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We have mercifully made it to the end of the first half. The Cincinnati Reds (32-56) will play their final game before the all star break today at 1:10 at the Miami Marlins (46-41). The Reds pitching did their part in the first two games of this series, but the offense will have to pick it up or the Reds will be swept.

Starting Pitchers

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Cody Reed has really struggled through his first four big league starts. He has allowed 8 home runs in just 20.0 innings, which is certainly a recipe for disaster. Hopefully pitching in a big ballpark like Marlins Park today will help him be able to keep the ball in the yard.

There is at least one glaring positive for Reed: strikeouts. Reed has struck out 22 batters in 20.0 innings. His walks are a little higher than league average, but they are far better than the Reds team average of 4.35. Once Reed figures out how to keep the ball in the park (mostly by locating his fastball better), he should have a lot of success.


Tom Koehler is in his fourth full season in the Marlins rotation. He has been an average starter throughout his career, posting a 4.15 ERA/4.27 FIP. That isn’t all so bad for a 538th overall pick back in 2008.

The Reds haven’t faced Koehler since 2014. Koehler has not allowed a run in 10.1 career innings against the Reds, with 6 H, 6 K, 2 BB. The current Reds who have faced him (Cozart, Hamilton, Bruce, Votto, and Phillips) are a combined 0 for 10 against him, with one lone walk by Jay Bruce.

Starting Lineups

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1. Zack Cozart (SS)
2. Billy Hamilton (CF)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Jay Bruce (RF)
5. Adam Duvall (LF)
6. Brandon Phillips (2B)
7. Tucker Barnhart (C)
8. Ivan De Jesus (3B)
9. Cody Reed (P)
1. J.T. Realmuto (C)
2. Martin Prado (3B)
3. Christian Yelich (LF)
4. Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
5. Marcell Ozuna (CF)
6. Chris Johnson (1B)
7. Miguel Rojas (2B)
8. Adeiny Hechavarria (SS)
9. Tom Koehler (P)

Eugenio Suarez gets the day off after his poor defensive day yesterday. Jose Peraza finishes the first half having started in 1 of the final 6 games. Why have him on the MLB roster if he isn’t going to play?

Chasing History

The Reds have already set a franchise record with 56 first half losses (the previous high was 54 back in 2001). The Reds will be safe from the franchise record in worst win/loss percentage, which is a more fair way to look at futility, since each year has a different amount of total games played per first half. A loss today would put the Reds at .360, which would tie them for the third worst win-loss percentage. A win today would put the Reds at .371, which would be the fifth worst.

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Conclusion 

The Reds should try to end the first half with a win. That would be nice, right nation? Go Reds!

Nick is a lifelong Reds fan who was born and raised in Cincinnati. He acquired his love of baseball from his late grandfather. Nick moved to the Cleveland area in 2014 with his wife, and his currently fighting to convert his beautiful baby daughter Emma to Reds fandom. Nick has been writing for Redleg Nation since 2013. Follow Nick on Twitter @nicholaspkirby.

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  1. The more they wait to make a decision upon Suarez and Philips, the more it’ll take to contend again.

  2. Give Phillips the day off and play Peraza. I dont get it.

    • No one does. Compound that idiocy with starting Mr. Ivan DeJesus Jr while Peraza rots on the bench.

      At least option him to AAA to he can, oh I don’t know, play baseball…

      What. A. Joke.

  3. Jose Peraza hasn’t started at 2B since 6/27, 13 games ago. He hasn’t started in the infield since 6/29. Last three starts were in left field, LEFT FIELD.

    • Trying to remain patient with the Rebuild. But warning signs emerging that the Reds are going to be lousy at it.

    • This isn’t all on Bryan Price, although it starts with him. The front office could tell Price how much they want Peraza to play. When I wrote a couple weeks ago that the Reds needed to fire Price because he isn’t suited for managing during the Rebuild, this is the kind of thing I was talking about.

      • Agreed 100%. Every day Bryan Price is managing this team is one less day before the Reds are ready to compete.

        There is absolutely NO REASON IN THE WORLD that DeJesus should EVER get a start when a prospect who might be a starter on the next Reds contender rots on the bench. DeJesus is a AAAA player and will never be more. He’s filler. He doesn’t need to “stay fresh” because even his best is terrible. Ugh.

        I’m officially angry now. I’ve been patient all year, but I’m officially driving the FIRE BRYAN PRICE NOW bandwagon.

