The Cincinnati Reds (53-72) are back home tonight at 7:10 PM against the first place Chicago Cubs (66-57). The Reds got a much needed day off yesterday after opening the month with games in 20 straight days. The Reds had a pretty solid road trip, going 5-5 against the Brewers, Cubs, and Braves.

The Cubs are coming off a series sweep of the Blue Jays at Wrigley, and currently lead the NL Central by 2.5 games over the Brewers (Cardinals are 3.5 back). The Cubs are 8-5 against the Reds this season.

Starting Pitchers

Homer Bailey 53.1 6.92 5.06 8.44 5.70 0.0
John Lackey 131.0 7.90 2.95 4.67 5.49 0.1

If tonight’s pitching matchup look familiar, it is because Bailey and Lackey squared off six days ago. The Cubs won that game 7-6. Lackey had one of his best start of the season, allowing just 1 run and 4 hits in 6.0 innings.

Bailey got screwed in the first inning on terrible ball 4 call to Kris Bryant. The next batter, Anthony Rizzo hit a grand slam. Bailey actually settled down and pitched pretty well, allowing just 2 more runs into the 6th inning. Bailey struck out a season high 10 batters, which was very encouraging. Bailey did however walk 5, which is something that has killed him so far in 2017.

Starting Lineups

Cubs Reds
1. Jon Jay (CF)
2. Kyle Schwarber (LF)
3. Kris Bryant (3B)
4. Anthony Rizzo (1B)
5. Ian Happ (2B)
6. Alex Avila (C)
7. Jason Heyward (RF)
8. Javier Baez (SS)
9. John Lackey (P)
1. Billy Hamilton (CF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Adam Duvall (LF)
5. Scooter Gennett (2B)
6. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
7. Scott Schebler (RF)
8. Tucker Barnhart (C)
9. Homer Bailey (P)

News and Notes


For the Reds to go .500 on a pretty difficult road trip, that was encouraging. The Reds offense continue to produce, and now ranks 6th in the MLB in OPS (.772). Homer Bailey showed some signs of life last week with 10 strikeouts, and bouncing back after a disastrous first inning. Let’s hope tonight is the night that he puts together a vintage Bailey start. Go Reds!

Nick is a lifelong Reds fan who was born and raised in Cincinnati. He acquired his love of baseball from his late grandfather. Nick moved to the Cleveland area in 2014 with his wife, and his currently fighting to convert his beautiful baby daughter Emma to Reds fandom. Nick has been writing for Redleg Nation since 2013. Follow Nick on Twitter @nicholaspkirby.

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  1. Winker is MIA I see. What happened to Price saying they’d be giving Winker playing time?

    • The Cubs are only 14.0 games ahead of us. Price understands that we have no hope of catching them unless the fastest man leads off.

      • I think Price still has that ‘win’ mentality so why start the young, unproven guys. Ends up being to a detriment to this teams future

    • Could have played in 4 or 5 more games if they sent him to AAA instead of let his service clock continue to run while he gets no AB- just not thinking about their personnel and will let injury prone Hamilton keeping playing every day

  2. Awesome comment, KMartin.

    The best snark always seems to come out on the game threads.

    So, let’s see….

    The Reds top two projected starters for 2018, based on experience/expectations/contract size are:

    -a guy who has not pitched for the Reds all year, and is uncertain to do so rest of season

    -a guy who is FIPing (and xFIPing) over 5, including 5 walks per 9 IP, and we are recognizing bad Ball 4 calls against him, so we can squint and try and see a decent start.

    Laissez les bons temps rouler. Go Redlegs.

    (Reds starting pitching currently at .1 WAR for season. All other NL Central teams in top half of MLB, at 8.5 WAR or better. Yikes.)

    • I found that funny…Bailey “only” gave up 2 more runs over the next 5 innings was encouraging.

  3. So they put Happ in instead of Zobrist…It’s our lucky day

  4. Game is on MLB Network for some of the country

  5. A fine 1-2-3 inning by Homer.

  6. My brother gave me tickets tonight. From a friend of his. Section 128 best seats I’ve ever had in Great American

  7. 1st pitch knock for Billy! Followed by a 1st pitch SB

  8. Awesome by Billy taking home. on the wild pitch that bounced only 10 feet away. Lackey couldn’t beat him despite being 25 feet closer

  9. It’s Hamilton night at the park as he saves another run with that catch.

  10. Tucker…rbi double….he continues to produce

  11. Duval, now Hamilton have both popped up with a man on 3rd with 1 out

  12. The first run was on Billy but I hate to see him coming up with a man on 3rd/less than 2 outs. I guess it would still be the same issue if he hit 9th. I think he might actually lead off more batting 9th though?

