2017 Reds / Game Thread

Reds vs. Dodgers — June 16, 2017

Coming off a disastrous 0-6 West Coast road trip, the Cincinnati Reds return to Great American Ball Park for a weekend series with the Los Angeles Dodgers. First pitch is set for 7:10 P.M. ET.

This is the second consecutive weekend series with Los Angeles. The Dodgers swept the Reds last weekend, and continued their winning ways in Cleveland, taking two of three from the Tribe. It’ll be a tough task again for the Reds bats, as the Dodgers remain atop the National League in nearly every pitching category.

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA xFIP K% BB%
Tim Adleman 58.0 4.34 4.85 21.0% 8.4%
Alex Wood 53.2 2.01 2.42 31.2% 7.0%

It’s hard to believe a pitcher with an ERA over four and a FIP of 5.01 has been the most consistent pitcher in the starting rotation, but that’s exactly where the Reds are right now. Adleman hasn’t had a bad start since his May 20 start against the Colorado Rockies when he gave up six runs in 4.2 innings. Adleman has given up 11 home runs, but has also struck out a respectable 50 batters in 58 innings.

Wood returned from a shoulder injury last Saturday to give up three runs on five hits against the Reds. He struck out seven and did not walk a batter. But it’s not just against the Reds that he has been successful. With a sparkling 2.01 ERA and 1.88 FIP, Wood has added to the Dodgers’ already excellent starting rotation in his second season with the team. He does it by forcing ground balls. Wood’s always been a ground ball pitcher, but in 2017, his 69.2 GB% is nearly 20 points higher than a year ago.

Bullpens

The Reds had a much-needed off day Thursday, so the bullpen should be well-rested going into tonight’s game.

The only reliever likely not available for the Dodgers is Chris Hatcher, who went two innings in the 12-5 loss at Cleveland Thursday. The Dodgers also sent Ross Stripling down to AAA after the loss yesterday.

Lineups

Dodgers                                                         Reds

1. Chase Utley (2B)
2. Corey Seager (SS)
3. Justin Turner (3B)
4. Cody Bellinger (1B)
5. Chris Taylor (LF)
6. Yasmani Grandal (C)
7. Joc Pederson (CF)
8. Yasiel Puig (RF)
9. Alex Wood (P)
1. Billy Hamilton (CF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Adam Duvall (LF)
5. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
6. Scott Schebler (RF)
7. Jose Peraza (2B)
8. Devin Mesoraco (C)
9. Tim Adleman (P)

Dodgers shortstop Corey Seager had just four hits against the Reds in LA last weekend, but two of those four hits were game-winners, with one being a walk-off home run and the other being a grand slam in the eighth inning off Raisel Iglesias last Sunday.

Joey Votto will try to extend his nine-game hitting streak and push his batting average even further above .300.

News and Notes

How can you not love Joseph Daniel Votto after watching this interview?

This is a cool story. Scooter Gennett kept his word.

Final Thoughts

The Reds were at a high point of the season after sweeping division rival St. Louis in four games early last week. But as is usually the case with the Reds, the West Coast brought everyone back to reality. This team is still flawed, and even the San Diego Padres, with their bottom-of-the-league hitting, exposed the pitching problems.

If there’s any good news, it’s that the Reds play much better at home, with a record of 19-15. Most of the players from the Big Red Machine will be in town for the Pete Rose statue unveiling on Saturday, so hopefully it will provide some good vibes for the Reds this weekend.

58 thoughts on “Reds vs. Dodgers — June 16, 2017

  1. This is so weird. I posted on this thread yet it landed on the previous thread. I’m sure it can’t be my fault.

    I find it hard to believe there is no Internet in Canada. Perhaps this explains, though Drake’s problem with his cellular telephone. Where is Mackenzie King when you need him?

  2. Finnegan pitches tonight for the Blue Wahoos. One more week if all goes well before Bailey and Finnegan are again members of the 25-man roster and pitching while wearing the wishbone C.

    • By tonight, I mean right now. The game started at 5:30 EST this evening. The interesting aspect of Finnegan’s start is he’s facing Martin Prado & Adeiny Hechavarria who are also on rehab assignment.

    • Finnegan strikes out the side in the 3rd inning and is perfect through 3 IP. Finnegan has not had a ball leave the infield. Oh, the Blue Wahoos are up 2-0.

    • Finnegan’s day is done after 4 IP. He gave up a hard double to Prado in the 4th but finished with 1-H, 4-SO, 0-BB & 0-R. He left the game with the Blue Wahoos leading 3-0.

    • I was just going to update Finnegan’s progress in the Blue Wahoos’ game tonight, but Blandino just blasted a 3-run HR. The man is unconscious right now. Move him up to AAA ASAP!!!

    • Good for him! Think of all the time he must have. Maybe that’s why he can devote his attention to destroying baseballs.

  3. I’m glad to know the fastest guy on the team will continue leading off no matter what. As the old adage goes: “If you’re the fastest, you should get the most at-bats.” That’s how the old adage goes, right? I’m sure it must.

  4. I’ve seen enough…Joey Votto is the best reds hitter of all time. Sorry Frank…Sorry pete.

    He’s in the conversation for top 5 hitter of this decade.

