In the wake of the Brandon Phillips trade, Bryan Price has declared that Jose Peraza is his second baseman and that Zack Cozart is not a part time player. Now, certainly, I get that Cozart needs to play until the Reds find another team for him, but handing the second base job to Peraza seems like an odd choice.

The Reds, we all know, have two major league-ready middle infield prospects. One of them is, essentially, locked in at second, and it isn’t Jose Peraza. In fact, unless you count Eugenio Suarez, Peraza is the only player in the organization who can reasonably be considered a big league shortstop once Cozart is gone. Given that — plus the fact that (a)  Dilson Herrera is a second baseman and only a second baseman, and (b) Herrera has a better bat than Peraza, and (c) Peraza was used as a super-sub last year, –the current thinking from Price makes little sense.

I started writing this post before Price’s comments, with the idea that the middle infield and outfield have an overflow of players who need regular playing time and that a reasonable rotation could be worked out. If we assume one off-day per week, on average, there are six starts available at each position. This is very much a theoretical project (especially now), but here’s how the Reds could rotate starts on a weekly basis in order to get all the major league ready players a decent amount of playing time:

SS – Cozart 4, Peraza 2
2B – Herrera 5, Peraza 1
LF – Duvall 4, Schebler 2
RF – Winker 4, Schebler 2
CF – Hamilton 5, Peraza 1

A few notes:

–Zack Cozart needs to play. He has enough value that he shouldn’t be merely cut loose and, at some point, some team will need a shortstop and the Reds will have one for them. This might happen during spring training or it might happen in May or June or July. But it will happen. He doesn’t have to play everyday to maintain his value (and there’s been talk of him needing regular rest anyway), but he does need to play most days.

Billy Hamilton probably needs rest. An extra day a week off will do him some good. Peraza could provide that, while capably playing center field.

–Speaking of Peraza, he gets the shaft in my scenario, and I suppose it’s possible that the Reds felt they mishandled him last year and are trying to avoid duplicating that mistake this year. Still, he seems a better bet than Herrera to provide value by floating around the diamond.

–The outfield is going to be interesting. The middle infield has been getting a lot of talk, but the Reds need to figure out what’s going on in the outfield as well. It’s unlikely that all three of Adam Duvall, Scott Schebler, and Jesse Winker will be producers in the long run, but there’s enough uncertainty that each needs to see regular playing time until things line out.

One thing is certain: this will all line out. Someone will get hurt. Someone won’t produce. Someone will get traded. Just wait. It happens every year.

The rotation suggested above isn’t something I think will or should endure all season. Rather, it provides sufficient playing time for all the major league-ready players while also allowing for the baseball season to work its magic and sort these guys into their permanent roles. Let the season for sorting begin.

65 Responses

  1. Yippee

    His accomplishments? 11 seasons as the starting 2B, arguably the 2nd best 2B in Reds history (yes, better even than the guy who played 2B barehanded in a deader than a doornail deadball era), a 3 time All-Star, 3 time gold glove winner, a 30-30 season, and a complete catalog of defensive gems that put him on ESPN nearly every week.

    I see you, BP! Thanks for nailing down 2B for over a decade and doing it way better than anyone expected you would. You came from CLE with low expectations and then exceeded all expectations, flashed the leather and an electric smile, played injured and showed your ability to hit all through the lineup. You will be missed at home games when you stood along the first base line and signed autographs until the umpire made you go to the dugout for the start of the game. GABP will be different without you! Hopefully someone else on the team will grow a personality and embrace the fans as you have….oh wait, Bronson Arroyo is back, we’re good! We’re together again!

    • lwblogger2

      I’ll be surprised if you don’t see something along those lines soon. You can always ask the editors directly if a piece is being worked on. You can even write your own and submit it for publishing. I’m thinking of doing that.

    • Patrick Jeter

      I wrote an article last season showing BP is the same hitter regardless of where he hit in the lineup. Interesting food-for-though, if you want to look it up.

      Perhaps that is what you meant with your comment, but the idea that he morphed his game to be a “table setter” near the top of the lineup, or a “run producer” near the middle of the lineup is false.

