Titanic Struggle Recap

Bruce continues to mash, Reds win 7-5

Jay Bruce is not going out quietly.

The Reds slugger is amidst swirling trade rumors with the deadline next Monday, but he didn’t let that slow him down. He hit two more home runs tonight. AT&T Park in San Francisco is known a pitchers park, but it was anything but tonight. The Reds and Giants combined to hit four home runs, and the Reds outlasted the Giants in a slugfest 7-5. The Reds are now 7-3 in the second half.

Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (39-60) 7 9 0
San Francisco Giants (58-41) 5 7 1
W: DeSclafani (6-0) L: Peavy (5-9) S: Cingrani (11)
FanGraphs Win Probability | Box Score | Game Thread

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Player of the Game

Bruce Giants

Jay Bruce: 2 for 4, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 0.48 WPA

Bruce continues to crush baseballs. He hit his 22nd and 23rd home runs of the season tonight. Bruce is getting hot at the right time before the trade deadline. Over his last 3 games, he is 6 for 12 with 4 HR and 11 RBI.

Positives

Eugenio Suarez hit his 17th home run of the season. He also had a leadoff double and scored in the 9th inning. Suarez has certainly had an up and down season, but 17 home runs for a 25 year old infielder is a good thing.

Billy Hamilton only went 1 for 5, but that 1 hit was a suicide squeeze in the 9th inning to give the Reds a big insurance run.

Joey Votto now has a 10-game hitting streak right out of the all-star break. He had a hit and walk tonight, and his OPS is now up to .901. It is the first time this season that Votto’s OPS has reached .900+.

Brandon Phillips extended his hitting streak to 13 games. He went 1 for 4.

Adam Duvall had two walks. He entered today with a 5.3 BB%, so two walks for him is nice to see.

Raisel Iglesias continues to impress in the bullpen. He pitched two more perfect innings with 2 strikeouts. His numbers as a reliever are staggering: 20.1 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 9 BB, 23 K, 0.45 ERA.

Jumbo Diaz pitched a perfect 6th inning with a strikeout. Tony Cingrani gave up a leadoff single, but pitched a scoreless 9th for his 11th save of the season.

Negatives

Anthony DeSclafani didn’t have his best stuff tonight. He looked good early, allowing just 1 run through the first three innings. He however gave up two bombs in the 4th and 5th. His final line: 5.0 IP, 6 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 6 K.

Not so random thoughts……..

Bailey

It sounds like Homer Bailey will be back in the Reds rotation this weekend.  Bailey made his sixth rehab start for the Louisville Bats today, and finished with a line of: 4.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 4 K, 98 pitches, 57 strikes. Jason Linden was in Louisville tonight, and shared his observations earlier tonight:

I was at the Bats game tonight and spoke with Homer Bailey after the game. This will be a brief write-up, but I want to get the relevant stuff out as quickly as possible.

Homer didn’t have a great game today, but it was good enough. He threw 98 pitches. His velocity sat in the 93-95 mph range with several pitches at 96 and one at 97. His control was a little dodgy as he allowed 4 walks and only threw 4 1/3 innings. The defense, however, was less than stellar and that also contributed to his elevated pitch count.

I asked if he felt he had anything left to do in Louisville and he said, “Leave.” He also said he will be catching a plane to San Francisco tomorrow to join the Reds.

Up Next:

Reds at Giants
Tuesday, 10:15 PM
TV: FOX Sports Ohio
Cody Reed (6.75 ERA) vs Matt Cain (5.88 ERA)

49 thoughts on “Bruce continues to mash, Reds win 7-5

  1. Sounds like Homer Bailey isn’t a fan of Louisville. Either that or he is just excited to get back to the majors. That is always good to see.

  2. Bruce is getting hot at the right time before the trade deadline.

    Great! Let’s trade him for a pair of B level reliever prospects!

    • What’s that? Ah — a pair of B level reliever prospects? Don’t talk about — a pair? You kidding me? A pair? I just hope we can get one cast-off never has been/never will be prospect!

