After taking two of three last week in Cincinnati, the Reds (45-65) make the mostly boring trip out to St. Louis to play another three-game set against the Cardinals (58-53). I guess the Reds do get to fly and don’t have to drive through the endless fields to get to St. Louis but still, traveling to St. Louis is a fate I wish on no one.

Starting Pitchers

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Cody Reed has taken some flack from Reds fans lately because he hasn’t quite pitched at a major league level. The Reds also haven’t quite been playing at a major league level, so I’m sure Reed’s transgressions can be forgiven. What better way than to hone your craft than by pitching against the best of the best when there’s no stakes attached?

Anyway, there are some bright spots in Reed’s peripheral numbers–take his nearly identical K% and BB% to Michael Wacha for one. His SIERA–the stat that probably best boils a pitcher down to just what a pitcher can control–is also right at league average (4.05 Reed, 4.20 NL Avg.) and belies that maybe this kid will put it all together one day.

Michael Wacha on the other hand is a stinking Cardinal and all his success probably helps to fund the building of another Death Star…or something. Wacha’s surface-level stats show a bit of regression from his 17 win season a year ago, but really not much has changed. His BABIP has climbed 50 points, which explains the sudden lack of wins and point increase in ERA, but all his other stats have stayed pretty constant. And if you’re wondering, Cody Reed has outpitched Wacha in terms of SIERA (Wacha 4.19).

Starting Lineups

Reds Cardinals
1. Billy Hamilton (CF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Adam Duvall (LF)
5. Brandon Phillips (2B)
6. Scott Schebler (RF)
7. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
8. Tucker Barnhart (C)
9. Cody Reed (P)
1. Matt Carpenter (2B)
2. Stephen Piscotty (RF)
3. Matt Holliday (LF)
4. Brandon Moss (1B)
5. Yadier Molina (C)
6. Jhonny Peralta (SS)
7. Jedd Gyorko (3B)
8. Tommy Pham (CF)
9. Michael Wacha (P)

Reds Birthdays!
Today is both Blake Wood and Ross Ohlendorf’s birthday. Hopefully, Bryan Price will give them the day to celebrate and won’t insist on running either reliever into the game.

Chad’s Favorite Player

Does this make last 22 games Billy Hamilton Daniel Craig and previous large number of games Billy Hamilton Pierce Brosnan? Or is the new Billy Hamilton Sean Connery and why was James Bond brought into the conversation at all? Further, eight men have played James Bond at some point, and of the eight, Daniel Craig would most certainly play centerfield and Pierce Brosnan would most certainly play shortstop and that’s not supposed to answer the first question, but I’m not going to say it doesn’t answer the first question either.

Olympic Nonsense
I hold a bit of a grudge against the Olympics for discontinuing baseball as a sport and crushing my dreams of being an Olympic athlete. (I never would’ve made the team, but at least I would have had hope!) Anyway, the news of the day is that Katie Ledecky is the best swimmer the US has ever seen and if you don’t believe me read this.

Katie Ledecky knows no earthly bound.

Concluding Thoughts
The Reds are playing the Cardinals. Cody Reed is pitching. There is a chance he won’t perform that well. And that is a-ok.

I’ve missed writing game threads. It’s nice to see everyone again.

Go Reds!

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  1. About 40 miles outside of St. Louis is one of the best fried chicken places I have ever eaten at. Just me, it’s worth the boring drive just to get that fried chicken.

    I have a pacemaker and the only place where I am ever ever ever been hand surgeon since I can’t go through The metal detectors was underneath the arch in St. Louis. Not only was the searcher able to tell my gender but probably also my religion.

  2. Welcome back from the Old World, Wes!

  3. Dilson Herrera apparently did not start for the Louisville Bats tonight (based on MiLB Gameday live box score).despite reports earlier in the day that he was expected back in the lineup tonight.

