2016 Reds / Titanic Struggle Recap

Titanic Struggle Recap: Insert lame football reference here

Final R H E
Cincinnati Bengals (17-35) 4 8 0
Denver Broncos (24-27) 17 19 0
W: Gray (3-2) L: Moscot (0-3)
FanGraphs Win Probability | Box Score

The Good
–Joey Votto hit his ninth home run. That’s three homers in his last five games. Fingers crossed; it appears that Votto is finally heating up.

–Jay Bruce doubled in the first inning, then went back-to-back with Votto in the sixth. That was Bruce’s tenth home run of the season, and it was a 452-foot bomb. He followed that up with an 8th inning triple. It was a 3-4 night with 2 RBI, just a mere single away from the cycle.

Don’t look now, but Bruce is hitting .272/.323/.549 on the season, with 10 homers and 33 RBI; that’s roughly a pace for 31 home runs and 100 RBI. His wOBA is .365, and his wRC+ is 126. I’ll take that.

–On Gerardo Parra’s first inning double, Billy Hamilton ran the ball down in the gap and prevented what would have otherwise been a triple. Billy is fast.

The Bad
–Good to see Jon Moscot back. Not good to see him give up a homer and a double and another homer within his first six pitches of the ballgame. Later in the inning, he allowed two more doubles and a single. The score after one inning: 5-0 Rockies.

Then, in the second, Colorado hit two more home runs off Moscot. Score: 7-0. Within the first two innings, each of the Rockies’ first four hitters in the lineup had all homered.

In the third, Moscot was clipped on the right ear with a pitch as he was attempting to lay down a bunt. It just wasn’t that kid’s night. He was removed before the bottom of the third inning after allowing 7 runs on 8 hits in just those two innings pitched.

–Down 7-0 in the third, the Reds loaded the bases with no outs, opening up an opportunity to get back into the ballgame. Unfortunately, they were only able to come away with one run, on a Hamilton walk. Joey Votto and Adam Duvall each struck out, and Jay Bruce grounded out to second.

–Daniel Wright took over for Moscot in the bottom half of the third inning and, just like Moscot, he gave up a home run to the first hitter he faced. In three and a third, Wright allowed four runs on eight hits.

–Dayan Diaz took the mound next, and he had no more luck. In two-thirds of an inning, Diaz walked four, gave up two hits, and allowed five runs, including a grand slam to Charlie Blackmon.

–AJ Morris relieved Diaz. Morris walked the first hitter and gave up a double to the second. He did only surrender one run in two innings, so that’s about as good as we could hope for.

Not-So-Random Thoughts
–By the seventh inning, the Rockies had already broken a team record with 13 extra base hits. They hit more home runs in the first seven innings than the Braves hit during the entire month of April.

–Brandon Phillips was scratched from the lineup just before game time with what was described as a “left ankle/foot injury.” Jordan Pacheco took his spot.

–Well, friends…that was just awful.

Milton was unhappy with Cincinnati's performance tonight.

Milton was unhappy with Cincinnati’s performance tonight.

42 thoughts on “Titanic Struggle Recap: Insert lame football reference here

  1. One like tonight makes a person pause and think back to appreciate the job Straily did on Monday of slamming the door after getting rocked early. That’s about the only positive thing I can think of to say.

  2. Okay Chad here is your lame football reference. When I told my wife the score she said: “Colorado is in football score range and maybe soon to be in basketball score range.”

  3. I love the Reds. I absolutely love the Reds. I have had numerous, at-length arguments with my wife that have been instigated with my viewing habits of this organization. I have literally chosen this team over some of my family time in the past. I am not proud of this fact, but I assume (hope) that i am not alone in this indiscretion. With that confession being said, I may have hit rock bottom. I am very well versed on the rebuild/reboot and understand the situation the team is in. This is not the NFL where any club seems to have an equal chance at the ultimate goal. I know that a great team in Cincy will only happen once every 30ish years at best. But i love the Reds! This situation makes me sick. I feel betrayed by the front office. Other clubs that have rebuilt have not been so overwhelmingly outplayed in every facet of the game on a day to day basis. Sorry to unload, but like i said, i’ve literally argued for time with this club with my wife, and now i feel like a fool for buying into this mess.

    • I hear you.. It is indeed very disheartening… Misery loves company so I am right there with you. I too love the Reds

    • While I have my doubts about Walt’s ability to start an effective ‘rebuild,’ and can only hope for better times under Dick Williams, my only feelings of ‘betrayal’ are that the Reds did have a significant window to try to compete, and just didn’t. Ludwick getting hurt on opening day and not replacing him? Stuff like that. ….

      • Amen. The whole Ludwick nonsense should have gotten Walt run out of town.

      • Do you really think someone was going to trade the Reds a LF during the first week of the season? How much do you have to give up? Does that make you better or actually make you worse?

        Was there anyone available that wouldve allowed the Reds to win 9 more games to avoid the 1 game playoff? Would this half left fielder-half unicorn….who was both affordable and didn’t cost anything to acquire…. been able to pitch instead of Cueto in Pittsburg?

