2017 Reds

Recap: I don’t love L.A.

The Reds tried more bombs than Dresden. But a rare, bad, awful inning by Raisel Iglesias reversed the score allowing the Dodgers to sweep the series. The Reds now head south to San Diego for three games against the last-placed Padres. The Reds are 29-33.

Cincinnati Reds 7 • Los Angeles Dodgers 9 || MLB || FG || Statcast

Tim Adleman pitched five innings, giving up two earned runs. He allowed five hits, walked two and struck out four. Wandy Peralta and Austin Brice combined for two shutout innings of relief. Then Brice gave up a solo shot to Cody Bellinger in the 8th.

After walking the first three batters he faced, Raisel Iglesias grooved a first-pitch change-up that Corey Seager deposited in the right centerfield bleachers for a grand slam. It was an appearance full of “firsts in a long time” for Iglesias. More on Bryan Price’s use of the bullpen tomorrow.

It’s difficult to write that all relievers have a bad day while watching Dodgers’ closer Kenley Jansen. In 25 appearances, Jansen has struck out 43 batters without a single walk.

Joey Votto and Scott Schebler each hit home runs and are tied for the lead in that category in the National League with 18. Noteworthy that both were hit off a LH pitcher. Adam Duvall hit his 15th home run on the first pitch he saw from Hyun-Jin Ryu after sitting out two days with a stomach ailment. Schebler doubled later in the game.

Zack Cozart’s streak of 33 consecutive games getting on base came to an end. Ted Williams holds the all-time MLB record at 84 games in 1949.

Devin Mesoraco, starting his second game in a row, launched a massive bomb to left centerfield in the sixth inning for a 2-run homer. It was his fifth home run of the season and back-to-back games in a row he’s gone long. He added a double in the 8th. Mesoraco can hit the fastball. He’s definitely contributing to the offense now.

Jose Peraza had two hits and a sacrifice fly. But he also made an error in the field leading to an unearned run. “You’ve got to catch that pop-up.” (Jeff Brantley)

Billy Hamilton snapped his 0-for-17 hitless streak with an opposite field bloop single. He’s hitting below his career averages in AVG, OBP and ISO. Contrary to the opinion of some, Hamilton is not in scoring position when he’s on the bench.

Eugenio Suarez turned in a defensive gem to end the 5th inning ranging into foul territory to stab a ground ball and fire his cannon to throw CF Chris Taylor out at first base. Suarez made another nice play on a dribbler to end the 6th inning. Don’t know that I’ve ever seen as much improvement in the field from one season to the next as Suarez is demonstrating this year. Suarez also had two hits and a walk.

Brandon Finnegan pitched 3 shutout innings for AA-Pensacola this afternoon, with one walk and one strikeout. Finnegan threw 35 pitches.

52 thoughts on “Recap: I don’t love L.A.

  1. Did anyone notice that Iglesias did not get enough time to warm up? He did the same thing to Stephenson.

    • Iggy didn’t get enough time and then he lost focus very quickly. It’s unfortunate, but that’s the way it played out. I’m with Steve … I hate LA.

      • I was sitting directly next to the bullpen & they signaled to Price tha Iggy was ready. I agree it was quick but he seemed to make it through his pitch progression.

  2. That’s the worst loss since the giants won three in a row from the reds, when the reds had a 2-0 advantage going in. This loss is really disheartening. Ig had plenty of time to warm up when he gave up all of those walks.

  3. Great summary, Steve.

    There were several good things on an overall stinky day.

    Was out and listening, which always seems more agonizing during a collapse because you can’t see how bad the Reds are struggling. Marty: “And, Bronson Arroyo will get the start tomorrow in San Diego with very little help available in the bullpen.”

    (Gulp.)

  4. I’m looking forward to your bullpen article, Steve. Care to give us a sneak peek of what you’re going to be talking about?

    • “April 10: Price brings Michael Lorenzen into a game against the Pirates with bases loaded and no outs – in the bottom of the third inning – and used the reliever for three innings. Lorenzen dispatched the nine Pirates he faced in a manner reminiscent of the Darth Vader scene at the end of Rogue One.”

