2016 Reds / Game Thread

Reds vs. Marlins – August 16, 2016

10:40 AM CST: Josh Donaldson is on MLB Network saying, “They don’t pay you for ground balls. They pay you for doubles, for home runs, unless you’re going to steal 80 bases like you’re Billy Hamilton or something.”

6:10 PM CST: The Cincinnati Reds (48-69) will play the Miami Marlins (62-56) in the second game of their four game series. Josh Donaldson will not be playing in the game as he is not on either team. Billy Hamilton will be playing in the game because he plays for the Reds. Giancarlo Stanton, previously unmentioned, will not be playing in the game despite playing for the Marlins because he is hurt. Giancarlo Stanton got paid for doubles and home runs. Just some observations.

Starting Pitchers

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Anthony DeSclafani takes the mound after recording his first loss of the season last time out. Despite letting up two homers, Disco did strike out five in 5.0 innings so there were some silver linings. His 1.12 HR/9 mark kinda dulls whatever those silver linings were though.

For the second night in a row, the Marlins are starting a converted reliever as Jose Urena makes his fourth start of the year. Urena dazzled in his first two starts, giving up two runs in 11.2 combined innings, but the wheels came off his last time out. Against the Cardinals, Urena gave up eight runs in 4.1 innings, walking four.

Starting Lineup

Marlins Reds
1. Dee Gordon (2B)
2. Martin Prado (3B)
3. Christian Yelich (LF)
4. Marcell Ozuna (CF)
5. Derek Dietrich (1B)
6. Ichiro Suzuki (RF)
7. J.T. Realmuto (C)
8. Adeiny Hechavarria (SS)
9. Jose Urena (P)
1. Tony Renda (LF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
5. Scott Schebler (CF)
6. Ivan De Jesus (2B)
7. Tucker Barnhart (C)
8. Tyler Holt (RF)
9. Anthony DeSclafani (P)

Roster Update

Joey Votto Goodness

As always, the guys over at Red Reporter did a wonderful job summarizing exactly why Joey Votto is in a league all by himself. Check out the full piece, but here’s a highlight of Joey’s grandeur:

His offensive runs above average stands at 50.6 ahead of the the likes of Kris Bryant (48.6) and fathoms beyond Daniel Murphy (39.7), and his .455 OBP in that time has lapped the NL field in Ledeckian fashion.

Prospect Watch

We all know that the Reds future largely depends on what the farm system can churn out. (Is that even true? I don’t know, but some people believe it is.) So, in standard fashion, the blog Minor League Ball looked at how the Reds pre-season top 20 prospects were doing as of yesterday. Notably, this list does not include Nick Senzel because he was still in college as of the pre-season, so take its findings as you will.

Concluding Thoughts

No Olympic nonsense today. Not because the Olympics suddenly just stopped going on or anything–they are very much still happening–but because Jonathan Lucroy pulled on Sam Dyson’s beard and that’s all the sporting nonsense we need today.

Go Reds!

40 thoughts on “Reds vs. Marlins – August 16, 2016

  1. Is Duvall hurt? Does he really need an off day with these guys. One realizes how terrible this bench is when they actually have to play – not one with an OPS over .600

  2. Renda, Dejesus, Holt. Ouch!

    Maybe they want to check Schebler’s efficacy in CF, but I’d have to think Holt is a much better option there.

      • I don’t know about raking but had a .360 OBP and a .315 batting average. Decent bb to K ratio also. No power worth mentioning. Could be a good player but who knows if he sticks. In order to pass the fan test he must instantly perform.

    • This lineup is for all those demanding the youth movement. Here is the youth of tomorrow today. For better or for worse.

      • this is not the youth movement, Cozart, Dejesus and Holt will not be here probably by next season, there are at least 4 players at AAA better than half this line-up.

      • Neither DeJesus nor Holt are the “youth,” and Tony Renda wasn’t really thought of as much during the Chapman trade.

  3. Lets see we are facing a minor leaguer and we have the C team playing so that normally means we don’t score.Added to the fact Disco got blooped to death and gave up a run in the first while throwing 25 pitches also means we are in trouble.However I believe we will score a bunch tonight and win easily.Go Reds.

  4. Did I call it or did I call it.Three straight two out hits,a walk and then a bomb by Tucker.I got to go now and get some lottery tickets.

    • at 57 pitches , he might not make it through 6. What are the odds if things stay the way they are 3 run lead or less, Iggy for 7th & 8th and Cingrani for the 9th? what do you do otherwise with no Lorenzen, pitch Josh Smith in high leverage?

      • Guess I was wrong solid 7 looking doable, nice to get through the next 3 at only 32 pitches

  5. Take a look at the OBP for the Marlins lineup.Sure be great if we could be like that one day.

    • I commented last night this might be a team to model the revuild around. I think 8 guys on their roster would be 2nd to Votto in obp, not including their 2 best hitters on the DL

  6. Duvall has diabetes. He did not get a break as he participated in the HR Derby and the played in the All-Star game.

    Give him a break.

  7. Tucker’s got a good chance to finish the year with 20+doubles, 10+ homers and a .330+ obp. Solid year for a solid player. One thing the Reds found out this year is that Tucker is a major league catcher. He is probably better off playing 2-3 times per week rather than 4-5 times per week in a catching tandem like Hannigan/Hernandez. But still he is above replacement level which is more than you can say for most of the Reds recent farm graduates.

    • He is turning into more than just above replacement level- he is putting up above average OPS+ against RHP judging from his splits- against lefties not so great. Hopefully he can maintain it for the last stretch of games

  8. We lead the league (maybe all of MLB) in balks. Yes, we have had a young staff, but so have many teams. Seems like another one of those ‘little things’ like checking runners and covering bases, and backing up plays, that a manager known for his prowess working with pitchers should have addressed in the Spring

  9. I didn’t catch your comment last night VIC about OBP of the Marlins but you right.I went back and looked where they stand in runs scored and was stunned that we have scored 7 or 8 more runs in 1 less game.One thing that does stand out and I am sure it is ball park related is that we have hit I believe 30 more home runs.

    • In the context of their ballpark-seems obp would be an advantage. Judging from their pitching it is average at best once you get past Fernandez, hopefully they can hang on to the wildcard and get his spot in the rotation to come up. They get Bour and Ramos back they might be a formidable playoff team. Is Stanton done for the regular season or entire year.

    • Is everything about the Reds in regards to what others analysis is of a Reds player?

      • I like to embrace these guys and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It is a rebuilding year so who cares about who is actually playing as long as we get to see a steady stream of new players….. of which we are Scheb being one of them and I think and this is my own opinion that this guy is a future major leaguer. Will he be as good as Jay? Doubtful.

  10. Schebler just needs to play.Got tons of power and just needs to play everyday.He may end up being really streaky just like the guy he replaced but this kid can hit and seems to give maximum effort.

  11. Iggy with a 4 pitch walk to the first hitter then strikes out the side.

  12. If Disco could qualify then he’d be 15th in the NL in era at 3.10

    13th – Johnny Cueto 2.97
    14th – Stephen Strasburg 3.07

    Disco isn’t flashy but he’s a pretty underrated pitcher!!

  13. Just curious if Iglesias was a dominant as Gameday makes it seem, last 9 pitches, 2 foul balls, 1 called strikes, 6 whiffs?

  14. Im happy for the win, but Cingrani still had no movement on that high fast ball, got hit hard, and had some umpire help. Very easily could have gone a different direction.

    • The DP got it done, but I was expecting one of those high hard ones to fly out and game tied.

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