2017 Reds / Game Thread

Reds vs. Giants — May 14, 2017

Oh, where have the Reds bats gone? After being able to score at will against the Giants last weekend, it would seem Giants pitchers have been able to figure out how to pitch to Reds batters in tough situations.

In the last two games (23 innings), the Reds have stranded 27 runners on base. They’re getting hits to get runners on base. They’re just not getting timely hits to bring those runners home.

The Reds can still salvage something from the weekend, as they try to rebound from two straight losses at 4:05 ET and earn a four game series split with the Giants.

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA xFIP K% BB%
Tim Adleman 26.1 4.44 4.03 24.3% 5.6%
Jeff Samardzija 46.1 5.44 2.86 28.7% 5.2%

Adleman might be the surprise pitcher of the staff the last two seasons. He has steadily and quietly pitched adequately. In 2016, he had a 4.00 ERA in 69.2 IP, with 20 walks and 47 strikeouts. He has already given up more than half the number of home runs (7) he gave up all of last season (13), but he is also limiting his walks and striking out batters. Adleman hasn’t been the best pitcher for the Reds, but he has been a nice addition to the team when they are trying to develop young pitchers.

The Reds missed Samardzija in the Giants rotation at GABP. The only other team Samardzija has faced more than the Reds is the Pirates. He is 2-5 with a 4.00 ERA against Cincinnati, with 81 strikeouts and 32 walks. He has allowed 10 home runs against the Reds, tied with the Brewers for most in his career.

Bullpens

Lisalverto Bonilla’s stellar eight inning performance Saturday gave the Reds bullpen a much needed day off after the 17-inning game the night before. I would expect most, if not all, of the relievers are available to pitch with an off day coming tomorrow.

Lineup

Reds                                                      Giants

1. Billy Hamilton (CF)
2. Scooter Gennett (2B)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Adam Duvall (LF)
5. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
6. Scott Schebler (RF)
7. Jose Peraza (SS)
8. Devin Mesoraco (C)
9. Tim Adleman (P)
1. Denard Span (CF)
2. Joe Panik (2B)
3. Brandon Belt (1B)
4. Buster Posey (C)
5. Brandon Crawford (SS)
6. Christian Arroyo (3B)
7. Eduardo Nunez (LF)
8. Justin Ruggiano (RF)
9. Jeff Samardzija (P)

News and Notes

Final Thoughts

Happy Mother’s Day to all of the moms out there! And thanks to those moms who supported their sons on baseball journeys so we fans can now watch them play every day!

72 thoughts on “Reds vs. Giants — May 14, 2017

  1. No Reds lineup posted yet … I’m hoping Billy is back in. Let’s take one from the Giants on our way out of town.

  2. 2 days off for Cozart. Thank the Lord we keep running Peraza out there. He looks like a deer in headlights out there.

    • Better glove option than Alcantara in my book … but I agree it appears he’d do well to head to L’Ville for a couple weeks.

  3. From C. Trent:

    Bryan Price said Amir Garrett will be back next time throught he rotation, either against the Cubs or Rockies

  4. Also a little curious about Cozart. C Trent said Cozart expects to be able to play Tuesday. That would be after three off days? Was there an injury involved?

  5. There are 5 catchers in MLB history to hit 25 HR with 80 RBI in 450 or less PA. Ours bats 8th!

    • The obvious guy to bat eighth should be Peraza, I wonder if Peraza would see even fewer strikes with the pitcher batting behind him.

  6. Wow, that second strike to Billy might have been a strike indeed, but it was a late call. Then the pitcher gets the call on a pitch just off the corner.

  7. Long day if Adleman keeps getting pitches up. Defense not off to a good start either

      • Playing the infield in during the first inning. Ground ball that gets through that would have been an easy out at normal depth. Leads to a big inning

  8. Between a pitcher giving up lasers and a defense that can’t catch a ball, this may be a very long day.

  9. Well I just can’t watch a slaughter and that’s what this looks like in the making … I’ll catch y’all around later.

  10. What are defensive metrics on schebler…he had weak arm.issurs but that improved but I don’t recall him as coming up.known as s defensive liability…hopefully just a bad few plays… He’s certainly hitting well.

