2017 Reds / Titanic Struggle Recap

Recap: Reds hammer Pirates, extend winning streak to two games

Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (43-63) 9 14 0
Pittsburgh Pirates (51-55) 1 7 1
W: Bailey (3-5) L: Taillon (6-5)
FanGraphs Win Probability | Box Score

The Good
–Lots of offensive stars for the Redlegs tonight. Billy Hamilton had a triple, a homer, 3 RBI and two runs scored. Jose Peraza had three hits, including a double and a run scored.

Joey Votto, Adam Duvall (double, run scored) and Scooter Gennett (double, RBI) each had two hits. Eugenio Suarez hit his 17th home run to go along with a walk and a sac fly. Tucker Barnhart had a hit, a walk, an RBI, and a run scored.

–Jesse Winker got the start and hit in the #2 spot. He walked in his first at-bat, then blasted his first big league home run in the fourth inning. You have to watch the video; as Winker came back to the dugout after the homer, his Reds teammates gave him the silent treatment. Winker’s reaction is pretty funny.

Later, Winker very nearly hit his second MLB homer, an opposite-field shot that was robbed by Pittsburgh left fielder Starling Marte.

Winker also made a couple of nice plays defensively in right field. All in all, an excellent night for the kid.

–Nice start by Homer Bailey: six innings, one run allowed on four hits. I’ll take it.

–Hamilton led off the game with a triple, because he’s really fast. Winker followed with a walk and Votto hit a ground ball that scored Hamilton.

The Reds were just getting started, as they scored four runs in the second inning. With one out, Jose Peraza doubled and scored when Tucker Barnhart singled to center. After a Homer Bailey sac bunt, Hamilton drilled a line-drive home run over the right field fence to give the Reds a 5-1 lead that they would never relinquish.

–Blake Wood, Drew Storen, and Kevin Shackelford each pitched scoreless innings of relief.

The Bad
–Nothing to see here, move along.

Not-So-Random Thoughts
–That’s a two-game winning streak for the ol’ Redlegs! Let the pennant race begin.

–The Reds OWN the Pirates, having won seven of eight this season. That’s the best they’ve done since starting 10-1 against Pittsburgh all the way back in 1986.

–“Benching” Peraza might have been the best thing that ever happened to the kid. He’s been much better in the second half.

–I’ve kinda been waiting for either Scott Schebler or Adam Duvall to falter, or for one of them to get injured, in order to permit Winker to get his chance. With Schebler going on the DL, Winker has his opportunity now. Will he grab it and never let go? Tonight was a good start.

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31 thoughts on “Recap: Reds hammer Pirates, extend winning streak to two games

  1. Couldn’t watch the game but just saw the video of Jesse’s and Billy’s homers. Both looked to be hit well. What did Billy tweak making that catch?

    • seems like all I heard last 2 months, this team is not set to be competitive until 2019 or 2020

  2. I was at the game. So I’m saying this without benefit of replay or a great angle on home plate or hearing comments from broadcasters. And basing it on the radar gun readings at the stadium.

    Homer Bailey’s fastball velocity was down quite a bit from previous games. It was 90-91 most of the night. He hit 94 a few times and nothing above that. He also struggled with consistency on his breaking balls. That said, he did a good job pitching without his best stuff. He and Tucker Barnhart, particularly in the third inning, seemed to be trying to figure out how to go about getting hitters out. I guess they eventually did.

    • Homer’s postgame comments were consistent with your observations. He wasn’t happy with how he pitched and gave Tucker credit for getting him thru the 6 innings.
      Hopefully just one night where he didn’t have his best stuff/command.

      • Homer’s post-game comments were insightful. No, he wasn’t happy with his pitching. He said a couple of times, “you guys need to be talking to the offense and Jesse Winker tonight.”
        The comments he had about Tucker Barnhart were just glowing. He gave a lot of credit to Barnhart for getting him through those 6 innings. I think it is safe to say that Barnhart has cemented his spot at C. He is no doubt the #1 Catcher, which will leave for an interesting winter for Mesoraco. However, Mes is going to need some playing time too, to show he is fully/mostly recovered. I don’t see the Reds having a $13M C/DH sitting 70% of the time in 2018.
        Mesoraco could be a perfect August trade candidate that could get through waivers first.

    • Steve, how does PNC Park compare to Great American Ballpark.With PNC Park, it looks like you have a view of downtown Pittsburgh in the outfield? Also, do you walk across that bridge I see behind the park (in back of the outfield) to get to the game?

      • I lived in Pittsburgh for several years and took in more reds-pirates games then I can caught. It is the only thing I miss about Pittsburgh. The stadium is amazing and in my opinion there is no comparison between GABP and PNC. Great view of the city and yes you can walk across the bridge to get to the ballpark but there is parking closer to the stadium. I would recommend taking in a game there.

