Titanic Struggle Recap

Welcome to the Skip Schumaker Defensive Horror Show

The Reds offense jumped all over Matt Garza on Saturday afternoon in the first game of a doubleheader. Jason Bourgeois began the afternoon with a 13-pitch at-bat. The result was a pop-up, but it set the tone for a short afternoon for Garza.

Eugenio Suarez led the Reds with three hits and two runs driven in off Garza. Brandon Phillips also had two hits and a walk off Garza. The Reds scored five runs, and chased Garza before he could get out of the fifth inning.

John Lamb pitched really well through the first five innings, and was well on his way to his first MLB win. Then the sixth inning and Skip Schumaker happened. Lamb gave up a cheap single to Ryan Braun to begin the inning, and then his defense really let him down. Skip Schumaker misplayed two balls, and then Jason Bourgeois misplayed another ball. Lamb left the game with the score tied at five, but Sam LeCure came in and gave the Brewers a 6-5 lead.

The Reds loaded the bases with no one out in the seventh inning, but Skip Schumaker grounded into a double play. The Reds tied the game, but were only able to get one run in the inning.

It only took one pitch in the eighth inning for J.J. Hoover to give the Brewers the lead back. The Brewers number eight hitter, Elian Herrera, drilled a pitch into the sun deck in right-field.

The Brewers added another run in the ninth inning. The Reds brought the winning run to the plate in the bottom of the ninth, but Frazier struck out and Schumaker lined out off Francisco Rodriguez to end the game. It will be a quick turnaround for the two clubs, as the second game of the doubleheader begins at 6:10.

Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (55-78) 6 12 1
Milwaukee Brewers (59-75) 8 14 1
W: Jeffress (5-0) L: Hoover (7-1) S: Rodriguez (34)
FanGraphs Win Probability | Box Score | Game Thread

WPA REDS BREW

Biggest Play of the Game

According to Fangraphs WPA statistic (winning percentage added), the most important play of the game was J.J. Hoover allowing a solo home run to Elian Herrera to lead off the 8th inning, giving the Brewers a 7-6 lead. That play decreased the Reds chances of winning by 27.5% (from 50.0% to 22.5%)

Player of the Game

Brandon Phillips: 4 for 4, 1 BB, 1 R, 1 RBI, 0.27 WPA

Phillips had a big day at the plate, reaching base four times. Going back to Wednesday, Phillips has reached base in 8 consecutive PA! Phillips now has a .331 OBP on the season, which is his best since he posted a .353 OBP in 2011.

Positives

Joey Votto extended his on-base streak to 23 games, as he reached base four times (2 walks, 2 singles). Votto has now reached base at least once in 117 of the 131 games he has played in, and reached base twice in 98 games.

Eugenio Suarez had a 3-hit day. Suarez had a pair of singles and a double. He drove in 2 runs for the good guys.

I’ll take the glass half full look on John Lamb again. He was really good through the first five innings. If he has a capable defense behind him, he most likely gets out of that inning with at least a two run lead. Lamb’s peripheral numbers look really good. Counting today, he has a 3.50 FIP, and has 33 K’s to just 7 BB. The thing that Lamb has struggled with through his first three starts was the long ball, which he didn’t allow any of today.

Jason Bourgeois had a 13-pitch AB to begin the game. It ended with a pop-up, but that isn’t important. It was nice to see the Reds leadoff hitter work the pitcher. Process > Results

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Todd Frazier (with the help of Joey Votto) made an incredible play in the 3rd inning.

Frazier

Negatives

Just stop with this nonsense of playing Skip Schumaker regularly. There is no chance that Schumaker is on the Reds roster next season, so playing him does nothing to help the future. Adam Duvall and Ryan LaMarre both probably are not going to be the Reds next everyday LF, but they at least have a future with this club. Skip Schumaker starting in 8 of the last 16 games is absolute madness.

Chris Welsh said during the Reds broadcast that Bryan Price doesn’t want to play Duvall in LF because he is inexperienced there (he didn’t start playing LF until this season in the minors). Yet, Price will play Skip Schumaker, who is one of the worst fielders in MLB history. He entered play on Saturday with -60 career defensive runs saved. Welsh called out Price for his hypocrisy too for saying a while back that he will play the younger players, but he hasn’t.

