The Giants (17-17) come to town this weekend currently tied with our Reds (17-17) and the Padres for first losers in the Wild Card race behind the Cubs and Nationals. Yesterday, Steve previewed the series, including the obligatory head-shake at the 2012 playoffs (it’ll stop hurting eventually, right?).

All stats are 2015 actuals:

Tim Lincecum 2.00 3.12 0.0.25 9.7% 19.4%
Johnny Cueto 2.98 3.67 1.23 4.0% 23.7%

Through six starts this season, Tim Lincecum seems to have returned to his former Cy Young form. Currently working on a 15 inning scoreless streak, Lincecum has had four quality starts this season and only one real hiccup against the Dodgers. A big part of his success this year? His HR/FB rate is down to 3.6% after sitting between 12-15% the last three seasons. The Freak’s GB% is also up 7% from his career average. As his fastball has lost velocity, Lincecum has cut its usage nearly in half, working instead to get contact outs instead of overpowering strikeouts evidenced by his K% dropping nearly 10% from his Cy Young days. Beyond the Box Score wrote a far more comprehensive piece on Lincecum’s resurgence and why it just might be sustainable.

Johnny Cueto is coming off a dominant start against the White Sox that got slightly derailed in the ninth. Through 8 innings, Cueto had given up one run on four hits and walk while striking out seven. However, coming back out for the ninth, he gave up a solo shot to Jose Abreu and two other earned runs as JJ Hoover closed out the game. Somehow, Johnny Cueto has the highest ERA of any Reds’ starter not named Jason Marquis, but Cueto also leads the National League in innings pitched and WHIP so there’s really no reason for concern.

Skip Schumaker gets the start in place of the day-to-day Brandon Phillips in the Reds’ lineup:

1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Zack Cozart (R) SS
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
5. Marlon Byrd (R) LF
6. Jay Bruce (L) RF
7. Brayan Pena (S) C
8. Skip Schumaker (L) 2B
9. Johnny Cueto (R) P

The Giants’ lineup:

1. Gregor Blanco (L) LF
2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
3. Angel Pagan (S) CF
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
6. Justin Maxwell (R) RF
7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
8. Casey McGehee (R) 3B
9. Tim Lincecum (L) P

With the addition of Ryan Mattheus, the Reds will have to make a move sending someone to AAA. Prior to Rasiel Iglesias’ spectacular start last night, it was assumed that he would be the one going down the ladder. Now, it seems that Iglesias will be staying in the bullpen for the time being and someone else will be moved to make room for Mattheus.

Update: Pedro Villareal has been optioned to AAA to make room for Ryan Mattheus as per C. Trent Rosecrans.
Further, Lorenzen will be skipped in the rotation next time through due to an abundance of offdays per Bryan Price. It seems that the Reds will go with some sort of a make-shift six man rotation where Iglesias and Lorenzen will both take turns in the bullpen to keep innings down. Presumably, DeSclafani will also take a turn in the bullpen as the third rookie in the rotation, and Marquis may take a turn as the least effective.

According to John Fay, Brandon Phillips is off today as a precaution and should be back in the lineup on Friday.


Tomorrow is Star Wars Night at Great American Ballpark complete with a Star Wars themed firework show and a Reds/Star Wars poster given to the first 20,000 fans. The promotional video for the night is actually quite good though I feel like the aesthetic of Reds players having red lightsabers is far outweighed by the connotation of evil that red lightsabers carry. But maybe I’m thinking into it too much.

In other news, Ken Rosenthal wrote at length yesterday about how the Reds and Brewers would be smart to sit back and retool for the future. While I doubt anyone here at Redleg Nation would disagree with Mr. Rosenthal, the second Wild Card and early success of the Reds’ young pitchers have instilled a certain degree of optimism in Reds’ fans of late.

So, if you’re the Brewers and Reds, do you make yet another futile attempt at trying to compete as you fall further behind your division rivals? Or, do you acknowledge the uncomfortable reality of your position, and embark upon the long road to recovery?

Rosenthal’s gripe centers directly on Bob Castellini and his drive to win despite the odds, but the fate of the organization is still in his hands. So what do we do besides sit back, mutter to ourselves, and wait.

This series is a big one for the Reds, but the more interesting storyline might just be whatever roster moves are made over the weekend. With Devin Mesoraco only 50% if that and Zack Cozart and Brandon Phillips banged up, we might see someone go on the DL to make room for Ryan Mattheus. Or maybe the Reds will carry 13 pitchers and work with a three man bench, it’s not like they don’t do that already.

280 Responses

  1. seat101

    Does anyone think that the Reds will consider a trade until after the ASB?

