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Cardinals at Reds – September 11, 2015

The Cincinnati Reds (58-81) will look to continue their winning ways against the St. Louis Cardinals (88-52). Last night, the Reds gave the Cardinals a surprising 11-0 beat down. It was the Reds largest margin of victory against the Cardinals since June 4, 1971. In last night’s win, every starting position player reached base, and every starter expect #8 hitter Tucker Barnhart collected a hit.

Starting Pitchers

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Michael Lorenzen is coming off one of his best starts of his young career. Lorenzen allowed just two runs in 5.1 innings on Sunday. Lorenzen only allowed one walk, and didn’t allow a homer. Walks and homers have been two of his biggest issues this season.

Lorenzen needs to finish 2015 very strong if he wants serious consideration for the 2016 rotation. Right now, Lorenzen’s strikeouts, walks, and home runs allowed are well below average. He is only 23 years old though, and with a fastball that can touch nearly 100, he has plenty of time to figure things out.

Lorenzen’s lone career start against the Cardinals came on August 6th, and he didn’t pitch too poorly: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 5 K.

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John Lackey is enjoying one of the best seasons of his 13-year career at age 36. Lackey’s 2.90 ERA is the best mark of his career. That being said, Lackey hasn’t really done anything great this season. He ranks 63rd in the MLB in K/9, 29th in BB/9, and 28th in HR/9. I wouldn’t say that Lackey has been completely lucky this season, but he has been more lucky than good. Lackey has had pretty good success against the Reds, posting a career 3.02 ERA and 0.91 WHIP in 7 starts.

Starting Lineups

Jay Bruce moves back into the #2 spot, Adam Duvall gets another start in LF, and Ramon Cabrera starts at catcher for the second time for the Reds.

The Cardinals play their third different CF in three days, as they go with Jon Jay tonight. Greg Garcia makes just his second start of September for the Cardinals.

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1. Matt Carpenter (3B)
2. Stephen Piscotty (LF)
3. Jason Heyward (RF)
4. Jhonny Peralta (SS)
5. Yadier Molina (C)
6. Brandon Moss (1B)
7. Greg Garcia (2B)
8. Jon Jay (CF)
9. John Lackey (P)
1. Billy Hamilton (CF)
2. Jay Bruce (RF)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Brandon Phillips (2B)
5. Todd Frazier (3B)
6. Eugenio Suarez (SS)
7. Adam Duvall (LF)
8. Ramon Cabrera (C)
9. Michael Lorenzen (P)

Today in Reds history

There is a lot of history on September 11th for the Reds. Today marks the 30th anniversary of Pete Rose breaking Ty Cobb’s all-time hit record on September 11, 1985. The guys at Baseball Tonight discussed Pete Rose and his record. You can actually watch the entire game when Pete Rose broke the record on the MLB Classics page on Youtube.

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Five years ago today, Pete Rose was allowed on the field for the first time. Joey Votto added some fireworks of his own, as he hit his first career walk-off home run. The win pushed the Reds lead in the NL Central up to 7.0 games, and helped the Reds cruise to their first trip to the postseason in 15 years.

Never Forget

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Today also marks fourteen years since the terrible tragedy on September 11th, 2001. Today is a great day to remember all of those who lost their life on that fateful day. One of the beautiful things that came from 9/11 was how our country came together. Baseball was one of the things that helped the recovery process.

ESPN released a really great 30 for 30 short film today called “First Pitch.” It documents the significants of the first pitch thrown out by President Bush before Game 3 of the 2001 World Series. The 2001 World Series turned out to be one of, if not the single greatest World Series of all-time. It couldn’t have come at a better time.

Mary Beth Ellis wrote about the Reds following September 11th, 2001 earlier this year for Redleg Nation:

In the aftermath of 9/11, with teams stranded far from home fields and fans not particularly eager to sit amassed in those stadiums, major league baseball was suspended while the nation was very much not OK.

The Reds were in Chicago when the attacks took place. I attended the first home game at Riverfront after 9/11. A hole in the center field wall gave view to the dirt and cranes which would eventually become the Great American Ball Park. As a grad student cobbling together multiple jobs and a thesis, I wasn’t attending many ballgames at the time, but it seemed a patriotic duty to show up. So I bought a walk-up ticket in the red seats, drifted down to the blue, and felt actual, fight-or-flight fear as I paced up and down the ramps I’d been walking since childhood.

A droning airplane in the distance made the entire crowd turn and anxiously scan the skies. We were forcing the OK, but only because we knew that forcing the OK would make the actual OK arrive eventually.

