The Cincinnati Reds (41-57) kickoff a 10-game road trip with a single game in Cleveland (51-45) to make up for the May 25th rain out. The Reds still wish the division race was still as close today as it was when these two teams last met. At that time, the Reds were in 4th place but at 22-24 just three games out of first place. Today the Reds find themselves in last place and 10.5 games behind the Chicago Cubs, who just won eight of their last ten.

The Cleveland Indians dropped two of three against Cincinnati in May and were 2nd in their division when tonight’s game was originally scheduled to take place. They currently hold a 1.5 game division lead over the Kansas City Royals and have been in the top spot every day since June 26th.


Tim Adleman 4.96 5.62 2.1 8.9% 21.8%
Josh Tomlin 5.74 4.28 1.5 2.6% 17.6%

After five straight starts of five innings or less, Tim Adleman went six innings (3 runs, 0 walks, 7 strikeouts) last week against Arizona. He allowed another homerun in that game, which pushed his homerun allowed streak to 10 consecutive games. He’s allowed 15 homers in 54.1 innings over those 10 games.

Cleveland’s Josh Tomlin is also prone to the longball, although his exceptionally low walk rate helps limit the damage. Tomlin had a streak similar to Adleman’s end on July 1. His last two starts have been seven innings each with no homeruns allowed, zero walks, 10 hits and 11 strikeouts. He did pitch against Cincinnati earlier this season, allowing five runs in 6.1 innings.


1. Billy Hamilton (CF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
5. Scooter Gennett (DH)
6. Devin Mesoraco (C)
7. Scott Schebler (RF)
8. Patrick Kivlehan (LF)
9. Jose Peraza (2B)
1. Bradley Zimmer (CF)
2. Francisco Lindor (SS)
3. Michael Brantley (LF)
4. Edwin Encarnacion (DH)
5. Jose Ramirez (2B)
6. Carlos Santana (1B)
7. Giovanny Urshela (3B)
8. Abraham Almonte (RF)
9. Roberto Perez (C)



The Reds offense came through in a win yesterday afternoon, and I feel like they’re going to need that kind of output again tonight to give Adleman some room to work.


86 Responses

  1. VaRedsFan

    Leadoff single wiped out by the DP. Zach hit it too good

  2. james garrett

    I am not sure but I think this is the first time I have ever seen the alternating of left hand hitter then right actually go all the way from the leadoff guy to the 9th place hitter.I rarely notice that because I never fully understand why managers do it.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I believe it’s to reduce the effectiveness of a lefthanded or righthanded relief pitcher late in a game. The thinking, I believe, is that a lefty specialist (such as Andrew Miller) would be less effective against lefties with a righty squeezed in there than against three straight lefties. Someone who may know better, please jump in.

      • vegastypo

        I think that is exactly the reason, and I also think it’s overrated. A few years ago, the Reds’ best hitters were Choo, Votto and Bruce, but Dusty kept sticking right-handed batters between them, gave right-hand pitchers a big break.

  3. VaRedsFan

    Indians are off and running. Double of the wall ans a bunt single

  4. james garrett

    OOPS I am wrong on that because of the 8 and 9 hitters.

  5. VaRedsFan

    Nice play by Billy throwing a strike to 1st base to double off Lindor

  6. VaRedsFan

    Could be in for a long night. They are tattooing Adelman. Escaped with only 1 run.

  7. james garrett

    Billy’s defense saved us because a big inning was in the making.

  8. james garrett

    Mes looks lost at the plate.Wonder if he should have got a few more at bats at Louisville?

  9. james garrett

    Both teams swinging early in the count and putting the ball in play.Let see which pitcher can survive with both teams being so aggressive.

  10. james garrett

    Tomlin strikes out the side and now 4 in a row.Faced the minimum through 3 but that second time through the line up is coming up.

  11. bouwills

    I believe that inning puts TA in the top 50 (# of strikeouts this season)

  12. james garrett

    Aldeman returns the favor and strikes out the side also.Goodness,

  13. Indy Red Man

    Reds pitching has been so horrible that it overshadows the fact that the offense isn’t very good either? Not to be overly negative but Suarez, Duvall, Schebler, and Scooter came by trade. Votto and Cozart are over 30, so what hitters have they developed in the last 5 years? Mesoraco, Billy, and Barnhart….that’s it? Lville is awful and has nobody except Winker. Winker might be an average major league OFer at best. Senzel looks good but any idiot could draft a good player with the #2 pick? What are they doing in the minors…besides paying millions to Cuban shortstops that can’t hit their way out of single A? Depressing?

