2017 Reds / Game Thread

Reds vs. Braves — June 4, 2017

Yesterday didn’t go so well for the Reds. Although the offense mounted another comeback, the group missed multiple opportunities late in the game to take the lead. The bullpen held on as long as possible, but Braves first baseman Matt Adams hit a go-ahead home run in the 12th inning that proved to be the difference. Cincinnati also lost two-thirds of its starting outfield to left shoulder injuries and burned through six relievers after a short outing from veteran Scott Feldman.

The Reds (25-29) will look to right the ship today when they wrap up their three-game set with the Braves (23-30). First pitch is scheduled for 1:10 p.m. ET.

Starting Pitchers

Julio Teheran 61.2 4.82 5.34 17.3% 9.6%
Amir Garrett 45.0 6.00 4.81 18.1% 9.8%

Julio Teheran is a tough pitcher to figure out. Touted as the Braves’ top prospect for three straight years and ranked as high as No. 5 in Baseball America’s top 100, he had a lot of hype around him when he debuted in 2011 at age 20. He spent most of that year and 2012 in the minors, but made the full-time jump to the majors in 2013. He looked to be on the verge of becoming one of the top pitchers in the game through his first two seasons but hit a bump in the road in 2015, in large part due to more erratic control.

The right-hander bounced back last season, reducing his walk rate from 8.7 to 5.4 percent, but he’s regressed this year and is in the midst of his worst season in his five-year big league career. He’s seen his walks spike again to a career-worst rate, while his strikeout rate has dipped by almost five percent — his lowest K% since 2012, when he was in Triple-A. Teheran is also giving up home runs at an alarming rate, with 12 allowed on the season and seven in his last three starts (15.1 innings).

Teheran is still only 26 years old, so the Braves are hoping he can put everything together and reach his high potential.

Here are Teheran’s numbers against current Reds hitters over his career (stats courtesy of Baseball Reference):

After a brief stay on the disabled list due to hip inflammation, Amir Garrett is back in the Reds’ starting rotation. His injury may explain his struggles before going on the DL. In his last two starts, he allowed 13 runs, 12 hits, five walks, and seven home runs in nine innings. After his last outing, he let the Reds training staff know something wasn’t right with his hip and he’s had some time to recover.

Prior to those two outings, the southpaw had been rock solid in his rookie season, allowing two runs or fewer in all but one start (the 10-run disaster against the Brewers in April). With a starting rotation in shambles, the Reds are hoping Garrett can rediscover his early-season form.

This will be the first time Garrett has faced the Braves.


Braves Reds
CF Ender Inciarte (93 wRC+) 2B Jose Peraza (68 wRC+)
SS Dansby Swanson (53 wRC+) SS Zack Cozart (161 wRC+)
LF Matt Kemp (157 wRC+) 1B Joey Votto (153 wRC+)
3B Adonis Garcia (78 wRC+) LF Adam Duvall (123 wRC+)
1B Matt Adams (115 wRC+) RF Scooter Gennett (105 wRC+)
Tyler Flowers (158 wRC+) 3B Eugenio Suarez (129 wRC+)
RF Danny Santana (-5 wRC+) CF Arismendy Alcantara (55 wRC+)
2B Johan Camargo (-18 wRC+) Tucker Barnhart (75 wRC+)
P Julio Teheran (5.34 xFIP) P Amir Garrett (4.81 xFIP)

— After they both suffered left shoulder strains in yesterday’s loss, Billy Hamilton and Scott Schebler are out of the lineup.

— The struggling Eugenio Suarez is also moving down to sixth in the lineup after batting in the five hole most of the season.

— Brandon Phillips and Nick Markakis are getting the day off for Atlanta.

— That’s right; TWO Braves starters have a negative wRC+.

News and Notes

Final Thoughts

With these two pitchers on the mound today, neither a pitcher’s duel nor a barnburner are out of the question. Both have thrown the ball at times this season, and both have struggled with control and been knocked around at times, so this matchup should be interesting.

129 thoughts on “Reds vs. Braves — June 4, 2017

  1. Maybe it was the hip. Why is it that every time a Reds pitcher get’s pounded, we discover a physical ailment? That’s really the way it seems anymore.

  2. We’re just a bloop and a blast and a bloop and a blast from making this a game.

  3. Someone tell Thom Brennaman that Santana only needs a triple to hit for the cycle.

  4. Of all the rotten luck… I swear the Braves are getting all the lucky bounces. Someone on the Reds must’ve stolen Jobu’s rum while they were in Cleveland.

    • Well last inning was luck for us. I chalk it up to this is what happens when you send lousy pitching out there.

  5. Now it’s going to take a bloop and a blast and a bloop and a blast and another bloop and a blast. The worse things get, the more iterations are required.

  6. Now would be a good time for the Reds to experiment and try anything and everything they can think of with pitching, hitting, defense, lineup and AAA roster. It is not like they have to be worried about embarrassment.
    If sticking “by the book” produces this kind of performance, why not throw the book out the window?
    As in the movie Tincup Roy says “I can’t do that, it would be embarrassing!” To which Romeo replies, “How do you think you look hitting those chili peppers up Lee Jansen’s XXX? DO it, Roy!”

  7. Well I’ll be. Jim Day has actually really improved as a play-by-play “guy.” He has come a loooong way since when I last heard him. I was certainly not a fan before. Good for him. I’m sure he’s living the dream and seems to be taking advantage of the opportunity.

    • I did the same. Encouraging … yes. Heartwarming may just be indigestion, Tom.

      • 😉 Heartwarming from the standpoint that they don’t pack it in when they get down, and they get down (behind) a lot. They have heart.

  8. Braves have their issues as well. Tejeran was their Stephenson…now at 26… Can’t get thru 5 innings with 11 runs behind him

  9. Well I don’t know about you but I don’t feel so confident with Bonilla coming in. If he can hold them to a run per inning then we have a shot.

  10. The good news for the Braves is that Teheran has only throw 97 pitches so he should have plenty left. Or is that the bad news for the Braves?

    • Paraphrasing Sparky:

      “Let a bench player play long enough, and they’ll show you why they are a bench player.”

    • Teams don’t let the Scooter Gennetts go because he is good. Kind of like the people who wanted to sign him to an extension and give him 2nd base over Peraza. Clueless

  11. Thinking they are done for the day. 8 runs should be plenty to win. Unfortunately wirh the cast of losers we send out to start every ga me it isnt. With the Cards coming in with a real pitching staff we have a great chance of getting swept.

  12. Blake Wood does what he does. Gives up runs. On the positive side, Buchannan did a great job and wouldn’t have given up any runs without some bad defense behind him and a couple of lucky bounces.

    • Blake Wood was about the best in the Reds’ pen for much of last year. I think that speaks to just how bad the bullpen was a year ago, not how bad Wood is this year. Or maybe some of both.

    • They will continue to do it – cause that’s what they do.But I agree with you – pure insanity. This pitching is past atrocious.

    • He did. I think Garrett needs to go to Louisville and get himself straightened out, and Buchanan can step into his slot later this week.

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