        • We could go with this meme all day, it fits so well…

          “And that was a disgraceful trade in my opinion. We threw that trade. We gave Chapman away by doing that. We gave them the friggin’ player. In my opinion, that sucked. “

  3. The news of the Yankee return on the Chapman trade had me too depressed about the Reds to watch last night’s game, but looks like I missed a good one.

    When Iglesias is available for 2 innings, the bullpen becomes a weapon.
    The addition of Iglesias and Lorezen has calmed down the decent relievers, who are now pitching to their potential. And it’s enabled the Reds to send the worst of them back to AAA.

  4. Mlb.com has Votto’s OPS at .895 and Bruce at .889. Votto will end the season higher than .900, Bruce has a shot.

    In that Bruce might be staying, here’s a question:
    When was the last time the Reds had two players with a .900+ OPS ?
    (If the Reds get a fair offer for Bruce, trade him, but I’m not sure that’s happening.
    Not much demand for corner OFers.)

  5. Hamilton’s bunt single to score a run a thing of beauty.
    And the two outs of his that I saw on video were on hard ground balls that Crawford and the 2nd baseman had to make good plays on.
    Just keep hitting line drives and hard ground balls, Billy.

  6. Duvall draws 2 walks against the team that let him go. Actually, he has 21 now, and the only player on the Reds with more than 27 is Votto. Unbelievable.

    • Duvall also hit a long fly ball that would have been a homer at GABP but died in the glove of the right fielder at AT&T. …

      The Reds’ announcers have seemed a bit surprised at Duvall’s opposite-field power this season, but the Giants’ announcers weren’t surprised at all. But they were rather backhandedly questioning his home run total just because he plays at GABP. Though from what I recall, he doesn’t hit a lot of cheapies at GABP.

  7. Bruce is getting hot at the right time before the trade deadline.

    Does anyone think Jay Bruce is worth more because he’s had a great 3 game stretch? His potential suitors care what he’ll do for them….not the Reds…so a stretch of extreme outsized production only increases the probability that he’ll have a mean reversion period next week.

    • I don’t think he wants to leave the Reds, but this is only business…

    • All you can hope is that somebody gets emotional. Hopefully, some team executive somewhere looks at what Bruce has done and says, “We need that right now. Pay the Reds.”

      Of course, given recent negotiations, “paying the Reds” is probably accompanied by a good belly laugh.

    • Makes sense. That said, if I were GM, I’d be on the phone after every game “Bruce with 2 more HR tonight. He could have hit them for your team and helping you win the pennant if we had made a deal. Do you have a counter offer in mind?” Or something of that nature. Maybe with a new team that may be interested you go with “… He could be hitting them for your team and helping you win your division. We kinda like and and maybe one of . What do you think?” At that point you either get a yes, a counter-offer or a hang up (in which case you were asking WAY too much to start.”

      • Whoops, the software thought I was using HTML tags. That should be “We kinda like “player a” and “player b” and maybe one of “players c d and e”.”

    • A great 3 game stretch? I am not sure I understand that mind set he has had a solid first half with the average and you add to it the power and for todays idiotic contracts he is a steal. I am sure that someone knowing it is the Reds will steal him. I mean if he takes one of those Jay Bruce type swoons he is still gonna be in the 40 HR neighborhood and if he drops to an anemic 230 average at his salary he is still a bargain. He has been inconsistent throughout his career and combined with unreal expectations and a small flood of available OF I don’t care if he is traded or not. I think he is presenting himself about as well as can ever be expected but maybe the market will be higher in the off season or next trade deadline, I doubt it but I would like to see the Joke of a FO quit giving talent away.

  8. I wonder what the roster move is going to be to get Bailey back in 40-man and 25-man rosters. There’s already an open spot in the rotation, so maybe Waldrop is sent down again but somebody else must be DFA’d or transfer to 60-man DL.

    • I’d get rid of Ohlendorf or Josh Smith. They could send Finnegan down if they don’t want to put him in the pen but they should pull him out of the rotation for Bailey. I hope they leave Sampson in the rotation for a while because he has good stuff but doesn’t seem to be that good of a reliever.

