Game Thread

Reds vs Cardinals – August 3, 2016

The Cincinnati Reds look to win their 6th consecutive series in a row this evening in game #2 of this three game series against the 2nd place St. Louis Cardinals.

STARTING PITCHERS

PITCHER ERA FIP HR/9 BB% K%
Michael Wacha 4.38 3.71 0.9 7.4% 19.6%
Cody Reed 7.07 6.05 2.5 8.1% 21.5%

Twenty-five year old righty Michael Wacha has consistently thrown around 100 pitches per start, lasting about six innings and giving up two to four runs. He’s only thrown more than 100 pitches in six of his 21 starts and his only thrown seven or more innings four times.

The Reds will likely go to their bullpen for at least one-third of the game, also. Twenty-three year old lefty Cody is Reed is also on a pitch count and has been lasting about four to six innings. Still looking for his 1st career major league victory, as the Reds have lost all seven of Reed’s starts.

STARTING LINEUPS

Zack Cozart is out of the lineup for another day. Meanwhile, backup centerfielder Tyle Holt (.217/.295/.252) is getting his first start since June 19th and batting leadoff. Actually, I’ll stop short of complaining because almost everyone on the team not named Joey Votto is at or under a .300 OBP.

CARDINALS REDS
1. Tommy Pham (CF)
2. Jedd Gyorko (3B)
3. Stephen Piscotty (RF)
4. Matt Holliday (LF)
5. Brandon Moss (1B)
6. Jhonny Peralta (SS)
7. Yadier Molina (C)
8. Greg Garcia (2B)
9. Michael Wacha (P)
1. Tyler Holt (CF)
2. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Adam Duvall (LF)
5. Brandon Phillips (2B)
6. Scott Schebler (RF)
7. Ivan De Jesus (SS)
8. Tucker Barnhart (C)
9. Cody Reed (P)

REDS 2017 CHANCES
Homer Bailey expressed great disappointment in the Reds trade of Jay Bruce. It wasn’t just about folding on the 2016 season, but Bailey thinks the team had a chance to compete in 2017 much the way they did in 2010:

“I think it’s kind of like you see the balloon getting bigger, and then, all of a sudden, you poke a hole in it,” Bailey said.

ELIAS SPORTS FACTS
Votto’s hot streak, courtesy of ESPN:

Votto is hitting .519 since the break and has hit safely in all 16 games over that span. Only one other player since the first All-Star Game in 1933 hit safely in his first 16 games after the break with a batting average of .500 or better, per the Elias Sports Bureau. That was the Dodgers’ Brett Butler in 1992.

And that game winning homer:

With his game-ending homer on Tuesday, Scott Schebler became the seventh Reds rookie in franchise history to hit a walk-off HR; Todd Frazier in 2012 was the most recent. But he’s the first to do so with Cincinnati trailing at the time of the hit, per the Elias Sports Bureau.

MINOR LEAGUE AWARDS
As Doug Gray noted yesterday, several Reds minor leaguers received awards this week for their stellar recent performances.

– Last night’s hero, Scott Schebler, was named the International League Player of the Month for July. Schebler had a .359/.436/.689 slash line in July which included eight doubles, four triples and six homeruns. Add an August major league homerun to his recent hot streak!

– The Southern League (AA) Pitcher of the Week was Penscola’s Sal Romano. He threw seven innings of 1-hit, shutout baseball on July 29th against the Montgomery Biscuits. Romano didn’t walk a batter and struck out six in the contest. Over his last four starts, Romano has pitched 24.2 innings, allowing just 11 hits, three walks and striking out 24.

– The Southern League (AA) Hitter of the Week was Penscola’s Zach Vincej. Vincej went 10-for-20 and an overall slash line of .500/.583/.750. In 101 July plate appearances, Vincej hit .370/.426/.587.

– The Florida State League (A+) Player of the Week was Daytona’s Reydel Medina. Medina hit 12-for-25 en route to a .480/.500/.960 slash line.

CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
All in favor of the Reds spoiling the Cardinals post season chance say “AYE!”

GO REDS!

92 thoughts on “Reds vs Cardinals – August 3, 2016

  1. Funny timing–Peraza gets sent down just before Cozart’s injury might have given him a couple of consecutive days playing…

    • Sure is frustrating. At least we know he’ll get a start nearly every day for the rest of the AAA season. That is, in my book, a good thing.

      • I think the point of sending him down is to get time playing with Herrera.