    • He’s actually 8-22 (.364) this year and .343 lifetime….never mind

  13. trainer visiting Homer on the mound….sigh. staying in

  14. Cozart was off the bag…they’ll be lucky if this isn’t reversed

    • Lackey was out of the baseline….does that not count?

      • That could one of those deals….didn’t hurt Bailey directly there but he had to work harder and its humid. The Cubs got Wojo like that last week.

        Scoots!!! He’s a Cincy boy and he feels at home! They need to plan on him playing 2nd when they consider Cozart.

  15. The Legend Gennett goes VERY deep!

  16. Bailey is out of the game after 3…possibly a hammy running to 1st

    • Hopefully, it’s a not a big deal thing…like Max Scherzer sleeping on his neck the wrong way and leaving a game earlier this season.

      (That was a new one to me).

    • Hope it is and not his arm or elbow.

    • Hurt again, and again, and again, and again. No one likes to hear this, but something stinks with the med staff in Cincy.

  17. Homer and Mesoraco were the bridge.
    That bridge collapsed. Hard to see the Reds winning 90 games in 2018 with zero clarity for SP x Castillo.

  18. Homer….I swear? He was pitching well. We can’t catch a break with starting pitching? Its time to bring up Mahle or start stretching Lorenzen out a little bit. Why not?

  19. Shackleford would not be my choice but hey we may not have anybody else.

  20. No word on Bailey’s problem yet. Radio broadcast speculating back spasms.

  21. Note to Reds pitchers of the future: Spin borderline sliders up there to Baez for the rest of his career, or until he adjusts.

  22. Toronto needs to rebuild and has Marcus Stroman (2.99, 26 yrs old) and Detroit has even more old guys and needs to completely reload. They have Michael Fulmer (3.60 era, 3.32 lifetime w/.235 batt avg allowed, and 24 yrs old). The Reds have to do something?

  23. 1st MLB hit for Shack

  24. Walk a 40 yr old pitcher twice….I swear?

  25. Lackey has now been walked twice

  26. Lets see if Price lets AAAAelford blow the lead?

  27. This inning spells big trouble. Need a double play in the worst way

  28. Our best shot to score is off Lackey and we could prob win if we got up 5-1 or something but Price goes w/a scrub and now we’ll be lucky to be tied?

    • The 5th-6th innings are prob the most important in this game with the way its trending? What happened to Lorenzen in the 3rd inning back in April? Price has zero vision…zero anticipation of mostly predictable results

  29. He is a minor leaguer and we can’t expect much from him.

  30. Shackelford? Get him out before we’re losing?

  31. I think we got exactly what we asked for.Hard to imagine we didn’t have somebody a little better to put in but maybe we didn’t.Just can’t expect him to get these guys out.

    • We were off yesterday. Price has everyone. This is the Cubs. We hate the Cubs and their bandwagon people fill GABP. He needs to be sharp! Where was Peralta? He owns lefties. Lorenzen has been struggling for 5-6 weeks now. He should’ve pulled Shackelford after 2 guys got on…let alone 2 runs and bases loaded. Price is a moron…period!!

    • Dead right, James.

      It’s fine to roll out Shackelford while playing out the string of the season, but keep expectations low.

      Teams in the playoff hunt aren’t rolling out Shackelfords to try and suppress the defending World Series champs.

      There are a whole bunch of positions on the 25-man roster where the guy has to be a lot better next season or replaced, before the Reds can start thinking of being a winning team.

      • Thats the thing though….they got 1 zero out of Shackelford. Why push to 40 pitches? Plus if you can go to Lorenzen then you can go to Peralta just as easy? They weren’t going to hit for their catcher and prob wouldn’t pull Heyward either?

