The Reds are going to face lots of tough decisions over the next year and half or so, and the choices they make will have a big impact on how fun it is to watch the Reds for the next 5 years or more. I wouldn’t call what to do with Billy Hamilton the toughest of those, but maybe they could start with it to sort of get the decision making juices flowing.

I didn’t like that the Reds picked Billy Hamilton when they did, which was the second round in 2009. There were lots players that were taken after him that are clearly better (Paul Goldschmidt went in 8th round and Matt Carpenter in the 13th, how did that happen?) but you can’t really blame a team for that; you can say the same thing about most draft picks and the draft is always a bit of a crap shoot.

The issue with Billy Hamilton was his profile. If you are going to take a high school shortstop in the second round, it really should be because he’s a good hitter, preferably with a lot of power. The Reds picked Hamilton when he probably weighed 110 pounds soaking wet and wasn’t a great hitter, but he was incredibly fast. Stolen bases don’t mean that much overall (and you can’t steal first, as they say), and his defense wasn’t thought of very highly. So I didn’t really see the potential.

But in 2012, the light bulb went on in the Arizona Fall League: Billy Hamilton should play center field. More or less since the first day he trotted out to the outfield he’s been one of the best defensive players in the game, because he plays a great center field and it’s is a position where great defense takes a lot of runs off the board. Billy had two good years at the plate in the minors (2010 and 2012, posting an .830+ OPS in both), but other than that, he’s never really learned how to hit. He turned himself into a major league player with his defense.

I made the case here at RLN last year that the Reds should consider signing Billy Hamilton to a long-term, team-friendly contract. Given that he can’t hit much, he may be interested in some job security. Even if he hits like a pitcher, his defense alone makes him an average major league player, and a bargain at 8 years / $28 mil or something like that. The Reds are going to need some team friendly contracts if they are going to build another sustained winner, where they pay less than market rate for additional wins.

In September of 2015 the Reds picked up Tyler Holt off of waivers from the Indians. Holt was a 10th round draft pick out of Florida State the year after Billy, and came into pro ball with some of the same expectations: plus defender, plus speed, light bat. His speed and defense aren’t on the same level of Billy’s, however, the one thing that he definitely has on Billy is the ability to take a walk. For a light hitting speedster, walking 10% of the time (compared to Billy’s 5%) is a game changer.

So, on the one hand we have Hamilton, who basically hasn’t shown he can hit a lick, but if he ever learned to hit the ball harder could be an all-star (18% of hit batted balls are classified as “hard hit” by fangraphs, compared to Holt’s 26%. Holt also hits few fly balls). On the other we have Holt who is basically a poor-man’s Billy Hamilton when it comes to speed and defense, except he does well the one thing that Billy Hamilton needs to do so desperately: takes walks. As of right now, Baseball Reference has both of them on pace for about 1.5 win seasons (on the fringe of an MLB regular). If the Reds could somehow Voltron them together, you might be looking at a pretty complete player.

Holt is 27, while Billy will turn 26 later this season, but Holt is still basically a rookie despite playing in parts of three major league seasons. Holt is arbitration eligible in 2019, and so will be cheap for the Reds for at least the next three years, even if he plays up to his max potential (say a 3 win player).  Billy is eligible for arb next year, and will get a little bit of a raise. The bigger issue is that the Reds only have him under team control right now for three more years (compared to 5 with Holt), which doesn’t get them very far into their planned window of winning ™. If Billy is going to be the center fielder for the next good Reds teams, he’s probably going to need a contract extension (as surely the Reds would try to trade him in 2018 if they weren’t going to extend him, before he got to his most expensive arb year).

I argued to extend Billy last year, and I still think it could make sense, but it’s definitely a gamble that someone, anyone, can improve his hitting. Because he’s getting so much value out of his defense, he’s got a lot of upside at the plate if he can ever tap into it. Holt clearly has less upside, but may be able to offer what many people have wanted out of Billy this whole time: a guy that walks, steals some bases, and plays pretty well in the field. And he’ll be cheap. If the Reds decide to go with Holt, they could even try to trade Hamilton, which would free up the money he’ll make over the next few years, and maybe net an interesting prospect.

So what do you think nation? Should the Reds plod on with the Billy Hamilton experiment? Maybe get him on some sort of strength training/ weight adding program to see if he can ever hit the ball with more authority? Do you like Holt? Is a guy that can get on base good enough at this point, after so many years of watching SO many Reds refuse to walk? Or should the Reds assume that the center fielder for the next good Reds teams isn’t currently on the roster, and plan accordingly. It’s a tough call, but it certainly won’t be the toughest.

