2017 Reds / Game Thread

Reds vs. Cardinals — September 20, 2017

The Cincinnati Reds (66-85) will try to bounce back from last night’s 8-7 extra inning loss to the St. Louis Cardinals (78-72) in the second game of this three-game series tonight at Great American Ball Park. First pitch is at 7:10 ET.

The Reds missed a golden opportunity to crawl with a half game of fourth place in the NL Central, as the Brewers beat the Pirates last night. There’s still a chance to avoid finishing in the basement of the division, but the Reds will need to get better pitching than what they got yesterday.

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA xFIP K% BB%
Rookie Davis 21.0 7.71 5.72 15.6 12.8
Luke Weaver 47.2 1.89 2.64 31.0  5.9

Davis makes his return to the rotation for the first time since May 8 against the New York Yankees. It’s been a struggle for Davis this season, with being thrust into the big league rotation and not having success immediately. He had one solid start against Pittsburgh, allowing no runs on four hits through five innings, striking out two and walking three.

Davis was also injured for about a month after being sent back to Triple-A. When he did return to the rotation in Louisville, he was very inconsistent. He started 11 games and posted a 4.77 ERA while surrendering 10 home runs and walking 13 batters in 60.1 innings. There were some good starts in August, but he would then turn around and give up five runs the next start. Part of his problem has been his BB%. At Triple-A, it was 5.0. At the major league level, he’s walked 14 in 21 innings.

Davis’ only appearance since being recalled was against the Cardinals. He pitched two innings out of the bullpen and gave up two runs and four hits, including a home run.

rookie davis stats

As a rookie pitcher, Weaver has been the opposite of Davis. A late first-round draft pick in 2014 (yes, the same year as last night’s pitcher, Jack Flaherty), the Cardinals called him up at the beginning of July and made him a starter a few weeks later. He’s been nothing short of brilliant since. In ten games, he’s 6-1 with a sparkling 1.89 ERA. Expect him to be in the Cardinals starting rotation in 2018.

He’s very much a strikeout pitcher. In 2017, Weaver has already struck out 58 in 47.2 innings. Last season, he pitched 36.1 innings for the Cardinals and struck out 45. He’s also very much a ground ball pitcher, as 55 percent of balls hit off him in 2017 have been ground balls. Even last season, his GB% was 44 percent.

Although his GB% is high, when Weaver does give up fly balls, they’ve been home runs. That’s one area where he’s struggled. He’s given up four this season and seven in 2016, including one to Adam Duvall. Weaver faced the Reds last week and came away with the victory, giving up just one unearned run on two hits and striking out six in six innings.

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Lineups

Cardinals                                                       Reds

1. Matt Carpenter (1B)
2. Tommy Pham (LF)
3. Dexter Fowler (CF)
4. Paul DeJong (SS)
5. Yadier Molina (C)
6. Kolten Wong (2B)
7. Jedd Gyorko (3B)
8. Stephen Piscotty (RF)
9. Luke Weaver (P)
1. Jesse Winker (RF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Scooter Gennett (2B)
5. Adam Duvall (LF)
6. Jose Peraza (CF)
7. Patrick Kivlehan (3B)
8. Tucker Barnhart (C)
9. Rookie Davis (P)

-In yesterday’s preview, I said Eugenio Suarez had the day off. Instead, he was at the hospital with his wife waiting for his first child to be born. That’s a good reason to have a couple off days.

-Scooter Gennett has 26 home runs. Chalk that up as something I’d never thought I’d see this year.

News, Notes, and Pre-Game Reading

-Billy Hamilton is back, but in a limited role. Hopefully it will help him retain the NL stolen base title this season.

-Forgot to post this yesterday, but if you haven’t read it yet, it’s a good behind-the-scenes story on what Joey Votto does to prepare for games.

-And finally, a fun, “what-if” post here at Redleg Nation today about what trades the Reds could make for next season.

 

18 thoughts on “Reds vs. Cardinals — September 20, 2017

  1. So Schebler gets another night off but Duval with the struggling bat continues to play

    • Good call, Old School.

      I hope someone in the off-season, whether it’s here or the Enquirer beat writers, anywhere, can piece together the logic of some of the playing time decisions from the Reds in 2017.

      Unless it’s the Louisville Bats starting 9 taking the field, the Reds owe nothing to any other MLB team. Votto is always going to start, Duvall apparently is as well. Suarez, too, when he returns. No one in MLB is going to say a thing if Gennett/Cozart sit every other night the rest of the way and Peraza gets in, and Ervin plays CF.

      I wish Bryan Price would worry more about the development of young Reds players and less about the integrity of the playoff race (the one that the Reds have been eliminated from for about 3 months).

    • Price doesn’t like to tax his brain with the lineups, don’t wanna over exert one’s self and pull a hernia

  2. Just saw the report on the Frazier line drive at Yankee Stadium. Nasty… I have a feeling MLB stadiums are going to have a lot more netting next year.

  3. Rookie Davis vs one of the best young pitchers in baseball. Thats why a manager thats a competitor would atleast make a half@#% attempt to win last night! And then there’s Price.

    Rookie Davis makes Adleman look like Orel Hershiser. What in the world made them think he should be in the opening rotation? It almost doesn’t matter how much talent they collect, if they’re going to continue to be this incompetent

    • Wondering about a lot of the same about the last two games, especially that they should have made the effort to grab the W last night when it was there for the taking.

      Was sending Stephens and Davis out for these first two Cardinal games, a sign of an organizational tank job for draft position? The Reds are 5 games back of the 4th pick currently in line for the 6th pick and in a pack separated by 4 games for spots #5-11.

  4. So it’s another night of BLARGH! where I don’t tune in (or not for very long). How many more games until the madness stops for a while?

      • With Garrett FBs touching 95mph even 97 for the first time all year at least with Amir there is hope; with Rookie Davis and Stephens….close to none.

  5. I quit watching all the games long ago, but I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen Duvall get a hit while I’m watching? I feel bad for him. He’s either fishing on bad breaking balls, popping up, or rolling over for weak ground outs? When he’s going good…he can really drive the ball to all fields. If he’s a Red and goes this cold next year then they’ll need to platoon vs only lefties for a while.

    • For the year of 2017 to date Duvall’s OPS+ versus RHP is 93.

      For the last month his overall OPS+ is 25; for the last 2 weeks it is zero/ zilch/ nada.

      He is just used up. They need a plan to manage his playing time better in 2018.

  6. You can bet Price’s ineptitude is based on trying to get Duvall to 100RBIs so the Reds can overpay from arbitration increases that reward the wrong metrics

    • The other side of the coin is, it might also improve his trade value with that tag of 2 straight 30+ HR and 100+ RBI seasons.

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