      • Yippee

        Well, that is one small facet of what BP brought, hitting everywhere in the lineup. I remember reading your article, and it was a good one. In terms of variety of where the Reds had placed BP in the lineup, I don’t remember any other players being asked to hit so consistently in different spots in their tenure with the Reds as he was. I am aware that it’s a myth that he produced well at every spot, but kudos to him for doing what was asked of him and pretty much no one else (Cozart gets bounced around, too).

        What I meant with my post was to shed light on BP’s career with the Reds and appreciate his 11 seasons. I was originally a little too over the top with my comment and called out RLN, which caused my post to be edited (rightfully so). So I do apologize for 1) overall tone of my comment and 2) for using the incorrect forum for voicing my displeasure with BP not getting recognized as other recently departed Reds have received.

        RLN – sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused! I love the site.

      • Nick Carrington

        I think if Phillips had been traded midseason, you would have already seen a post or two. In the offseason, not all of the writers are writing regularly. I would love to post something about Phillips. He deserves to be praised. Great player. It just may have to come next week for a variety of reasons.

      • Patrick Jeter

        Yeah, like Nick said, he was a good player for a long time and deserves to be praised and remembered for the player he was.

        For me personally, I just like when things are accurately remembered, which is what prompted me to post.

      • Carl Sayre

        I disagreed with your fine article at the time even with your numbers and still disagree to a certain degree but you have the numbers to back your theory up. I think I might have to rethink what my eye test and reasoning means! I thought that he did adjust to his position in the order and again you proved that to be false! I think it is because even though his numbers were very close in whatever spot in the line up and maybe that is what fooled the eye test. The fact that he didn’t “suffer” moving from one spot to another and that is the reason I felt he “morphed”! The fact that BP was never more than an average hitter made it easier for him to continue “average” where ever he was penciled in. The gist of this long winded rant is this he provided serviceable production where they hit him!

      • greenmtred

        Agree with you, Carl. I’m in the same boat. After trusting my eyes for so many years, it takes awhile to adjust.

    • Matt

      I like BP alot, but best in Reds history? Ever hear of a guy named Joe Morgan?

  2. WVRedlegs

    The Reds have lots of square pegs to fit into 4 square holes and 4 round holes. If they get rid of Cozart they have no SS. Though Peraza can adequately play SS, he isn’t as good as Cozart. Peraza is a 2B. What middle INF tandem looks like it would be the better solution on the field? Cozart-Peraza, Cozart-Herrera, or Peraza-Herrera? Cozart-Peraza looks to be the one, thus Price’s declaration.
    The outfield has concerns. There is no true RF with a big bat and big arm. Schebler is a LF as is Winker and Duvall.
    Some personnel changes should be in store later this year as one of Duvall, Schebler, and Winker, and one of Suarez and Herrera are probably not fits after 2017. Some of the pitching is going to end up on the outside looking in also, so Dick Williams is going to have plenty of prospects/young cost-controlled players to deal for a real SS and a stud RF before 2018 begins. And that doesn’t count sorting out the C position as another trade might be in order if catching duties are too much for Mesoraco’s hip. I hope Williams gets a jump on 2018 by using the 2017 July trade deadline as an opportunity to build for 2018 instead of thinking it is just for a 2017 playoff run. He doesn’t have to wait until the off-season to do some building if he can get a quality asset or two for 2018 and beyond.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Peraza was a shortstop with the Braves organization, but they moved him to second because they had Andrelton Simmons at shortstop at the time. I don’t have any defensive analytics to refer to, but my eyeball test from last year was that Peraza can handle shortstop pretty well. Not as well as Cozart, but there aren’t many who are as good as him defensively.

      • Scott E. Disney

        On his Baseball Reference page, it shows that Peraza has a .964 fielding percentage across all levels at 2B and .946 at SS. Of course, he has more innings at SS than 2B (~1800 innings 2B, ~2500 innings SS) but it seems to be a large sample size for both.

        Also, interesting to see that Peraza has never played SS yet at the MLB level.

      • lwblogger2

        That is incorrect about him not playing SS at the MLB level. 31 games, 29 starts, 250 Innings, .982 fld% at SS in 2016. More innings there than anywhere else on the diamond in MLB.

      • WVRedlegs

        Peraza played in 31 games, started 29, for the Reds at SS in 2016. At 2B, it was 12/7.