      • From various comments I see from time to time both from observers and people actually in the org, it doesn’t appear that they have much effective centralized direction and coordination from MLB right on down through the levels of MiLB.

        • More than one person in the organization has expressed directly to me that Jocketty is too much of a hands-off, no-leadership guy. I’ve seen credible reports that question how hard he works at his job compared to other GMs. Leadership transitions can be difficult. Ones like this where the old guy is still around are especially challenging. Total in-crowd move. Keep the old guy around. Nepotism with the new guy. Promote lifers.

        • Great insight Steve. I would think Jocketty is in full charge of acquiring players the Reds have now. So…..in summary, the bad bullpen and if these new pitchers, he got via trade like Finnegan, Lamb, Reed, Disco, ect….don’t pan out, when more is expected of them in the next year to two years (maybe more), there is nobody to blame than Jocketty. Also, trading for Suarez, which is defintely not working out at third base, Hamilton in center field being a question mark with the bat, ect…..it all falls on him. When people evaluate a team, if they will be competetive or challenge each year…its NOT ONLY the players talent, its also how good the talent is of managing and evaluating players via drafting farm system, trades, ect….which is also the Owner, GM, and Manager. So, when someone says, is the team good or bad, you have to ask about Starting Pitching, Relief Pitching, Infield/Outfield Defense and Fielding, Bench Play, AND Owner, GM, and Manager as well should be included.

        • Has Walt been around the last 5 years? I have not noticed.

          I thought he left the organization in 2011

  4. I’m glad I have an 11 MDT brunch today with some out-of-towners. Not sure I want to watch this team today.

    • I won’t be watching or listening to much live. I do have the DVR running; we’ll see if I ever queue it up and watch any.

  5. What’s even more maddening about that Peraza-not-playing scenario is that for every day he sits on the MLB bench, his service clock is ticking. Another Jocketty failure.

    • At this point, we have to pray every night that these are Jocketty (and/or Price) failures. If Dick Williams and the young guys are on board with this mismanagement, it’s the death knell for a competent future and, you know, winning.

      • Who knows if Dick Williams knows anything about being a GM. He has to have the least baseball experience of any MLB GM. The franchise is approaching the laughing stock phase. Tell me again why the Reds did not wait until thi s years trading deadline to move Chapman. I bet the Yankees will get quite a haul for him from one of the contenders who needs bullpen help.

  6. Hopefully the Reds new GM will take charge and there will be a new manager after the All Star break.

    • My sense is that Dick Williams will be more aggressive at decision making. The Reds really needed that quality at the top this year. What they *appear* to have now is consensus-based decision making. That works better if everyone is in agreement. Really tough if there are generational-based splits in method and outlook.

      • Who’s Dick Williams? 😀

      • I have been ridiculed on here before but I will say it again , this team is going for the number 1 pick. How else can you explain these decisions they make? Everyday is a head scratcher! What we see as a simple decision they see it as a total opposite. They are rebuilding through the draft because they don’t have much left to trade. This team will not be good until 18 but most likely 19.

  7. Price on Reds radio pregame making some really good semi technical comments about what Reed’s problems have been and how to fix it. Basically get his fingers more on top of the ball because fastball and slider are tending to stay on the same vertical plane; and also, his lower grip is lessening the speed difference between the FB and slider. Finally don’t be shy about using the change up more…..,

  8. I have no faith in Price and decided long ago a change needed to be made. He has been almost as bad a game manager as DB with none of the touch with the players. That said, the front office puts him in a hopeless position. He knows his job is insecure at best. If he does what is best for the organization by playing the youngsters then his record will be awful and he will be fired. If he doesn’t then maybe the team will win enough games to give him an argument that he overachieved and made a turn around. My point is that this is why you don’t keep a lame duck manager around on a rebuilding team. Even an interim manager is an improvement so long as its an organization lifer or a guy with managerial experience who can make his case for a permanent job based on the progress of the younger players. They need to make the move now and give the next guy a fair chance to make the second half something positive.

    • “He knows his job is insecure at best. If he does what is best for the organization by playing the youngsters then his record will be awful and he will be fired”

      If he wants to keep managing, he should be playing all the kids and bench Phillips, etc, so that he has plausible deniability for the dumpster fire.

      IF he is playing all these experienced guys to win games, well then he should most definatly be fired because he is not making the little differences that a manager can make

  9. Billy was robbed on that one.

  10. Is there anything Aquino needs to prove in high A ball? Move him up to AA now to see how much he can handle. 4 runs knocked in last night in a loss.