  9. Duvall 2 walks as noted but also crushed a long out to CF that went about 415. That’s a big park!

    I thought they pushed Disco a little too hard last start….8 ip, 114 pitches in 90+ degrees & high humidity. It may have caught up to him last night but he needs a little fine tuning vs lefties! Straily needs to help him w/the changeup or something?

    • That game may well have taken a lot out of him. I was just sitting in the stands in section 119 (down the LF line) and I was burning up and exhausted when I got home.

  10. Great job by Bruce and the pen with 4 innings of 1 hit baseball.Disco will be fine but I wondered why he went back out in the eight of his last start as well.Reds were up by 4 and he had threw 101 pitches after 7 innings plus we had an off day the next day.Of course he hasn’t been overworked in the big leagues but it seems 100 pitches is the magic number now a days regardless of anything else.

  11. Bruce is worth more to the Reds then another team and that underlines the problem we have with Jocketty at the helm.The Reds don’t appear to think they have anybody that can provide the production that Jay can or he would be here playing or at least auditioning.Other teams know this as well and won’t give us much talent since we can’t afford to pay him what he will be worth on the open market after 2017.Its a classic blunder that Walt and gang continue to do and that is not developing the minor leagues so you can trade guys before they hit the big bucks.Many other people have said the same thing on this site and they are right as rain.Problem is our front office just doesn’t get it because they keep rolling the dice and now you have Bruce,Cosart and BP that we can’t afford to pay or already pay too much for little of no production(BP).This is on the front office to insure these things never happen with any players but they have let it happen with almost everybody.

  12. Great game. Great win. Suarez’ power impressive. If Reds can’t get fair value for Bruce, they need to try to extend him – what a season from him. Tucker’s play to pick off Pena? Sublime. Billy’s bunt wasn’t even that good, and he still beat out the hit.

    What’s the opposite of a Milton? Because this game fit the bill.

    • “What’s the opposite of a Milton? Because this game fit the bill.”

      What a great comment!!

  13. For the life of me… I wonder why people are so adamant about trading Bruce. He is 29 years old and does not want to leave. Is there anyone that thinks we can replace this production. He would bring us no more than Duvall would. I would be busting my butt to sign him to an extension. He wants to say… give him a significant no trade rider and see if he takes 3-51 or something along those lines. Let me repeat this…. he is 29 and is not injured anymore. Want to trade someone…. trade Duvall. Either Bruce or Winker can move to left.

    • I don’t think 3/$51 gets it done. I think he’ll want 4 more years or 5 counting his 2017 option.

    • Here’s hoping that the Reds and Jay Bruce can come to a 3 or 4 year extension. The Reds offense is starting to click and it’s not time to break it up.

  14. It’s time for Stephenson. He has got about 65 innings before he bumps his limit…. they should be here. You want to see what you have? Finnegan running on fumes.

  15. I’ve been saying this for awhile but Bruce is plenty good and still young enough that I would rather see him extended as a known, positive offensive force than traded for prospects. The Reds don’t have enough offense in the pipeline to gamble with Bruce’s bat. Just my opinion of course. On the flip side I’m fine to see Cozart traded for the right return. And for me the guy whose current hot bat might prove fortuitous is Phillips. Surely a stud glove man on a 13 game hitting streak will have the offers lining up, right? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Sigh. My fear is that they will keep the wrong guys (Cozart and Phillips) and ship the wrong guys for a disappointing return – see Chapman, A. It’s going to be a nervous week watching the trade wire.

    • I’m not sure, barring injury to some other team’s starting SS, that there is a market for Cozart right now. I also have big doubts that Brandon is going to accept a trade anywhere and it’s his right to veto. Not sure the market for corner outfielders is good which limits the return on Bruce so I won’t be surprised if he is still here Aug 1st.

    • It’s fun to watch Bruce right now, but is he rally a ‘known, positive offensive force’?

      The thing about Bruce hitting well coming out of the All-Star break is that he was due for a cold streak, such as he has endured in past years. Other teams might not be so sure of what they’re getting. But he is making a believer out of me.

      • He had a small cold spell and then got hot again. Knocking on wood here but he seems to have been able to snap out of his slumps a lot quicker this year.