    • jdx19

      Consensus around here seems to be post-ASB is the only likely avenue for the Reds.

  2. CTRedsFan

    With numbers like those why would Marquis spot in the rotation be in question?

  3. jdx19

    A few years back I remember a Votto interview where he said Lincecum was the toughest righty for him to pick up because of this arm angle or something.

  4. mwvohio

    Anyone recommend the Giants announcers on the tv side or should I stick with Thom and the boys?

    • vegastypo

      I think their TV guys are Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow. I think they’re pretty good.

  5. reaganspad

    you know that Darth Vader takes Darth Mull in a fight of Champions.

    But I have to say that Todd looks like he could take Darth Vader.

    And Vader probably cannot hit major league heat

  6. vegastypo

    The Reds have three off days in an eight-day span next week, so the Reds are going to a four-man rotation and skipping Iglesias and Lorenzen in the interim to save them some innings pitched. Then it’s the rotation/bullpen shuffle.

  7. msanmoore

    OK, so a no-hitter is off the table.

  8. hof13

    Not how I envisioned it but — there is the DP. Glad Reds aren’t the only ones that TOOTBLAN

  9. AARON

    looks totally different with the short hair… almost like he’s 15

  10. msanmoore

    I’m guessing “softly” and to Posey means less than 100mph, right?

  11. earmbrister

    Cozart stinging the ball, with nothing to show for it again

  12. Eric the Red

    See? Billy fake-bunted instead of focusing on hitting, and watched an 85 MPH fastball in the center of the plate go by for strike 1. Forget that play, Billy. Just hit the ball.

  13. earmbrister

    Tim Lincecum never has defeated the Reds in six career starts against them. His personal record in those games is 0-4 with a 9.79 ERA. They’re the only NL club he hasn’t beaten.

  14. earmbrister

    Cmon Jay. Do some damage here.

  15. User1022

    Another warning track hit for Jay Bruce.

    He sure is hiting that ball hard and far…. Just not hard and far enough.

  16. doublenohitter

    Jay Bruce is a shell of the hitter he once was. He should be in his prime and he is already a has-been.

      • jdx19

        Yeah, no kidding. I’m not always a positive guy, but poisoning the game thread in the 1st inning with another Jay Bruce debate is questionable.

      • User1022

        I don’t see what wrong with discussing Bruce. Bruce plays for the Reds. This is a site to discuss the Reds and their players. The way he’s playing right now is worthy of discussion, since Byrd is no longer the whipping boy.

    • User1022

      Wouldn’t go that far, but he better turn it around soon or this is going to be another lost season for him.

      If the end of the season comes and Bruce has less than 20 HR, then I will be deeply worried about him.

  17. Vanessa Galagnara

    Looks like plenty of Reds are hitting the ball hard but nothing to show for it.

    • User1022

      It’s a predictive stat. We only care about predictions around here, not results.

      …Wait, what?

  18. jdx19

    That’s as easy as they get for Lincecum.

  19. doublenohitter

    I’m not trying to bash Jay Bruce. I love the guy. But he just isn’t the same player he used to be. he used to be the guy I always wanted up in those situations. now, I want anyone else.
    I’m not sure what has happened other than he hasn’t made any adjustments. He has the same long, slow swing and pitchers know how to get him out.

    I hope he can turn it around but it has been over a year and we are seeing the same thing.

  20. User1022

    The good news is, Lincecum is sitting at 43 pitches after 2 innings. Looks like it’s going to come down to the battle of the bullpens!

    That’s…. good news… Right?

  21. jdx19

    Johnny needs to quit balking… I’ve been critical of the umps for this first base move balks, but that one was just a mental mistake.

    • indredsfan

      Seems like the Giants hitters are calling time a lot to throw off his timing and concentration.

      • vegastypo

        i still wonder if that is how Cueto hurt himself in the playoffs, when Pagan stepped out on him at the last minute, and Cueto halted his delivery awkwardly.

  22. Vanessa Galagnara

    Johnny Beisbol is looking down to earth today. Still battling but this is the second start in a row that he didn’t look like top of the league material.

    • jdx19

      Top of the league guys don’t have their A game every single game. The frequency which they have their A stuff is what makes them top of the league.

      Kershaw, for example, is the best pitcher in the league and he’s had a pretty poor start to the season. But over a season that’ll all even out unless he’s hurt or something.

  23. mwvohio

    No idea how good the Giants pen is but we’re gonna see it soon if this keeps up.

  24. jdx19

    Why can’t anyone seem to catch up with the 86-87mph heat?

