The first half is mercifully over. The Reds finished the first half with a record of 32-57. The 57 first half losses are the most in Reds history. The Reds .360 first half win percentage is the third worst in Reds history, and the worst since 1934.

Cody Reed and the Reds looked good in this one early. The Reds took a 3-2 lead on a Brandon Phillips two-RBI double in the fourth inning. Reed took that lead into the fifth inning, but he made one giant mistake to the Marlins slugger Giancarlo Stanton, and it was quickly 4-3. The Marlins tacked on three more runs off the Reds bullpen in the sixth inning, and would eventually win 7-3.

Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (32-57) 3 9 1
Miami Marlins (47-41) 7 10 0
W: Dunn (1-1) L: Reed (0-4)
FanGraphs Win Probability | Box Score | Game Thread


Biggest Play of the Game

According to Fangraphs WPA statistic (winning percentage added), the most important play of the game was Cody Reed allowing a 2-run home run to Giancarlo Stanton with 2 outs in the 5th inning, giving the Marlins a 4-3 lead. That play decreased the Reds chances of winning by 29.3% (from 61.3% to 32.0%).



Today was a positive start for Cody Reed. No, his final numbers (4.2 IP, 7 H, 1 HR, 3 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 4.25 FIP) weren’t great, but there were times that he looked pretty good. He had a few issues with command, and made on giant mistake to Giancarlo Stanton. He did strike out 7 batters in just 4.2 innings. Reed now has a very impressive 10.58 K/9 through his first five starts. Once he fine tunes a few things, he is going to be a really good starter.

Cozart Duvall

Jay Bruce and Zack Cozart each had two hits.

Raisel Iglesias continues to impress in the bullpen. He pitched two more scoreless innings, striking out four. Iglesias numbers as a reliever this season: 12.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 6 BB, 14 K, 0.74 ERA.


The Reds scored a total of 6 runs in this 3-game series.

Jay Bruce air-mailed a throw home in the second inning. He might not have been able to throw out the runner at home anyway, but his bad throw allowed the batter to get to second base. Maybe all those advanced statistics saying that Bruce is not longer a good defender are actually right.

Joey Votto had a couple of bad plays defensively. However, he didn’t have 16 errors today like the Reds radio broadcast might have made you think.

Not so random thoughts……………

The Reds were obviously really bad, historically bad this first half. It should come as no surprise to Reds fans either. They are in the middle of a rebuild. The second half will likely be just as bad, maybe even worse depending on who they trade at the deadline. Stay the course. I believe for the most part the Reds on the right direction. I certainly don’t agree with every decision they’ve made during the rebuild, but they have acquired a lot of really talented young players. They picked #2 this year, and they’ll pick around the same next year. Hopefully in a few years we will look back on this year and be thankful the Reds tore everything down, to build something special back up.

Jim Day had a pretty cool story about John Lamb on the broadcast. Yesterday, Lamb and catcher Ramon Cabrera were crossed up on a pitch. The ball bounced off Cabrera’s glove, and it allowed a run to score. It was scored an error on Cabrera. Lamb told reporters postgame that it was his fault, and that he had a “brain fart” by messing up Cabera’s sign. He then lobbied for the error to be changed to a wild pitch. The official scorer changed it to a wild pitch, and Lamb was charged with 3 ER instead of 2. That is pretty stand up of John Lamb. I already liked the guy, but now I like him even more.

Up Next:

Brewers at Reds
Friday, 7:10 PM
TV: FOX Sports Ohio
Anthony DeSclafani (2.23 ERA) vs Matt Garza (5.54 ERA)


All statistics used courtesy of Fangraphs, ESPN Stats & Info, and Baseball-Reference (including Baseball-Reference Play Index). All photos used courtesy of the Cincinnati Enquirer and are used by permission.

78 Responses

  1. Patrick Jeter

    Let’s hope a few days can recharge our mental batteries. Not sure how many of us can watch a lot more baseball like we saw today.

    • pinson343

      That was tough to watch, so many things. Votto didn’t make 16 errors today, but the two overturned calls were on routine plays that he screwed up. In particular, breaking toward second on a ground ball hit right to BP perhaps shows a lack of concentration.

      • VaRedsFan

        That particular play has happened way more than it should have over the past several seasons. It is a mental error regardless of whether the play is made cleanly or not. Physical errors are part of the game and can be forgiven. Mental errors need to be addressed by the coaching staff, so they don’t happen again. The question is, is Votto being told such things. Obviously not, since it keeps happening.