        • Price just over manages.He just doesn’t get it.Trying to squeeze one more out or one more inning is always his down fall.Shack walked 3 guys and threw a wild pitch that inning before he went and got him

  32. Even though Shack was a disaster, Lorenzen gives up the tying run

    • Horrible pitch again? Above the knees and pretty much down the middle. ML is a mess right now

  33. It’s amazing to me that teams keep running on Duvall. The guy is legit in left.

  34. KAAA-RUSHED by Suarez…3 run tater!!!

  35. Got that 3 runs back thanks to Mr.Suarez.

  36. Wowwwww!!!! Lackey was right down the middle on the 2-0 and 2-1 as well. Suarez finally made him pay!!!

  37. Lorenzen could go 8-2….lol

  38. Tucker is not getting a good grip on the ball throw down to second

  39. What The heck was that?

  40. Hamilton’s throw was off line

    • It was dead online but hit the runner

    • Yeah but there was a guy behind third backing up the play and he had no more use for that glove than Michael Jackson

    • was a great throw, ML network announcers were like a Baez will get thrown out at third, oh it hits the runner

  41. This game is not going to end well.Lorenzen throwing BP and I mean right down the middle.

    • The Baez hit was just a dribbler but wild pitching him to 2nd is what cost the run. Baby steps I guess…he’ll get better

  42. #CallUpSenzel


    This game feels like it is going to have more unusual silliness before it’s over.

  43. I agree.Its has more silly stuff to come I am sure.

  44. While Thom and Chris say it is hard to pitch these days…they do not mention a Kershaw, Scherzer, Sale, Kluber, and a host of others who do very well. Bad pitchers do not do well and the Reds have a lot of those.

  45. There you go….Lorenzen can hit and he can run like a deer as well. If he can get the sinker going then he could be a very good starter!

  46. Cingrani sighting in Pittsburgh.

  47. There’s some silliness.

    Not giving Cozart a chance to drive in a run with 1 out.

    Someone, Hamilton or Price, overplayed their hand, not expecting a throw through.

    • Its Billy and you want to stay out of the double play but yeah…’re right! Zack is hitting .368 off lefties

    • That was just dumb luck. Hamilton foot slid into the throw.

  48. Stupid is the correct word.

  49. Entertaining game anyway! Lorenzen got a hit and ran to 3rd and its humid. I would pull him if he gets into any trouble. Maybe it will be 10-4?

  50. 6 innings 2 hours and 40 minutes

    • That’s why Seat’s brother gave him the tickets for tonight. He had the inside scoop that this game would be slower than a turtle race.

    • A total of 17 hits and 9 walks. Not a tutorial on pitching…thats for sure

  51. Fire Price Monday.

    You can now add Michael Lorenzen to the promising prospects this rebuild was dependent upon who are now going backwards under Price.
    Reed, Garrett, and Stephenson and now Lorenzen.
    Perhaps Price is just good at reinforcing established pitchers. Has he ever developed pitching?
    How can Lorenzen change his mechanics at the MLB level and regress while the manager who was hired as a pitching coach watch him regress? Lorenzen was a high draft pick. He has shown tremendous potential as a pitcher with an elite repertoire of pitches at times….yet, he is going backwards.

    Fire Price Monday.

  52. Peralta now? Can’t get out 2 lefties? Had their catcher down 0-2….Cmon????

  53. Typical for this season. Had everyone down 0-2 and gets nobody out. As bad as Price is…has nobody he can count on except Iggy. Ridiculous

  54. #&$&S$% this season. Im done

  55. Peralta breaks the golden rule to Baez by throwing him a fastball. Broke his bat, but didnt matter

  56. Lol fans love it. Are they at Wrigley tonight? Reds fans stayed home because they are tired of Price and his clown show.

  57. Homer feeling irritation in his shoulder.
    Iglesias is proven. Castillo is promising. That’s it.
    Price has failed to developed young pitching with great potential. That was his duty. Even some young pitchers with some MLB success, are now regressing.

    Fire Price.

    • I don’t understand the mechanics change to Lorenzen.unless it was injury related

    • Take that clown Jenkins with him. The one coach they should keep is long but he will be the only one they let go. Bryant and Rizzo against Wood. Like taking candy from a baby

    • 3 ring circus – led by Ringmaster Bryan Price. This is an absolute joke.

  58. Wood walks the bases loaded

  59. Leave Wood in til his ERA reaches 15

  60. Blake WOODSHED

  61. Bob Castellini…..are you watching this?????

    • Don’t worry – I’m sure he’s got some nice bobble head giveaways lined up ….

    • Bob is a bad businessman. The object is to put a quality team on the field to put fannys in the seats. That’s how you make money. If it wasn’t for cubs fans the place would almost be empty. You have to do something to get people to the park. The starting 8 are doing their part everynight. Price and the pitching staff are not. You can’t fire the pitching staff Bob. So guess who has to go? You need new blood. A new way of thinking. If you’re not going to play Ervin or even winker then send them down. They aren’t doing anything good sitting. Hell Price takes Duvall out and puts Kivlehan in!!! Is he the future? No Price. God he is an idiot.