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  1. I don’t see either one being the long-term CF. Someone currently in our minor league system, someone we draft in the next year or two, or someone we acquire in a trade (Bruce or Cozart trade, or a trade for one of our young pitchers maybe?) will be the long term solution. While we rebuild, let Billy continue to start, possibly develop as a hitter and build some trade value. If he does develop to the point where he’s hitting .260/.330 then either trade him while his value is highest, or sign him (even then, he likely wouldn’t get more than. $30-50 million for a long term deal). As for Holt, he is useful for a 4th or 5th outfielder and bench/pinch running piece but I don’t see him ever becoming much more than that.

  2. Even if Hamilton isn’t the starting moving forward I would still keep him and use him as a pinch runner and for a defensive replacement late in games.

  3. After 2 and a third seasons, I think Hamilton is what he is going to be. It is up to the FO to decide whether they can afford his defense both in terms of lost offense and $$$.

    I’d like to see Holt get more playing time over the rest of the year so they can make a more fully informed decision in the off season.

    An irony in this situation is that Holt is probably more valuable as a bench piece that Hamilton would be due to his ability to get on base more frequently and being further from arb and end of player control.

    • That is a good point. I am leaning towards Billy as a bench player for defense sub/pinch runner abilities but if that is the case then we be spending too much on him, presumably

  4. I live in Chicago and was watching the Cubs game Saturday. At one point, the announcers mentioned that Travis Wood and Rizzo are the only 2 players left from Epstein’s first year (2012). The moral of the story is we have no idea what anyone’s futures is at this point…let alone 2 guys with major flaws that may or may not be fixable. Hamilton has 3 more years of team control…Holt has 5…..why do anything? Just let them play and see if they have a future.

    Signing guys through the arbitration years often makes sense…but then again, Mesoraco is owed 21 million.

    • The Reds really need to hit home runs with their extensions… Mesoraco seems to be a swing and a miss, unfortunately.

    • And that (not quite) $21M still owed on Meso is for 2017-18. It is more like $25M counting this year. 🙂

      • Any idea if the Reds have insurance to cover some of that money owed? Same thing regarding Homer?

        • Nobody knows for sure except perhaps the people involved on the team. For Mes, I’d very, very seriously doubt they have insurance on it and for Homer, I’d also be surprised if there was insurance on the deal. Teams aren’t doing insurance nearly as often due to the exceptionally high premiums that companies are charging for it.

        • There was a general discussion of the insurance situation here back when the news about Meso (this year) first broke. The gist was that the cost of insurance and restrictive terms under which it will pay out even with that cost has led to most contracts no longer being insured.

          While nobody knows for sure, the feeling was that a nine figure deal like Bailey’s would probably have some sort of at least limited insurance coverage, a relatively low in the eight figure range deal like Meso’s probably was fully at the club’s own risk. Consider the term/ annual average cost to the team.

      • Except for the fact that his contract, and Homer Bailey’s contract for that matter, is being paid for by the Insurance company the Reds hired when they had those deals signed. Until they come off the DL, their contract money is not being paid to them by the Reds. So of our roughly $90MM payroll, over $22MM owed to both Homer and Devin are not being paid for by the team. In a lost year, all the more reason to sit both down for the entire year. Once again, Bob C. is not a millionaire because he is dumb. He knows exactly what he is doing, making a profit.

    • Pretty much agree wholeheartedly with you on this. I think Hamilton has to be given most the work the rest of the season. I think he’s made a few minor strides on the hitting front and in a lost season, there isn’t much to lose. Hamilton with an OBP anywhere north of about .310 is a pretty good player. Play Holt here and there and then start him next season if Hamilton still is struggling to hit at all.

    • Yeah, the issue with Holt is not really what to do with him, but rather do they like him enough to move on from Billy. If the answer is yes, then sure, you just let him play.

      The issue with Billy as simple as just letting him play though. Based on this season and what the front office has said, I think it’s safe to say that 2017 is not going to be a go for it year. So that means that by the time the Reds get back into contention (hopefully 2018), Billy will be in his second arb year, and they really will need to trade him if they haven’t extended him. That’s not much of a window for having him on the team when the team is good.

      So the question ultimately is, do they extend Hamilton? If they do, the sooner the better, because they’ll get him at more of a discount. If not, then they should plan on trading him, maybe next year, and playing someone else instead.