        Can we please move on from the silly 2013 LF drama? They made the playoffs and lost a 1 game elimination series where their best pitcher was shelled.

    • The Reds are bad….but no worse than 2012 Cubs or the 2012 Astros. There’s really no good way to avoid sucking when you’re rebuilding.

      • I don’t agree with the premise that teams cannot avoid sucking during a rebuild. This current Reds team with the pitching staff they thought they would have would have been a middle of the road team while continuing to retool on the fly during the year.

        While I believe it was a reach to have expected Bailey and Lamb back as quickly as they forecasted, I will stand up for the FO to the extent that nobody could have reasonably foreseen the number and longevity of the additional injuries that have beset the remaining pitching staff. I’ll also give them credit for finding two (at the least) competent replacements in Straily and Adelman.

        What’s happened in the last 3 weeks is that the wheels have fallen clear off the attempts to bridge the gap until injured guys returned or service time considerations passed to allow bringing up true prospects versus the patchwork of 4A guys who have been paraded thru.

      • I think there worse than the 2012 Cubs. The record may or may not agree. It would be hard to be worse than the 2012 Astros but I’m not ready to call their rebuilding effort a success yet either.

        • UGH… I think “they’re” worse than the 2012 Cubs. To clarify on the Astros, I don’t think the Reds are worse than the 2012 Astros but I’m not ready to call the Astros’ rebuild a success yet. They had a good year in 2015 but they haven’t looked good in 2016.

        • Agreed about the Astros. They got some unlikely good mojo last year that let them compete way earlier than expected. Dallas Kuechel and Carlos Correa haven’t been as good, nor has the rest of their rotation, nor have their role players. Carlos Gomez has been terrible. Really only Altuve is doing what is expected of him (and more).

          Give them another year to get Bregman et al up and integrated into the club and we can probably then consider their rebuild complete.

  4. Not a professional team in my opinion and therefore not worth a professional price. Though I do think it is giving us all sport to mock the utter failure of this organization. What have the Reds done right since 1990?

    • They get paid and are, therefore, professional. I assume that the question with which you conclude is rhetorical.

      • Not at all. Professional in the sense of “major league”. The Reds are not a major league team. I would imagine that there are some independent teams out there that could sweep the Reds right about now. Florence Freedom, I might actually pay to watch that.

        • Frustration is understandable, but do you really believe that? An independent league team would not sweep the Reds… .they’d take 2 of 3… 😉

        • Dan I actually agree that they aren’t really a Major League team right now. I also refuse to pay MLB prices for them and that’s why my father and I didn’t renew our modest season ticket package. Sadly, this is the first season since 2009 that we haven’t had a package and the first season since 1993 that I haven’t been to at least one game as of June. Even in 1995 I saw a game the first week play resumed.

          That said, having played against guys playing independent ball and a few that have played in the Majors, I can tell you that the Freedom would be lucky to take one of ten games, even from our lowly Reds.

        • You have redefined “professional.” And you and the Freedom (maybe not the Freedom) would be surprised if that series actually got played.

  5. Report Jocketty “not fielding calls yet on trades.”

    WELL WHAT IS HE WAITING FOR!? Here’s an idea: pick up the phone yourself! Bruce’s and Cozart’s value will NEVER be higher than it is right now.

    Just a perfect example of this front office’s ineptitude

    • They’re only a 25 game winning streak from getting back into this pennant race! Bob Castellini is not a quitter and is not throwing in the towel yet on this season.

      Catch the fever! (facepalm)

    • Do you believe every “report”? Of course, he’s taking calls. My God.

      Other teams have Internet access so Bruce and Cozart are known quantities…..they’re worth what they’re worth ( not much)…. That only changes if a team becomes desperate and no one is desperate in May.

    • Well, Cozart can’t get traded unless there is a contender who needs a shortstop. Are there any? Maybe he’s a throw-in as a backup in a Jay Bruce-to-DH sort of deal to an AL club, but I don’t know,

  6. It is past time for ushering Walt Jocketty into early retirement. Get it done today. Fire Dick Williams immediately. Then bring in some real baseball people to run the Reds organization. Castellini, Jocketty, Williams, and the younger Castellini all, mismanaged and wasted the 2010-2014 window of opportunity.
    None, admittedly, have gone through a re-building process. And now they are mismanaging the re-build much like they did their window of opportunity.
    Time to clean house in this organization. Start at the very top first and set a new tone and direction for the Reds. If the whole entire front office isn’t replaced, then it is just window dressing. The new management team can then hire a new manager and coaches, and make the necessary roster evaluations and movements. A new direction is needed. A new management team won’t have the familiarity bond to the players and can make the cold and calculated decisions on a new direction and a new roster for the Reds.
    For Williams to change the manager and coaches for next season just places a band-aid over a much larger and festering wound. The Reds front office is a cancer on this organization and needs to be sur

    • The end of the last sentence got cut off. That should read “surgerically removed.”

    • An absurd overreaction. Perhaps you could share with us some succesful rebuilds that took 2 months? Using your “logic” why weren’t Epstein and Luhnow fired in 2012? Those rebuilds were no further along than the Reds at the time.