      • Scott E. Disney

        Yeah, sorry about that. I looked at the career totals at the bottom of the table on Fielding and for some reason does not list his SS stats here even though I clearly see it in his season by season stats just above the MLB career totals.

        However, the fielding percentages for SS and 2B should be accurate.

      • Scott E. Disney

        Also, this is on BR’s minor league page for Peraza with all of his minor league stats. His major league page does not have this error, but does not show his stats from the minor leagues that create a larger sample size.

      • lwblogger2

        Let the folks at know. They are good about going back and fixing stuff like that. Sorry if it seems people kind of piled on about the SS statistics. It looks like we all got around to replying to you at about the same time.

  3. lwblogger2

    Nice article Jason… A rotation of some sort would have made some sense and it still may work out in a similar fashion. Sometimes what the manager/coach/GM says and what really happens aren’t even remotely related.

    • droslovinia

      One thing that would have made it better is an explanation of how a guy who has never managed to hit .300 above AA has a superior bat! Who cares how nice his bat is if he hasn’t proved he knows how to use it yet?

      • big5ed

        Joey Votto never hit over .300 above AA, so he is lousy and the Reds should bench him.

      • lwblogger2

        There’s more to hitting besides batting average. He has a lot more power than Peraza and better plate discipline. He probably isn’t a guy who’s going to hit over .300 given 500 ABs but he’ll produce a solid average, get extra-base hits and perhaps up to 20 HR or so, and take his share of walks when nothing is there.

  4. Jordan Barhorst (@JordanBarhorst)

    Reminds me of an old Mike Birbiglia bit. What Bryan Price should have said…was nothing. Why commit to anything before the players are even required to report to camp? The smartest move in my eyes coming into Spring Training, knowing that what Jason said about this all lining out eventually as it always does, is to let the playing time evolve on its own.

    Its something I’ve noticed from Price in the past. I have absolutely no evidence at hand to back this up, so you know, grain of salt, but it seems as though the skipper has an incessant need to fill any vacant lineup spot immediately with a ‘starter’. Maybe this goes into the psychology aspect of the game – maybe the thinking is its better for one guy to know he’s the starter, and the other to know he’s the backup, than it is to have both guys wondering who has the upper hand. But in my opinion, having two guys splitting time evenly, or even the brilliant rotation Jason outlined above, is far more preferable to having an established starter, especially since these guys are so young.

    • jessecuster44

      Sounds like Bryan Price enjoys the idea of “Roles.” Just like Dusty did.

      Wait till May when he says “Desmond Jennings? WE GOTTA GET HIM GOING!!!”

      • RedAlert

        Exactly ! I hope Price is out the door at the end of the year – clueless as they come !

      • jessecuster44

        You insult the clueless by making that comparison!

    • lwblogger2

      Think that was roster move for picking up Ogando from waivers from the Pirates. Not as excited about that pickup than I was the Bonilla pickup.

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      Yeah, I heard that Homer wasn’t expecting not to be back on a Reds mound till June. In Homer-ese, I believe that means July, if not till after the AS break, again. I was correct last season, when they were saying May. Oh, he will be rehabbing prior to that, maybe making some minor league starts for rehabbing. But, off a Reds mound, I don’t see how till July, if not till after the AS break. I was correct last season, when people were saying May. . .

      • Steve Mancuso

        That was an amazing prediction you made about Homer’s nerve damage. Especially since no one, not even Homer, knew about it at the time. Since you were the only one who knew about it, tell us how you figured it out. Would be a good thing to know.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Well, first, given I didn’t say anything about “nerve damage”, I have no clue what you are talking about.

        Assuming what you are referring to, it’s typical with Homer, he’s always taken longer to come back from injury, especially with the Reds training/medical staff. We will see if it is any different this time. Will it? And, that staff does include Homer. Is he working too hard to get back into the rotation? Is he working enough?

  5. earmbrister

    I think an easier way of getting playing time for everyone is by starting Herrara and Winker in AAA. The Cozart situation will sort itself out soon enough; I’d be shocked if he wasn’t wearing a different uniform by July. The Reds control both Peraza and Herrara for six more years, so let Cozart play and let’s get something in return for him.

