2017 Reds / Game Thread

Reds vs. Braves – August 19, 2017

Can we have a group fist bump for Adam Duvall?

Last night, he turned the game in the Reds’ favor with a two-run homer in the sixth inning, the first of three off R.A. Dickey in the inning – after which he was the victim of a Joey Votto fake:

Along with leading National League outfielders with 11 assists, he has knocked in the most runs of any NL left fielder over the past two years, 188. There is not much more Reds fans could ask of him, both offensively and defensively. Many questions and roster spots remain to be “sorted” in the Reds’ current rebuild. But it’s very clear that Adam Duvall not only belongs as an everyday left fielder and cleanup hitter, but should be considered one of the cornerstones of the future. The Reds still have four more years of contract control.

He’ll be starting in left field and batting cleanup again tonight as the Reds play the Braves in the middle game of a three-game series at new SunTrust Park.

Starting Pitchers

Robert Stephenson 42.0 6.64 5.43 20.7% 14.1%
Julio Teheran 137.1 4.98 5.05 18.2% 8.9%

The key for Stephenson, as it seems to be for most of the young Reds pitchers, is control – both within and outside the strike zone. Hopefully he was closely watching Sal Romano’s excellent outing last night. Romano walked only one, and for the most part, pitched to contact. Reds fans would take an outing like Romano’s every day of the week. This is Stephenson’s first start since returning from the disabled list after suffering a bruised shoulder diving for a popup. He did pitch in relief earlier in the week as a tune-up for this start.

Teheran was considered among the elite young starters in the game as recently as 2014, but he has trended more toward just average since then. Billy Hamilton probably knows that Teheran’s pickoff move is among the best.


After three appearances covering 3.2 innings for Raisel Iglesias in the last four days, whether he will be used is questionable. Perhaps for one key out. Michael Lorenzen and Wandy Peralta should be available after being given the day off yesterday. Tim Adleman and presumably Asher Wojciechowski will be available in long relief if Stephenson struggles early. Perhaps Wojciechowski will go back into the rotation in Scott Feldman’s spot, though there has been no announcement of that yet.

Starting Lineups

Reds Braves
CF Billy Hamilton CF Ender Inciarte
SS Jose Peraza 3B Brandon Phillips
1B Joey Votto 1B Freddie Freeman
LF Adam Duvall LF Matt Kemp
2B Scooter Gennett RF Nick Markakis
3B Eugenio Suarez C Kurt Suzuki
RF Scott Schebler 2B Ozzie Albies
C Tucker Barnhart SS Dansby Swanson
P Robert Stephenson P Julio Teheran

Zack Cozart’s availability for tonight’s game was unclear as of the time this article was written. He took a fastball squarely off his shinbone in last night’s game and had to come out. He’s not starting, but we’ll see if he is available to pinch-hit.

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85 thoughts on “Reds vs. Braves – August 19, 2017

  1. Duvall certainly belongs in LF until he proves otherwise and he also certainly belongs in the middle of the lineup, driving in those runs. Right now he’s as good as any other option hitting cleanup and better than most and belongs at cleanup until he proves otherwise or someone better suited for hitting cleanup steps forward.

    Right now, I would prefer Cozart hitting cleanup when he starts, but that’s quibbling over the arrangement of the grains of sand on the beach. I just preper a better OBP from the cleanup hitter and a pure thumper like Duvall hitting 5th or 6th.

  2. Nice to see Winker and his .383 OBP & .840 OPS sitting again against a RHP. We simply have to have all that speed getting back to the dugout otherwise the Reds might RUN into trouble with the commissioner for dragging out the games too long.

    • Now that Schebs is back, I would prefer to see Winker shuttled back to AAA for the remainder of the season. As far as the Old Cossack is concerned, Winker has proven he is ready and belongs in the show as a starting OF. The Reds might as well curb his service time for the remainder of the season so the Reds can get 7 years of team control and avoid super 2 status with Winker since Price is both unwilling and unable to manage his playing time and utilization.

    • Winker on the bench, Hamilton and Peraza hitting 1/2 and Suarez in the 6 hole is incompetent.
      Its no longer about Price, Dick Williams’ credibility is now on the line. So is Bob “We’re simply not going to lose anymore” Castellini.
      Fire Price Monday.

        • Agree, but watch that weird karma as Schebler, Peraza, and Hamilton have big nights. I hope so, anyway. Looking forward to Stephenson pitching. Hopefully he can keep the ball down and throw strikes much like he did last time out. How bout a nice sweep of the Braves with three rooks?

      • Its not going to happen.Price will return next year and so will Billy batting lead off because he’s fast at 6 million per year.

