2017 Reds

Reports: Phillip Ervin getting called up

With Tony Cingrani going on the DL for an oblique strain, reports on Twitter indicate the roster spot will be filled by outfielder Phil Ervin. Sam Dykstra, reporter for MiLB had it first:

The Louisville Bats followed suit.

Nothing official from the Reds.

Check back here for updates this afternoon.

Rule Clarification: The Reds could have called Jesse Winker back to the major league team. There’s a rule that players have to spend at least 10 days back in the minor leagues after a call-up. But there’s an exception to that rule in the case where a player on the major league roster goes on the DL. So Winker could have been called up. The Reds chose Ervin over Winker.

That makes sense if this is just another couple-day move. It’s less disruptive to Winker and spreads the sitting-on-the-bench-and-not-playing around.

40 thoughts on “Reports: Phillip Ervin getting called up

  1. Give him a start. Schebler is pressing right now and just not swinging a good bat.

  2. So, going with one less bullpen arm? I kinda assumed it would be Astin coming back. We are hardly assured of long starts from Adleman, Reed and Arroyo against the Cubbies. Was also thinking the Reds would go with an extra bullpen arm as long as they could, because if they’re going to carry three catchers starting next week, when Mesoraco is activated, that has to come at the expense of a bullpen spot.

    • isn’t Bonilla still on the team, Stephenson can go long if needed has not pitched in a week, they go through those guys tonight, Bonilla gets sent down… is Rookie Davis able to come back Sat?

  3. I think all of this needless roster shuffling comes down to the Reds inability to build and manage a 12 man pitching staff. They are clueless if they don’t send Turner back to the Twins next week when Mesoraco is activated next week and try to go with three catchers

    • They are at a point that 3 catchers might not be the worst with a 5 man bench. Scooter and Alcanta can play multiple positions and any one at AAA might not be worth taking away from developmental time- assuming Turner is above replacement level

  4. Calling him up for what ???- so Price can keep the bench warm like he does with everyone else that comes up ??? Then makes no changes to the top of the order when Hamilton and Perraza couldn’t hit their way out of a soaking wet paper bag. Price remains as clueless as he was 3 years ago when he was hired.

    • Sez you. Do youbelieve that Brian Price has not changed from the first game of his first season?

      In an interview the day before yesterday Brian Price said that he is not giving up on Schebler.

      Ervin gets some major league pay and maybe two or three at bats. Fine w/me.

      • Pretty much every post by RedAlert contains the words “Brian Price” and “clueless”. I think there must be a personal history there—maybe involving wedgies?

        • Not hardly – he stinks as a manager, period ! Good pitching coach , manager not so much.

    • He could actually do much worse than Schebler. I don’t understand why so many fans seem to want to axe Schebler and we haven’t even gotten through April yet. His batting average stinks but the peripherals don’t look bad and even his traditional power counting-stats look ok for less than a month in (4 HR, 9 RBI). He only has 70 PA.

  5. Congrats Phillip ! If we have left handed pitchers coming up, I’d like him to fill in for Schebler. Maybe give Hamilton & Duvall a day off too. Winkler will be back before the all star break, but he has to get a lot of at bats.

  6. Have to remember, this year is not about winning, it is about sorting. Bringing guys like Romano up for one start, Winker and Ervin for couple of At Bats. Is all about giving them a taste of the Big Leagues, let the first time nerves get settled, see if they want more. With Schebler it is about seeing if he can play full time and so far, if we are only going by this year, the sample size is too small. Bench him now in favor of Winker or Ervin and we may find out what either of those two can do or not do, but we will never find out about Schebler. He may or may not be apart of the next Reds team but if he does put it together, he may also be a nice trade piece.

    • It is not just about Schebler, Hamilton and Peraza are doing nothing to show they are valuable in everyday line-up- Schebler is on poor streak but Reds need to find someone who can actually hit at top of order, especially if you insist batting Votto 3rd

      • Agree big dog….But gotta let Hamilton prove he can’t hit leadoff definitively so this isn’t a yearly soap opera …Where Hamilton hits on the next great Reds team is a critical question that needs to be answered objectively on the field. He needs at least 100-150 at bats.