    The outfield situation is a bit murkier, but also likely to play out rather quickly. No one expected Duvall to perform so well in his first full year in LF, particularly with the glove. Now can he develop more plate discipline? Tall order, but so was the position change. Something tells me that Schebler ends up being the better offensive player. Problem is Schebler’s arm doesn’t play well in RF. Still, Duvall and Schebler need to play everyday in MLB to determine who is going to be paired with Winker in the long-term. I wouldn’t be surprised if either Duvall and Schebler were moved in July. Winker should play everyday in AAA until one of the two are traded. If Duvall stays, he becomes the RF because Winker’s arm is average at best. If Schebler stays, do the Reds make do in RF (defensively) until either Ervin or Aquino is ready?

    A season for sorting indeed.

    • JoshG

      I think it’s a pretty safe bet Herrera starts the year in AAA, and almost a slam dunk Winker does

  6. Steve

    I think in ST, you play Cozart, Suarez, Peraza and Herrera at 2B, SS and 3B. Versatility and position flexibility never hurt anyone. Peraza can also play CF. if they can prove to handle multiple positions, more power to them. The more positions that you can play, the better your chances to stay in the lineup. Think of Ben Zobrist. I think we will see players playing multiple positions in ST this year. Duvall will get time at 3B and 1B. The value of the player increases if they can play multiple positions. Same with pitchers. Swing pitchers like Adleman, Astin and Bonilla can be used in different situations. Multiple inning pitchers as well. We will see Iglesias and Lorenzen in different situations, maybe similarly to how Miller was used last season with the Indians. Higher leverage situations at any point in the game. I think utility players, swing pitchers and multiple inning relievers should be an organizational focus and we should have these types of players at every level starting from the AZL Reds and Billings.

  7. Scott E. Disney

    Anybody have an opinion on Nefi Ogando? Maybe I’m missing something, but he looks like he has a major walk problem (1:1 Walk to Strikeout). I saw he has had some type of injury but did not catch what type it was or when it happened.

    • lwblogger2

      Minor league numbers are better than his very limited MLB numbers. I don’t really know much about him at all.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        He’s someone else to bring in for an audition by using Bailey’s roster spot. Frankly, I love that they are bringing this many pitchers in for a look. What the heck is there to lose? There are more than 30 pitchers in camp, and for a team that pitched as poorly as the Reds last year, that was the right reaction by the front office. I hope they turn them all loose and may the best men win the roster spots.

  8. Hotto4Votto

    I don’t really see the need to rotate the corner OF. If someone needs a day off, Jennings can fill in, or even Peraza. Winker should start the year in AAA, at least until the Reds are able to add another year of control, but ideally until after super two cut off. Schebler and Duvall need time and consistent ABs to show what they can or cannot do. This is the time for their extended trial.

    I do think it’s a pretty simple solution to getting playing time for all involved in the infield, (and I’ve been posting this since Phillips was traded). Initially, Peraza plays 2x week at 2B and SS, and once in the OF (rotating between CF and LF). That gives Peraza 5 starts a week, Cozart 4, and Herrera 4. Cozart gets rest and his knee probably needs it. Herrera gets a day off here or there to make adjustments. Maybe some weeks Peraza gives CF and LF a day off and only fills in once for either Cozart or Herrera.

    Some sort of rotation should evolve to where all three are playing about 9-10 games every two weeks. Everyone’s rested, but also getting consistent enough ABs to get in a rhythm.

    Duvall and Schebler can alternate who gets a day off by shifting Duvall to RF every other time Peraza plays LF (which is once every other week in this scenario). The other bench players fill in if anyone else needs a rest or a platoon for a particular day.

  9. Old-school

    Dilson Herrera is playing in the WBC for Colombia…His pool is Canada.dominican republic and USA…Pool play is march 11/12/13…Looks like only 2 advance from each pool. Price implied he will be behind but I would think he should be ahead of everyone by March 20….. playing against team USA and DR…Interesting to see how he does.

  10. Pablo Robles

    Why does everyone need a spot? Only the strong survive let the best play and when they slump bring in a replacement player.

  11. bobbyhowsamjr

    The Reds rebuild is a bipolar disaster. Bryan Price is Marvin Lewis without the playoff appearances. Thank God I’m a Packer fan. This team’s rebuild won’t be complete until Marge Schott is born again.