      • Overreaction?? Hardly.
        That is an absurd leap you make from Walt Jocketty to Epstein and Luhnow.
        Those guys were brought in with the explicit task to re-build. Those guys had a plan. Can you actually tell me what the Reds rebuild plan is?
        You are comparing apples to watermelons, Mr. Walt apologist.

        • Most people would take Epstein over Jocketty..Jocketty’s career numbers trounce Luhnow, who’s had 1 winning season in 5.

          You must live in some sort of baseball fantasy land where money is no object…guys never get hurt …and player evaluation-projection is an actual science.

          What was Houston’s “plan”? What was the Cubs ” plan”? Trade everything you can for prospects and suck enough so you draft high. Last time I checked that is what the Reds are doing.

          The Cubs have almost unlimited resources and the best FO in baseball….they had every break go there way and it still took 3 years. The Astros took 4…..and you want to fire Williams after 2 months? Unbelievable.

  7. I clicked on the box score and noticed that Billy saw 26 pitches in his 4 PA’s last night.
    This is another small thing that I have been noticing about Billy this year. He seems to have gotten better at extending his AB’s this year.

    Pitches seen last night with most everybody getting 4 PA’s

    Billy 26
    Duvall 17
    Cozart 13
    Bruce 13
    Suarez 11
    Votto 11
    Barnhart 11

    • Good to see Duvall at least extending his ABs some even if he did rack up 2 more K’s. I didn’t see the Duvall K in the 3rd inning; but in the 8th inning, he seemed to lose patience after getting himself to a 2-1 count by taking a couple of close pitches. I think hen is making progress on this; only time will tell if positive results are achieved.

    • Excellent point. Hamilton is clearly looking more comfortable and having better at-bats. It hasn’t completely translated into results yet, but I think he is a bright spot in a dim season.

  8. We will see in a month to 6 weeks if indeed this front office has a plan.Our pitching is full of guys that don’t belong on a major league roster and until we get everybody back or call up Stephensen and Reed or both we will have more nights like this.I will stick to my guns and say that pitching will not be a problem going forward.We are loaded with talent and surely we can fill 12-13 spots with some left over.The rest of this team needs to be addressed and if not we will be setting here next year talking about not being able to score any runs.As WVREDLEGS said we need a new roster.This front office can’t continue to field the same players that have the same flaws,and expect different results.The vets on this team with declining skills along with high salaries must go and soon.

  9. The Reds announced before last night’s debacle that they did not intend to make further changes to the starting rotation at this time. I see this as an indication they believe Disco is over the hump and will be back after one or at the most two more rehab starts.

    Where things really begin to get interesting is that this places Disco’s return at roughly the same time as where the Super2 eligibility window should close. Perhaps we will see a single major rotation overhaul with Disco and (presumably) Stephenson coming on board at the same time.

  10. Got a chance to talk to loyal RLN reader, Dwayne/Duane (sorry!), last night at the game. It was certainly a good time.

    He doesn’t post, so I told him he needs to start!!

  11. The rebuild is on the cusp of emerging from limbo. In about 3 weeks, when the starting pitchers begin to come off the DL, and the years-of-control and Super2 arbitration issues are settled, the roster will look completely different.

    We can expect to see Winker, Peraza, Stephenson and Cody Reed in Cincinnati, and some of the AA pitchers moving to AAA. Disco, Bailey, Iglesias and Lorenzen should finally be pitching. Eight “new” players, all part of the future, will be put into regular roles, and 8 guys will be DFAed or demoted.

    I still think that they should go to a 6-man rotation in a few weeks. There is no sense in taxing any arms this year.

  12. Hamilton also 1-3 with a BB… Over his last 30 days or so, he’s hitting a bit. I like how he’s been hitting this year more than I’ve ever liked how he’s been hitting. That isn’t saying a whole lot but it’s enough to tell me that I want to see where he is at the end of the season to see if he just may hit enough to be on the next good Reds team.

  13. It seems that Hamilton’s work with Votto on the art of hitting is starting to show some positive results.

    • Just looked at Billy’s plate discipline numbers, and WOW… he’s improved fantastically. Check this out…

      Swing %
      2014: 44.5%
      2015: 44.0%
      2016: 44.9%

      Ok, pretty consistent… now, look at his out-of-zone swing% vs in-zone swing%:

      2014: 29.6% o-swing, 61.1% z-swing
      2015: 27.6% o-swing, 63.5% z-swing
      2016: 21.3% o-swing, 67.0% z-swing

      Improvement in discipline every year. Swinging at less balls and more strikes. That type of thing would normally coincide with increased offensive production. With Billy, looks like an unfortunate consequence has occurred…

      Outside-the-zone Contact% (o-contact%)
      2014: 72.9%
      2015: 72.5%
      2016: 82.1%

      He’s making much more contact on balls, which he likely hits with even less authority than he hits strikes with…

      This would normally be a good thing, but given that the IF always plays Billy so far in, this could be the reason why he is rarely getting hits on ground balls. Too much contact on bad pitches, leading to soft and medium hit grounders to a drawn-in infield.

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