      • I predict that Mr. Mancuso believes that Mr. Price’s bullpen management has not grown more creative and novel as the season has progressed.

  5. For Tom Mistoff … re: “heartening”

    The very fact that we expect Iggy and the rest of the bullpen to perform well is a complete 180 from last year. I really hated to lose this one, but even the best relievers blow saves and lose games. We saw this type of meltdown with Chapman in years past.

    At least we don’t play 4 on this trip.

    • Yes, you can’t be too critical of Iglesias or Price. That may have been Iglesias’ worst relief appearance ever, but he is only human. If Price brings someone else in to face Seager and the new pitcher gives up that grand slam, Price gets skewered by everyone.

      If a game like this happens only once or twice per year for Iglesias, then you have a standout closer.

      The series was also a good barometer for how the Reds stack up against a really good team. Right now, not so well. Still some work to do.

  6. I used to cringe when the ball was hit to Suarez. Now I hope it’s hit to him. Those are words I never thought I would utter (or type).

    • My exact thoughts! In the first half of the season last year Suarez was definitely a defensive liability. He was also terrible offensively. This guy has handled being in the majors very well. Rather than go off the cliff mentally he worked hard and elevated his game. I am a big fan of Suarez.

      • Not that it probably matters but watch him in the dugout–he is engaged with all of his teammates and they reciprocate. I’m guessing he’s a good teammate on several levels. I don’t remember him choking up on the bat in the past–maybe taking a lesson or two from Votto???

    • They haven’t always been anathema to the Reds. All teams, except those in the vicinity, make west coast road trips. With the time change, going east would be tougher for those on the left coast.

  7. The cubs came out to the left coast to face the same dodgers and padres we face They (the cubs) were swept in all six games. Hope we can at least win two from the padres.

  8. Only way they win is if you walk a bunch or make errors.Iggy walked a bunch and you could see it coming.Closer rules prevailed.I just wonder if he even considered pulling him after he walked the bases full?

    • I wouldn’t say the Reds are “bad”. They’ve been beating the “bad” teams, mostly, and losing to the “good” teams. That to me screams “mediocre”, with a decent starting staff away from being “good”.

      • We are what our record says we are….which is mediocre. If the offense can hang in there until the calvary arrives (Bailey, Finnegan, et al) then maybe we can make a run or two. Maybe.

    • Except that’s not right or what happened today. More accurate: An average team was beating a good team until the average team’s best pitcher had an extremely unusual day.

      • Sometimes good players have bad days. It has happened to Hall of Fame players. That’s why baseball is a great game. Every good closer forgets the loss. Iglesias, if he is as good as we think, will forget this game and go on a nice streak over the next few weeks. The Reds are playing better than anyone expected. They do need to right the ship in San Diego. The Dodgers will be looking forward to seeing the Reds pitchers next weekend in Cincinnati but it is a chance to get even.

      • It happens. I kind of foresaw it when Brantley said we had “the hammer”, (meaning Iggy), waiting to come in the ninth.

  9. I would ask the nation to take heart in one thing: You were not at the game. I was. Awful doesn’t begin to describe it for me, considering I get to go to maybe one game a year involving the Reds, and the last three games I have seen have been heartbreakers in different ways.

    Here is one kooky story from Sunday: After Iglesias walked in the second run of the eighth inning, and as Mack Jenkins was going to the mound to give whatever piece of advice he could — I’m guessing gopher ball wasn’t in the instructions — my wife could obviously tell of my anxiety of what was to come, and, referring to the previous batter, she said, “At least he didn’t hit a home run.”

    So of course on the next pitch, Seeger hit the grand slam. The. Very. Next. Pitch.

    There is some good news, however. I was going to go to San Diego on Monday night to meet up with a Reds fan who I worked with for a few years until he separated from the job a few months ago, and he has been looking for another. He messaged me Sunday to say he found a job and would not be able to meet me Monday night. I don’t know which part thrilled me more: Hearing that my friend got a job, or NOT having to watch this team again 24 hours after that collapse!