    • Indy Red Man

      They just signed Scooter….but that’s not the point

    • old-school

      You are correct….but only 11% of players drafted sniff the majors and a low percentage of those are stars. The Reds outfield is set for several years unless they trade someone to get better. The infield has 3/4 spots set for years in Suarez and Senzel and Votto and the catching situation is settled through at least 2018. Stephenson was to be the answer after that as a #1 pick, who knows now but that’s not because of poor planning or drafting.
      Inserting Senzel a year from now and Winker ASAP makes the offense very good. They will take a step back when/if Cozart leaves. AA/AAA seems to be a huge filter. I am more encouraged now more than 3 months ago.

  14. james garrett

    Our overall player development is in fact terrible and I don’t know if we have made any personnel changes in that area.You would think that would be where the main focus would be

  15. james garrett

    Tomlin strikes out 6 in a row.He is making us look really bad right now

  16. Preach


    Gotta keep playing this guy

  17. james garrett

    Maybe that will get us going.Scooter has been a great pick up.

  18. james garrett

    Nope Scooter got us even but the other guys got in a hurry to get back in the dugout and they made it.

  19. james garrett

    I agree that Senzel and Winker will make the offense better if for no other reason they get on base at a high rate.

  20. Indy Red Man

    Grasping at straws here but Alex Blandino is having a good year offensively with .829 ops (.371 obp). They could bring him up and give him some playing time. Play Scooter in the outfield if needed….its not like Schebler is hitting.

  21. james garrett

    Two walks and a double by the catcher batting ninth with a .185 average kind of is the way our year has gone,

  22. Indy Red Man

    There you go Adleman fans! Can’t put away a 9 hitter with a lifetime .212 average? We tie the game and get a little momentum so of course he walks their leadoff hitter. 3-4 runs, 5 innings….that’s all he’s good for.

  23. Indy Red Man

    On pace to lose 95 games. I’m going to say 75-87 next year. They’re nowhere close in any phase of the game. Aug 31…college football time!!

  24. Preach

    Didn’t think that had enough.

    Zach attack!!

  25. VaRedsFan

    Jim Day doing a Billy impression on the Indians broadcast…Priceless!

  26. james garrett

    I agee about Aldeman but we are in a major offensive funk.Tomlin has an era of almost 6 and he is just saying here it is and we can’t hit it.

  27. VaRedsFan

    Indians have gotten both of their runners home from 3rd base with less than 2 outs….must be nice

  28. james garrett

    Of course we just hit 3 balls pretty good but we just seem to be trying to hard.Must lead the league in solo homers too.

  29. Indy Red Man

    They’re already short on offense. They really need to keep Cozart but he’ll prob want 3 years and that’s really risky? They have no replacements unless they can get Suarez to move back to short. I think Senzel is good enough that they could pull a Kris Bryant on him and just leave him in Lville for the first 2 weeks and then bring him up.

  30. BigRedMike

    Not that it matters, but, why is Adleman still in the game in the 7th inning?

    • VaRedsFan

      Next question might be, why is Wood entering into a 4-2 game, with a runner on?

      • msanmoore

        Color me baffled on both accounts.

      • J

        Everyone knows the best way to rebuild a team is to make sure the guys who definitely aren’t very good get plenty of opportunities to lose games.

      • Jack

        Because wood adds the gas to the fire that Adleman left.

      • VaRedsFan

        Immediately gives up a hit…and then walks the .200 hitter

  31. msanmoore

    And it’s beginning to look like a dumpster fire … Adleman was not Adequateman tonight. Those 2 extra runs the Whahoos have over us are the walks he gave up.

    • VaRedsFan

      He was adequate until Price put him back out for the 7th. 6 innings 3 runs, has now turned into 6 innings 5 runs

      • msanmoore

        True enough … that was pressing the luck more than a little. So close yet so far tonight.

      • Jack

        Adleman usually gets 5 innings 5 runs. Got an extra inning out of him today.

  32. Indy Red Man

    3-2 game in the 7th….what does Price do? Well lets leave Adleman in because he often goes more then 6. Of course they score on him so lets put Wood into a 4-2 game because he’s been so good lately.

    Price is a #$&*$($+(*&’n idiot…plain and simple

    • vegastypo

      Anybody who thinks Price is playing to win could cite this game as an example of the opposite. Of course, losing with veterans whom we likely won’t see again after this year doesn’t seem to serve much purpose, either.