Skip

J.J. Hoover has a really nice season, but he was not sharp today.

Not so random thoughts……………..

Reds broadcaster Chris Welsh had some wise words talking about Joey Votto. Jim Kelsh said something along the lines of people in the Reds organization wanting Votto to drive in more runs. Welsh’s response was spot on:

“Why would you want to change him? You want to take him from an MVP type player to somebody who’s mediocre? No, I think it’s easier to change the other side of the coin there, and the guys that are surrounding him.” 

Well done Chris Welsh. At least someone in the organization understands how valuable Joey Votto is. Then after Votto reached base for the 4th time in the game, Welsh said this:

“I have not seen a player this hard to retire since Barry Bonds at the height of his glory.”

Up Next:

You won’t have to wait long to watch the next Reds game. Well, actually you can’t watch the second game. There is no TV broadcast of the game in Cincinnati. So you better hurry up and drive down to GABP if you really want to watch two teams fight for fourth place in the NL Central. If you live outside of Cincinnati and have MLB.tv, you will be able watch the Brewers broadcast.

Brewers at Reds (Game 2 of a DH)
Saturday, 6:10 PM
TV: None (radio on 700 WLW)
Keyvius Sampson (6 GS, 6.43 ERA, 4.61 FIP) vs Wily Peralta (16, 4.30 ERA, 4.47 FIP)

38 thoughts on “Welcome to the Skip Schumaker Defensive Horror Show

  1. Thank you for this, Nick. I could go for hours an angry Skip Schumaker rants, but it’s at least comforting to know I’m not alone in my opinions about Grit. I mean honestly, everyone from Price through Castellini can’t watch him and think “this guy gives us the best chance to win” or “there are no better options out there available to us”

  2. Shhh. Don’t say anything, but I think Welsh may actually be a Sabremetric mole.

  3. It looks like Price doesn’t care at all….and will play Schumaker, like it or not! I know if I was a interview person, I would get in a fight! I would ask Price, why he doesn’t want to play Duvall makes sense, but then “Why are you playing Schumaker then?” “Also, why are you doing this or that too?”

    • This team is already eliminated, and Duval needs practice. Why NOT play him? I am not someone who is given to overreaction but Price is the worst manager I have seen since Ray Knight.

  4. Thanks Nick,I too could go on for hours about Price but the whole front office must be clueless as well to allow Skip or Jason to play at all the balance of this year.It makes no sense to anybody.

  5. Good call Jeff.Somebody should ask him why Skip is playing.Ask him some tough questions.Price is an embarrassment to Reds fan everywhere.

    • Two part question:
      1) Is Skip Schumaker in the plans for next year? (obvious no)
      2) Then why is he playing

    • At this point, careful with the questions to Price because it could set off another explosion.

    • …For the Florence Freedom. Otherwise, for what he’s getting paid, he’s not earning it. Look, from all I’ve heard, he is a class-act guy and nothing personal but it’s long past time to be running him out there. There are a lot of young players that the Reds need to be evaluating this month and all Skip is doing is taking away time from that happening.

  6. I liked the idea of starting Lamb (instead of Sampson) against Garza in Game 1, giving the Reds a better chance to take advantage of Garza.

    And it would have made sense to start his A lineup, which I thought he had, until I see Schumaker in LF and batting 6th (ahead of Suarez !). Ugh.

  7. The look on Lamb’s face after Bourgeois misplayed Lind’s fly ball into a double was one of agony. I don’t blame him. Lamb should have been thru 6 with a 5-1 lead, well on his way to his first major league win.

    Bourgeois turns one way, then the other, then gives up and runs looking at the wall on a fly ball that landed just out of his reach. Nick was merciful in not displaying video of that.

  8. I thought Bryan Price was a great choice as manager with his stellar work with the pitchers. Turns out he is a Dusty Baker clone and we need a change before next season.

    • He is not quite a DB clone because they won 90 games in a season two or three times on DB’s tenure. From what I’ve seen if Price was given the same personnel, he doesn’t do that and on the flip side, DB wouldn’t be contending with the current crew but neither would he be looking at needing to pull a rabbit out of the hat to avoid losing 100.

  9. Good for Chris Welsh on Votto. He’s the one Reds broadcaster who consistently makes sense.

    • Wouldn’t it be nice if Chris Welsh became the voice of the Reds when Marty retires.