    Robert Stephenson had a rough 1st inning. 2 runs (both earned) on 4 hits, one a HR plus a BB. 27 pitches, 16 Strikes..

    • when it rains….. RS allows 2 more runs in the 2nd. At least no HR or BB involved.

      Also partial correction on Herrera. He is DHing but not playing in the field.

  4. Anyone want to comment n Scheblers last 3 games. Pretty freeking horrible.

    • I’m no scout but the way he holds his hands low….I think he’s going to always have a hole in his swing and probably look pretty bad against guys throwing really hard like Taillon or Cole w/the Pirates. He might be a pretty good platoon player if Price matched him up w/the right pitchers and found a good RH platoon partner. He’s not going to cut it as a starter imo. Duvall could end up in that situation as well but he’s got more potential then Schebler imo from their swings alone!

    • He seemed to be fine until Leake hit him on the knee and he was limping badly to first.. maybe he is playing thru pain.

  5. Hmm, I remember the Reds bullpen making this kind of list earlier in the year. Tough year. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/i-found-the-worst-thing-about-the-reds/

  6. I really dislike the Cards…..really, really dislike them.

    • I really think the Pirates missed their window and the Cards are in decline. The Cubs are the model right now unfortunately. The Reds need to flip this around and pass the Bucs/Cards. I think that can happen. I am not impressed with the 2016 Pirates/Cardinals.

    • I cannot agree with this post strongly enough.

      preach!

  7. In the 2nd inning of the Bats game tonight with 3 runs scored, runners on 1B & 2B, no outs and the Bats trailing 4-3, DeShields orders up a sac bunt by the catcher. Of course it ends up in an infield popup for the 1st out then a double play by the next batter.

    Please tell me that Williams is going to clean house with a machete after this season and install a new baseball organization at the major league level and throughout the minor league system.

    • that story about Deshields makes me sad 🙁

    • Having guys like DeShields around is predicated on whether the objective of the “rebuild” is to:

      A. Find and develop a cost controlled group of players that can compete during a very finite window of time….a team will peak, decline and start over. An example being the 2010-13 Reds.

      or

      B. Is this a ” rebuild”of the organization…. in which the objective is to create a consistent player development system that enables them to develop players and replace them in a more seamless way when they become eligible for UFA……example, the 2008-Present St. Louis Cardinals.

      I’m hoping for B….but fear A.

    • Please keep preaching your sermon. Now is the time RLN has its loudest voice…..The superficial fans have left the building and wont be back for awhile.

  8. From what I have seen of Stephenson and Garrett, they are more advanced than Cody Reed and Cody is eating up valuable ML innings that 1 of those 2 could be getting. I really like Cody, but he has a long way to go. I was able to see Amir Garrett throw 2 games while I was in Tennessee, and he was just great. I honestly don’t see how he hasn’t made his debut yet? I hope Reed goes out and gets that first big league win today, but I doubt it. Probably gets lit up like a pin ball machine. What’s the good thing about today’s Titanic Struggle? 1 game closer to no more Bryan Price.

  9. That s the way to start Billy!

  10. A little leadoff bingo for Billy!

  11. Cozart turns ball 4 into strike 3

  12. Big time wasted oppo there

  13. All kinds of baserunners…3 SB’s …no runs. That Cozart K really hurt.

  14. A base hit, two walks, and 3 stolen bases should be able to generate something.

    • Missed the first, but did Schebler really swing at the 1st pitch after he walked the previous 2 on 9 pitches?

  15. Wacha was all over the place but Cozart bails him out! I like Cozart and BP but they need to go! We need to change the culture. I think Duvall and Suarez are trying to make the pitcher come to them a little more and take some pitches but its a work in progress. Its never happening with Cozart though!

  16. ESPN just published an article ranking the current MLB managers. Spoiler alert, Bryan Price is surprisingly “high” at 21. They even included him in their “solid skippers” section

    • I wonder where Bruce Bochy was ranked when the Padres were losing 90 plus games or Joe Maddon during his first 2 dreadful years in Tampa.

