2017 Reds / Game Thread

Reds at Dodgers — June 10, 2017

The Reds (29-31) always seem to struggle in Los Angeles, and that continued last night against the Dodgers (37-25). Things went downhill quickly, as Amir Garrett gave up a two-run home run in the first inning and was hit in the hand by a line drive in the second, forcing him from the game. Cincinnati would go on to lose 7-2.

The team will get another chance to snap their seven-game losing streak at Dodger Stadium tonight. First pitch is again set for 10:10 p.m. ET.

Starting Pitchers

Name IP ERA xFIP K% BB%
Asher Wojciechowski 14.0 4.50 5.18 21.1% 5.3%
Alex Wood 48.0 1.69 2.40 31.3% 7.8%

Following a rough first start against the Blue Jays, Asher Wojciechowski bounced back nicely against the Cardinals on Monday, tossing six innings of two-run baseball and tying a career-high with six strikeouts. The Dodgers’ offense is much stronger than the Cardinals’, however, so he’ll need to be on top of his game again.

Wojo doesn’t have dominant stuff, but he’s throwing strikes, only walking three hitters in 14 innings. Although he likely won’t stay in the rotation once Homer Bailey and Brandon Finnegan return, he’s putting himself in the conversation to stay with the team in a relief role.

This will be Wojciechowski’s first career appearance against the Dodgers.


The Dodgers are activating Alex Wood from the disabled list to start tonight’s game.

The lefty has always had high potential, but health has held him back before this year. He missed most of last season with an elbow injury from swinging a bat and started the 2017 in the LA bullpen due to the team’s enviable pitching depth. An early injury to Rich Hill opened up an opportunity for Wood, and he ran with it.

When healthy, he has been among the most dominant pitchers in baseball this season, ranking first among starters with 40+ innings in xFIP and ground-ball percentage (68.7%), second in SIERA (2.61) and FIP (1.91), third in ERA, and fourth in K%. He was named the National League pitcher of the month in May.

A lot of his success is tied to throwing harder. Fully healthy, he’s averaging 92.9 mph on his fastball this season, more than two mph faster than last year (90.3). That’s made his other pitches more effective, particularly his knuckle-curve, with which he’s getting whiffs 20 percent of the time.

Random note: Wood has an interesting connection to two current Reds players. In 2015, he was involved in a three-team, 15-player trade that sent him from the Braves to the Dodgers along with Jose Peraza and Bronson Arroyo.

Here is how Reds players have performed against Wood:

Lineups

Reds

Dodgers

2B José Peraza (64 wRC+)  2B Chase Utley (96 wRC+)
SS Zack Cozart (167 wRC+)  SS Corey Seager (125 wRC+)
1B Joey Votto (162 wRC+)  CF Chris Taylor (151 wRC+)
3B Eugenio Suárez (127 wRC+)  1B Adrian Gonzalez (81 wRC+)
CF Scott Schebler (121 wRC+)  LF Cody Bellinger (121 wRC+)
C Devin Mesoraco (100 wRC+)  C Yasmani Grandal (107 wRC+)
LF Scooter Gennett (133 wRC+)  3B Logan Forsythe (71 wRC+)
RF Patrick Kivlehan (94 wRC+)  RF Yasiel Puig (88 wRC+)
P Asher Wojciechowski (5.18 xFIP) P Alex Wood (2.40 xFIP)

— Adam Duvall (illness) is out of the Reds lineup for a second straight day.

— The struggling Billy Hamilton is getting a day off.

News and Notes

Stat of the Day

The Reds have hit 87 home runs in 60 games, putting them on pace for 235 when all is said and done. The team record is 222, set in 2005. The club has also scored 301 runs thus far, putting them on a trajectory to cross home plate 826 times this season. That would rank as the fourth-most runs scored by the team in one year since 1900, trailing only the 1999 (865), 1976 (857), and 1975 (840) squads.

Final Thoughts

Hopefully the Reds will give fans a reason to stay up late and finish watching tonight’s game. The offense will have its work cut out against Wood, so another quality start from Wojo would go a long way toward snapping the LA losing streak.

