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Reds vs Marlins – August 17, 2016

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The Cincinnati Reds (49-69) and the Miami Marlins (62-57) have split the first two games of their four game series in Cincinnati. The two teams will square off in the third game of the series tonight at 7:10. The Reds will be looking for their 50th win of 2016. The Marlins enter play today just 1.0 game out of the second wild card spot, behind the St. Louis Cardinals.

Starting Pitchers

Bailey Cashner

Homer Bailey is coming off a brilliant start last Friday. Bailey threw 6.0 shutout innings, while striking out 11 without walking a batter. The most exciting thing about Bailey’s return has been the high strikeout numbers. He has struck out 21 batters in 14.2 innings. That is very encouraging for a guy returning from Tommy John Surgery. Bailey has also yet to allow a home run in 2016.

Bailey has a 2.47 ERA with 42 K and 12 BB in 7 career starts against the Marlins. Bailey’s last start against the Marlins came in 2014: 7.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 3 BB, 5 K.


Andrew Cashner was traded to the Marlins around the trade deadline from the Padres. Casher has struggled in 2016, and the move to Miami hasn’t helped. He has a 6.61 ERA through his first four starts with the Marlins. Cashner was a first round pick of the Cubs back in 2008, and was very good as recently as 2014 with the Padres (2.55 ERA/3.09 FIP).

Cashner has a career 5.16 ERA in 9 appearances against the Reds (3 starts). The Reds beat him up in his last start on June 6th, 2015: 5.2 IP, 8 H, 7 ER, 5 BB, 2 K. Zack Cozart homered in that game.

Starting Lineups

Marlins Reds
1. Dee Gordon (2B)
2. Martin Prado (3B)
3. Christian Yelich (LF)
4. Marcell Ozuna (CF)
5. Derek Dietrich (1B)
6. Ichiro Suzuki (RF)
7. J.T. Realmuto (C)
8. Adeiny Hechavarria (SS)
9. Andrew Cashner (P)
1. Tony Renda (LF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Brandon Phillips (2B)
5. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
6. Scott Schebler (CF)
7. Tucker Barnhart (C)
8. Tyler Holt (RF)
9. Homer Bailey (P)

Zack Cozart and Brandon Phillips return to the Reds lineup, and will play for the first time in the series. Billy Hamilton and Adam Duvall are both out of the lineup for a second straight night. Both players are listed as day to day, and are expected to return soon.

49 thoughts on “Reds vs Marlins – August 17, 2016

    • I hope we don’t have to see it for too long Sez. Nothing against any of them, but this club needs Billy and Adam as much as possible!

  1. The AAA Bats played an afternoon game today, Rookie Davis pitched 6 shutout innings, 5H, 2BB, 5K, 103P/67S.

    The game went scoreless thru 9. The Bats put 4 on the board in the top of the10th. Hoover struggled a bit in the bottom of the inning but closed out the game for a 4-1 Bats win.

    Peraza had 3 doubles; one of them drove in the 1st run of the game. Winker also had a hit. Herrera did not play (I thought I had read somewhere that he was expected to give it a go today).

    • Man those Lville pitchers are up-n-down game to game like a rollercoaster! I did watch some video on Amir Garrett a few weeks ago and his slider really has some downward movement! No wonder he hasn’t given up many Hrs! I think he might be the best lefty of the young guys!

      My man Suarez in the last 30 days:

      .287 with 19 runs, 4 Hrs, and 17 Rbis! He’s coming back around!!

      • That up-n-down thing is often what you get with young pitchers. Be interesting to see how Homer does tonight. I suspect that at least the rest of this season we’ll have some games resembling that last outing and unfortunately other resembling the previous start. As he gets the “feel” back completely hopefully we see more of the last Friday performances. I was impressed with how he went out of his way to credit Barnhart for calling a great game.

    • thanks for the update. Peraza’s development/performance is obviously important.

  2. Tony Renda batting 1st is baffling. Absolutely indefensible.

    Cozart batted leadoff a lot early in the year… why not move everyone up and put Renda at the bottom where he belongs? My guess is Price wants Votto hitting 3rd and that is where he starts his lineup card.

    I. Just. Don’t. Get. It.

    • Because we’ve all been clamoring for high OBP guys to be at the top of the lineup and he’s carried a career OBP of .361 through the minors?

      Full disclaimer, I understand minors success does not necessarily translate to major league success, but many of us want on OBP guy, here he is.

    • I dunno whether he should be batting leadoff, but I like Renda. I think he has a real chance to be an effective bench player for the Reds over the next few years.

      • Sure. I’m not doubting that. I just can’t understand why you hit the (likely) worst hitter in the lineup 1st.

        At this point I know I’m a broken record, but all the small things managers do like this add up. I find it quite vexing.

    • I’m lost on most things Price does. But he had one of the most dangerous players in the game hitting at the bottom of the lineup and puts an unproven guy like Renda in the leadoff position where he will have added pressure at the top of the lineup. Why not put the kid in a spot where he can learn to hit in the big leagues before leading off. I’m sure Cozart can handle the leadoff position for a while.

  3. Thom neglected to mention the drugs that Bonds usedto help him get to that record. I’m no fan of Ford Frick let me tell you but in this case an asterisk is definitely needed

    • I just try to forget Bonds career after his first ten years. He was too good to ruin what we remember with drugs that he didn’t need. His numbers and play spoke for themselves before he made a joke of himself.

  4. Quick research says Homer is one of only three active pitchers with multiple no no’s in MLB…..

  5. Is there any place to go to compare DL usage by teams? Seems like the Reds are reluctant to DL players over the past few years. Obviously there are reasons to that that I am not privy to or has something to do with the resources available on the 40 man roster but I would like to understand what it would hurt to put BHam on the 15 day DL and call up Winker for that time period.

    • Yeah, so don’t give Hamilton a chance to swipe second and make it a runner on third and one out.

  6. Thanks Phillips for bailing Price out on that bunt call. Unfortunately, they’ll check that off as a successful play

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