    • Yes, there is no pressure to do anything at this point. We can and should see how they each address their shortcomings. I still have faith that Billy will.

  5. I have generally always liked the idea of a Hamilton extension. I’m not sure I could handle 8 years, though. Speed and defense (because of speed/agility) begin declining pretty much the moment you hit the major leagues at every position except 1B and 3B. His value will quickly and consistently decline over the course of his career if his hitting stays equal.

    While I agree Billy is currently a 1.5-2.0 WAR-floor type of player, I think at the age of 30 it might be closer to 0.5-1.0 WAR, and at 33 near the end of an 8 year deal he’s probably below replacement level.

    With that said, I think it is worth the risk if you can get him for like 6yr/$24m or so. Because even if he’s terrible, that’s not a lot of money to put at risk and the potential upside is enormous.

    I like Holt as a 4th outfielder who should get most of the PAs against lefties. From 2013-2015 across stints at AA/AAA/MLB (mostly AAA), Holt had an OBP north of .400 against lefties. He’s the kind of a guy every team needs for depth purposes. He could come in if a starter gets hurt and play a full season without a need to go get a replacement.

    • All good points. I would definitely be happy with a 6 year deal, with an AAV of $4mil or less.

      • $4M AAV seems like a lot to pay for a guy who is not capable of doing off the bench what Patrick described as the role he saw Holt fitting into over time, which I think I agree with but I’d like to see Holt exposed a little more before i say for sure.

        On the other hand, for a contending team, I see BH as likely only coming in late with the back end bullpen “A” team to protect a short lead over an inning or two or alternately to try and steal a run late when the Reds need it to stay in or win a game. And in the former role, he would be an added headache for the manager in trying to set the lineup to keep him in the game but away from the plate.

        • The problem with the idea of BH as a late-inning replacement is that the other team can score runs in the early and middle innings, not just the late ones. He seems to be hitting a bit better this season, but I agree with the thought that it’s his glove that dictates his value. The Reds rebuild seems to be centered around pitching, and BH in center certainly improves that commodity. They would need good hitters at other positions to make up for him, but they will need good hitters at other positions anyway. I like Holt, too. He probably doesn’t hit with enough power to be a traditional corner outfielder, but he seems to get on base well and field and run well, so he’s a useful bench player, at the least. Good topic for interesting discussion. Thanks, Jeremy, and thanks to all the writers who keep the season interesting.

        • The only reason to pay him that would be as a starter. As a starter, his defense is so good that he could easily be worth $4M per year, and maybe way way more. The different between him and Holt off the bench is probably negligible, but there’s no way the Reds should be paying $4M for any bench player.

        • Re: bench salaries. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a really good bench player/ 4th OF making $4M annually by the back end of Holt’s arb years. NOT saying Holt would ever be worth that, just that day is coming for the guy with the right skill set but a couple of offsetting flaws as an everyday player..

        • I can see someone paying that, and a lot more, for a bench player. But with the resources the Reds have compared to the rest of the league, they need to be putting their bench together for less.

        • RE: Bench Player Money

          I agree the Reds need to put their bench together on the cheap. Their recent “big money” bench players haven’t panned out well. Perhaps it was Jocketty and perhaps Williams will be different, but I’d rather see a guy making league minimum get a chance than see Jack Hannahan make a million bucks a year or see Jordan Pacheco make almost a million bucks!

        • What’s the going rate for 1 WAR? I believe the last I saw was somewhere between 6m-8m per WAR. If Hamilton is a 2 WAR floor guy, then $4M AAV seems like a good deal.

        • Yeah, FanGraphs has been using $8M per WAR this year, but that’s based on players who have reached free agency. Agreed that the Reds would be good to give Billy $4M per year (if he’d accept it), because if he continues to be a stellar defender, someone will sign him to a FA deal as a project, I bet. Probably have him stop switch hitting and learn to bunt from 1 side only. His development is slowed by 50% having to learn everything from 2 sides. I hate that the Reds won’t give up on that failed project.

  6. I agree that Holt is probably the more valuable bench player of the two. The number of times you need a pure speed player to pinch run is low. The issue though is will Billy ever learn to hit. I know it is a small sample size but there may be indications that the light has come on for Billy over the last few weeks. This could just be a good run for him against some mediocre pitching, but his speed and defense is so valuable, I think the best thing to do is let him play over the next year or so and see if he has turned the corner. I seem to remember a shortstop a few years back that played solely on his defense but as he matured became quite a good hitter with a career 262/337 and is now in the Hall of Fame. Im just saying lets not be too quick to judge we have all of this year and probably next year before we will be playing meaningful games.

