Game Thread

Reds at Pirates – August 5, 2016


The Cincinnati Reds (44-63) have won six consecutive series to begin the second half of 2016. Tonight at 7:05, the Reds will begin a 9-game road trip against the Pittsburgh Pirates (53-53). The Pirates have lost 5 of 6, and are quickly falling out of contention. They are 12.5 games out of the division, and are 3.0 games out of the second wild card spot.

Starting Pitchers


Anthony DeSclafani survived some trade rumors around the deadline. He is coming off a brilliant start against the Padres on Saturday (6.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 6 K). Disco will look to continue his great start to 2016 against the Pirates tonight. He has fared well against the Pirates in four career starts, posting a 2.59 ERA with 18 K and 7 BB. All four of those starts came last season. McCutchen, Polanco, Harrison, and Marte are a combined 5 for 33 against him.

Jameson Taillon is the Pirates #4 prospect, and is the #28 best prospect in baseball (according to MLB Pipleline). Taillon made his MLB debut on June 8th, and has done a nice job for the Pirates. He has a fastball that can reach the high 90’s, and has shown great command so far in the big leagues. The Pirates are really hoping he can help out their rotation, which ranks 24th in the MLB with a 4.79 ERA.

Starting Lineup

Reds Pirates
1. Billy Hamilton (CF)
2. Zack Cozart (SS)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Adam Duvall (LF)
5. Brandon Phillips (2B)
6. Scott Schebler (RF)
7. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
8. Tucker Barnhart (C)
9. Anthony DeSclafani (P)
1. Josh Harrison (2B)
2. Starling Marte (LF)
3. Andrew McCutchen (CF)
4. Matt Joyce (RF)
5. David Freese (3B)
6. John Jaso (1B)
7. Francisco Cervelli (C)
8. Jordy Mercer (SS)
9. Jameson Taillon (P)

Joey, Joey, Joey

Joey Votto had his career high 17-game hit streak snapped yesterday, but he has still been the best hitter in baseball since the all-star break.

Other news and notes

67 thoughts on “Reds at Pirates – August 5, 2016

  1. Who would like to see Eugenio Suarez swap positions in the Batting order with Brandon Phillips?

    And leave Senzel in Low A for the rest of the season. Let Senzel and Oakey get comfortable playing professional baseball at this level. Next year, High A, then to Double A if they (either or both) tear up High A. 2018 start AAA, and be a phone call away from the Show.

    • I’d like the Reds to be a bit more aggressive than that with Senzel. I think he should be in A+ now to set up a potential start in AA next season.

      • Agreed. He seems like he has the ability to play up there at AA now. I hope the team takes a more aggressive approach.

    • Oh, forgot to say this…

      Until Schebler gives us a reason not to bat him 5th, I think he should bat 5th followed by Suarez and Phillips!

      • I’d go Suarez in the 5 spot, followed by Phillips then Schebler. I agree that Suarez needs to be moved up based on the past month.

  2. A few weird Scott Schebler stats.

    When considering all MLB hitters with at least 80 PA (403 players), there are only 24 players with a line drive % less than 15%. Schebler’s is 7.4%.

    When considering all MLB hitters with at least 80 PA (403 players), there are only 23 players with a pull % higher than 50%. Schebler’s is 63%.


    • the way he is squaring up the ball since his recall, I think that small sample size will be changing soon, just like his batting average has gone up 40 points this week.

      he is flat scalding the ball

  3. I wonder if they keep the ball if your first hit is originally just an error. Kind of sad if they didn’t.

  4. Votto with a wRC+ of 240 over the last 18 games. Is that even legal? The streak I was disappointed to see end was the reaching base two or more times in a game. 15 in a row if I’m not mistaken. What’s the record for that? Dang. Go Reds!

  5. Winning series after series is fun! Is it meaningless baseball? Yes…but at the same time its good for all these young guys to establish a different culture together and build some chemistry. The Twins just scored about 40 runs on Cleveland. It beats just playing out the string like zombies!!

  6. BP!!! RBI single.
    Weird that Pirates were shading him to pull and up the middle.

  7. Brilliant shift there by Hurdle! BP’s grounder was exactly to the spot where the 2nd baseman is! Why shift up the middle when your starter is throwing 96 mph? Stupid but we’ll take it!!