    • BigRedMike

      The Adleman decision is interesting. Already at 100 pitches and not exactly a dominate pitcher.

      At least Wood got out of that without much damage

      • Jack

        1 run was damage. It’s like saying well only half the house burned down. Wood blows period.

  33. kywhi

    I would be just a wee bit happier if I knew that somehow this would be the last time I had to endure watching Blake Wood pitch for the Cincinnati Reds.

  34. BigRedMike

    Infield in? Would have been a double play, possibly.

  35. J

    Can anyone come up with a good reason for Price to still be managing this team? Who’s benefiting from this? Does Price even want to be manager at this point?

    • old-school

      This year is over. I would keep Price for another month as firing him now and naming Riggleman interim manager doesn’t solve anything. The rosters expand in September and that’s when a new course and a new mandate matter. Jesse Winker plays every day. The young pitchers get every opportunity. Its September sorting for spring training in 2018.

      • J

        True, nothing will be “solved” just by firing Price. But it seems that one of Price’s biggest problems is that he manages as if winning isn’t really the goal. There’s no sense of urgency. Consistency and predictability seem to be valued more than sound strategy and adapting to what’s actually going on. By keeping him, it feels as if the organization is endorsing his approach. Waiting until the end of the year is equivalent to sending Adleman out for the 7th inning. It’s this sort of “meh — let’s see what happens if we keep doing what we’ve been doing” attitude. Other organizations are far more willing to make changes when things aren’t going well, especially when it’s the same mistakes over and over and over, and I think it sends a good message.

  36. msanmoore

    “Only” down 5-2 … happy it isn’t a lot more, but it feels like we’re mailing this in right now. At least we get to watch Aaron Judge bat a few times over the next set of games.

    • VaRedsFan

      They should make all 3 games Batting Helmet Nights

    • Jack

      I think they should activate Arroyo for the Yankee series. Just to see how far judge can tee off his pitches.

  37. VaRedsFan

    The Reds are involved in plenty enough blowouts that Wood doesn’t have to come into a 2 run game

  38. msanmoore

    Good night Redleg Nation … We’ll catch up in NYC.

  39. VaRedsFan

    Cingrani and Wood in the same close game. And they thought Pete gambled on games?

    • msanmoore

      Peter Edward only bet to win. Can’t say the same about both of them in this game.

  40. vegastypo

    And another batter who homers twice in the same game against the Reds. Is there a record for that sort of thing? …

    I wonder if the Reds could get anything in a trade for Cingrani.

  41. Jack

    Pretty sure you couldn’t give Cingrani away at this point. Adleman, Wood and Cingrani. If you told me at the beginning of the game all 3 would pitch, I would say how bad are they getting beat?

    • old-school

      Exactly….Price is focusing on his winning percentage…He got a good outing from Romano yesterday…then pulled him an inning early and pulled Lorenzen an inning early and went with Iglesias for 2 innings. Price knew he would probably lose today….so guarantee the win yesterday by burning Lorenzen and Iglesias and get Romano out after 6.

  42. james garrett

    WOW.I had to leave for awhle and what happens Price isn’t satisfied with being down 3-2 and sends Aldeman back out for the 7th with Wood warming in the pen.Hey works for me I mean down 5-2 pretty well means it over so won’t have to worry about extra innings.I don’t think anybody would believe Price is trying to win after that exhibition of cluelessness.I am not sure if that is a word but you get my point.

  43. james garrett

    Old School you are giving Price way to much credit from knowing anything about managing a baseball team.

    • old-school

      He had a 5 run lead yesterday after 6 innings and cashed in his chips yesterday.
      Went to the pool today and got a nice cold drink.

    • Steve Mancuso

      Was wondering exactly the same thing.

    • old-school

      Kivlehan played the LF and Winker sat in a dugout in Syracuse and watched it rain. What are you suggesting?

  44. james garrett

    The correct answer is we lost a baseball game.They beat us by throwing only 115 pitches in 9 innings which is 13 per inning but worse then that they plunked Joey on an 0-2 pitch in the ninth just for good measure.

  45. james garrett

    Va Red your posts are hilarious.I laughed so hard at the Pete comment and the blow out comment the wife had to come and see if I was ok.

    • VaRedsFan

      Sometimes we need to laugh, just to get through another rough season

  46. Indy Red Man

    In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

    The Reds are doing NOTHING this year. Price doesn’t manage to win and they’re not pushing the rebuild either?