  12. ohiojimw

    The Reds just spent $13M to move Phillips. So, with Cozart being on the market all the off season, don’t you suppose they would have spent a bundle to move him if there was any market at all for him?

    The problem is Cozart currently has no market value at all because of the injury issues he was experiencing at the end of the 2016 season. He potentially has value if he can demonstrate that 1)he is physically capable of playing regularly, 2)his production is similar to what he produced at the start of the 2016 season versus later on and 3)if a team experiences a sudden unanticipated need for a SS.

    The question for the Reds is to what degree they should side track their development plans in order to attempt to recover any return on Cozart given these factors that have to fall in place for him to generate any reasonable return. The situation is further complicated by the fact that Cozart will be under team control (Reds or any other team) only thru the end of the 2017 season which further mitigates against getting a reasonable return on him.

    It was rumored that the Reds had intended to release Phillips at the end of spring training if they had not been able to deal him. This seems to me to be a reasonable time line to also use with Cozart. Play him as much as he can play throughout spring training. All the while the Reds should do what they can to induce somebody to take him.

    However when it comes down to the 25 man roster limit deadline, if Cozart has not been moved, the Reds should go ahead and release him. Also, since one year contracts negotiated in the arbitration process are generally not guaranteed except by CBA provisions, the Reds likely would be off the hook for all but 60 days pay to Cozart in this scenario. To me this makes much more sense than waiting and hoping for a buyer and all the while slowing down the rebuild.

    • Pablo Robles

      And yet with no market value as you say he will be our opening day shortstop. What does that tell you?

      • greenmtred

        It tells you that he is returning from injury and that other teams are pretty well set at the position. If he’s healthy, he’s not a liability.

      • Simon Cowell

        Tells me that the Reds have the 30th ranked SS in baseball at the end of 2017

    • lwblogger2

      We’ve been back and forth on this some so I think we know each other feelings about keeping Cozart vs releasing him. I do want to add however that if Cozart is either ineffective or injured and ends up on the DL, then the Reds have a good baseball reason to release him or bench him (if ineffective), or DL him (if injured). In which cases the Reds have Peraza and Herrera on the field at SS and 2B respectively. It really isn’t hindering the rebuild/development of players. It more comes down to money and I feel that a player coming back in a Cozart trade, should be worth over $5-million over the team controlled years. It seems like a lot of cash now but in baseball money, it isn’t that bad and is good wagering money for hopefully a higher return.

      • big5ed

        I don’t understand why the Reds didn’t non-tender Cozart, instead of going to arbitration with him and end up being on the hook for $5 million to him. (Maybe I don’t know the rules, but I think I am right on this.)

        Assuming they trade him at mid-season, and that the new team takes all of his contract, they still will pay him $2.5 million and are unlikely to get much of a prospect in the trade. The upside they have with him would be for him to play very well such that a team in sudden need of a shortstop is willing to give up a premium prospect for him. That could happen, but is unlikely, and doesn’t seem to be a very good $2.5 million bet.

        Having said all that, I think Cozart is a well-liked glue-guy on the team and that the non-tender would have rankled the clubhouse. There is, of course, no data on the value of alleged clubhouse glue-guys.

        I think that Cozart, and not Peraza, needs to be in the Ben Zobrist/Tony Phillips role of playing all over the field, including the outfield.

      • ohiojimw

        I agree the money is the least of this situation;and, the cost only goes $5+M if the Reds end up paying out the entire contract. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if ZC ended up on the DL at some point and essentially just “faded away” as a Red which would put them on the hook for the entire tab.

        My deeper concern is that if Cozart actually performs well but the market for him simply doesn’t materialize to the Reds satisfaction, the Reds development is held hostage for up to half a season or more.

        I’d prefer a clean break; and, if they would want to hold him past opening day and pay out the entire contract as a separation bonus of sorts, I wouldn’t be terribly upset about it.

      • Old-school

        You have consistently questioned why the reds offered arbitration and should have let him walk…I agree with you…Why pay 5 million for a guy you clearly don’t want?

      • ohiojimw

        Fair point. I feel in retrospect like the Reds created something of an organizational ethics issue when they tendered Cozart because that act denied him access to the off season FA market.