  7. At what point does Father Time usually catch up with speed?

    • Ricky Henderson stole 66 bases at age 39.

    • You begin to decline in speed as soon as you reach physical maturity, unless something changes about you (perhaps you build more leg muscle, for example). So, somewhere between 19 and 21 for most people?

      I can’t find the link, but I read something about Mike Trout the other day, and how he had TONS of infield hits in the first two seasons, and now he’s not getting as many last year and this year. They have his home-to-1st times from each of his seasons and they have been in steady (albeit small) decline. This is the basic path for all players, on average.

      Even with declining speed, though, your knowledge of stealing bases and running bases can increase which can offset the decline in physical skill.

      Someone with Hamilton’s speed could continue to steal a lot of bases into his 30s if he learns how to get better jumps and learns the pitcher/catcher combos.

  8. Holt would be a very nice 4th OFer. Hamitlon could easily be hidden within a good lineup that is strong from #1-7.
    Jackie Bradley, Jr, is rewarding the RedSox this year for not giving up on his bat the last 2 years. Give BHam a little more time. There has been some improvement in his batting approach the last 6 weeks or so.

  9. I am cautiously optimistic that maybe not the long term answer there might be some value in BHam. his OBP is still ugly but the BA is rising. This is one of those times the advanced numbers may bring me back to earth but he “LOOKS” better at the plate. His speed in CF makes his stick less of an issue unless he is the bottom of 4 poor hitting starters. I don’t expect Cozart or Bruce to be part of the Reds past July but with their uptick in hitting and so far Duvall has been a nice surprise. Hamilton as the lone “terrible” hitter makes his anemic bat easier to swallow. I said the advanced numbers may blow a hole in my “eye test” but maybe he is getting it! I know the numbers say that the speed will leave him soon we have been watching for the demise of BP’s defense for 3 years now and while it has slipped so far no cliff dive.

  10. I’m not sure you don’t need them both. Billy has missed pretty significant stretches over the past couple of years and his game (steals/defense) probably is more prone to injuries than most.

  11. Not to rain on folks’ collective parades, but Hamilton really isn’t showing us anything new at the plate… he’s still worst than most his 2014, recently.

    Here’s a graph of his rolling 15-game wRC+ from 2014 to now.

    • Hmmm, disagrees with the eye test, especially what I’m seeing the last 6-weeks or so.

    • That’s good stuff Peter. While you’re right about looking back to 2014, but I actually see a trendline going up from the beginning of 2015 to now. Looks like about a 3.5 WRc+ slope per 15 games, which would get him above average by year end if he continues on it.

      • Yep. That’s the encouraging part. If he just continues to go up slightly, he can make back a lot of the ground he gave up.

        I was just cautioning people against thinking Billy is producing at a “new” level for him. He was actually pretty impressive in 2014! Relatively speaking, of course.

  12. I know one thing for sure! Before I traded Bruce I would call Colorado about Billy Hamilton! He could hit .230 and still hit 40 doubles and run down balls that Blackmon can’t even get near! Our outfield seems like its literally half that size! Of course I’ve been talking about strength training/weight gain w/Billy since the day he came up but visually he looks exactly the same? Seems like a likely candidate to go Edwin Scissorhands on us and really blossom with someone else? I like Holt too but he seems like a 4th OF to me. Holt, Dejesus, and a guy that can provide some pinch-hit power makes a decent start to their bench!

  13. I have said several times that I think Holt should play more but not necessarily at the expense of Billy.He is the 4th outfielder but he should play anytime the starters aren’t playing.If Cosart is traded I could see Suarez at short and Duvall moving to third with Holt playing left.We need to give Holt as many at bats as possible the rest of the year just to see what he can do.I am not giving up on Billy but we have 2.5 years of data on him and basically none on Holt. Holt works the count well and will take a walk and on a team that has nobody except Votto that will do that I find it very refreshing.

    • I don’t disagree but if they did what you said then wouldn’t they be stealing atbats from Peraza? I’m not saying its right but I doubt they ever Holt regular atbats? Its like the NFL draft picks vs the undrafted free agents. They got more invested in the other people vs little to nothing in Holt so they’ll get all the opportunities first.

  14. GABP is a hitters friendly ball park. The home team should either take advantage of that or adjust the ballpark to fit the teams long term player recruiting strategy. Signing players who are barely adequate and pitchers who love to give up hard hit fly balls is not a smart thinking strategy.