      • Playtowin

        Agree. Votto is veteran player. He is making too many bonehead plays. He is also striking out far to much for a guy who chokes up on the bat and prides himself on making contact.

      • redsfan2016

        This conversation has nothing to do with Votto’s batting this year, it was about his defensive play.

    • pinson343

      Agreed, having the passed ball changed to a wild pitch, never even heard of that.
      And he pitched a great game yesterday, Bruce’s misplay lost the game for him.

    • pinson343

      On Hechavarria’s scoring from 2n on the passed ball, I didn’t see it live and the video doesn’t show much of Barnhart. He went after the ball with some urgency but did he run full speed ? I don’t know.

      • StillRed

        Looked to me that he thought Joey was going to go after it…but Joey wasn’t

      • vegastypo

        From where that ball ended up, I don’t think anybody could have prevented the runner from scoring. Votto would have had to react instantaneously, and it took him a few seconds to realize what was going on. And that’s a long way to ask the catcher to run.

    • Chad Dotson

      Exactly how I’d describe it. Very classy by Lamb, and it’s the type of thing that will make him VERY popular in the clubhouse.

  2. pinson343

    With none out and their pitcher getting banged around, why is BP trying to score from 3rd ? Yes the bottom of the order was due up, but Barnhart has been hitting well.
    Naturally, after he’s out at the plate Barnhart and DeJesus both single.
    (Maybe out, why was there no challenge? The Marlin broadcasters assumed one was coming.)

    Five straight hits to lead off an inning and only 2 runs to show for it. The Reds AGAIN run themselves out of a chance for a big inning, and Price does nothing to pull back the reins.
    “Make them throw you out”, he says. The problem there is that this is the major leagues, not the little league, so they DO throw you out (except Hamilton and Peraza, let them run).

    • David

      This is what you call “Low IQ baseball”. The Reds seem to do that a lot. And BP is supposed to be a veteran and know better. I don’t think a lot of these guys are focused or care as much as they should. The losing gets corrosive to attitude after a while.
      The second half should be better. The bullpen is actually not terrible now (even though Josh Smith got rocked today).
      Jay Bruce will be gone in two weeks (or less), but Schebler should be up, and he is hitting well in AAA.
      Sit BP down half the week and play someone else at second. And nobody is going to take him in a trade unless the Reds pay about 75% of his salary.

      • Scotly50

        All the baserunning errors reflect on game management. aka Price

      • StillRed

        Don’t know if BP was sent or not…it does seem to be happening more frequently. BP may think he’s still go the speed to make those plays….but I don’t think he does anymore. I also agree with and am concerned about the corrosive comment above. I know they are pros but it must be frustrating…and maybe Joey’s wondering where he might rather be.

      • greenmtred

        Are you certain that BP ran on his own?

    • lwblogger2

      “The Contact Play” … The former player(s) color-analysts love it. Too bad it’s generally a bad idea because as you said, MLB players usually do throw the guy out.

      • Patrick Jeter

        I hate the contact play more than any other play in baseball. Even more than a bunt.

  3. Dean Forman

    Trade Brandon Phillips if you have to give him away for part of his $12,000,000 Salary. Use Peraza at shortstop and #1 pick Nick Senzel at second base bring up Bob Stephenson to pitch in the bigs, let these youngsters paly the rest of the year to put the Reds closer to contending, which could be next year if done right. Trade Bruce and Cozart , both will bring a bundle in talented youngsters. Play Jessie Winker in left and move Adam Duval to right. I’ liked Bryan Price as manager and with his pitching coach experience, thought he’d be ideal. Now I think it’s time to replace him with as close to a Lou Pinella manager that can be found. Some one who can keep the team excited.

    • DHud

      No way Senzel is in the bigs this year. Or probably next year for that matter

    • Chuck Schick

      The Reds have already traded Phillips…..twice…actually, 3 times….and he’s still here. .

      There is zero chance that Senzel will be called up this year and that is a good thing.

      There is no objective reason to believe that Cozart and Bruce will bring a bundle of talent. They should be moved, but they’re likely not worth very much.

      Pinella “types” only seem to be able to keep good teams excited. Lou’s Tampa teams didn’t seem to play with much excitement.

    • greenmtred

      Chris Welch was saying that the market for Bruce may not be strong–pitching more in demand by teams that will be buyers. I’m a big Cozart fan, but haven’t seen any speculation that he would bring a bundle of good prospects. Given his age and recent injury, I’d suspect that he won’t.