        Had he been an FA in early December, he likely could have negotiated a health incentive driven deal with a number of teams. That wouldn’t be the case now because barring major injury, most teams are set.

        Would such a deal potentially topped out at $5.3M? Probably not; but, it almost certainly would have had a higher reachable ceiling than 30 or even 60 days pay (~$890K/ ~$.19M) based on the $5.3M salary.

      • ohiojimw

        In reference to my comment on 30/60 days pay, that decimal in the 60 days pay had a mind of its own. Should be $1.9M 😉

    • Scott E. Disney

      I wouldn’t cut Cozart, but I could understand benching Cozart if the Reds really want Hererra/Peraza to start the year. Cozart might be one of the best bench hitters we have had in a while and more focus could be spent on younger guys. However, if Hererra comes into ST and is very clearly outplayed by Peraza and Cozart then he should start in AAA until he knocks Cozart out of a starting job. Hopefully, this happens in ST because Herrera plays really well (not Cozart playing bad) but my bet is Herrera probably starts year in AAA.

      • Eddie

        Injuries happen. What do you think Cozart wants for his next contract? Could he stay in Cincinnati and fill in for multiple positions depending on injuries.

      • ohiojimw

        My guess would be he will be looking for starters’ money in a multi year deal. If the figures on BBRef are correct, he had made just under $7M at MLB thru the end of last year. If the entire amount of his 2017 contract gets paid out, he will be right at or just over $12M in career MLB earnings. That’s a bundle for most of us but probably not for a guy who figures to have been a 6 year starter (when not injured) at MLB.

        To date he has only played SS at MLB and played just a handful of games elsewhere back in his minor league days. I don’t think he has demonstrated the defensive versatility or the offensive consistency to draw even his 2017 salary in a “super sub” role.

  13. Steve Schoenbaechler

    I don’t see Schebler getting that much starting time, 100 games. He didn’t start that much last season. I don’t see what he did last season that would warrant starting that much.

    I believe Winker will start at least that amount. I mean, you don’t call your best hitting prospect up to the majors to start only 100 games (all what I am stating is how many games you would have them starting for the entire season). We are going to need people to get on base. And, Winker can provide that.

    Similar with Duvall. He was an All-Star last season. And, we are only going to start him 100 games? We are going to need his power in the lineup more than that.

    Then, compared to those guys, starting Herrera 130 games? He’s the one unproven commodity at this level. “If” Herrera is going to start 130 games, then Duvall definitely should be staring that many, as well as possibly Winker, also.

    I will state, if Winker shows he can’t repeat his minor-league-getting-on-base performance at the major league level, then not only won’t he start that much up here, the Reds may even send him back down to AAA to work things out more, where he can play more.

    I could see Peraza starting at 3 different positions during the week. I just don’t believe I would like to do that to a player. I just can’t help thinking it would be easier for a player to perform day-in-day-out if when they came to the park each day, they didn’t have to worry about which position they were going to have to get ready for. Also, the way Peraza was swinging the bat the last 2 months of last season (.366/.389/.484), if he keeps that pace up, and we are only going to start him 100 games?

    I would have no problem getting Hamilton a rest once a week (130 games), maybe even more. He’s only played more than 119 games once, his rookie season.

    And, then, if we think Sparky, wasn’t it a fact with the Big Red Machine back then that the “main” lineup only started together about 100 games that season, if that much? I mean, the guys in the “main lineup” did play a lot of games (the 1976 team, they all played a minimum of 135 games). But, only 2 played in more than 150 games. So, it wouldn’t be unusual for Sparky to be giving them a day off. And, where I’m getting these initial numbers from (only initial) is from, I am only looking in the number of games they played in, not how many they started.

  14. sandman

    All this talk about Peraza should start everyday. Peraza, Peraza, Peraza! And now that he will get to play most every day it’s still not enough bcuz it’s the wrong position. Will someone make up my mind for me please! Oh wait, Price kinda already did that! I’m not talking about me, ok, I hope the kids do well bcuz they’re who we’re stuck with. But what would you guys say to someone who didn’t like Peraza and/or Herrera? I ain’t got no choice but to hope these kids do well bcuz they’re the baskets that everyone’s putting their eggs into. Just curious bcuz there are a lot of die hard BP fans out there who didn’t want to see him go and therefore may be harboring some resentment toward these kids bcuz they’re the reason BP was forced out.

