Titanic Struggle Recap

Reds recap is can’t win ’em all

Take solace that there’s a good chance none of the pitchers who appeared will make next year’s Opening Day roster. Let’s hope so. Also, lackluster would be an apt word to describe the Reds offensive performance tonight.

The Reds had won five in a row. Can’t win ’em all. They’re 30-26 since the All Star break. Better draft pick. Yada … yada …

Cincinnati 0  Milwaukee 7 |  FanGraphs  

Tim Adleman walked three Brewers and struck out four in five innings. His season FIP is 5.89 and xFIP is 5.27. Nice story, but he’s playing out the string. Adleman’s main virtue now is being an innings eater who is not Alfredo Simon. In the arc of the moral universe, that’s no trivial thing.

Abel De Los Santos entered the game in the 6th inning. He was called up from AA-Pensacola on Monday. The Reds acquired the 23-year-old right hander off the waiver wire when he was released by the Washington Nationals on July 19. If you’ve never seen him pitch, don’t feel negligent. Neither had Bryan Price before tonight. De Los Santos retired the Brewers in order in the 6th.

De Los Santos was the 31st pitcher to take the mound for the Reds this season. That sets a single-season club record, besting the glorious 2003 pitching staff. That season, the only two pitchers with enough innings to qualify as starters were Paul Wilson and Danny Graves. Famous pitchers on that staff included: Jeff Austin, Mark Watson, Juan Cerros, Phil Norton and Joe Valentine. Wonder how they’ll stack up against the likes of Dayan Diaz, Steve Delabar, Layne Somsen and Tyler Holt(!).

Ross Oh-look-there-goes-another-one gave up three runs in his inning of work, on two walks and a homer. Ohlendorf’s ERA is 4.83 and his FIP is 5.52. Out of 138 relievers with at least 43 innings pitched, that’s the third worst. Remember when Thom Brennaman insisted that Ohlendorf was having a good year?

Billy Hamilton hasn’t played since September 4 and he’s anxious to get back on the field. Hamilton is concerned about not having played at the end of the previous two seasons. “That’s something I’ve been thinking about the whole time,” Hamilton said. “That’s two years in a row I haven’t been able to play the last month of the season. It doesn’t look good, it doesn’t feel good as a person who wants to be out there every day.”

After a day off tomorrow, the Reds host the Pittsburgh Pirates in a four-game series. Saturday features a day-night double-header because of a rain out game from May. Robert Stephenson will pitch Friday night. Anthony DeSclafani will start the 12:10 p.m. game on Saturday while Brandon Finnegan pitches the 6:10 p.m. nightcap. That may be Finnegan’s final start of the season. The Reds haven’t announced a starter for Sunday’s finale, but good chance it will be Keyvius Sampson. If you didn’t read Matt Wilkes’ insightful column this morning about Sampson’s future, here’s the link.

22 thoughts on “Reds recap is can’t win ’em all

  1. This Reds team as bad as they were early on has been enjoyable to watch over the second half when they play like they did for the 5 games prior to tonight. On the other side of the coin, they are perhaps even harder to watch now when they play like tonight (and during the recent 5 game losing streak) because we know they are capable of being much better.

    My vote is that they focus more on finding consistency in 2017 than in attempting a quantum leap forward further down the road. Become a .500 team that then advances incrementally over the next couple or three of years as opposed to tanking another year or two and hoping to leapfrog to the top heap in one giant step.

  2. While I understand that Aldeman and the rest are just fill in guys it always concerns me when our offense sleep walks through an entire game.Some how we must get beyond this next year.Baseball is baseball and its hard to figure sometimes but we should have scored 4 or 5 runs against the guys the Brewers pitched tonight.

    • Peraza and Holt both reached twice. So did Suarez. Reds got nothing from Votto, Duvall or Schebler following when they needed it. That’s the way it works sometimes.

      Also despite getting on twice, Holt may have made the worst out of the game when he K’d with Peraza on 3B and 1 out in the 3rd. He swung at an obvious ball 4 on the 3/1 count then K’d swinging thru a strike on the next pitch. If he takes the walk, the Reds have Votto batting with runners on the corner and 1 out.