  4. pinson343

    Benching Phillips would have him asking for a trade, but Price won’t do it.
    Jay Bruce is my current favorite player, but the time to trade him is now. The trade value is there thanks to his hitting , and his deteriorating defense is a bad indicator of what’s to come as he ages.

    • Playtowin

      I have no idea what contending team would want Phillips? Not accepting the trade to the Nats was a huge mistake by Phillips. It was a lucky break for the Nats…they signed Daniel Murphy instead.

      • ohiojimw

        Phillips rejecting a trade to the Nats was only a huge error for him there was a reason for him do something in the Reds best interest that wasn’t necessarily in his own best interest.
        The higher cost of living in DC means that he would have been effectively taking a cut in pay to go there unless his deal was sweetened. This is not to mention moving costs and the likelihood of having to maintain two residences whether he kept his house in Cincy or established a different off season residence.

      • lwblogger2

        Keep in mind that somehow the Phillies were able to move Utley to the Dodgers last year and Utley wasn’t playing well at all and was making some $$. Someone might want BP. It’s not insane to think so.

  5. pinson343

    According to Mark Sheldon, Amir Garrett is close to being called up by the Reds. That would be exciting.

    • vegastypo

      Seriously? That raises all kinds of questions, like who gets bumped from the rotation? (Please don’t tell me they’d stick him in the bullpen.) … Does Finnegan go to the ‘pen because he is going to hit an innings limit soon? Would the Reds actually trade a starting pitcher when so many teams are looking for pitching?

      I’ve never thought Straily would fetch much on the trade market, but maybe packaged with Bruce or Cozart?

      I heard Chris Welsh say that when Garrett got to triple-A, “he was only a phone call away from the big leagues”. I wonder if Welsh had heard rumblings that this might happen sooner rather than later.

      • ohiojimw

        I think the Reds are heavy on left handed starting pitchers and need to get the situation sorted out, particularly if they are looking to maybe trade one for position talent. This could be moving the bus bringing Garrett to MLB into the fast lane.

        Garrett’s age and option status are also mitigating factors in moving him more quickly. 2016 is his age 24 season making him a year older than Reed and Finnegan. Garrett came through the minors a bit slowly because he also played NCAA D1 basketball through the 2014 season. Thus he has only one more season remaining as a possible option season.

        And just maybe the org learned from Robert Stephenson’s apparent regression after looking sharp in two MLB spots starts in April, that it doesn’t always pay to hold a guy back when he looks ready.

  6. pinson343

    Agree with David that the Reds will be better in the 2nd half even if they trade Bruce and Cozart. There are replacements for them and the bullpen is so much better with Iglesias and Lorenzen. Price using them 2 innings at a time, which is excellent.

    You’ve got to realize how many games the bullpen blew in the first half. Without Iglesias and Lorenzen, the Reds wouldn’t have won the 2 games in Chicago.

  7. sezwhom

    There’s always something “Bad” with this team. I know he hasn’t been given the pieces to make it work but I simply don’t have faith in Bryan Price going forward. Except for Straily, we don’t have a pitcher who can bunt. We’re hopelessly out of it yet Price always plays it by the book. So boring.

    • StillRed

      I agree…every pitcher should be a great bunter and ours are not…no excuse

  8. jaY jOHNSON

    A good manager walks Stanton with 2 outs and first base open to protect your rookie pitcher.

    Not our guy

    He leaves him vulnerable and bang Kid gives up a hr.

    Perfect example of this guy having no idea how to get the best out of his pitchers.

    He does everything possible to have his young kids fail.

    • kmartin

      Ozuna crushed a pitch for a double after Stanton so if Stanton had walked two probably would have scored.

      • StillRed

        Reed is up to learn…at some point he’s got to be able to pitch in that situation. Wins don’t matter.

      • Patrick Jeter

        Bingo! This year is about experience for our young pitchers. Almost like a prolonged spring training against real hitters.

      • jaY jOHNSON

        Who knows how he pitches to Ozuna in that ab.
        Dont you think he would dig in
        It would have been a far different ab after the walk than it was after his psyche was deflated after giving up that moonshot.
        I knew someone would have your response but its totally not the reality.
        I have said on quite a few occasions that a good manager sets his players up to be in the position thats the easiest for him to succeed.
        Price does just the opposite
        He puts his players,pitchers primarily, in the most difficult situations to test them.
        That might be a fair way to play it with a veteran but not a young thrower who needs his confidence strengthened.
        Price has done this same thing time and again.He is not the right guy for young inexperienced players.

