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A quick note to remind you that Joey Votto is simply amazing

I posted this on the twitters a couple of days ago, but I thought it should be placed here for posterity.

Did you know that Joey Votto just passed Tony Perez at the top of the Reds’ career WAR list for first basemen.



I’m telling you, the guy is underrated.

27 thoughts on “A quick note to remind you that Joey Votto is simply amazing

  1. I have been saying that for long time first time I saw him play I knew he was going to be awesome

    • I like Votto! Before I even met him I liked him! You hate him compared to how much I like him!

      • I would die for Votto. I have killed for Votto.

        I became a Canadian citizen for Joey. I put mayo on everything for Joey. I had one of my kidneys proactively removed
        ” just in case” Joey needs it someday.

      • My wife was drooling over him when he came out of the dugout just in front of us, playing for the Bats against the Indians here in Indy. She doesn’t know anything about baseball, but she liked him before any of you! 😉

      • That’s awesome. Its so clear that Votto is a great hitter BECAUSE of his pitch selection (despite what the Brenammans think). I hate how people I know constantly say how Votto is not good for this team because he doesnt hit for enough power or some other garbage. HE CAN ONLY BE THE BEST HITTER HE CAN BE. Baseball is not like basketball or football where you have to learn to work with other players strengths and weaknesses. YOU are the only one that can control the situation you are in, and Votto is the king. In fact, its actually the opposite as pitchers don’t have to throw anything hittable if they don’t want, Who wants to pitch to Votto when BP hits behind him.

        • Who wants to give Votto anything decent to hit when pretty much anyone else is behind him?

  2. I just noticed how similar Votto’s line is to Ted Kluszewski’s. Other than Votto walks a lot more, and Klu strikes out a lot less.

    • No one stuck out much in the 50’s. They threw in the 80’s and no one had a hard slider.

  3. The yahoos who say that Votto needs to swing at more bad pitches are just clueless. If the pitcher doesn’t give you a pitch to hit, don’t swing. It’s not rocket science.

    • What’s funny is that the premise you describe is about as old-school as it gets. Swing at good pitches and take bad ones. Work the count in your favor. Be selectively aggressive.

      • So basically the people who say he should expand his zone, especially with runners on are not old-school, they are no-school.

  4. Just perused the fangraphs article. I didn’t see that game but now I wish I had. That pitch chart is awesome! I loved Johnny Bench as a kid. Loved him. And as a little catcher then, he’s the biggest reason I’m a Reds fan. Then I loved Barry Larkin and Eric Davis. Used to slap my leg with my glove before catching a fly ball when I played outfield. But now I love Joey Votto in the era of MLB TV and Extra Innings and the Internet, and I get to appreciate one of the greatest hitters of all time. Really – look it up. And possibly the greatest Reds hitter ever. With TiVo and Internet video and GIF’s and heat maps and pitchf/x charts. And it all just backs up the eye test. He’s not the greatest slugger but man can he control the strike zone and hit like, well, almost no one ever before. Thanks Joey, it’s been fun and I can’t wait to see what you do the rest of the way. Awesome.

    • “Catch You Later” is a good read if you haven’t read it already.

  5. If Votto would keep from losing his wallet at the beginning of the season like he has the last 2 years, I’d think an NL batting title or 2 could be his by the time he turns 35.

    • It will be interesting to see if he can trade power for contact as he ages. As it stands now, I think he strikes out too much to ever realistically challenge for a batting title (at this point in his career) without changing his approach.

      Also, I think luck is usually a big factor in winning a batting title Or, you need to play 1/2 your games at Coors Field. For example, look at the spread of guys here:

      2010 – Carlos Gonzalez .336 (What!?!)
      2011 – Jose Reyes .337
      2012 – Buster Posey – .336
      2013 – Michael Cuddyer .331 (Ok, then…)
      2014 – Justin Morneau .319 (Sure…)
      2015 – Dee Gordon .333
      2016 – Murphy .346 / LeMahieu .344

      If LeMahieu can edge out Murphy, it’ll be 4 Rockies in the last 7 seasons. Not really fair, to be honest, for everyone else.

      Or, you just need to have a career year with some BABIP luck, which fits everyone else on the list.

      Votto could do it, but unless he hits 30+ HR, he will need to cut his strikeouts by a lot while also maintaining his almost unmatched level of sustained BABIP.

      • I was thinking about Votto’s strikeouts, Patrick, and wonder if they are a result of his willingness get to two strikes? He seems unfazed by that situation, and changes his approach slightly, but is still only one strike away from a k. Are an inordinate number of his strikeouts called third strikes? If so, it would seem to support my theory.

      • Does MLB give out a nice, big trophy for the OBP title?
        I know. I know what you are saying. Votto would be the first person to say he doesn’t strive for or look at individual awards, he focuses on team objectives. Winning a World Series. But I’ve listened and read intently many interviews with him for several years now. He doesn’t say it, and won’t ever. However, I think deep down he would like to win at least one batting title before he hangs up his cleats. I think he has a desire to throw some cold water on some of the nay-sayers and critics about “walking too much” or the “doesn’t drive in enough runs” talk. Votto won’t win a HR title nor an RBI title. A batting title one day is within his grasp. The Ted Williams-Votto connection, Ted Williams won 6, so I think Votto would like to win one at least.

    • It would be interesting to see what Votto could hit if he choked up on the bat all year long. Hes been doing it with 2 strikes for a long time, but he seems to be doing it a lot more in other counts now. And when he does he seems to really have a lot of control over where he hits the ball. It would sacrifice a lot of power, but I would think he could hit .350 or better if he was just looking for base hits all the time.

  6. I’ll take Dawgie when I need a baserunner or two to be knocked in.

  7. What Votto has done in 2015/16 is quite remarkable considering the lost injury season of 2014. He finished 3rd in MVP voting last year and has a solid shot at finishing in the top 5 again this year. When you bracket that with his 2010 MVP numbers and career slash lines….he is making a compelling case as one of the best hitters of this decade. I hope he can put together 3-4 more solid seasons and then his cumulative numbers will start to fill in his resume for Cooperstown. We are watching history.

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