    • In what stadium would that be a good strategy?

      What would building a team to fit GABP look like? A bunch of players with 329 ft power?

      • Well to start Mr. Conley they could look to recruit players with power and a high slugging percentage. Granted Cincy is “small market” so maybe all they can recruit moving forward are going to be players like Holt and Hamilton. Bruce and Votto were good choices for the Reds in the recruiting process and so was Mesoraco. That should be the type of players that would have long term success playing in 80 plus games. All I am saying is that the Reds should consider the advantage/disadvantages of their stadium instead of recruiting players that even if marginal turn out to be a liability due to our stadiums design. A fly ball pitcher can survive in New York, Seatlle, Minnesota just to name a few. A fly ball pitcher is not going to have success in a stadium like Cincinnati. Speed…. seems to be the Reds strategy and though there might be a slight advantage to that I don’t think that they are taking full advantage of what our stadium has to offer.
        On top of that… I don’t understand for the life of me why Cincinnati organization does not pay Louisville to bulld their stadium up to mirror GABP. It makes to much sense I guess to have the next generation playing in a similar stadium to make scouting slightly easier and to make the adjustments up to the Show all the easier for them.

        • In general, players with power and high slugging percentages are expensive…because they’re rare. They also tend to be defensive liabilities because they’re often large and often slow. The circa 2004 Reds scored a lot of runs…especially at home…and lost a lot of games. Who scores more runs…a team of Dave Kingmans or a team of Joey Vottos?

          For 80 years, the Red Sox built a pseudo softball team to take aim at the monster..and for 80 years they lost.

          At any given time, a small number of players for Lousiville will ultimately play extended time with the Reds. Reconfiguring a stadium…which is often owned by a municipality is expensive and likely isn’t worth the cost.

        • i definitely agree that the Reds should have good pitchers, and ground ball pitchers, given their stadium. I’ve never understood why having a small ballpark should lead fans to think that we should get players with more power though. Players with good power can hit the ball out of any ballpark. A small stadium, if anything, would lead me to go for players with less power, that might get overlooked by other teams, because they still might hit 20 HRs in our park.

          In general, I think that stadium variances are so small, and all ball players have to deal with so many, that good quality players play well in any park.

        • Yes, like Jeremy, I agree with you that ground ball pitchers and guys that miss a lot of bats are the way to go for the Reds. Also, like Jeremy, I disagree that the Reds need power hitters. Power hitters are great because they can hit it out just about anywhere. What the Reds should be able to leverage is in getting those guys with gap-power (12-15HR/500AB power) who, as Jeremy said, may end up hitting 20+ at GABP.

        • GABP park factors for last year:

          Basic: 102
          1B: 98
          2B: 99
          3B: 92
          HR: 113
          K: 103
          BB: 101

          100 is average. So, 113 means you are 13% more likely to homer at GABP than at a neutral park. Coors Field is also at exactly 113 for HR, tied for first with GABP.

          Reds overall offensive number of 102 is tied for 7th, so when people spout “Oh, GABP is such a hitter’s paradise!” we can say “Sure, about 2% more paradisical than average.”

  15. You could be right about Peraza losing at bats but in mind I expected BP to set and Peraza plays second.Of course in my mind is probably the only place that BP goes to the bench.I am just in to the full blown auditioning mode when it comes to everybody.We know BP is not part of this team’s future and I just wish we could move on from him.Do I like him?Sure do because he made us relevant along with others but its time for him to watch from the bench.

  16. Not really to CF although if he hits like this then who knows but:

    Brandon Dixon with 2 more HRs yesterday at AA….now 15 for his last 24, with 8 HRs and 18 RBIs! That’s not even believable in a video game? He has some speed and is supposed to be a good athlete. Could be another Duvall in the making?

  17. Well, well,. welll. Good to see the Cards on the bad side of contract decision, at least for now. Kolten Wong who they recently signed to a $25.5M five year contract has been optioned to AAA to make room for Jhonny Peralta.

    Maybe this should also serve as a cautionary note per taking a flyer on BHam somehow getting better because he currently seems to be on a bit of a spurt….

    • But they signed Diaz for $5-million or so and he’s been terrific so far in his young MLB career. His play is why they are sending Wong down.

      • I was thinking “there’s no way the Reds would do this” regarding demoting a player who they just extended. Cardinals devil magic.