      • jazzmanbbfan

        See what STILLRED said above. This is a time to see how Reed handles those difficult situations with tough hitters. Wins don’t matter this year and I think that has been made clear to the young starters. If Reed’s psyche is that fragile he won’t last in the Majors anyway.

      • kmartin

        “Dont you think he would dig in” — Oh, I see, he wasn’t digging in against Stanton.

      • jaY jOHNSON

        I didnt say he “didnt dig in against Stanton”.That was said about the reply that Ozuna got a hit after so it didnt matter.
        I certainly hope he dug in against Stanton.
        My point is for a young pitcher to gain confidence he needs to succeed.Putting him up against Stanton rather than Ozuna is not giving him the best opportunity to succeed.Thats my point,I know he is trying to learn how to handle difficult situations,but game 4 of his mlb career is a little aggresive for me.I guess thats where we disagree.I would rather see him learn a little slower.
        Why if what you are saying is true have they not brought Stephenson up to the bigs yet?Throw him into the fire and see how it works out.Not the way to do it in my opinion.

      • VaRedsFan

        I agree with Jay Johnson. Even the best pitchers in the league pitch around the best hitters. Why is it OK for our rookie pitcher to pitch to him. This is the reason other teams best hitters feast on Reds pitching…McCutchen, Rizzo, Bryant, Cargo….it’s a long list of guys that just kill it vs. the Reds. Read the stupid scouting report, or look at their baseball card backs.

    • Westfester

      It would’ve helped if Barnhardt had also protected Reed and not call slider, especially after Reed hung one the pitch before and got really lucky that Stanton missed that one. Barnhardt called the same pitch and Stanton does what good major league hitters do with hanging pitches, destroy them. That’s NOT on the manager. That’s lack of execution.

    • Dean Forman

      after issuing a 3 run Homer many times a young pitcher especially gets riled and gives up a hit or two.

  9. Gaffer

    3 out of 5 of our starters are from the Cueto trade. Unfortunately, they are not very good. It’s hard to be optimistic.

    • Patrick Jeter

      They are all young. Cueto wasn’t good until his mid-to-late 20s.

      • dan

        I rarely agree with Patrick but he is correct here. These young guys are finding their way in a lost season. It may take a few years for them to figure it out but when they do this pitching staff will be fantastic.

    • Nick Kirby

      Cueto had a 5.91 ERA through his first 8 big league starts. Patience my friend, patience.

  10. kmartin

    As much of Raisel Iglesias as possible in the second half please.

  11. streamer88

    I’m joining the angry mob on this one. Days like these are due to the lack of senior player leadership, and poor managerial leadership.

    Now, I’m not necessarily blaming Votto, but Scott Rolen would be going Scott Rolen on someone right now (or would’ve 2 months ago). And Mattheny, or Torre, or Pinella, or Sparky would have a thing or two to say as well.

    Bryan Price must go. He’s not Joe Maddon cool enough to not be Lou Pinella hot enough, to not be Tony LaRussa manipulating enough, to not be Joe Torre stoic enough. He is without style, form or function.

    And now we know he doesn’t demand his senior members to finish first halves of seasons with any edge.

    Adios, señor!

    • lwblogger2

      Rolen would be asking for a trade to a contender. Rolen was a very good leader, except for when he got tired and didn’t want to be. He basically forced his way out of Philly and then did it again out of Toronto. If he was part of this mess, he wouldn’t be going Rolen on anyone but the front-office, asking that they trade him and trade him now.

  12. Chuck Schick

    How well did Joe Torre”s stoicism help the 99 loss 1979 Mets? Maddon and Lou both lost at least 97 games in Tampa. What did Sparky say to the 103 loss 1989 Tigers?

    • Scotly50

      And there you go keeping it real. 🙂

    • Streamer88

      We’d all be speculating if we knew what those men said during those trying times, as I was speculating when I speculated no one in that locker room was vocally upset with yesterday’s performance.

      I just wish there was something tangible about Bryan Price’s leadership, or potential to lead. I’m not saying managers win baseball games. I am saying they can affect how games are won and lost, however – if that makes sense.

      Perhaps Price being a wet blanket is a part of the Plan. If so, I retract my previous statement, because he’s doing an excellent job of that.

  13. Frog 'em

    A few things stick out as leadership issues:

    1. Why on Earth is Duvall still stealing bases? Let’s hang that one up please. Admittedly, just had to get that one off my chest from many games ago.