      • You know, there just has to be a prospective Reds manager out there somewhere who would bat Votto second instead of forcing subpar hitters in the 2 hole in front of him in the prayerful hope that they get on base for Votto. …… Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like at least once a game the 2-hole comes up in the order when I’m just dyin’ for Votto to get a shot. And it turns out kinda like the scenario from tonight’s game.

        • I see your point about wanting Joey at the bat with runners on but Holt has to give a professional at bat in that case and take the walk or put it in play. Joey can not be the only person in the line up who can knock in runs for us to be a winning team. Not only that but regardless where you bat Joey pitchers will pitch around him if at all possible if no other person on team can produce.

      • Holt’s bad AB you note above aside. I wanted to point out that Holt’s BB% is 10.6% and his .323 OBP is right at the league average of .322. Also note he is obviously not a good PH (.118 .225 .147 .372 in 41 PA) but does seem to fare much better when getting some semi-regular ABs. As a Starter, 121 PA, he’s hitting (.264 .345 .349 .694).

        • Does that play as the 5th OF, pure CF backup for you if Peraza is a regular IF?

          I want to believe in Holt but then he starts chasing high pitches like last night (multiple times) and that chills me a bit.

        • It might if you have another RH bat off the bench as your primary RH PH. I just wanted to mostly point out that for a guy that gets a lot a grief that he does still do several things well. He plays good OF defense, he runs well, and he gets on base at a good rate. He may be one of those guys that only plays well with more reps and not make it as a bench player. But he still profiles pretty well as a CF who can hit in the one or two hole.

  3. The best thing that happened tonight was hearing what the MLB schedule is for next season. NL Central vs. the AL East. Reds have a May weekend series with the Yankees and a late Sept. series with Boston. The Reds will travel to Tor, TB, and NYY. And have their usual home and home with Cleveland. I think the Reds travel to NY in July.
    It’ll be a very interesting schedule next year. Hope the Reds can upgrade the offense and tremendously upgrade the bullpen for next season.

    • It was also pointed out by someone that they play StL a lot early much like they did the Cubbies this year and thus miss out on a heat of the summer dog days trip into StL. They go to StL the first weekend of the season, return there the last weekend of April then don’t go back until the middle of Sept.

  4. The race for the #3 pick is tightening up. It’ll be hard for MIN and ATL not to finish in the top 2 spots. Just 3 1/2 games separate #3 and #10. Reds currently tied for #5.

    1. Twins 54-92
    2. Braves 56-90
    3. D-backs 61-84
    4. Padres 62-84
    5. Reds 62-83
    5. Rays 62-83
    7. A’s 63-82
    7. Angels 63-82
    9. Phils 65-81
    9. Brewers 65-81

    • Keep in mind that the Reds have the tie breaker advantage over everyone but the Phillies.

      Also, the Reds have 6 games remaining with the Cubbies 3H/3A and 4 games with the Cardinales in StL. The Cubbies are close to already having home field advantage locked down; so, not sure how those games will be played. However the Cards figure to be fighting for their playoff life; those games should be legit.

  5. Love the nickname Oh-look-there-goes another-one. It would be a great laugh for the day, if it were not so true. Here’s praying that Ross does the right thing and retires and stops embarrassing himself.

    • Baseball Ref puts Ohlendorf’s career (salary) earnings right around $5M counting this season. I’m guessing that’s low enough as such things go that he will be back for more if there are any offers.

      • If this is a rebuilding year where they are trying to find out who can compete in the future, O’s continuing futility is senseless. Put a young guy in and see what he can do. We already know what O can (and can’t) do.

    • He tweeted “Doh’lendorf” yesterday evening after the HR and I about fell over laughing.

  6. If there are offers for the bullpen, it should be for LH pitchers.

    I see RI, ML, BW, JS from the right side and TC and JL from the left.

    RO is not better than Wood or Smith. I like Keyvius as a swing arm here

    I am ok with anyone brought in to challenge the last 3

  7. I happened to be up late and run across JC Ramirez on an ESPN game. He was throwing 99-100 mph and actually getting people out. Why did we get rid of him so quickly again?

    • Think that was a numbers game. I was kind of surprised when it was him and not Jumbo Diaz. Keep in mind that we also DFAed Sampson and nobody picked him up. That kind of surprised me.

  8. For what it’s worth, Nick Senzel had a better year than the 1st, 1st round pick, Mick Morniak. Morniak is 18 and Senzel 22 but Morniak was in a rookie league and Senzel at A.

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