63 thoughts on “Reds at Dodgers — June 10, 2017

  1. I am relieved to see that the fastest guy in the lineup and his .289 OBP is leading off.

    • Sarcasm I hope. Yes, it is Disappointing that the lead man is the fastest guy in the lineup, regardless of his on base %.

  2. All of us know for tonight’s game you just move Peraza down to the nine hole and everybody else up one.Price is determined to give first Billy and when he sets Peraza the most at bats by hitting them lead off.Just got to give those guys who don’t get on base and in Billy’s case no power at all the most at bats.Clueless is the word that comes to mind.The data don’t lie.

    • A manager has to maximize his teams ability to make outs quickly whenever he can. 🙂 Jesse Winker says Hi! He’s now played 162 G at AAA with 675 PA 176 H 32 2B 85 BB 87 SO .306 AVG .394 OBP .388 SLG .782 OPS.

      • And with the lineup he can put on the field, that’s really sad and incompetent.

      • Assuming the Reds have a new manager for the 2018 season, how about a potential 1-6 lineup of:

        Winker
        Senzel
        Votto
        Suarez
        Schebler
        Mesoraco

        • I guess that both Cozart and Duvall are traded before 2018 in your fantasy 2018 lineup? Cozart for sure, Duvall maybe.

        • Do you think Senzel will be here in 2018? I’ll be surprised (possibly pleasantly so) if he is here sooner than mid-August/early September 2018.

  3. Let’s put a watch on Peraza to see if he ends the year with more BB or HBP. He currently has 5 of each. 🙂

    • +1.

      Kudos on noticing it.

      Maybe RLN should have a season-ending prediction contest around the All-Star Break on minor but interesting stuff like this.

  4. Peraza because of his age and some power he will do much better then Billy.Billy is in year 4 and hasn’t turned the corner yet and as Steve said trying to turn the corner 4 times gets you right back to where you started.He is right at his career OBP of 299 which is just bad for a lead of guy.Right now Peraza’s is worse.Bring up Winker and let him play every day for a couple of weeks and let him lead off.

    • If they brought up Winker now then I’m not sure how Price would find enough atbats for everyone since Scooter is in the mix too? Another option could be Schebler or a leadoff platoon w/Schebler and Peraza/Kivlehan and rest Billy more often vs lefties. Schebler could give the Reds a Charlie Blackmon look and he’s doing ok!

      As for Hunter Greene….maybe you guys in the know could help me out but if he’s such a phenom then why are the Twins expected to go for McKay or Kyle Wright? I was pretty impressed w/McKay vs Kentucky. He’s very polished with a sharp slider and good control. He hit a guy and they said that was his only hbp of the season. They’re saying he projects as a Wally Joyner type (2000 hits) hitter as well. He could be in the Reds rotation next year at some point? I don’t know how the bonuses and how their slotted, etc. How does it work if Greene doesn’t like the Reds and decides to go to UCLA? I guess we’ll all find out on Monday!

      • There are people here who know much more about this than me, but I cannot imagine they would draft Greene without a pretty solid understanding with him and his agent whether or not he will sign with the Reds, and for what amount. You can’t take a guy with the number two overall pick who doesn’t intend to sign with you.

  5. Senzel 4-5 tonight w/ 3-2B & 1-3B, 4-RBI & 4-R

    Senzel & Long have to be awaiting a promotion to AA very soon.

    • Tyler Mahle 6 ip, 0 er, 5 hits/1bb/9ks…era down to 1.54. He’s pretty much mastered AA and needs to be promoted too!

  6. This could be another tough night for the Reds. Wood looks dominant in his 1st inning.

  7. Bailey and Finnegan can’t get back soon enough. It looks like another night for a sacrificial lamb out of the bullpen. Wojo is simply getting hammered, 3-0 after 1 complete.

  8. Oh well. This one is over. The Reds just aren’t quite ready for primetime yet!

    • I used to win four or five more beers the season then I lost on the bet that the winning team would score more runs in one inning and then the losing team would score overall.