    • lwblogger2

      You’re onto something about the fans for sure. There are a lot of people really upset about BP being pushed out in the name of rebuilding. I think the Reds need to hope that whatever combo of players man the keystone in 2017 are better than what BP does in Atlanta this year. Even at that, there will be debates as to what constitutes “better” as the general fan has no idea what WAR is.

      • sandman

        Lwblogger2, well I was hoping for any of BP’s fans who hold resentment towards either Peraza, Herrera or Williams (or all 3) would speak up and voice that opinion but I guess they’re too afraid for fear of backlash. You’re the only one that acknowledged my statement and for that I thank you. As far as our kids at 2B outperforming BP in Atl, if I’ve learned anything from being on social media and discussing the BP situation ad nauseum, it’s that it likely wouldn’t matter much (if at all) if BP does well & outperforms our kids bcuz of the fact that we’re rebuilding, BP’s old, etc, etc, excuses, excuses. But
        I hope BP does have a fantastic year or years in Atl if for no other reason than to prove the naysayers wrong about his abilities declining.

  15. lwblogger2

    Reds have announced TV schedule on FSOH for Spring Training games:

    Wed 3/15 vs SD, 4p
    Fri 3/17 @ CLE, 9p
    Mon 3/20 @ KC, 4p
    Tue 3/21 vs LAA, 4p
    Wed 3/29 vs CLE, 3p

  16. Carl Sayre

    There is a whole lot of varying opinions on a multitude of topics here that is why it is so enjoyable. The outfield comes to mind , before BH was injured I saw what looked like advancement, Duvall reminds me a lot of Dunn for the good or bad everyone can decide that for themselves. I will say it is the first time since Dunn left we got anything out of LF and it was a VERY pleasant surprise. I don’t know the numbers off the top of my head but isn’t a Duvall/Schebler platoon a viable option? I did see one comment about Cozart possibly coming off the bench??? IMO his value is that leather thing at the end of his arm I see no value in him as a PH! Suarez and his fielding drives me to distraction but I really feel he just can’t put the jitters behind him he looks scared to death every time the ball is hit to his side of the field but he has a SS arm! The question about position players comes down to this in the outfield would you waste a year of control with Winker if he is a world beat in ST, I don’t see the Reds having anything for anybody this year! I mean wouldn’t it be smart to start him in Louisville until it takes a year off him hurting the checkbook? The middle infield is clear as………..mud and that isn’t going to change a lot if they move Cozart and while 5 million dollars in todays baseball isn’t much money he is too good defensively just to cut him loose so the flavor of the day gets playing time! I made a statement wouldn’t be smart and then occurred to me Price is still the manager so “smart” is not a big commodity with this team! I know I know but these kids come into a situation with a losing attitude it may stay long after Price is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      I can’t see the Reds platooning an All-Star with a bench player. Duvall was an All-Star last season. At least, I see the Reds playing him in LF regularly this season. Now, if he regresses, then yes, I can see a platoon. But, until then, I believe LF is Duvall’s.

  17. Old-school

    Cozart quoted today saying how there wasn’t a day last year he felt good and he had issues with the knee every day….How could the reds.price sat peraza so long with a gimpy Cozart?? Peraza should have playing 2 games a week at short and 2 games a week at second last year. At 31 with his knee injury…Peraza should play 2-3 games a week this year at short…Let Cozart rest and play an occassional third or even DH in AL games until he is traded.

    • ohiojimw

      In saw this and wondered too why he was playing everyday until he broke down.

      The only thing I can think of is that these guys are so competitive that they aren’t always forthright, even with themselves, when it comes fessing up how hurt they are. In fact here is a quote ZC gave mark Sheldon: “The knee is 100 percent,” he said. “It’s the first time since my surgery that I can just say, ‘I’m good.’ I didn’t say it a lot last year, but there wasn’t a day that I felt good during the season.”

      Another thing ZC is not likely to say even now is that perhaps he pushed himself so hard last season in hopes of getting dealt out of Cincy to a contender by the 2016 deadline.