        • To me, this is Hamilton’s last year to do that. He is on his third full season. If he can’t get it done this year I think they should bat the second best hitter 1 and Votto 2. It has looked to me like the table-setters did the exact opposite one would hope the last few games. Swing and look helpless at the plate in nearly every at bat. There are games they get me really excited, like everyone I hope, I hope, I hope… But there is no reason those two should be swinging at anything the pitcher throws immediately out of the gate. And for God’s sake if it ain’t straight and you don’t have any strikes take it anyway.

          • He is on his 4th, 2014 was not bad for 1st year, 2015 was awful on base wise but proved his worth in the field, last season improved but missed a big chunk, this season he is back to 2015 numbers after a decent start

          • .308 AAA, .292, .274, .321. That’s his OBP the last 4 seasons. The dude is not a leadoff hitter, I don’t care if you strap jets to his skinny butt, he shouldn’t be batting 1st……. EVER……

        • I agree…I have been Hamilton’s biggest critic and have no confidence in his ability to “develop” into a lead off hitter….This year he has struck.out 13% but walk rate 6%. His infield pop rate is 20%….
          So 1/3 if his at bats end in a K or strike out….But….Give him 50 more at bats to put this to rest forever

  7. Lets make this more interesting. Bring up Winker too. Have an open competition over the next 4-5 weeks for the 2 corner OF spots. Winker and Duvall in LF and Schebler and Ervin in RF. Or let it ride until the all-star break, Then make the decisions on who to start, who goes to the bench, and who gets traded.
    It isn’t just the pitching that needs sorted out. The whole OF needs sorted out this year. Do not take more OF question marks into the 2018 season. Settle them this year.

  8. I’m glad for Ervin to have the shot.
    I believe if they had used the injury loophole and brought Winker back with less than 10 days back down that he would have been granted service time for the days spent at AAA this week. This is perhaps an indication that perhaps they looking to make the double dip of an extra year of control and avoiding Super2 status for Winker?

    • You are correct that if Winker was recalled, the time he spent at AAA after he was optioned would count against his MLB service time. I like the idea of bringing up Ervin rather than Winker, especially if this is a temporary stopgap move.

  9. Does anyone who follows our minor league system actually think Ervin is ready for the show? His eye will play, but do guys batting .240 at upper levels of the minors become productive MLB players? Not a loaded question, I’m curious.

    • Not generally, no. But guys with good plate discipline have lower bust rates than guys without plate discipline.

      Ervin probably isn’t “ready” in the exact meaning of the word, but he’s probably no worse than Kivlehan or any number of other guys on big league benches.

    • Can’t find the tweet to credit or link it but but I saw it tweeted that Ervin was top 10 in his AA league last season in BB, OBP, OPS. Maybe the BA doesn’t tell the whole story on him.

  10. Perhaps there is some “drug dealer” mentality going on… get ’em a taste of what they want, and hopefully they come back for more. Meaning in baseball terms, perhaps the Reds think if they give their prospects a taste, they’ll work even harder at AAA to get better and get back with the big team.

    Not that I necessarily believe it’ll work, but at least it’s a plan.

    • I, too, think that is part of it. Small part, though Service time is a part of it too. Someone else said earlier in the thread this gives them a chance to get the heebie-jeebies out of their system before they come up for a longer period.

      And another part is what the French call “Pour encourager les autres.

  11. Part of me wants to see Ervin get a start against the Cubs in CF and RF. The lack of patience with Reds hitters has really bugged me the past couple of games. I understand the principle with balls in play having better percentages of being hits in 2016 and 2017 than previous seasons. It doesn’t work though if you are feebly swinging at pitches the pitcher wants you to swing at. They did exactly what Miley and Jiminez wanted them to do. Rough couple of games for me to watch that’s for sure, and last night was another reminder for robot umps.

    • While I believe there were some missed balls/strikes, the umpire was the same for both teams. Both teams had some very weak at-bats. You have to credit the pitching sometimes.
      That said, the Reds line-up is pressing and I’m not sure why. They looked as if they were guessing the entire night. Getting comfortable and taking what the pitcher gives you just doesn’t seem to be part of the Reds’ hitting approach. You don’t have to tear the cover off the ball in every at-bat – ask JJ Hardy. the Reds hitting coach has his work cut out for him.

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