  17. Two questions that involve Phillips:

    1) I saw coming into tonight’s game he had an OBP of .314. How does that compare with league average, it seems like it would be at least near average.

    2) If Brandon had – let’s say – league average Slugging Percentage or ISO (either one), would he be an average to plus hitter on the year? Just curious if the lack of power is his main flaw this year, especially now that his BA/OBP is up to more decent numbers

    • His power drought was due mostly to injury. He used to be an 18-20 hr guy, but he is more of 15 HR guy now when he’s healthy

  18. 2 batters…2 rockets

  19. The culture does need to change but it must be a teaching point throughout the organization.Duvall/Suarez are taking more pitches and so is Billy all of which are good signs but as you said it is a work in progress.

  20. I’ve been calling for the backdoor slider to righties since Reed came up and finally threw a nice one to K Holliday. Surely Price and Power have been working with him but his sliders to righties have always been inside and rarely strikes. That backdoor can be deadly because the righty hitters give up on it! Decent breaking balls to Moss too…..baby steps possibly?

    • Good observation. What i saw was his 2 strike pitches (ahead in the count) aren’t even close for the batter to offer at. Paint the edge or sharp slider in the dirt.

  21. Nice bunt, Reed. Should have been a dp

    • Unfortunately for the cards their defense stinks. Holliday is terrible. And Piscotty had no clue on that Votto triple. He dove way to early.

  22. We will take it!

  23. Cards having some outfield adventures early

  24. Thats a foul ball

  25. OK…man on 3rd, and the 3rd baseman is playing deep short. Why wouldnt Votto bunt and take the hit/run/rbi? He wound up getting the misplayed triple. So all’s well that ends well

  26. Stay hot BP…1-1 2B and BB

  27. Good jump ny Brandon. Get em on, get em over, get em in.

  28. Just my opinion of course and if we are going to debate Bonds we might as well debate Mays vs. Aaron or Musial vs. Williams or Rodriguez vs., well, Bonds. But I rank Brosnan ahead of every Bond except Connery. Daniel Craig is way too serious with not nearly enough mischief in him. I’ll go Connery, Brosnan, Moore, Craig, then all the rest (and I’ll leave Lazenby and Dalton off the list entirely and pretend I forgot them). So give me Connery in center, Brosnan at short and Moore behind the plate with Craig pitching in relief.

    Also, my DirecTV is shutting me out so I can’t see the game. Anyone else having the same problem?

  29. Welch: “Hamilton is an instant migraine for the pitcher once he gets to first.”

  30. Looks like he stayed in the baseline to me

  31. Watching on MLB Gameday, Cody Reed is frustrating to watch in his first MLB season. First pitch strike to Molina, then proceeds to throw four balls, three of them fastballs nowhere close to the plate. I get it, he’s young, but I feel like location is the hardest thing to “coach”.

    Maybe it is just mechanical, but with only one plus pitch and an above average slider with below average changeup, you better be able to locate if you want to make it in the majors.

  32. Schebler looks really bad….they need to give him a day off and play Holt again! Duvall is prob tired too. I wonder if Renda has played outfield?

  33. Wow. Just wow Duvall

  34. Will they PH for Reed here and leave him in line for the win or get one more inning out of him?

  35. Great question.I don’t know but I am guessing he comes out for the 6th but we will see.

    • You were right. I was thinhing they would play it safe and PH for him to try and get him his first W

  36. Reed hit for himself so I assume he is going back out there.It would be huge for his confidence if he could get through the 6th.

  37. I would go with Jumbo/Sampson tonite > Wood/Ohlenbeef but I know Price doesn’t feel that way

    • If Lorenzen and especially Iglesias struggle, the bullpen is back to being a crapshoot, as far as I’m concerned.

