2017 Reds

Reds to sign Cuban infielder Jose Garcia

According to Baseball America’s Ben Badler, the Reds have agreed in principle to sign Cuban infielder Jose Garcia:

The Reds have an agreement in place to sign 19-year-old Cuban infielder Jose Garcia, pending a physical. It will be a minor league contract with a bonus expected to be around $5 million. Since Garcia is subject to the international bonus pools, with the 100 percent overage tax, the total tab for the Reds will be about $10 million. He’s expected to start his career in the Dominican Summer League.

Badler has a great scouting report on Garcia, which I encourage you to check out.

Our buddy Doug Gray also has his own scouting report on the newest member of the Reds organization:

I was able to speak with another source who has seen Jose Israel Garcia play and their view was quite a bit better than the other two guys that I spoke with last week. His view was more along the lines with what Jon Heyman has been reporting. Garcia’s an up-the-middle guy defensively, but a guy who has a good bat, too. He’s a physical guy already at 19. While I was told he’s not on the same level of a guy like Luis Robert, the source did say he’d rank him right there with any of the position players in the 2017 draft.

Read the entire thing.

15 thoughts on “Reds to sign Cuban infielder Jose Garcia

  1. Don’t know much about the guy, but I don’t mind them spending some money on 19-year-old athletic kids with some upside and the frame to add weight. It seems like he has some semblance of positional flexibility and has hit fairly well in youth international tournaments.

    What I think I like most is what they’ve done talent-building wise. The system is pretty stacked and is going to get another infusion of talent next week. This is, IMO, the best way to rebuild for sustained success.

  2. With Alfredo Rodriguez hitting much better at Daytona, this might be $10,000,000 that would have been better spent. To say this guy ranks with “any position player” in the upcoming draft is somebody talking out of their rear end. This is just preposterous.
    I’d take UVA OF Adam Haseley over this guy every day of the week and twice on Sunday. OF Austin Beck and OF Jordan Adell too.
    I think the Reds wanted to make some sort of splash with this signing before June 15 after whiffing mightily on Luis Robert. It is more of a guppy splash.
    This $10M would have been better used being put towards an extension or two on current players, or on a free agent this winter.
    Memo to the front office: This move is unimpressive. It must be nice to have $10M burning a hole in their pocket. No more crying poor small market franchise with this kind of drunken sailor spending.

    • Remember when Juan Duran & Yorman Rodriguez were the most exciting Int’l prospects that were ” can’t miss” types…… yeah, that worked out well.

      Just b/c AlfRod is ” hitting much better”; that needs some context. He is only .266/.307/.298. Yes, his SLG is LOWER than his OBP. That’s what happens when you only have SEVEN XBH in 50+ games. Also sports a robust 5.57/1 K/BB ratio…… that’s not good for pitchers or hitters.

      Also, I would have rather spent $10MM on this guy than $50MM on Luis Robert….. who is still just a prospect.

      • Dude, if you want context, tell us what AlfRod has done since he was moved to the leadoff spot in Daytona, around May 1. You just might be surprised, as I have a notion that you didn’t know that he had been moved up to the leadoff spot. Don’t just look at a fangraphs stat page and cherry pick a few stats. That tells a lot of the story that you are omitting. Paint the whole picture.
        When AlfRod signed, it was known that power was not a part of his game.

        • To be fair, WV, the relevant context in your example is one month’s worth of games.That’s it. It’s not even worth a mention at this point. AlfRod was acquired for his glove. I wasn’t thrilled that the Reds spent so much to get him and I still don’t see how he won’t be a liability at the plate if he can reach MLB.

          All of this is to say that using AlfRod as a reason not to acquire another very young middle IF prospect is very dubious. There are so many ways that plans will be changed and dreams will be dashed; especially when your talking about players that are years away from the big leagues. You can’t have enough prospects. And I have no problem with the team acquiring prospects who are athletic, have positional flexibility and room to grow their skill sets. This kid meets that criteria.

          And the Reds didn’t acquire this kid just because they didn’t get Luis Robert. Although the Reds were interested in that kid, the economics all along suggested that it was going to be a very long shot that the Reds could sign him. So nobody should be surprised, let alone disappointed, that they didn’t get him.

          I just wouldn’t get so worked up over this signing. There’s plenty of other things you can fret about in the organization if you wanted to.

        • .297 – His K/BB ratio goes down to 4/1 …… and that .297 is inflated by a game where he went 5-5 (only a .269 hitter since May 1, otherwise). Either way, we’re talking about small sample size and you don’t beg off of a prospect that you value – obviously or he wouldn’t have been signed – just because of other prospects that have no better or worse chance of “making it”.

    • If you can get good players, you do it regardless of position. Obviously the team scouts like Garcia, and if the excerpt from Doug Gray is correct that this guy is the equal of any position player in the upcoming draft, then it’s a great signing. If you have several great shortstop prospects in the system, then they can be used as trade bait at the right time to acquire a player at a position where you need help.

      • There is absolutely no way this guy is equal to ANY position player in the 2017 draft. If that were the case it would have cost much more than $5M, and more teams would have been involved, even if some teams couldn’t be involved because of past penalties.
        I’ll say it again, it is just preposterous. I’m not giving Mr. Doug any crap about that comment. He is just reporting. His source on the other hand is very mistaken.

        • Can you give us your personal scouting report on Jose Garcia? Would love to hear what you have seen with your own eyes that qualifies you to say the things you are saying.

          • I agree with Adam here. There is no way you can say with a straight face (or emoticon) that you’ve personally scouted Garcia and could otherwise tell us where he stacks up. The guys you mentioned aren’t any more likely to make it to the big leagues than this kid. So why get so worked up?

      • I agree. Weren’t Larkin and Stillwell coming up through the organization at the same time? That could be a template for this situation, and it worked out just fine.

    • Whoa VW. The Reds are investing in the future which is a good thing. The Reds need to improve the quality of the players they have in their system. Garcia is the last international player they can sign for more than $300K until 2020. The front office considered this the best current investment they could make. They have had scouts evaluate the player and I trust their judgement on the player and the money needed to sign him. Since you have not seen the Garcia.play I would suspend criticism for a few years when we will know what kind of results he produces.

  3. The contract gurus can correct me…but this is a one time 2017 budget cost right? The payroll is down….Ill take this over the reds prior bad veteran signings….skip…hannihan..ludwig.marlon Byrd? Those were sunk costs that added nothing 3 months after the ink dried…this could be something at least .

  4. This is a good signing IMO–you can never have too much talent and with the new rules, the Reds aren’t going to be getting much of anything internationally in the next few years. May as well take the chance and spend some cash. There won’t be an opportunity to spend it later.

    WVRedlegs, why so crabby toward the Reds FO? I don’t know that I’ve ever seen you give them credit for anything. Their moves over the last year are playing out nicely outside of starting pitching and that was decimated by injuries. Blind squirrels aren’t this lucky. Maybe they do have some people who know what they are doing?

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