Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (9-14) 1 6 0
Pittsburgh Pirates (14-9) 4 7 0
W: Nicasio (3-2) L: Straily (1-1) S: Melancon (6)
FanGraphs Win Probability | Box Score

The Good
–Not a lot to enjoy about tonight’s game, but here’s something: Joey Votto had a classic Joey Votto line. Votto went 2-3 with a walk. He was the only Red with more than one hit, but we keep waiting for Votto to start hitting like himself again, so my fingers are crossed.

–I’m going to put Dan Straily’s performance tonight under the “Good” heading, because I can do whatever I want. It wasn’t the best outing ever, but I’m liking what I see from Straily. Tonight: six innings, two runs allowed on five hits and three walks, five strikeouts.

–Jay Bruce doubled in his first game back from paternity leave. Jordan Pacheco also doubled. In the ninth, Tucker Barnhart (who continues to play well) doubled in a meaningless run. Well, I’m sure it wasn’t meaningless to Tucker. Or Tucker’s mom. I bet they enjoyed it. Heck, I enjoyed it too, but it didn’t change the outcome.

The Bad
–From closer to the seventh inning. JJ Hoover entered in the seventh with the Reds down 2-0. He left with the Reds losing 4-0, having surrendered a two-run homer. I can’t believe that ball ended up going over the fence; it wasn’t hit very well at all. But it was a home run and Hoover’s ERA is 15.58 and I just don’t know what’s going on with that guy. I was hopeful he had turned the corner.

Okay, that’s a half-hearted defense of Hoover. He’s been awful. Not much more I can say about that.

Not-So-Random Thoughts
–Reds lose again. The Bengals were more interesting tonight, without question.

–The Reds have lost nine of their first ten road games. I haven’t checked the advanced metrics, but I don’t think that’s a very good record.

–Dan Straily is never going to be a star, but I’d like to see him as the Reds fifth starter even after all the injured pitchers return. Grabbing Straily off waivers was a good little move from a team (the Reds, that’s the team I’m talking about right now) that can use guys like him during this rebuilding process.

As Patrick noted, this was only the second time all season that Votto reached base three times in a season. It’s almost May. I simply cannot believe that this is true.

–That’s it for me. Good night.

42 Responses

  1. BigRedMike

    1-7 now in this 13 game stretch

    Excited that Simon gets another start, he has clearly earned it : (

    Other than the young starters, this team is not really worth watching

    • Gaffer

      Excited Stephenson gets another start . . . In AAA.

      • ohiojimw

        we need to start a countdown of days left until Stephenson is clear of future Super2 status.

        Stephenson’s line tonight was was 6IP, 3H, 2R (both earned), 3BB, 11K. It did take him 101 pitches (62 strikes) to get thru the 6 innings. Also he allowed a HR.

      • DHud

        That’s what you call filling the stat sheet. Reactions would be: 6 IP, meh… 3 H, wow. 2 R, meh…. 3 BB, boo. 11 K, WOW! 101 pitches, meh. 62 strikes, ugh. 1 HR, please no.

        Overall, just waiting for that day on the calendar!

      • Vicferrari

        Homers and 3 walk outings are going to happen, it is impressive he got through 6 and only 2 runs, if this is his meh start then start the countdown, BTW what is the date, I thought he needed 12 more days last time he started but I am not sure if that included Super 2 status.

      • ohiojimw

        RE:Super 2. The Super 2 is a different thing. It is the top 22% of players, ranked by MLB service time, in any given year that have more than 2 years of MLB service time (344 days) but less than the 3 full years (516 days) required for automatic arbitration eligibility.That top 22% (and ties) are granted arbitration and have 4 arb eligible years instead of 3.Thus the cutoff t is a moving target both in terms of days required and number of players who make it in any given year. estimates that typically it takes two years plus 130 (or more) days to make Super 2 in most seasons. In calendar terms that covers from around the of the first week of June to the end of the season.

        Making super 2 does NOT impact the total time a player remains under team control. All players remain under team control through the end of the season in which they attain 6 full years of MLB service time (6×172=1032 service days). Stephenson has already been held back long enough that the Red could bring him up now and still control him for 6 seasons after this year. Winker is in the same category. Peraza had 42 days of MLB service prior to this year; thus, hen is not quite there yet.

    • TR

      I’m not too excited about Simon starting against Pitt tonight. The D.C Correspondents Dinner should provide some political humor.

  2. Mark Lang

    Sing it with me: “And we’ve only just begunnnnnnnn…… to loooooose….. so many games to go…. so many more drubbings we’re gonna take….”

    • msanmoore

      OUCH! … +10 for truthfulness even if it hurts.

  3. VaRedsFan

    I posted this in the game thread on the HR that Hoover gave up.

    Wow…watching that replay, Schebler got there and LITERALLY WATCHED the ball hit the top of the 7 foot padded wall. He actually shied away from it. He would be in the minors tomorrow, if anybody had a backbone. Total lack of effort.

    • vegastypo

      I didn’t see it, but Brantley made a comment about whether Schebler actually saw the ball. Sad if he did and just watched it go.

    • Vicferrari

      I have not seen the replay or either of the 2 drops but the fact that he is still on the roster let alone starting is indefensible. He clearly is over matched and has talent judging by how hard he hits when he actually makes contact. Start Holt since he has been hitting and getting on base until he cools off. Let Schebler botch plays at Louisville and call him up when he learns not to K so much.