  10. After the trade of Marlon Byrd, Schumaker was asked who’d be playing LF. His (serious) reply: “If the Reds are starting me a lot, they’re in trouble.”

    Seems that Skip and Price need to get on the same page.

    Players used to say” “Play me or trade me.” Maybe Skip should say: “Sit me or release me.”

  11. Hoover has now given up 5 HRs since the all star break, all of them critical. His FIP is now over 4 and his K/BB ratio a pathetic 1.54. How is that a “really nice season” ?

    Closer of the future ? Ugh.

    • I wish Marty was working with Welch so we could have heard the debates over Votto and Schumaker

        • PS I heard Marty’s call late in the game and he was still lamenting Schumaker’s OF defense.

        • There’s probably not a debate on this game, but generally on why Schumaker should be playing. He’s seems to be Marty’s second favorite after Phillips.

  12. I really thought that ugly dance that Bourgeois did in center was worse than the poster boy of WJ’s incomptence. I asked on another comment I think Lamb is very close to being part of the answer does he need to play fall ball or winter ball or rest? Any opinions I don’t know enough to have a comptent opinion.

    • Lamb will throw ~135 inning by the end of the 2015 season following 138 innings in 2014. His recovery looks complete and successful. Personally, I would allow him to begin an off-season strengthening, stretching and conditioning program with the intent to add him as the 5th starter and limit his 2016 innings.

    • I agree. That was a high fly ball to the warning track in straightaway center field.
      All Bourgeois had to do was run straight back and settle under it. I know a line drive right at you is tough but over your head is a tough play, but that was not a line drive.
      Any major league CFer catches that ball.

      If he catches it, the Reds probably win, it cost 3 runs.

      After the game, Lamb said he watched the game video, and he (Lamb) had “done what he wanted to do.” He was including the 6th inning, obviously. He of course didn’t point a finger at anyone, just said that “unfortunate things happened”.

  13. Why is Schumaker even on the field? Play the kids, this the best time to see what they can do. Skip should just be a pinch hitter until the Reds gets rid of him.

  14. What makes you so certain Schumaker will not be back next year?

    This is still Walt’s teams right now.

  15. I was at the game. Could not figure out why Bourgeois was running back like that. That was turning point for sure. The place was so quiet i though i had actually heard Marty

  16. “Jim Kelsh said something along the lines of people in the Reds organization wanting Votto to drive in more runs.”

    If this is what the Reds organization is wanting then it’s quite scary as it implies a fundamental misunderstanding of the game.

  17. Has there been a thread started addressing the next wave of future ex Cardinals with gritty toughness and bad stats to populate the Reds roster? I think it’s time:

    Pitching Candidates- Broxton/Belisle- Both Ex Reds and Ex Cards- double points and we know Walt loves to overpay for injury prone veteran relievers. Choate is another guy- he’s 40. Perfect. Prime candidate for the $3 million club buyout at age 42.

    Position players- Mark Reynolds-This guy was born to play for the Reds and he will fulfill that destiny. Fits perfectly into the Sunday line up tank. Pete Kozma-next version of Skip. He’s hitting .163 with a .242 OBP but a great defensive player and versatile and the Cards thought really high of him at one point.

    Ex Cardinals now- Colby Rasmus- sub .300 OBP, ridiculous K/BB ratio but 18 HR….perfect.
    I really like John Jay in 2018. Declining stats, injury prone, aging. Could be a 2017 addition if he really tanks.

    Business day special line up 2016:

    Hamilton CF
    Kozma SS
    BP 2b
    Reynolds 1b
    Rasmus LF
    Bruce RF
    Dejesus LF
    Barnhart C
    Lohse P- Walt can’t help himself and he was available

    • If Jocketty continues to make the personnel decisions, I’m not sure the former Cardinals pipeline will continue. I discovered as I looked into this, Jocketty hasn’t been signing just any former Cardinals players – he’s been signing ones who *played when he was the GM* and the number of those guys still available is declining fast. Jocketty may not be so keen to sign the guys that were Cardinals under the GM who replaced him in St. Louis. Ridiculous either way.

  18. Rasmus drafted in 2005, jay in 2006, and Kozma in 2007 by the Cardinals under Walt’s watch.

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