      • Learned it from Dusty.Young guys set and watch and learn how to be a big leaguer and get coffee and donuts.

  62. Is this for real?

  63. The pitching is not very good.

  64. If he ever gets an out, he should get a standing ovation

  65. This has become laughable. A winnable game until the appearance of Wood. Can he finish the season with the Reds?

  66. Embarassing and still another inning to go but Price still will be back next year.

  67. This game is climbing into Top 2 or 3 of “Redsiest Game of 2017”.

    Blow 2 different 3-run leads, now trailing by 7.

    Blake Wood is making me forgot how bad Peralta was hit by the Cubs.

    Price isn’t throwing the pitches, but to Old School’s point, this game is sticking out as worrisome that the Price/Jenkins combo may not be able to develop the staff to playoff caliber.

    Dick Williams can privately tell the media Price is a placeholder in 2018 until he finds his guy, but it likely won’t help fan optimism or ticket sales.

  68. Well you can get rid of all of the pitchers or get rid of the guys who are in charge of their development.Price feels no responsibility for any of this mess and DW said he isn’t at fault.I guess its nobody’s fault.

    • The minute Dick Williams hires his own guy, he shares in the blame if the team isn’t on the upswing. If Price stays, he gets to play the “I didn’t hire him” card for another season.

      I wonder if Big Bob is truly as disgusted as we are on nights like this, or just happy to be banking profits at this year’s end from the TV/Media contracts.

  69. I don’t know what it would be like to be him but if I was for a night I would ask myself this question.In a year of sorting and trying to find about our young pitchers or young position players why would I not see any of them playing?I mean getting beat up and humiliated at home by the World Champs isn’t so bad if my young guys are playing.Why aren’t they playing Dick?

  70. Storen leads the world in HBP by a reliever

  71. Maddon should have benched his starters for their own health

  72. Cingrani with two yes two scoreless innings tonight in Pittsburgh.Never knew he could pitch more then one.Guess Roberts didn’t know that.

  73. In his last 4 appearances, Storen gave up at least 1 hit and 1 BB.

    Tonight, 2 HBP.

    Wearing down?

    His true ability level showing over the long haul of season?

    I don’t think he meant to hit Bryzzo. He is just faltering.

  74. Winker sighting Bob.

  75. When was the last time we had 3 of our pitchers get a hit in the same game?Homer,Shack and Lornenzen all got hits tonight.Heck let Storen hit for himself and try for 4.

  76. Winker belts one over the moon deck tunnel

  77. Nice Jesse !! Now go grab some more pine for the next week – courtesy of the clown prince Price

    • Sadly, you’re probably right. Price is Dusty version 2.0 – veterans play, rookies ride the bench.

    • “We benched Ervin after his 3 hits last week in Winker. Get a few more, then we will talk about getting you a start.”

      • In the meantime go for coffee and don’t forget the doughnuts this time.

  78. 9 runs and ain’t close to sniffing a win – just pathetic

  79. Suarez with another bomb…
    Clearly we need cozart as that last piece.

  80. Maybe Winker should play more often.Must have just got back with coffee.

  81. When I left the ballpark we were winning

  82. Say it once, say it again. Aren’t the owners of this team business people?? Don’t they rely on accountability, productivity and success.

    Price tenure has resulted in 4th, 5th, 5th, and likely another 5th place finish in the central. Zero improvement. Eventually, there needs to be accountability.

  83. What baffles me is how management and ownership of this team can look at nights like this and think, yeah, Price should still be manager. I know, not everything is Price’s fault, but a day after an off day, Blake Wood gets put in the game is proof to me that Price doesn’t care about the future. He cares about now. Now doesn’t matter on a losing team, tomorrow does. Our future IS bright. Young pitchers get their lumps, but I’d rather have hope and a new vision with a new manager than continue to cling on days gone by.

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About Nick Kirby

Nick is a lifelong Reds fan who was born and raised in Cincinnati. He acquired his love of baseball from his late grandfather. Nick moved to the Cleveland area in 2014 with his wife, and his currently fighting to convert his beautiful baby daughter Emma to Reds fandom. Nick has been writing for Redleg Nation since 2013. Follow Nick on Twitter @nicholaspkirby.


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