  3. Yep, Joey now has no one hitting in front of him. Even a Blind man ought to be able to see this.

    • Listening to the game on radio in the early innings either Marty or Rosecrans said Peraza is hitting .370 in his last 19 games. Since he’s also taking a walk, his recent OBP is probably about .400 so there is 1 person hitting in front of Joey.

  4. I know Votto isn’t a speedster, but with his crazy-good on base percentage why not use him as lead off? Just thinking out loud here.

    • That option has been bantered about for a long time, but most have come to accept that moving Votto to leadoff is beyond a pipe dream and the only remotely possible option in that regard would be moving Votto up to the #2 hole.

  5. Via Twitter from Erik Boland…

    Girardi said Chapman no longer the closer. Will use him st “different” points to “try and get him right.” Chapman was on board with it

    This is why only fools spend big bucks on bullpen arms, especially closers who only pitch when a save is possible.

  6. So the Braves actually have zoomed in coverage of the HBP/foul. Could have helped the Reds twice last week.

  7. That’s the current gold glove cf’er there making that error on the Suarez hit. He also misjudged the double by Duval.

  8. Tucker picks up his 2nd knock of the night following the Schebler rbi single

  9. Are we sure we want Billy and Peraza batting at the top of the order?It seems we may needs to discuss this a little more in depth.

  10. Uh-oh…RS botches the throw on the bunt. No visit from Jenkins as he goes 2-0 on the next batter

  11. I don’t believe Peraza is our SS. of the future! In fact I believe the only position he can play at Major League level is 2B. And he is just average at that position.

    • Based on 77 starts at SS? Good thing we didn’t ditch the Suarez at 3rd experiment after 77 games

      • The difference between Suarez playing 3B and Peraza playing SS is that Peraza has been playing SS most of his career. Suarez was a novice at 3B when last season began.

  12. The Braves are teaching Joe Maddon why you don’t play 4 outfielders vs. Votto

    • Hammer worked in the A’s clubhouse as a kid. Reggie gave him the nickname, because he thought he looked like Hank

  13. No we didn’t give up on Suarez after 77 games at 3B. But we did give up on him at SS pretty quick. Peraza doesn’t pass eyeball test, IMO. I believe he could help the Reds. Just not as an everyday SS.

    • It’s a fair point. Once Senzel gets here, (we hope he is as good as advertised), Peraza will probably be a platoon guy with Scooter

  14. Stephenson done after 5…only 75 pitches. OK…we’ll take that….only 1 ER

  15. I had given up on Stephenson but he looks a little better! Last 3 appearances…12.2 ip only 2 er. I think he’s figuring out that 93-95 doesn’t really make you a power pitcher any longer. He’s throwing alot of off speed and keeping the ball down. He could definitely be in the mix next year? They have to figure out who can be an adequate starter and who can adjust to a relief role. I’d rate the young guys this way so far….Castillo, Mahle, Romano, Stephenson, and Garrett

  16. Tack on runs are good. sac fly scooter. Maybe they can keep Iggy out of this one,if he isn’t already being held out

    • No Iggy. 3 saves in 4 nights and he was warming up the other game that Blake Wood blew. Its got to be Storen if they need a save tonite.

  17. Duvall gets Joey to third and Scooter with the sac fly.Great execution by those guys.

  18. I hope Price doesn’t go to long with Wojo.He is losing it really fast.

    • He’s just short on talent. He gave up 2 that inning and they hit a ball 400 ft off him last inning but Billy snagged it with his back on the wall in CF. That just missed a 2 run HR.

      Schebler….welcome back!!

  19. Wojo going two innings tonight might take him out of contention to start Wednesday. I wonder who will take Feldman’s place in the rotation now.

    Garrett pitched tonight, so he’s out. Davis, Mahle, and Stephens are scheduled next three nights in Louisville. Could be Cody Reed? There is a 40-man spot open if they opt for Mahle.

    • Mahle is on the 40 man spot this winter and forever…. every team will draft him in the rule 5 draft….. so why not now?

  20. I believe that its safe to say Schebler’s shoulder had something to do with his slump?

  21. The shift burns Ervin there. Thats why a guy like Winker that sprays it around is more valuable! If you’re not going to slam 25 Hrs or more then its pretty important to use the whole field and not let them shift you to death.

  22. I believe its also safe to say that Billy’s 0-5 is not a good thing from the lead off spot.

  23. I liked Scooter before but had no idea that he had this kind of power! That ball was blasted!! 433 feet

  24. I think we’re 8th in total runs scored now. They were 19th less then 2 weeks ago

  25. And now we see Iggy anyway. Think the Blake Wood experiment is almost over friends?

  26. Ok…we’re going to give you 15 minutes of hitters….try to get 1 of them out.

  27. Quit pitching Freeman away? Atleast not a fastball away. Do these guys not read scouting reports?

  28. Freeman does what Freeman does … now to Kemp who per the booth is 3 for 6 against Lorenzen.

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