        • Both GABP and PNC, in my mind, are fine venues with both being near the center city, but PNC wins out with a great view of the Pittsburgh skyline. Cincinnati has a great skyline also but only a small part of it is shown through the gap. A better location for GABP would have been where the Bengals stadium is since the skyline would probably have been in view from the outfield. But there was much pressure at the time to keep the football team in town so the Bengals got the better location. Another possible location for the Reds stadium was Broadway Commons with a view of Mt. Adams which was turned down by the voters.

          • I think the better spot would have been right where it is at, but turned so that home plate is where left field is now. That way, the outfield view would be the historic Roebling Bridge instead of just the hills of Kentucky.
            Also, the batter’s eye building has always been an eyesore in my opinion. Get rid of it and install real grass/bushes and a grass/ivy wall for the batter’s eye.

  3. Homer’s velocity has me very concerned. Yes the stat line was good, but dropped velocity is almost always the first sign something isn’t right

    • Not sure why Iglesias or Lorenzen wont even be considered for starts this season and you keep putting Bailey out there- seems like a reliever might best suit him given how many injuries since 2013

      • I think he would be perfect in the bullpen too. Except you don’t want to be giving a bullpen guy 20 million/per right?

  4. Price has said that even after Schebler returns, Winker will get regular playing time. Four regular OFers is not a bad thing, it’s depth. Rotate based on pitching matchups.

  5. Did anybody catch the pregame show on radio on Tuesday. I think it was a clip from Dick Williams, talking about Tony Cingrani. He said that the more time went on, the less interested Cingrani seemed to become in throwing anything besides the fastball. The sentiment is hardly a surprise, but I guess I was surprised Williams was so direct about it.

    • It’ll be interesting to follow Cingrani’s career going forward. Several times Toni & the Reds brass have been at odds over his lack of breaking stuff to go with his fastball. If Toni continues to struggle, then that’s that, but of he finds success elsewhere then that will look bad on the Jocketty/Baker/ Price / Williams regime. I believe the Reds left a lot in Toni’s tank.

      • Just curious if anyone knows if he threw a lot more breaking balls in 2013 when he had some solid starts or was it always so fastball heavy? Not a Dusty Baker fan but not sure how he can be to blame if Cingrani succeeds elsewhere

    • Playing devil’s advocate, the other side of this coin could be that Cingrani understood in a way that only he could what throwing breaking pitches did to his shoulder and decided to ride his best horse as hard and far as possible to maximize his his income before the shoulder went away.

      Cingrani will have made around $3.5M for his MLB career at the end of this season with more than half of that amount coming in 2017, his first arbitration influenced season. If he can manage to pull down an arbitration influenced salary in 2018 (as opposed to being nontendered), he will come close to doubling that career earnings figure in 2018.

    • I became disinterested in Tony C when he was asked when rehabbing in the minors. “What things are you working on while down here?” Tony’s response was, “I don’t think I need to work on anything, I’m just down here until I get healthy.”

    • The problem has been facing lefties. Scooter and Tucker have never hit lefties and Billy has had a bad yr vs lefties. Mesoraco could help but he’s always hurt or Price just writes Barnhart in the lineup anyway? Senzel should help but they need a platoon partner for Scooter and possibly WInker/Schebler?

      • Suarez and Duvall have hit lefties better than right-handers in their careers. Votto has been better facing right-handers but still owns a 145 wRC+ against lefties. Mesoraco’s career 117 wRC+ against left-handed pitchers, as you said, would also help if he can stay healthy. I don’t know where to find minor-league splits for Senzel, but since he bats right-handed I would not expect him to have trouble hitting left-handers. Does anyone have stats on how Winker has done in his minor-league career against left-handers? Agree that Hamilton, Scooter and Barnhart are potential liabilities against lefties. Peraza has been equally bad no matter the handedness of the pitcher so far.

        If we’re optimistic though and assume Senzel is at 3B, with Suarez at SS and Mesoraco behind the plate then we’re really only concerned Peraza or Scooter at 2B against left-handers (and maybe Winker in the outfield).

        If Senzel isn’t as advertised and Mesoraco can’t stay healthy or Suarez can’t handle moving back to SS then its a different conversation.

  6. Was watching the condensed game on MLB the day after – saw Votto hit that home run… no wait, that isn’t Votto. That was Winker! At first glance their swings are similar. Jesse looks great in the 2-hole – solid contact all night and he played well in RF.

    If we can get some pitching down the stretch, I believe we can make a push into the top half of NL Central!

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