      But I didn’t win every time

  9. Twins 32-26 (59-103 last year)
    Colorado 41-23 (75-87 last year)
    Dbacks 37-26 (69-93 last year)
    Milw 33-29 (73-89 last year)

    Why not the Reds?

    • Rockies have four rookies in their rotation, some with less AA experience (senzatela) than Mahle & Castillo. Gotta pick and choose your spots, 2017 shaping up to be a down year for NL Central, making for a good time to discover what you have seasoning well in AA.

  10. If DW wants to blow the Reds up then these guys can afford Votto. Adrian Gonz has a 1 home run on the season. Duvall makes sense too of course.

  11. Oh, I’m patting myself on the back: I was one of the few that believed Scooter was going to be a great addition……

    Of course, I also thought Kirk Saarloos was the missing piece for our pitching staff….

  12. Wojo has decent stuff….he should’ve been up in late April when they looked at what little we had?

    I’m kind of worried about Suarez? His swing gets so long at times and they keep going down & in and he keeps hitting dribblers. His defense is great and he draws walks but I don’t think he’s ever going to be a really good offensive player. Hope I’m wrong….guess .270ish and 20-25 HRs isn’t bad but when he’s going good he’s spraying the ball to right with power and he looks like he could be much better then that.

    • Suarez has more WAR already this season (2.0) than he had in 159 games last season (1.7).

      He hasn’t had a HR or multi-hit game this month, so it does feel like he’s just kind of loping along.

      Actually, he is due to go on an offensive tear.

      • I guess I’m too old for this WAR stuff? I don’t get it and baseball hase more then enough stats as it is. Duvall is hitting .281 w/13 doubles, 1 triple, and 14 hrs for 1.3 WAR while Christian Yelich for instance is hitting .264 with 9 doubles and 7 hrs but has a 1.1 WAR. Obviously Yelich walks more but Duvall has 75% more xtra base hits? I don’t get it?

    • They didn’t even sign him until April 20th. You’re suggesting he be brought straight to the ML after not pitching in any kind of game for a month?

    • If he is truly polite then he should definitely thank Fields for the fastball right down heart of the plate.

  13. Tucker is a nice player but Mesoraco at the plate is just a whole different animal! Lets see if we can actually get 1 in LA now?

  14. I think Peralta is in my top 5 fav Reds now….love guys with great talent that just come out of nowhere! I will stop beating this into the ground….last time I say this for a while but he has several premium pitches and theres no reason he couldn’t start like he did in 2015.

  15. bad baserunning by votto there twice. Should have scored.
    Maybe was tired of being thrown out so much

  16. anyone want to start a petition to get Jim Day to replace THOM!
    Days is doing a great job

    • Blue Jackets messed up when they drove Jim Day off.

      Day actually interacts with the Cowboy and has a sense of humor during the broadcast. Refreshing.

  17. I hate to beat a dead horse, but sitting here watching Lorenzen pitch, I can’t help but wonder why Wojciechowski started this game over Lorenzen.

  18. Is Duvall available to pinch hit? Or is he so sick that he’s not even at the ballpark?

  19. Game summary:

    Better team finds way to win.

    Lots of fight from Reds, just couldn’t get over the hump.
    Schebler’s strikeout with 2 on, 1 out is kind of haunting.
    Does Duvall get that ball?
    Etc., etc.

    The sorting continues.

  20. I’m having a hard time thinking of any other situation in sports where the 5th or 6th best option is allowed to lose the game with the 1st best option sitting on the bench waiting for a hypothetical opportunity that never happens. It’s the equivalent of the Cavs losing a close game with LeBron on the bench for the last 5 minutes because he’s being saved in case there’s overtime. It would never happen in any other sport, but in baseball it seems to be perfectly acceptable.

    • Amen to that. Dodgers mgr used his second best arm option (first being Kershaw) while the score was tied in the ninth…. Analytics to stupid baseball people, a tied game is as high a leverage situation as one can have. You can’t get a lead if you give up a friggin’ lead…..

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