    Is it not time to think about maybe just getting Price back into the role of pitching coach and let someone else take the managerial role?

    • big5ed

      They have given up 27 runs in the 2 games started by Castillo, which won’t continue, and which distorts the average. Other than that, they’ve yielded a manageable 4 runs/game.

      The offense is more scary. Peraza, Duvall and Hamilton are all below .525 in OPS (Peraza at an impossible .400); Votto and Winker have combined to tie Rosanne Barr and me in extra base hits, with 0; and the only two regulars with high OPSs, Schebler and Suarez, are both on the DL.

      As Lee Elia famously said, “The name of the game is hit the ball, catch the ball, and get the [bleeping] job done.” The Reds aren’t doing any of the three. 153 games left, though.

  23. Timmy RedLeg

    I agree with the “systemic problem” theory. We’ve been talking about all the good/great young arms that the Reds have accumulated, for a couple of years now. How many of them have succeeded? This organization cannot capitalize on the talent they have. That is a “systemic problem”. IMO

  24. Indy Red Man

    The Reds have grabbed their rightful place as usual in mlb’s statisticland:

    30th in era
    30th in whip
    10th in batting average
    26th in runs

    5 non-quality starts in a row. Only 3 of 9 quality starts overall and one was 6ip 3 er from Romano. Thats not a win either in 40 degree weather with our offense/bullpen

    As for the offense….you can’t play in a bandbox and have 2-3 guys that still can’t hit double digit HRs. Thats the way the game is played now!

  25. Timmy RedLeg

    Our current 25 man roster is awful. I honestly can’t believe that I was so hopeful at the beginning of season. The Reds had 2 players go down. And now that I look at this team without those 2,(Suarez & Schebler), it blows my mind how bad the lineup looks. I hate being Debby downer, but 4+yrs of this is enough. Even though this franchise has not had much success in recent history, they still had not finished in last place since ‘82,( I think that’s right ), & now it’s been 2 consecutive years. And they are heading for a third. Something has to change!

    • jreis

      at least that 82 team was fun to watch. this team is really bad

  26. Shchi Cossack

    The Reds DFA Gallardo and promote Rainey. A cool $750K wasted. That’s entirely on DW and anyone who advised him it would be a good move. It was a stupid move.

    If Rainey was available last night, the Reds may have squeezed out a victory. The bullpen is looking more and more like a positive work-in-progress now.

    I’m sure Gallardo will report to AAA rather than give up his payday that no one else will come close to matching.

    The Reds are still playing short a positiion polayer and have an extra bullpen arm. Quackenbush shouldn’t feel too comfortable with the MLB surroundings.

    • Eric the Red

      Whoever was the the person or persons pushing for the Gallardo signing has presumably just lost a lot of influence. I wonder who it was.

      Price clearly had no intention of bringing Weiss into a close game yesterday. If we get into another close game tonight, he probably won’t trust Weiss or Rainey. And he certainly shouldn’t trust Quackenbush. So it could be interesting. Maybe Iglesias can go three….

    • Jim Walker

      You are probably correct about Gillardo reporting if the Reds assign him outright rather than releasing him. Everyone (myself included) is wondering why the Reds offered him a MLB deal in the first place instead of a minor league deal to let him pitch his way into or out of job with the Reds. The only thing I can think of that somebody else was offering him a minor league deal and it took an MLB offer to land him. Being a pitcher with a reasonable MLB tenure is like a license to steal I guess.