      • when have they really struggled? Iglesias gave up a run with a big lead, granted he struggled for a few batters but to me where the bullpen runs into issues is when guys relieve each other mid-inning, not too much of that since the ASB

        • Naw, just my point that if you have to use them both in the same game, and neither is available for the next game, then you’re left with, well, what happened tonight.

  38. Awesome job Reed….god on ya!

  39. Great job Reed.The kid did great that last inning and went right at them.Learning on the job at the big league level.

  40. Jumbo with a wild pitch. Huh.

  41. We will just have to sweat it out until we get a true major league bull pen.Its tought I know but it is what it is.

  42. Now is the time to ask why not Wood to start the inning?

  43. 4-6-3….just what the Dr. ordered.

  44. Fine relief effort by Wood tonight.

  45. Diaz and Wood both should be sponsored by Milanta and Alka Seltzer.

  46. 5 straight fastballs to Yadi….eventually he got tagged for a lead off single

  47. Geesh, Cingrani.

  48. loaded for carpenter…sigh

  49. My goodness.

  50. LoL. Tony what a hot mess.

  51. Bullpen keeps on keeping on….

  52. 20 pitches…all fastballs

  53. Poor command, and an inability to throw anything but fastballs.

    Yep, sounds like a winning combination to me.

  54. no doubles defense has allowed 2 singles and 3 runs

  55. Cingrani with an epic meltdown…

  56. Oh No-lendorph coming in

  57. Replacing Cingrani with Ohlendorf. My confidence couldnt be higher

  58. You have got to be kidding me ! How fricking embarrassing!!!!!! Olendorf coming in… Guess what follows?????

  59. Yep. It was either a bb or a homer.

  60. Couldn’t see that coming.

  61. Is there any doubt now that Iglesias and lorenzen are on parallel tracks??? Scripted spring training regimens regardless of team situation?

  62. Why is Ohlendorf even on this team?

  63. DFA before he gets to the dugout

  64. Yep. Happy birthday Ross. I would say unbelievable, but honestly, i believe it. Actually expected it.

  65. Wow. 3 walks and 2 HBP’s in the inning. Probably the worst loss of the year for the Reds.

  66. High Leverage choke by both Cingranni and Ohlendorf.

  67. EMBARRASSING!

  68. Why no t Lorenzen? He didn’t pitch yesterday

  69. Poor Cody Reed. Probably had the baseball from his first major league “win” all ready to be put on his mantle.

    Guess that will have to wait.

  70. Unless im wrong, Molina was on second with 2 outs in the ninth, and he was the one hbp to win the game.

  71. Worse than the back to back to back Danny graves loss?

  72. Bryan Price clown show. Worst manager of pitching maneuvers ever – simply amazing. Players gotta execute, but Price HAS NO CLUE !

  73. Absolutely can’t happen.Cingrani should have got pulled right after the Carpenter hit but the reality is with two outs and one man on you could have put the ball on a tee and they still wouldn’t have scored 5 runs.Three walks and HBP by the same pitcher and you leave him in.Come on nobody could be that bad of a manager.

  74. No reason Lorenzen couldn’t pitch 1 inning? The guy is strong as an ox! Price is beyond stupid sometimes! I thought Dusty stuck w/Coco Cordero too often but Ohlendorf isn’t a high paid closer! I don’t understand the misguided loyalty at all? I never trusted Cingrani either….he has no business in the 8th/9th inning for a contender. Giving games away to the Cardinals of all teams…inexecusable.

  75. Sorry it was two walks and a HBP for CingranI.Ohly got 1 of each.

  76. I type and spell like Price manages….inexcusable

  77. I have a suggestion for what Jim Day should do on his day off: find a real bullpen arm.

  78. I think when people say anyone can close a game, for what ever reason that doesn’t seem to be true. JJ Hoover has already been chewed up and spit out in that role and Cingrani is on that same path and Olendorf doesn’t even come close to being able to handle that role.

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