Mancuso and Maffie on Paul Daugherty

Steve Mancuso and Mike Maffie wrote a great piece today showing the hypocrisy in Cincinnati Enquirer writer Paul Daugherty when it comes to Joey Votto. Meanwhile, another national writer, Jonah Keri wrote a piece praising Votto today.

Reds to set record for rookie SP

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Tonight will mark the 42nd consecutive game that the Reds have started a rookie pitcher. That will set an MLB record that was 113 years old. The 1902 St. Louis Cardinals started 41 consecutive games with a rookie a pitcher.

Concluding Thoughts

The Reds will try once again to avoid losing for the 82nd time in 2015, and clinching another losing season. The Cardinals aren’t playing their best baseball of late (lost 6 of 8), so maybe the Reds can continue to crash their party. The Pirates are just 4.5 games back on the Cardinals. Go Reds!

46 thoughts on “Cardinals at Reds – September 11, 2015

  1. We’re heading up for Saturday and Sunday’s games. Bought the tickets in tiqiq.

  2. Nick, I’m glad you brought up that Lackey has been more lucky than good. This is a trait that has permeated almost every member of STL’s staff this year, just like hitting with RISP permeated every STL hitter in 2013. Sure would be nice to be on the ‘luck’ side of the Bell curve for once!

  3. Votto got a 2 game suspension but he’ s appealing. Two thoughts: 1) How many games will Welke be suspended? 2) Perhaps PD could serve the suspension on Joey’s behalf. He would be suspended two columns in the paper. Just a thought.

    • Laughable. He’ll end up with a 1 game suspension, which is completely ridiculous.

      If this were the NFL, Votto might get a raise for that.

  4. Lets see how Lorenzen looks tonite? I think people have been way too hard on him. One season at AA last year and then he was just thrown into the mix this year without really any seasoning and he actually started great. He was at 3.53 thru July 9th with 12 starts out of 13 with 3 ER or less. He’s got to come inside more and start these guys 0-1 so they’ll have the expectation of swinging early instead of working him. He can only pick up this stuff with experience. Homer got rushed up but not this fast? I might need to look that up?

    • I agree that most have been too tough on him. He is only 23 as I stated. That being said, his peripheral numbers are not good at all. I think he still has a solid future, but I don’t think he is a SP on this team in 2016.

      • K’d Carpenter on a change….K’d Peralta on a nice curveball. I don’t know? He’s got the arsenal to be a very good starter.

    • Homer had 62 starts in the minors before his 07 debut w/the Reds. Lorenzen had just 28 starts in the minors before his debut.

  5. Solid bunt for Billy to start the game…then SB and a Molina error.
    Molina has never thrown Billy out.

  6. Frazier….lol. You get 2 strikes on him and he will literally swing at anything.

  7. Well, that’s one positive outcome of Votto’s ejection: we were introduced to Mr. Ramon Cabrera. His first hit wasn’t a fluke!

  8. 2 inches off the plate…ball to Votto. 3 inches off the plate….Duvall or whatever your name is….grab some bench….the suits upstairs want a faster game.

    • He keeps getting beat on breaking pitches. Price should remind Mike that he throws 95 so no need to hang breaking balls to pitchers hitting .115? Lorenzen very rarely comes inside with his fb as well? It could be a bad habit from pitching in college vs aluminum bats? He needs a splitter or something else too?

  9. Lorenzen just doesn’t have it tonight.He is really lucky to have given up only 2 runs through 4 innings on 9 hits.Hope Price doesn’t leave him out there to get hammered.

  10. Brandon is very quietly having an outstanding year.
    .295 12HR 60RBI + arguably the best defense in baseball
    It would have been such a great time to move him. As much as I want him to retire as a Redleg, I’m just thinking about the team first. Cincy could do a lot of things with his salary. And with the emergence of Surez’s bat, I bet anything he would be a better 2nd baseman than SS. But like I always say….
    Brandon may be a hot dog….but he’s OUR hot dog.

  11. Frazier looked lost. That coupled with BP’s first-pitch hacking made for an anemic attempt to bring Billy home.

  12. Well Redleg fans, we finally get to see Finnegan. Looked pretty good too. I really like Lamb also, but Finnegan was supposed to be the jewel of the Cueto deal.

    Why is Frazier swinging at that low & outside garbage again? I thought he put a stop to that non-sense?

  13. Good call by Price to get Lorenzen out of the game.No use going any further with him.I got a feeling if we can push across a couple of runs then we can take this game.Go Reds.

  14. Billy with a bunt hit, double to left and single up the middle. Throw in 2 SB’s + advancing to 3rd on 2 errors. Quite the night so far. Was only driven in once though.

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