  11. A pitcher’s inability to get out of the 1st. inning without being scored on is never a good omen.

  12. I just wore at the TV set. I need to take a break from baseball.

    This came in the last four games has reminded me of the 1971 Reds

  13. Mes needs to handle that throw. How in the world do they give Duvall an error? This defense is sketchy

    • I was a about to post that same question. One hop throw right on the plate and Meso muffed it. Good grief.

      • From C. Trent: …………..Asked official scorer: explanation was that Nunez wasn’t going to 2nd until ball got by Mesoraco. Throw bounced, so not on C.

  14. I blame Thom for the defensive struggles. In the top of the first he mentioned how good the reds defense had been this year.

  15. Just tuned in to see that after giving the last two games away we are literally giving this one away.We won’t waste a good pitching performance today at least.We can talk later about how bad our starter was.Of course we won’t get any offense either against another starter with a + 5 ERA.

  16. So if Adleman has to leave the rotation, who’s next? Bonilla stays and Garrett returns? And Feldman and Arroyo and … who?

  17. Going to get really ugly.We aren’t ready to compete today.Mind must be in Chicago.Can we forfeit and catch an early flight?

    • Yep. But might as well settle in because he’s going to be out there a while today.

  18. Thank gawd we don’t have to play the Giants at AT&T anymore this year.

  19. Good news is dilson Herrera 2-4 with 3 run bomb..Winker and Senzel continue solid starts. Rookie stats look ok today.

    Stephenson and Garrett will be in the starting rotation by memorial day.

  20. We will have these kind of games because of our starters that’s why you can’t waste two really really good starts like the last couple of days.These guys are just 4 or 5 inning pitchers that hope to keep you in the game at best.We got much much more then that in the first three games and have scored 6 runs in 37 innings to support their efforts.We should have won Fri/Sat and today is just another one of those days that we have seen and will see more often then not.Up to now we have competed offensively regardless of how we pitched.Not this weekend.

  21. I’d be very tempted to get Hamilton out of the game early. If he isn’t 100 percent yet, and Brantley said he was still showing signs of hurting, why risk a deeper injury now?

  22. Astin will take one for the team today which is ok.Pull Votto,Billy and Duvall and maybe Bochy will let up some and lets move on to Chicago.

  23. Votto is a true pro.He will not give up at bats at any time regardless.

  24. That guy is not even an outfielder, so of course he catches the line shot falling down. These have been a sad few days, but sometimes the baseball gods just aren’t with you.

    • Duvall hit a rocket and earlier had a great throw to home….the official score should review and remove the error…he continues to show his outfield defense

  25. Scooter is good for 1 hard hit ball a game…not saying he’s a starter ..but a nice guy to have on 25 man roster

  26. This Giants team is not as bad as their record would have you believe. They stumbled out of the gate, but now that they are healthy, they are going to start beating people.

    Shame they had to get healthy right before the Reds came to town.

    • Semardja has thrown a nice game…around the plate with good command…2 seamer that runs and a nice slider. Reds problem is starting pitching…starting pitching…starting pitching…bench is good..bullpen is good and lineup generally decent with a few holes.

  27. Jeff Samardzija is a good pitcher. That’s why the Giants paid him so well. Although contrary to what you might have heard on the TV broadcast, $90 million over 5 years isn’t anywhere near ace pay.

    Why does Samardzija have a career losing W-L record? He pitched for the 2012-14 Cubs (200-286) and the 2015 White Sox (72-86). Pitcher wins, like shortstop wins and right fielder wins, depend a lot on how good your team is.

    • I heard Tom’s comment about 20 wins under .500. I’d take samardja in a heart beat.

  28. At least the Reds win the season’s series with the Giants, 4 to 3. Votto is closing in on .300.

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