  8. I’m not at a TV, but is Disco struggling with control? GameDay has him throwing more balls than strikes.

  9. Suarez has been a little better as of late, made a couple of very nice plays at home vs the Cards the other day, but the Reds have to nip this in the bud before Opening Day next year. That just CAN’T happen on a routine ground ball, while the Bucs didn’t score, it still cost Disco about 8 pitches on his pitch count because Joyce extended the at bat. And in the end could cost Disco an entire IP tonight. I hope he concentrates on nothing but defense in the off season. I’m sure Mes is taking notice, and he better be. Tucker is getting better and better, has really transformed himself into a respectable hitting catcher. And his defense is off the charts.

  10. I’m all about the Redlegs winning, but these wins are going to cost us a few spots in the draft in the end. That’s about all it amounts to. Still can’t believe the Reds didn’t trade Straily. Could’ve took a chance on some mid level prospect, Remember, Duvall was a mid level prospect at best.

    • I’m still waiting for anyone to say that there was one team even mildly interested in Dan Strailey. We could’ve given him away but it doesn’t look like anybody wanted to trade with us for him.

    • there is no way I trade Straily now.

      we won’t get his value back in a trade.

      We have a bunch of youngin’s in our staff who may go all Cody Reed at any moment.

      Regardless of those pesky stats, he is 6-6, 3.8 ERA and his last 2 starts have been really major league quality. And trading teams will look at his advanced stats and offer us 3 boxes of cracker jacks. Don’t get me wrong, I think there is a lot of value in 3 boxes of cracker jacks (and 3 surprises) but even that is not enough for Dan.

      This guy will not give up his spot easily as he competes. Maybe he will become nicknamed GEICO on this staff, but I know of about 20 pitchers that we used this year that should not have been on this team.

      This guy belongs

    • We had this same conversation a day or two ago. Ain’t gonna get anything for Straily. He’s worth more in performance, now and the future.

  11. I hate to say it but Taillon is what I want to see in a young prospect. He throws hard and he has good breaking stuff. He comes inside on righties and isn’t scared. He’s got slightly better stuff then Disco and he’s younger. I just don’t see it in Reed! He’s got to retool his game…get some help from Price and Power. Develop some breaking stuff!

  12. Well let me criticize are terrible and I mean terrible offense tonight.We stink against a minor leaguer again.Now go score against their bullpen.

  13. Tough way to lose.Pirates had lost 5 out of 6 and are not playing well at all.

  14. Heart of your lineup coming up if you get out of the 9th. Why is Raisel Iglesias not in the game?

      • What was Price thinking yesterday! He has never had a feel for the pitching staff which is so weird to me! I don’t understand?

  15. Ohlendorf has pitched his way off the team. Like the wind up/hate the first batter HR’s.

  16. Heartbreaker, but the bullpen is the last place you spend your resources.

    JJ Hoover — Bye

    Ohlendorf — See ya

    Jumbo Diaz — Double secret probation

    Iglesias is still tender produce. Have to be careful with him and Lorenzen.

  17. Everyone battles their rear ends off to tie the game and Ohlenbeef blows it with the first batter again. Get him the *#$$_ off my baseball team… immediately!! Why not bring up a situational lefty and give Sampson the spot that Ohlenbeef can’t perform in!

  18. There are two possibilities:

    1) Raisel Iglesias was available to pitch the ninth and Price chose to use Ohlendorf instead.

    2) Raisel Iglesias was not available to pitch the ninth because he pitched two innings in the 7-0 game yesterday.

    I am not sure whether 1) or 2) is worse.

  19. Why the Reds lost tonight is 3 fold….

    1 – Olendorf has no business in the major leagues, ESPECIALLY in the 9th inning.
    2 – Once again, Bryan Price got the candy taken right out of his hands. I was SCREAMING at the tv so loud for Price to call a pitch out on that squeeze that my wife came running in from the bedroom asking what was wrong? I just said, “Bryan Price is a moron” We have the worst major league manager in baseball and prob the worst in the last 50 years.
    3 – The most surprising, LOAFING. If Tucker busts it out of the box like a major leaguer should do EVERY AT BAT, he is safe at first.

  20. I used to get mad at Paul Wilson getting hammered….and Eric Milton and JJ Hoover….. I no longer get mad at watching Ross Ohlendorf. The Reds stunk in 2004 because they had too many players who could not play professional baseball. I don’t players for collection a check the Reds FO pays them. Ross Ohlendorf is not a professional baseball pitcher….Of course he lost the game…..Ultimately, that’s not Bryan Price’s fault… need 25 players….Ohlendorf would have lost tomorrow’s game or Sundays game or Mondays game or some combination of the 3….If you cant pitch….you cant pitch. Ohlendorf wont play for any team after this year….because he cant pitch.

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