  10. The most discouraging thing in baseball is when your closer does not successfully close. That’s why having a good closer is so important. Sometimes we take the good ones for granted. It is tough job. The lest of teams with closer issues is long….Piates, Giants, Nats, Cubs, Phils, Rangers, Orioles,

  11. While watching the late meltdown against the despised LaLa’s, it struck me for about the 100th time this year that Reds’ pitching coach Mac Jenkins seems to have this habit of consistently coming out to “settle his pitcher” a batter or two too late…after significant damage is done. I’m not smart enough to assess Jenkins’ skills as a pitching coach, but one presumed key role of that job is to PROMPTLY visit with a pitcher who is struggling or stumbling. In part to get him out of a bad rhythm, and hopefully, when it’s the key, to discuss flaws in fundamentals, such as release point, landing position, etc. I don’t see much of that from Jenkins in game conditions. I think he strolled to the mound after the 2nd walk issued by Iggy in the 8th this time if I remember right. When Iggy is walking ANYONE, the likelihood of a fundamentals flaw is high. Yesterday was just a particularly ugly example of this. A pitching coach only gets one visit per inning before a hook is necessary…so smart timing and use of those visits becomes critical. Especially for an apparently talented but still green bullpen (that isn’t used consistently!) and also for a duct tape-and-bailing wire starting rotation. (The Journey-Man’s, Ancient Bronson, and whatever-else-we-can-gin-up.) A piece of me continues to wonder if Ted Power is a better answer to that position than is Jenkins.

    • Well stated. After what Ted Power did for many years at Louisville in grooming Reds pitchers, I have also been surprised Power was not elevated to pitching coach but instead relegated to a secondary position. Indicators are increasing that change is needed in that position as well as manager.

  12. Iggy had a bad day.It happens sometimes but it usually is self inflicted because no team is going to string together 4 or 5 hits against him and come back from 4 down.Its that way with all good closers like Iggy.One of those things but in reality we should have took two out of three but it didn’t happen.We move on and with 100 games left and some starting pitchers coming back it will be fun.

  13. One good thing that was overlooked is that Mesoraco started and homered in back to back games.If he continues to contribute then we just got much better on offense.Move him up to 6th,Peraza 7th,pitcher 8th and Billy 9th and just set back and enjoy.

    • I don’t think Bryan Price has any appetite for batting anyone other than Billy or Peraza 1st.

      After all, as a pitcher and a pitching coach for his whole baseball life, someone once told him speed is what goes at the top of the order. And since he has less offensive analysis experience than many people at this website, he never questions the tradition of speed at the top.

    • Ahem. 🙂

      “Devin Mesoraco, starting his second game in a row, launched a massive bomb to left centerfield in the sixth inning for a 2-run homer. It was his fifth home run of the season and back-to-back games in a row he’s gone long. He added a double in the 8th. Mesoraco can hit the fastball. He’s definitely contributing to the offense now.”

  14. Luckily this isn’t a 9 game or 10 game west coast road trip. West coast road trips in June rarely go well and usually coincide with the Reds June swoon. June is going to be a tough month for the Reds this year. Many a Reds season has gone splat in June. That contending talk is going to have the life squeezed out of it by the Reds play this month. If the calvary is only Bailey and Finnegan, that ain’t going to be enough!
    Light at the end of the tunnel, or an on-coming freight train??
    Woooo-woooo. I hear that train coming, it’s coming around the bend. We ain’t seen that playoff sunshine, since I don’t know when. That would be since 1990.

    • 1995 was a lot of fun… The Braves ended it but the Reds beat the Dodgers in the first ever NLDS.

      +100 for the Folsom Prison Blues lyrical rewrite though.

  15. I am banking on Bailey and Finny being better then anybody we have starting right now because they have shown they are better.Of course they have to go out and do it but its reasonable to think they will.

  16. When Jim Day said that the Brewers lost and the Reds will be 2 out after this win, I cringed and thought you shouldn’t have said that Jim.

  17. Another encouraging thing is how Schebler has hit LHP this year. Historically he’s been bad against LHP and I dismissed his early performance this year as a SSS anomaly. He’s slowly proving me wrong as his performance against LHP continues and as I noted before, he has passed the eye test against LHP all year long.

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