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      98 mph fastballs are over rated. Just ask Jumbo Diaz. It is all about deception. Clearly the Reds aren’t picking up the ball until it is to late.

  25. BigRedMike

    Lincecum will not last long at this rate

  26. mwvohio

    Baseball is a weird game. I don’t feel like JC is struggling nearly as much as Timmy but the score is 2-0 Giants.

    • jdx19

      The only thing that will keep Timmy from a no-hitter is his pitch count.

      National TV…

  27. mwvohio

    Speaking of weird.. did Cozart think that was a Votto walk? No slide is strange.

    • vegastypo

      Votto thought it was a walk, took a few steps toward first. Maybe Zach saw that.

      • jdx19

        Yeah, that plus the umpire loudly calling “strike 3” maybe fooled Cozart into thinkin he was saying “ball 4!” or something.

        Not sure why Joey thought it was a ball, though. Looked to split the middle of the plate at the knees.

  28. Vanessa Galagnara

    Well we bailed out Lincecum that inning.

  29. User1022

    This has been a very odd game so far.

  30. mwvohio

    You can’t pitch at 86-88 with poor control against Todd. No way, no how.

  31. Vanessa Galagnara

    I believe in luck to a certain degree. But in baseball a player makes their own luck by playing hard and smart. I grow tired of hearing that our players are having bad luck and also that we are not getting calls that we should get. We bring our own results based upon performance.

    • jdx19

      “Luck,” when speaking about baseball stats, is mathematical variance. You can’t create your own mathematical variance.

      Semantics is as the root of the luck vs no-luck debate on this site.

    • mwvohio

      Making your own luck is just poor phrasing. It implies you can generate better randomness, which you can’t. It’s an impossibility. I’m assuming what you mean is doing all the things you can do correctly. Which is fine, nobody would disagree that guys need to do their homework and stay in shape, etc. Managers need to make good decisions, base coaches, you name it. Luck though is ever-present in baseball (and pretty much all sports to one degree or another). The same guy can put in all the effort and work and get two completely different results in similar situations. It’s just luck at that point. It’s why guys like Trout and Votto don’t hit .500 despite being absolute monsters with a bat. It’s why sometimes Chapman gets a 102 mph high fastball turned around for a home run.

      • jdx19

        It’s a losing battle. People on the “there is no luck” side don’t understand what is meant by “luck” when talking about baseball stats. I think the community should change the way they discuss BABIP to not include the word “luck.”

  32. jdx19

    That ball from Todd was 109mph, which matches the hardest hit ball of the season for the Reds.

  33. earmbrister

    Marlon seems to be struggling with Lincecum

    • jdx19

      Haha! This made me laugh!

      He’s lucky he hasn’t hurt himself.

      • mwvohio

        I really thought he got injured the previous stumble where his cleat caught in the dirt. That had to be awkward for him with the way his motion carried his weight.

      • earmbrister

        As soooo many times was I that lucky …

  34. User1022

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one:

    Jay Bruce comes up in an RBI situation….

  35. Vanessa Galagnara

    wiff. Pew wee. I wonder if there is a stat for stink factor.

    • User1022

      .164? You’re quoting his batting average? That’s a meaningless stat.

      He’s been hitting just fine, just doesn’t have the results to show for it.

  36. earmbrister

    Just a matter of time before we scored.

  37. Vanessa Galagnara

    Jay Bruce = rally killer today so sad. But he is hitting the ball and missing it really hard that is the good news!

      • mwvohio

        I almost replied myself but then I realized it’s just trolling at this point. Let ’em be spiteful, Bruce should turn it around by the end of the year.

      • jdx19

        Yeah, you’re right. I’ll do my best to just ignore it. Feeding trolls is detrimental!

      • User1022

        Is it still a pot-shot if it’s true?

        He made an out when we needed a hit. Jay Bruce did kill the rally, temporarily.

      • jdx19

        The pot shot was at the writers of this site and the data-driven Jay Bruce supporters. “He’s missing it really hard.” That’s the pot-shot

        It was a not-so-veiled way of saying “the guys that think Bruce will be fine because he hits the ball hard are morons.” That’s what I meant by pot-shot.

        It’s like you guys don’t even understand the argument. Yes, he’d doing badly. No one has ever said anything contradictory to that.

      • User1022

        Then why do you get so upset when people point out that fact? I thought this was a facts-based site?

      • jdx19

        What fact? That the writers and data-driven posters here are morons?

      • User1022

        Bruce’s body language is that of a man who has lost all confidence in himself.