    • Vicferrari

      I still am irritated that he was the first choice late in the game Tuesday, Mes was on the bench and the tying run was on. I know Mes is struggling but is there anyone who actually thinks Schebler’s the better hitter??? too much emphasis on lefty/righty matchups

    • ohiojimw

      They have a way of beating the Bucs at home. Actually won the season series with them last year because of. So they win one NLT the end of series versus the Bucs during the next home stand.

  4. Indy RedMan

    Getting eliminated in April isn’t fun. We’ve been no-hit and now its prob Milwaukee’s turn. The 2 teams are like Indiana and Purdue in Big Ten football. Sorry but we can’t be your homecoming game!

    • ohiojimw

      Having followed the CBJ in hockey (too long), I unfortunately have much experience with these early eliminations.

      If the Reds run true to form, at some point after the All Star break, they will cobble together some awkward mix of aging vets looking to stick around another year and emerging youngsters which send them on a (meaningless) winning binge rivaling even the best in the league over that period. However for the CBJ at least, come next season, like humpty dumpty, they are never able to put it back together again.

      • lwblogger2

        This season was horribly disappointing. Don’t know hockey nearly as well as I do baseball though, so can’t even begin to say what they can do to be better.

    • TR

      But IU football and the Reds have it in gear to be competitive in the near future.

  5. ohiojimw

    All orgs, and especially the Reds, take care of their home grown talent first. Thus if it is even a bit of a close call, Moscot will get a nod over Straily unless it would involve exposing Straily to waivers when Moscot could be safely optioned.

  6. Indy RedMan

    Worst run differential in baseball….yes we’ve played the Cubs a bunch already but we’re practiced in the art of being multidefeatable. I’m sure the June version of Hoover will need some work to “Get it Going” just as much as the April version

  7. PARedsfan

    That’s atleast 41 home runs given up by this pitching staff already…..yikes, brutal. No doubt “home run Hoover” is responsible for some of those. Hopefully reinforcements are returning sooner than later…..

  8. DHud

    I was the biggest advocate for ditching Hoover after the disastrous 2014 season. Then 2015 happened, and I thought maybe I had been a little harsh. Now it’s starting to seem like 2014 is more of the real Hoover than 2015.

    Enough already. He had the opportunity; he had the chance; he isn’t capable.

    Sadly though, who else do we have?

  9. sezwhom

    Is it football season yet because Reds baseball is going to go on like married life.

    • ohiojimw

      I don’t even follow the NFL but I’ve spent more time tonight keeping track of the Buckeyes in the draft than the Reds. The Bucks ended up with 10 players chosen in the first 94 picks. Somebody posted a graphic on Twitter than 28% of the players drafted so far are from OSU, Clemson, or Alabama

  10. Dan

    When is Hoover going to lose out on 2nd chances? Isn’t it time to cut bait?

    • vegastypo

      Look at the bright side: Hoover’s ERA might be 15.58 now, but it’s hardly any worse than when the inning started: 15.26. He’s about reached the point where he can only get better.

      I think.

      • Dan

        i’d just prefer someone else to get a chance. We have seen enough of him over the past few years to know what he brings to the table and it will never be good.

  11. Jay King

    Hoover seems to be on a every other year. I’m good , I’m bad and so on.. The guy either has something wrong with his arm, or maybe he has changed something in his delivery.. If I am the coaching staff I’m spending a few hours watching tape of this year vs. tape of last year.

    I honestly have never felt comfortable with them thinking he was going to be a closer. nice set up guy normally but silly to think he can close. Lorenzen should close once he is back

    ps. chapman’s return to baseball is coming May 9.. Can’t wait to watch him plow down AL hitters even if it is for the Yankees

    • Dan

      I will never cheer for anyone in the pin stripes. Hope his arm blows out in the first week.

    • TR

      Congratulations to Aroldis Chapman on becoming a citizen of the U.S.A.

  12. docmike

    I was impressed with Straily as well. He could be a perfectly serviceable 5th starter on a good team. He is certainly good enough to be in our rotation right now.

  13. GreatRedLegsFan

    When is Price going to be dismssed?

    • vegastypo

      He’s under contract through the end of the season. Which is also when Walt steps out of the way for Dick Williams. I’d imagine the change won’t occur until then, when Williams can pick his own guy.

  14. Indy RedMan

    Bob Steve had 11 ks and Winker hit the game winning 3 run HR off of lefty Blake Snell…who’s is Tampa’s #1 prospect and already pitched a decent game in the bigs last week. Those guys + Reed and Peraza are the only reason to watch this team. I hope Cozart stays hot so they can deal him and get some help? Cozart will be 31 this season and we’re prob 2-3 years away minimum?

    • ohiojimw

      I think the Reds are a ~.500 team in 2017. Could even get a sniff at a wild card and who knows if things fell right for them. Then starting in 2018 they should be considered on the clock.

      • Indy RedMan

        I thought that way coming into the year but the young pitchers will have to take their lumps and we don’t have the offense to compensate? I’m old enough to know better but I put stock in their spring training offense this year and thought we would really score some runs! I thought Meso was the missing link from last year? We’ll see…its early? We need to deal some pitching and Cozart and get 2 sticks that can contribute….prob a catcher to platoon w/Barnhart. Meso is either still hurt or just not that good…either one sinks this offense?

      • ohiojimw

        Notice you did not mention BHam.
        I think we all have just become accepting that they believe his defense justifies running him out there every day.

        As I’ve said here before, if he is playing he about has to bat 9th; but having to support 2 “pitchers” in the lineup is a real anchor for this already questionable offense to carry.

        I’d like to see Holt get a run of starts in CF to determine just how much the defense would drop off and if perhaps he might add enough offensively to offset that.