        I think along the same lines of the Braves sending Albies down from AAA to AA to get playing time with Swanson.

        • I doubt that is the point at all. It’s too smart sounding to be attributed to the team that said on 4-5 separate occasions that Peraza should be in AAA if he can’t get 4ish starts a week in MLB. It took the Reds 2 months to follow their own instructions.

          Also, the Reds anointing Peraza as the SS of the future and Hererra as the 2B of the future with 1 transaction seems way out of their character.

          If I was betting on it, I’d say it was just a coincidence and they finally realized that Peraza should be in AAA playing every day, while the 2nd least valuable hitter in MLB starts every day.

  2. There was some griping about bullpen management after last nights game. Any chance Price was looking ahead to today’s game thinking maybe he’d need to Use Iggy and/or Lorenzen for multiple innings with Reed slated to start?

      • You really think he’s such a zombie that he can’t think one day in advance?

        • Why would he be looking forward to today’ game when yesterday’s game was still on the line? Putting in Ohlendorf and Wood in high leverage situations when better options were available was simply inexcusable.

    • While I believe they would prefer to win any given game than lose, its still a rebuilding year…..you still need to occasionally use the wrong guy in the wrong spot to see what he can do. My guess is last night was an example of that in action.

      • Perhaps waiver show case night for those (other) teams who did not quite get the job done before the deadline? If so, it was pretty much a bust from the Reds point of view.

    • Certainly possible, but if so, that is unfortunate. You never know what tomorrow brings. You should always maximize the chances to win today. Maybe Reed has his first good game and goes 8 innings and you waste 2 days of all your best relievers. Always win the game in front of you…something Price and Baker don’t get.

      • Well, the first two batters tonight don’t portend good things for Mr. Reed again.

    • I just think he felt the Cards are a bigger series and they are in the playoff hunt, he wants to go with 30 something castoffs rather than his 3 best relievers. I imagine Cingrani pitches the 9th with a lead or tie game, maybe Iglesias was held out another day since he pitched 3 innings 3 days ago, but why do that if he cannot be used in a high leverage 1 run game?
      Did not understand why Lorenzen was not out there in the 7th let alone the 8th

  3. I echo Patrick about winning today.Dusty was famous for his get away day and day game after a night game lineups along with the closer rules and my guys can’t pitch any more then an inning on 3 straight days garbage.You play every game to win and that’s it.Price has pitched guys more then an inning but then they don’t pitch for two or three days after that so its the same thing,More and more I am beginning to agree with CHUCK SHICK in that mangers make little or no diiference in the outcome of a game.Last night was a prime example in that even using the B relievers the Reds won anyway.Over a 162 game schedule you win some you shouldn’t and lose some you shouldn’t not because of the manager but because of the players.

  4. I really wish someone could explain to me why BP is batting 5th when he has an OBP of .298 and is slugging .367 not to mention that he hasn’t hit a HR since May 7th? I understand that Price is not an analytics guy, but those facts are not hard to digest. In this lineup he should be in the 7 hole just in front of De Jesus. I accept that BP has been anointed the starting job with no competition, but this is just plain ridiculous.

  5. I am disappointed to learn there is a team called the Montgomery Biscuits and I didn’t know that. Outstanding. Go Reds.

  6. Jay hits a 3 run shot in Yankee Stadium tonite. Suarez is my Reds pick to click tonite!!

  7. Can’t figure out why he has such good control in the minors, but can’t hit the broad side of a barn in the bigs. Gotta be in his head…

    • He is trying it hit the corners because when he throws a strike it gets hit. Hard !

      • Yea, I notice that everything he throws is the same speed. The 4 seamers and sliders all seem like I keep seeing 88 to 90. All I know is I have the MLB minor league feed and I’ve watched a couple of games he pitched and he wasn’t all over the place like this. It’s like he completely lost his control. Those pitches over the plate are getting tatooed cause they are all coming in like a batting practice fastball.

  8. Reed has to go back down…..must.go.back.down.period! I’m all for taking your lumps but its been Hostel Part 1 and 2 for him. He can’t even get out lefties because he can’t/won’t pitch inside to them and he doesn’t have anything soft. Bring him back in Sept if you want.

    Easy solution too….Sampson outpitched Reed at AAA and he has good stuff….plus he’s still young. Give him a shot!!

    • Sampson has had his shots. These guys including Jumbo and Hoover do great at AAA but blow in the big show. Lamb got demoted and now Reed needs to. Bring Stephenson up. He did well here. I don’t care thst he is walking people in AAA. It’s results we want here not Louisville.