        I know we can’t quantify things like “body language”. Forgive me for commenting on the human element of the game and not treating these players like the unfeeling android stat-machines they really are.

  38. earmbrister

    I thought catchers were cerebral ,…

  39. jdx19

    What is the one common thread this team has had the last several years? Bad fundamentals.

    • User1022

      I thought that was all Dusty’s fault?

      • jdx19

        It was Dusty’s fault that he had a pooly coached team when he was the guy. Now it is Price’s fault.

        Not sure why you feel the need to constantly roll out these passive-aggressive posts. Your schtick is getting old, dude.

  40. Vanessa Galagnara

    Dear Mr. Pena please sit net to Mr. Bruce on the bench and tell him how to get ‘er done.

    • CBD

      until he makes a mental error and TOOTBLANS

    • jdx19

      Yep, roll slow ground balls out there and cross your fingers and hope they find holes.

      • User1022

        Well, it helps to make contact too.

    • mwvohio

      The irony here is that Pena is simply at the inverse side of the luck factor with tons of balls dropping in or sliding past defenders for him while those same balls are finding gloves for Bruce. Baseball is a crazy game.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        Sorry I don’t buy that Pena is lucky and Bruce is unlucky. You are discrediting ability completely. On paper Bruce should be 100 times a better hitter than Pena but reality shows us that Pena is the one with the focus and know how in the batters box. On the bases….. another story. But then again he is a catcher and most of his running is usually to take off his catching gear.
        I find it very ironic to here luck and bad luck coming mostly from stat loving guys this year.

      • mwvohio

        I don’t understand. I really do not understand how you can believe that based on their careers or even just watching them. Pena hits the ball very softly. Bruce hits the ball quite hard in comparison. Logically harder is better on most balls, grounders in particular. You are saying that Pena’s “focus” somehow lets him hit the ball a foot out of reach of defenders? That if Bruce focused more the grounders and line drives he hits will go a foot more to the left or right and therefor not be turned into outs?

        I’m using the term luck because luck is a term you use. I can change it to variance or something more sensible if you prefer.

      • jdx19

        MWV, until people understand that “luck” in baseball isn’t same kind of luck that lets you win the lottery, there is no way they will understand.

  41. vegastypo

    I see the Reds get a run, get up to answer the phone, just gone a second, and what happened? Anything else we can do to bail out Lincecum?

    • User1022

      Todd doubled, Byrd walked when Lincecum had his drunken moment, Jay Bruce did as he has done many times this season, Pena hit a roller up the middle, scored Todd, Schu hit a line drive that Pena thought was going to drop, it got caught and he got doubled up.

  42. CBD

    Legitimate question with no snark intended…. I don’t understand this lucky/unlucky thing that seems to have crept on this site the last few weeks. Are we to ignore hits and batting average for some other stat that shows what exactly?

    Is what you’re saying then that folks like Pete Rose with the amount of hits he has was lucky? and those that get bounced from the majors for not getting hits are unlucky? There is no skill involved? How does seeing .164 equate to “well he is just unlucky this year?” By logic, does that mean his years hitting high .200s and all the HRs were lucky years?

      • CBD

        So in the explanation… (C) talent level…. luck may be one component but there are 4 paragpahrs about talent

      • jdx19

        The amount of words written about the topics are not proportional to their importance in determining BABIP.

        But yeah, good players have higher BABIPs because they make better contact on a frequent basis. Votto has the 4th highest BABIP in MLB history.

      • CBD

        Didn’t mean it like that. I read the entire article. It’s good stuff. I was just saying it’s not all luck… I was under the impression that some were saying it was just simply all luck ! I get it now. I do find it interesting that they say hitters can control their BABIP more so than pitchers. makes sense

    • mwvohio

      There was an entire post on this earlier this week I believe (maybe was last week?) We’re not saying Bruce has hit well. We’re saying that Bruce’s contact rates and how hard he hits should be producing better results. That if the ball continues to come off his bat at those speeds/angles he will do just fine from this point onward.

      • CBD

        But what about what others have said regarding hip angle and number of strike outs? is that factored in?

      • jdx19

        HIt angle is a new thing that we don’t have data on. It’s important (line drives better than pop ups) but we can’t have a real discussion about it yet.

        Strike Outs are bad. They don’t count in “luck” or “BABIP” discussions.

      • User1022

        Wait a minute…

        You’re saying we can’t discuss something simply because we can’t quantify it, even though you admit it’s a part of the game?

        So we are in the “No Speculating” zone?


      • CBD

        Guys dang calm down.. I’m asking questions about things i truly dont understand .