    Yorman Rodriquez sighting in high A ball. He turns 24 in Sept. How long will this rehab assignment last? Can it be till Sept and Reds not lose him?

  11. Cody Reed’s slider that moves under the hands of right handed hitters is a devastating pitch for him. Just struck out Stanton on it. Bet most of his Ks so far this year to RH hitters are on that. Lots of swing and miss. Promising sign.

  12. I assume Peraza is on the bench because they’re trying to prepare him for future games on the bench. We’re all so focused on his ability to improve as a player, but they’re obviously concerned about his ability to successfully not play, which probably isn’t as easy as we think it is. Can he keep the starting players loose with witty banter? Can he congratulate other players after their home runs? Can he eat enough sunflower seeds? We should stop criticizing and start appreciating the way management is thinking outside the box.

  13. I’m not watching the game but Marty and whoever the reporter guest during the 2nd inning is hammered on Joey Votto for not going after the ball that got away from Barnhart. Then they added in his failure to tag up on the first inning fly to Stanton. Legitimate criticisms or off base? They then said that the All Star Break doesn’t start until after the game. Marty said something about his mind must have been on his on-base percentage. That seemed a bit snarky, not that it is a shock coming from Marty.

    • Votto should have tagged. Legit criticism. But Votto did go for the passed ball. He was playing way off the line, in the 1B/2B gap. Broke almost immediately for the passed ball, just too far away. TV replay showed this clearly. So it was pure garbage from Brennaman. Telling like it isn’t, again. The crack about OBP just exposes him for being the cranky out-of-it troll that he is.

      Guy seems so unhappy during his job he ought to retire.

      • I wish he would retire. My 92 year old grandmother is tired if his act. If you lose the 90 year olds because you are a crank, that is saying something.

      • Thanks Steve, from what I heard, the radio announcers gave no indication that he even tried to go after the passed ball. Sounds like the failure to tag is legitimate but Marty is so unlistenable when he gets this way. When he just sticks to play by play I think he is still pretty good but I’m ready to move on and have him ride off into the sunset, or whatever….

      • Just watched the replay. Votto did stand motionless for a second or two, seemingly unaware the ball had gotten away. I assume that’s what Marty noticed. But then he clearly did go running after it when he saw it. At that point I guess Marty’s mind was too focused on criticizing Votto to notice what was happening in the game he was supposed to be watching.

      • How could you be miserable with that job.

      • The fact is, whether many on here like it or not; I have not met any Reds fans that actually likes Votto. The group on here do not represent the majority of fans.

        Votto did just stand there before he went after it. My guess someone yelled and he knocked him out of a daze.

  14. This team has mailed this game in and is half way to their vacation destination.Top 3 guys in the order are 2 for 28 with 9k’s through two games and 3 innings today.

  15. My mistake.Bruce hasn’t mailed this game in at all..Wish we could keep this guy around for another year or two.

  16. Brandon is in there.

  17. Brandon plays hard. No doubt

  18. No challenge there?

  19. The failure of a bad sacrifice smells up the joint again

  20. Just a classic example of why teams love to play us.All they have to do is wait till we beat ourselves with bad base running and poor execution.

  21. Marty slamming Votto again. The Reds need to force this old, bitter fool into retirement.

    “Joey had the best seat in the house. I think he has his mind on on-base percentage”

    • It’s a real bummer too, there was a time when I liked listening to Marty.

    • I love Marty and love it when he tells it like it is.He must be fed up with this crappy excuse of a baseball team and his frustration boils over more now then in the past.I give up watching or listening to most games after sometimes only 1 inning.Can you imagine what its like to have to suffer through brodcasting every game?.He can’t turn the game off like I can.Bet he wishes he could sometimes.

      • Funny how that only really comes out when hes talking about one player, who happens to be the best player this teams has had in years.

      • He could retire any minute he wants to. Do you love it when Marty tells it like it isn’t? Like implying that Votto didn’t go after the passed ball. The replay shows Votto ran all the way from the 2B/1B gap where he was playing to within a couple feet from where Barnhart fielded the ball. Brennaman was just wrong. He’s not telling it like it is. He’s doing the opposite, a disservice to the fans who rely on him for learning about the Reds.

        • Just listening to Marty, you would’ve assumed that Votto did absolutely nothing on that ball. He was a *little* late on breaking, but did go hard after it. I’m so sick of Marty.

        • What’s to learn? They suck.Period.Marty just sadly has to be always telling us about it.It balances out you know.You can always listen to the Cowboy who gets so excited when the other team does anything good.