  16. I know that pitcher wins are a meaningless or deceptive stat, but this is too good not to share.

    DeSclafani has started 9 games and won 6. He now leads the team in wins.

    Finnegan and Straily each have 5 wins, but they’ve done it in 38 combined starts.

    All other Reds pitchers have started 52 games — with only 7 wins.

    This means that DeSclafani accounts for only 9% of all starts, but 26% of all wins by starters.

  17. Bruce = 3 year Extension.
    Iglesias = Rotation is calling his name. With about 13 starts remaining, let Iglesias go about 5-6 innings a start. That would give him 65-78 innings from the rotation to add to his 20 now. That still would give him less than 100 innings pitched for the season and have him ready for 2017.

    • I think the same thing about Lorenzen and he’s bigger/stronger than Raisel for what that’s worth. Every out with Lorenzen pitching the other day was a groundball or a K! Make 1 of them a starter and the other one a 100+ inning setup man or closer!

    • Given his history of arm issues to this point when starting, what leads you to believe he can ever be a starter?

      • They are putting him on a strengthening regimen this winter, sort of like Homer Bailey between the 2011 and 2012 seasons. Bailey came in to 2012 noticeably bigger and stronger. The same should be true for Iglesias.

  18. Yesss… Extension for Bruce…3 or 4 years…. The next year: Bruce in RF, Hamilton in CF and Winkler in LF, Duvall in 3b and Suarez in 2b with Peraza play in SS….this is the future team…

    • This would have my vote as well. The only logjam would be Mesoraco (presumably in LF), but that may have to play out unless front office has more of an idea of his odds returning as a C than us fans.

  19. I thought the Jays might have been an option for Bruce, but they just picked up Melvin Upton.

    You would give Bruce a four-year extension? As a fan favorite, sounds great. But if this year’s consistency proves to be an outlier, we’d be stuck with a guy who we couldn’t trade because he would have reached his 10 and 5 rights.

    • Or what if this is another run of 4 years where he is 30/100 all star?

      Granted the past 2 years have been a challenge for Jay, but for all the downers on him, It is really hard to look at 5 healthy years in the past 7 and the production he produces.

      And I continue to say that he has a 40 HR season in him. We might be looking at it this year. And maybe 40 is selling him short. He is laying off of pitches this year that he would have offered at the last 2 years. And he is hitting to LF and Center Field which are huge for him. But just as Jay has helped Joey since he moved to the 4 spot, Duvall has not hurt Jay in the 5 spot.

      The miss was walt not extending him at a discount in the offseason

  20. The Cubs traded a reliever who has the same negative WAR number as Jumbo Diaz…a top rated prospect who they will likely never need and is still in A ball….and 2 marginal prospects who may or may not ever play a major league game.

    The Yankees gained nothing as far as anyone who could make them better this year…or likely next year. Will any of them have a better career than Rookie Davis? Perhaps…but as we sit here today, the Yankees traded Chapman for a Jumbo Diaz like pitcher and 3 guys who may play Major League Baseball someday.

    Time will tell.

    • True of any trade for prospects really. I’m not sure the SS is going to hit enough to be a star or even a starting MLB SS. He may end up as a solid utility guy. Then again, he may not make MLB at all. It’s always a guess. You just have to hope your scouts and analytics department are right about a guy a lot more often than they are wrong about a guy. That last part is where I worry about our Reds though.

      By the way Chuck. I agree and disagree with you seemingly an equal amount. What I must say though is even on those times where I disagree, you always seem to have a point and you always make a valid case.

  21. I watched Hamilton pop that 1st pitch out to short left field and needed my blood pressure medicine and 3 fingers of good Kentucky bourbon not in that order. He went 1 for 5 overall and his other at bats make me think he is getting it. I loved Bruce blasting a couple in a big ball park to take away the nay sayers comments about the GABP launching pad. The nicest surprise and impressive as well was Suarez his swing this year has been one long and looping hole and I have thought it was his approach. I thought mentally he went from a short compact swing of a middle infielder to loading up swing for the fence as a supposed power guy from the corner infield. The shot he hit last night was a short, level and compact swing that is his natural swing and he still had enough muscle to get it out of a pitchers park.

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