      • Sampson did well in his spot start….he’s looked better this year than last! He dominated at AAA this year. He’s still young! No way he’d be worse than Simon was in he was starting earlier

  9. Ok….everyone keeps talking about how Brandon is hurt……its a fact he plays better when given some regular rest……just doesnt make sense from any baseball perspective

    • If only we had traded for 25 middle infielders over the last couple of years….

    • That is if you have to play him period. Jockety and Price both said there will not be any competition as long as he is here so I guess that means injured or healthy.

      • What I’m reasonably sure Walt, Price, Williams and Bob C. want to say:

        ” BP is taking playing time away from someone who will help us in the future. We tried to trade him….twice…. and he said no. We had to give him every opportunity to keep his job in order to avoid a miserable clubhouse and bad PR.

        Also, since he vetoed 2 trades, we can’t bench him without showing that we’re not exacting retribution….or the union will be all over our ass. They won’t win, but it will look bad. He’s playing himself out of a job….which is exactly what we want to have happen. He’s making the case to be benched.

        Lastly, the Reds have historically screwed up the departures of our greatest minority players. Some of that was controllable, some not….but, we don’t want to be the guys that screw this up again.

        We’re making progress with the roster and treating a great…extremely popular player with respect. While we ultimately need to make “tough decisions” handling it the way we have has given us plenty of air cover for when that day happens. No one can say we were unfair…no one can say we were racially insensitive….no one can say we don’t care about our great players. “

        • You do make some valid points. It was really pathetic the way we treated Larkin at the end. Of course that was different management. I think the really big point here is that if we benched him to play the kids — no matter how legit the motive — he would have filed a grievance with the union and things could have gotten ugly. You have to admit, though, that he has to be close to being benched. As I type this, he finally gets a hit and then gets picked off. Is that because he’s injured too?

  10. Big play by Schebler there on that throw out! I think the Cards read that scouting report and tried to grab an extra bag on him but he got there fast and was accurate. I think the Reds win if Price wants to go with the A team relievers tonite. That’s a big IF??

  11. I am watching Blaze with my three-year-old. But I’ve been told that there have been three plays at home. Is that true?

    • Yeah…Cards keep sending guys on contact from 3rd. DeJesus made a couple of nice plays

      What was BP doing there? Surely they won’t go into 2017 with him blocking guys? He has zero left….nothing. I don’t think he’s even healthy. Just DL him and let him coast for a while. Totally ignorant at any time but especially in a rebuild when you have 2-3 middle infielders being blocked

  12. Reed could’ve given up 9-10 earned tonite easily! I’ve never seen a pitcher hit as hard as often as he has been! Even Simon walked some guys which led to his problems but with Reed its just rocket after rocket. Give the kid a break and send him down!!!!

  13. Bryan Price is charmed tonight. Hes made some really bizarre moves that have just happened to have worked out. Doesnt mean they are smart moves.

    • Just 8 inches more towards the line and its a hit but it still set up Suarez/Votto for the rbi. Leadoff double from your pitcher and strand him really hurts!!

    • Correction, little league triple on the reversal…bad call IMO. They need to get this run

  14. 2 solid innings by Smith. Something you can look back on as a big contribution to their comeback win they are about to lay on Louie.

  15. Price gets lucky when he sends up Josh Smith to hit for some unknown reason. Josh does well but why are they holding back Iggy and Lorenzen? Spoiling the Padres 4th place is no fun…..we want to beat the Cardinals! The Cardinal way and all that #$*$(

    If they sent down Reed then they prob wouldn’t need to mop-up men….can’t even get work for Sampson/Smith both now. That would give them another bat off the bench. Winning today is always sort of secondary to the Reds for some reason….even when we’re not rebuilding

  16. Lorenzen mows them down quickly again. He was wild in SD but usually its a quick inning of Ks or groundballs including a double-play. He needs to start because he has the stuff to pitch to contact and still get people out and eat up innings

  17. Siegrist is tough on leftys. SS had the right idea on the pitch before he struck out, trying to go opposite field…just missing a double

  18. We beat the Cards in game 1 on a Votto walk-off HR at gabp the first time we played them and lost the series. We never seem to step up vs the Cards? Josh Smith leadoff double and we didn’t score….that was it in the end

      • We beat the Pirates all the time and they’ve been good. We couldn’t beat St. Louis when we 90+. They just seem to own us

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