    2. Two days in a row Phillips gets thrown out by Ozuna…once at 3B and once at home. Believe the former was with one out–so perhaps acceptable–but the latter came with no outs — unacceptable. If Phillips stays on 3B, he scores with the next hit. The Reds take a 4-2 lead…Stanton’s HR only ties it, and the game takes on an entirely different perspective. Poor judgment that led to a negative element and complete change in the game. Why keep shooting ourselves in the foot?

    3. No need to rant about the defense, but it seems evident that the players are not engaged enough or consistently throughout. Not sure how a guy not named Hamilton scores from 2nd on a PB, but it happened today.

    4. Pitchers unable to bunt — certainly an issue and a good point by many readers.

    • Patrick Jeter

      Regarding #3… if you saw the replay, you know why. The ball kicked all the way up the 1B line in foul territory and Votto had been playing way off the bag (at the instruction of whichever coach positions the defense). Both Votto and Barnhart were 90+ feet away from where the ball ended up.

  14. hallaudermilsmithsteen

    Couple things; first Bruce (especially) and Cozart absolutely will bring back both quality and quantity and if they don’t you just keep them. Second, Int walking Stanton would not be protecting Reed, it would be babying him. Zero reason for that when you are in lose 100+ games mode. Learn now and in two years be ready to dominate physically and mentally.

  15. james garrett

    Better pitching is now exposing what our real issues are with this team.No leadership,bad baserunning by veterans,bad defense by veterans and low and I mean low baseball IQ.Would have won at least 2 games in this series by just playing sound fundamental baseball which is on Walt/Price to make sure it happens every day and every game.BP’s baserunning was and is little league style but he is still smiling all the way to the bank.Price said after the game that the defense was awful but what is he going to do about it and the answer is nothing.

    • greenmtred

      Price is a little long in the tooth to field in big leagues. Your implication is that yelling at guys who make errors will turn them into better fielders. I doubt that. I’m pretty certain that nobody on the team wants to screw up or is playing poor defense because they lack motivation. Several players (Phillips, Bruce and Votto) seem to be regressing, probably due to age, and Suarez just isn’t a good fielder, though not from lack of effort.

  16. IndyRedMan

    Atlanta just beat Chris Sale and then shutout an AL park at their place yesterday! The Twins have won 5 of 6 while scoring 53 runs in the process! They have a 23 yr old rookie Max Kepler with 8 hrs/33 rbis in 143 atbats! Now that’s a kid that peaks your interest. I’m sorry but Jose Peraza doesn’t. If you can’t hurt the pitcher then why would they nibble the plate and walk you? Haven’t we seen that with Billy already….who by the way is hitting .169 in the last 30 days. or not playing….period!! This team is lacking in absolutely every phase of the game and the only way to watch them is with a DVR! You have to give the young pitchers time but if Disco is still the best pitcher next year then deal him too! I like Disco a lot but if he’s the best starter on your staff then keeping him might make you a 90 loss team instead of a 94 loss team.

    • Patrick Jeter

      Pereza and Kepler are not comparable players, I agree.

      Kepler, however, is one of those high risk sort of guys. He was drafted out of Germany (not known for baseball, of course) and has never hit more than 9 homers in any minor league season. His 8 homers so far are a completely unexpected fluke, until he shows us his power is actually this decent. He’s batting ,238/.319/..483. If his power isn’t real, he’s really nothing special. And he doesn’t provide any defensive value.

      Also, I just want to remind everyone that Peraza is 22 years old. Maybe he’d also be doing well if he ever got onto the field at a position that isn’t LF.

      • IndyRedMan

        I was just using this kid as an example. I don’t know anything about him other then yahoo hyped him up so I picked him up for fbb. I was just trying to emphasize that I can’t get excited about our current offensive prospects because we can’t even score enough with Bruce and Cozart. Sure we can occasionally put up a decent amount of runs in GABP….the ball Duvall hit to right yesterday is 12 feet over the fence in GABP for example but the other guys get the cheap homers too. Suarez has been a downer too despite the 15 HRs. Jocketty has completely made a mess of this organization and that can’t be disputed.

      • jazzmanbbfan

        While I don’t disagree that in the big picture Jocketty hasn’t been all that great, but he did get DisClafani for Latos and Suaarez for Simon plus I still am high on the 3 pitchers he got for Cueto given that the Reds weren’t going to be able to sign him.