  18. Bats underway on the road versus Syracuse (Nats affiliate). R.Stephenson starting for the Bats. None other Trea Turner leading off for Syracuse and was retired on a ground out. Stephenson allows a hit and a walk but escapes the 1st without allowing a run.

  19. Where did Dixon come from?Those kind of numbers play anywhere so lets get him up here.

    • He’s the last of the 3 from the Frazier trade. He’s 23

    • He’s the throw in that none of us saw any value in…just a warm-bodied, end-of-bench, probably-won’t-see-the-majors prospect. When I read on the trade, I cam to that same conclusion.

      It would be comical if Dixon became a stud and the others were long since forgotten come 2020.

      • Baseball is funny like that sometimes. Will Dixon keep it up? Who knows. It’s fun to think about it though. Honestly, with Dixon I thought that he’d be lucky to be an end of the bench MLB player. I thought perhaps a career MiLB player. If Dixon ends up a regular starting MLB player, the Frazier trade looks a lot better.

  20. Thanks Indy.Like you said that’s beyond video games.Still a young guy too.

    • Dixon was a 3rd rd draft pick so somebody saw something although he only hit .244 last year at AA with only 12 walks / 98 Ks. I think the new trend in what Dick Williams is looking for is a kid with athleticism and see if they can figure out the game of baseball from there. As opposed to a kid that might have better numbers in the minors or college but a little more stiff.

  21. Its a scoreless tie after 6 full innings between Louisville and Syracuse. Stephenson has allowed 5 hits, walked 2, and K’d 4; 89P/60S.

  22. I don’t see any reason to sign a player who produces 2.0 WAR in his prime years to a long term contract. Particularly BH who, as others have pointed out, relies on speed and defense to produce his value….attributes which begin to decline earlier than other skills.

    The whole valuation of WAR is skewed by better performing players hitting the free agent market. Teams are willing to pay decent money to acquire a player who performs above average because a team needs some above average players to make the playoffs. Players with 1.0 WAR aren’t being offered $7 million contracts, they are looking for jobs. And average level starters don’t typically get offered long term contracts because teams are hoping to find better.

  23. Play BHam (almost) every day then reevaluate at the end of the year. Give Holt as many starts as you like to rest Bruce, Duvall and BHam. This is all going to change anyway if / when Bruce gets traded and/or Winker gets called up. No need to decide this now.

    • Well it looks like they like Duvall. I know that I do at least as long as he keeps hitting dingers. I don’t see them cutting down his play time. Bham as much as possible Holt to fill in for Bruce once we trade him in a couple of weeks.

  24. If we do keep Billy as the starter, I really hope the team “convinces” him to drop the switch hitting and focus on one side of the plate. He seems to be consistently better from the right side although his splits haven’t been extreme.

  25. The team needs to listen to all offers on all players, Hamilton included.

    • yes I agree. Until we have a championship team all players should be expendable.

  26. Like them both,love the speed and defense.Don’t forget the light hitting SS who transformed into a pretty good bat David Concepcion,.Time and maturity is in Hamilton’s corner if he keeps working at it.

  27. This is Hamilton’s first Arbitration year if memory serves. I’d try and stick to a 4-5 yr extension.

    Regarding Holt vs hamilton in the here and now. What are there RHP/LHP splits any chance of a platoon?

    • Hamilton, for all the talk about ditching switch hitting (which I support), really isn’t much different from either side for his pro career.

      Hamilton: vs R as L: .239/.288/.320 (6.4% BB, 18.3% K)
      Hamilton: vs L as R: .256/.288/.377 (3.8% BB, 17.3% K)

      Basically, he’s bad from both sides, but shows a little more pop from the right (natural) side, while being a bit more aggressive and making a bit more contact.

      Holt doesn’t have the same data to draw upon at the MLB level, but I can state somewhat confidently that Holt is a better option at the plate than Billy in any situation, especially lefties, where Holt excels.

  28. Solid roster moves by the Reds over the past 2 days:

    6/6/16 Cincinnati Reds optioned Jon Moscot to Louisville Bats.
    6/7/16 Cincinnati Reds recalled Steve Selsky from Louisville Bats.

    Let’s hope that Selsky sticks for more than 4 days and gets more than 1 PA this time. Let’s also hope that when Disco is activated for his next start, the Reds finally DFA Pacheco. The 25-man roster is currently heavy on OF utility players (Holt, Waldrop & Selsky) and light in IF utility players (De Jesus), but the roster has sufficient defensive flexibility to manage that imbalance.

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