        • When Rose was at the point Votto now is in number of career at-bats, Votto has 11 more hits than Rose, and over twice as many walks. Calling Votto “…a vastly superior hitter…” may not be warranted (yet).

  5. Peraza? Gets himself out on a pitchers pitch then gets picked off. This team? We won’t get the 2nd pick again but it won’t be for lack of effort. Atleast a top 5-6 pick is highly likely

  6. Yayyy, another fastball = GR double for Peterson. So much for lessons learned

  7. Alex Wood. 36 pitches in 3 innings. I feel like this happens a lot to the Reds. They sure face a lot of efficient pitchers. Or………

    • The goal at this point seems to be to put the ball in play as quickly as possible and hope for the best. (As the Dodgers leadoff hitter draws a walk, because they’re actually trying to maximize their chances of winning.)

  8. Cozart .222 in June. They’re in a tough spot with him imo. They won’t get much in a trade and I really doubt he’s going to get a big 4 yr deal from anyone….at his age and with his past injury issues. I do think the fact that he’s drawing walks will continue somewhat now that he has more patience. I would think the Reds could possibly resign him for 3 yrs at a reasonable price but who knows? Even if they could & would….great chance it would be a mistake?

    • I have memories of the last time they re-signed an aging SS to one last contract. I loved Barry Larkin, but man, those were 3 tough years. We’ve got enough prospects, and any team trading for Cozart is going to expect him to come back to earth, that I think it just makes too much sense to trade him for whatever we can get when contending teams needs solidify over the next month.

      • Larkin was old though….he still had a .901 ops at 34. Cozart turns 32 in August. He could easily 2-3 years of .275, 15 hr, low 800 ops baseball in front of him. Or he could get hurt and miss more time then he plays?

  9. Just tuned in to see we are facing another very efficient pitcher.Aldeman hanging in there but has thrown 40 more pitches then their guy through 5 innings.Looks like along with our pitching issue we have hitting issues as well.

  10. The long, slow process of watching Zach Cozart reverting back to Zach Cozart.

    • It definitely looks like it although he did throw out a guy at the plate. I know one thing….don’t trust Peraza whatsoever to play as well as Zack in the next few years.

      • I’m sure there was a time that Dave Concepcion wasn’t trusted to be as good as Woody Woodward…..or Cozart to be as good as Cabrera. Peraza is still an absolute wild card.

  11. Wood wasn’t put into LA’s rotation til the end of April. Sometimes teams just don’t know what they have? I’ve always liked him….atleast fantasy wise with his weird delivery and pitching in a top pitchers park. If Finnegan could mature like him then maybe the Reds could put together a decent rotation at some point?

  12. The Dodgers are demonstrating the value of not swinging at every close pitch. Certain players on certain teams might want to pay some attention to that.

  13. He also has been on base twice and drove in a run.We have had 3 base runners.Guess he beat us all by himself.Seven in a row with Kershaw still to come.

  14. We have walked 4 times as a team in the last 3 games soon to be 4.Being aggressive is catching up with us.Eight runs in the soon to be last 4 games may be a signal a different approach at the plate may be needed

  15. Billy 6 for his last 53 and Cozy 0 for his last 17 doesn’t look promising as we go to the ninth.

    • Present.

      The wheels are falling off the Reds season.

      If Wojo and the bats can’t stop the slide tomorrow afternoon, it’s Kershaw on Sunday (vs.Arroyo) and very possibly a 9-game losing streak.

      The Dodgers just have a higher class of player right now at most positions. It’s tough scheduling to play them for basically a week in a row.

      But, it shows just how far this team still has to go to truly contend.

  16. Wow, Jansen was dealing. 9 pitches, 3K’s, to finish the game. Tough.

    There’s a reason his ERA is less than 1.00

  17. Billy must have really upset Jensen because nine pitches and 3 K’S later its over.That dude is a bad dude.Get a hit off of him and he takes it personally.

  18. OOPS its Jansen not Jensen.Sorry dude just a slip of the finger.Actually I hit the a key but it came out as an e.Not my fault.

  19. The Reds might never win another game (lol).

    Are we done playing the LAD yet?

  20. Finnegan went 4 innings tonight and gave up 1 hit with 4 K’s and no walks.

  21. You are right SLIOTAR but it was due to happen.Bad teams lose 9-7 games and 3-1 games.Losing may be the only way to continue the sorting that needs to be done and while losing stinks getting caught in play off talk is just foolish.Homer and Finny will help stabilize the rotation but other issues are coming to the front.I have harped all year about our swinging being our only thought at the plate and its hard to argue based on where we are in runs scored but we never walk and we only seem to win when we hit homers.Our pen has been really good but can they or will they keep it up.We also continue to disregard how important getting on base really is by hitting the guy with the lowest OBP at the top of the order.The reality is we aren’t very good and there are several teams like LA that are just better then us.San Diego isn’t better then us but they sure kicked our backside.We have a long way to go but we will get there.

  22. Finnegan went 4 innings last night and gave up 1 hit with 4K’s and no walks.

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