  17. Patrick Jeter

    I just have 1 thing to say regarding the “mental errors” on the field yesterday…

    On the Votto play where he broke towards 2B initially and then couldn’t quite recover, his brain starting going through calculations the moment the ball was put into play. He was already playing well off the bag (just like on the Barnhart play) and ball was hit to his right. His brain, in a split-second, decided he could reach the ball. This caused his initial step in the wrong direction. In another split-second, but after his brain had already sent the command to his legs to go right, he realized where he was playing on the field and that BP would likely get that ball and he needed to get back to 1st base.

    (Side note: Votto beat the runner to the bag. BP could have thrown the ball earlier, like a QB throwing to a WR on a timing route. Not saying it is BP’s fault, just saying better execution from him could have possibly bailed out Votto’s mistake.)

    It sickens me that every time a player makes a “mental error” everyone piles on and acts like the player doesn’t concentrate or that the coaches don’t mention it. Baseball is hard, especially at this level. When the margin for error is a split-second decision, you have to be realistic and expect these guys aren’t going to make the right decision 100% of the time. I watch a lot of non-Reds baseball as well, and these types of errors happen on every team, good and bad, nearly every game.

      • jazzmanbbfan

        +100 some people tend to believe this only happens to Reds’ players which is completely untrue.

    • VaRedsFan

      I respectfully disagree PJ. Raise your hand if that’s the first time you’ve seen Votto make that exact same mistake several times a season over the last 3 years.

      • Patrick Jeter

        Every first baseman does that a few times a season. That’s my point. It’s not Votto’s lack of concentration. It’s inherent to him being a first baseman, which is the position you put your worst fielder.

  18. WVRedlegs

    What was the exit velocity on Stanton’s 5th inning HR? About 120 mph? Love Cody Reed, but he has got to quit throwing belt high pitches out over the heart of the plate. There were two outs, and Reed looked good getting a 1-2 count on Stanton and then Kaboom. One pitch and it all came crashing down on Reed.
    Just hope that was big learning experience for Reed.
    Looks as if Finnegan is destined for the bullpen when Bailey returns soon. Also looks as if Amir Garrett will get a call up if Dan Straily is traded, not Stephenson. Stephenson’s stock is falling as he spins his wheels in the sand at AAA. His stock is falling within the Reds top 20 prospects and in MLB’s top-100 prospects in mid-season prospects list revisions.
    If Jesse Winker’s weekend is any indication, he should be back to AAA action very soon. And be back to the old Jesse Winker.

    • Patrick Jeter

      Stanton could have popped that pitch up.

      As we saw last night, he doesn’t have a 100% conversion rate on belt-high pitches to homers.

      Reed has been incredibly unlucky on his fly balls.

  19. DEN

    I was wondering has anyone ever done a study on the % of players say ranked as a teams Top 10 prospects went on to have strong careers in the major leagues. I also wonder which team in the ML over say the past 40+ years has produced the highest percentage of top 10 prospects to go on and have strong ML careers?

    • lwblogger2

      It would be a neat study. You’d have to start by figuring out which prospect ranking list to use. Then you’d have to determine a standard for what a strong MLB career is. You’d also want to figure out how far back in history you wanted to go. From there, it sounds like it would be pretty straightforward

  20. jveith1991

    If the Reds want to accelerate their rebuild, they need to get some All-Star level hitters in return. Though it is clear now that the Reds “won” their trade with the Tigers when they acquired Suarez and a catching prospect for Simon, Suarez is not turning out to be the bat or glove the Reds need.

    The jury is still out (and will probably be out for several years) on the Frazier and Chapman deals. Whether or not Peraza, Schebler, or Davis develop into quality MLB players remains to be seen.

    I would love to see the Reds pull off a deal like the Cubs did with the Padres prior to the 2012 season. The Cubs acquired 1B prospect Anthony Rizzo for pitching prospect Andrew Cashner. The Reds certainly have a load of starting pitchers and starting pitcher prospects who have had various levels of success. With the barren free agent SP market coming this winter, it would seem that the time would be right for the Reds to deal away one or two prospects for a bat. Perhaps the coming August 1 trade deadline would be even more ideal for the Reds, given the number of teams looking to trade prospects for pitching help. You have to wonder how much a team like the Marlins would send to the Reds to get DeSclafani back.

    • jveith1991

      Or the Astros…what would it take for them to consider trading prospect Alex Bregman?

    • lwblogger2

      I don’t think we can throw in the towel on Suarez quite yet. He’s still pretty darn young and sometimes an MLBer’s 2nd season is harder than his first.