  22. Marty will be around for as long as he wants to be regardless of what he says.He is untouchable and he knows it.

  23. Very nice pitch selection to the pinch hitter by Reed

  24. Having the lead was nice….

  25. That was a bomb from Stanton.

  26. Could really use that BP run right now, price…

  27. Not watching so I assume Hatcher waived BP home.Regardless with nobody out you have to ask why why why.Ozuna threw him out at third yesterday and just like yesterday the next batter got a hit.

  28. Reed pitched well at times today. Hung a couple in that last inning to good hitters. 7 strikeouts in 5 innings is nice.

  29. Mattingly got his guy out and Price left his guy in I assume so he could get through 5 with the lead and maybe get a win.Nice thought I guess but bad results Reed will be really good for us down the road.No shame in Stanton taking you deep.

  30. That hit is on Joey

  31. Votto is not in this game.

  32. Marty is all over Votto again, apparently a routine ground ball that he started after, then was late to the base when he couldn’t get to it? He and Cowboy are saying it is a routine play any first baseman makes. Since I’m not watching I can’t make any judgments on it. Marty said Joey should have started his All Star Break a day early.

    • It was a bad play from Votto. The creepy old guy in the radio booth is like a class 6 stalker on Votto”s junk. I keep hoping he will announce his retirement after this year.

      • I don’t disagree about the depth/unfairness of Marty’s criticisms. I do, however, wish Votto would quit giving him so much ammunition. Is it too much to ask a first baseman to actually cover first base, instead of starting after a ball clearly hit to the second baseman? … That pitcher deserved better this inning.

    • I hope our management listens to Marty about Votto. I truly do.

  33. If Smith can consistently throw that slider, he will be tough

    • No shame in that hit. It was a very good pitch that just dribbled up the middle

  34. Is Marty all over Phillips for that crappy job covering the base on the steal?

  35. How are you late on a pitch out? The very purpose is to be early…..

  36. “This isn’t piling on Votto, those are routine plays a ML 1B should make,” Cowboy getting in on the Votto hate. Which is funny because the play is made if BP doesn’t hotdog the throw.

    • Regardless of whether you think the plays were bad, it IS piling on Votto. Cowboy is becoming almost as listenable as The Goblin.

  37. Another bad defensive play by Phillips this time. Reds look like a steaming pile of poo.

  38. It looks like these guys have never played together before.

  39. Wow, this is so not on Smith

  40. Big chance in the 7th. comes to nada.

  41. Marty is a disgrace. The sooner he retires the better. However Votto looked like he was sleep walking today. This is unacceptable. Votto looks over matched by too many pitchers this year. His batting average is a weak .250. He has proven he is not an RBI guy. He K’s far too often. He looks more like Hal Morriis than the Votto of his MVP year which was years ago. His defense disappears on occasion. He is an atrocious base runner. I don’t see him making another all star game. Watching this guy play 7 or 8 more years could be very painful for all.

    • Well, when umpires ring you up on balls, its easy to look overmatched.

      • On a 3-2 pitch with 2 men on and 2 out late in a game…if it is close nough to be called a strike it is close enough to swing. All to often Votto keeps the bait on his shoulder and takes a strike when the team needs a hit.

        • It wasn’t close. It was a ball. Joey won’t swing at balls. I’d think by now everyone would understand that.

        • That was the case in the past but it is no longer true.

  42. I look forward to the remaining 45% of the season and, in addition to the continuing stretching out of the young pitching staff, I’m hopeful that Peraza will start every game to wind up this rebuild year.

    • Hope springs eternal but I am just baffled by the fact that Peraza didn’t start all 3 games this weekend. Makes zero sense to me.

  43. Our pitching will continue to get better but the rest of this team is in shambles.Losing was and is expected but giving games away little league style is not acceptable.Continuing to play this way ought to be embarrassing to everybody.We lost 3 games that we should have won due to a comedy of errors(mentally and physically) by professional players.Its time to blow this team up starting with Walt and Price.Players not giving there best at all times is on the GM and the manager.We have become the laughing stock of the league and its not because we are losing but because of how we lose and the fact that we have no plan to get better.

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Nick is a lifelong Reds fan who was born and raised in Cincinnati. He acquired his love of baseball from his late grandfather. Nick moved to the Cleveland area in 2014 with his wife, and his currently fighting to convert his beautiful baby daughter Emma to Reds fandom. Nick has been writing for Redleg Nation since 2013. Follow Nick on Twitter @nicholaspkirby.

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