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      amen! that is my pot shot if they want to look at it that way. Stats are never based on luck or being unlucky. Variations sure….. but stats also show progression and regression if you quantify the numbers to suit your argument.

      I could put together a nice chart and show either 1) regression in a player or 2) show that a player is eventually going to even out over a season.

      Stats can be used to justify any persons argument. Just ask any politician.

    • BigRedMike

      Bruce’s BABIP is 100 points below his career average

      His SO % is concerning

  43. Vanessa Galagnara

    as good as a pinch hitter. Go Johnny!

  44. msanmoore

    Weak swing by Billy … not good.

    • vegastypo

      the one time when I wanted him to bunt. If the Giants force Cueto, Billy would still be on first

      • msanmoore

        Which would have put him on 3rd based on Cozarts hit.

  45. jdx19

    I love watching Cueto hit, to be honest.

    • msanmoore

      Ugly but leaves nothing on the table, does he?

      • jdx19

        I also think its funny how his hair makes his helmet almost come off. Adds a nice comedic effect.

  46. msanmoore

    Awfully wide turn there JC … nice stroke by Zach.

  47. msanmoore

    Didn’t know this was on MLB network until a while ago. Got to see LIncecum looking painful out there with his jerky motion and falling off the mound.

  48. mwvohio

    You know, I think I’m just going to apologize at this point. I’m letting the fact that we’re playing a tight game against the Giants draw me into replying to posts I normally ignore. So my bad, I’ll try to keep my posts back to my usual rah-rah comments and celebrating the good stuff.

    • CBD

      Sorry! Didn’t mean to ruin your night ! Just want o understand the BABIP. thanks for your reply

      • mwvohio

        No, you were fine. Honest questions I don’t mind. It’s the people who only post in order to get a reaction that I should be ignoring and sadly did not.

      • jdx19

        Not your fault. YOu had a legitimate question.

  49. wdwrolen2713

    Just got home, saw Todd Father hit the ball 109 mph on that double. He must have killed that ball! On rotation question, would it hurt either one to just alternate and have Lorenzen pitch first time through and then Iglesias pitch his spot next time, so on. Maybe that’s what they mean by makeshift 6-man rotation and this observation is entirely pointless.

    • jdx19

      Yep. It’s tied for the hardest hit ball of the year on the Reds.

      The other 109er was a Votto single to right-field in Milwaukee.

  50. earmbrister

    How has this guy only given up 1 run?

    • wdwrolen2713

      It’s the Giants, they’re the one team in MLB that the baseball gods adore even more than the Cards. But now it looks like Byrd got a hold of Lincecum.

    • msanmoore

      Nope … Tim has very little control tonight. And it finally caught up with him.

    • mwvohio

      It was mentioned somewhere on the first page but in interviews Votto has said that Timmy is the one guy he really does not see the ball well against.

      • jdx19

        Yeah. that was me. The weird thing is Votto’s numbers against Timmy have been pretty good. LIke .350 if I recall. But he spoke about it at length in the interview, so it must be true!

  51. earmbrister

    I like Byrd coming up with the bases loaded. Ironic much.

    • msanmoore

      Byrd is much better right now than when we started the season.

  52. earmbrister

    Finally, the Reds get some good variance.

  53. msanmoore

    Not a beauty, but it gives us 2 and the lead. Cueto can settle down and win this now.

  54. User1022

    Byrd comes up in a RBI situation, and…..

  55. Vanessa Galagnara

    Byrd! Playing above his stat line. Way to go!!!

  56. wdwrolen2713

    If my last name was Byrd, I don’t know if I could resist having Surfin’ Bird as my walk-up song. I don’t think Byrd does that song, does he?

  57. vegastypo

    Hey, regarding luck, here is a thought. Frazier should have been called out on strikes, I think. Not that I’m complaining about the outcome. But no strikeout, so a HBP, then a dunker. Call it luck or getting a break, but I’ll take it.

  58. Vanessa Galagnara

    Whatever you want to call it, it has become painful to watch Jay’s game. I hope he is “due” and that “bad luck” is about to turn around. If he is due it should be for about 1 solid month of serious run production… Something every Red fan would be excited and cheering for.

  59. User1022

    Bruce’s body language is that of a man who has lost all confidence in himself.

    I know we can’t quantify things like “body language”. Forgive me for commenting on the human element of the game and not treating these players like the unfeeling android stat-machines they really are.

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      LoL! Amen and well said!!!!

  60. wdwrolen2713

    What are odds we see Mattheus tonight? By the way did that ump just get stabbed by Posey’s bat? I knew Buster was up to no good.

  61. CBD

    Set off an unintended firestorm… in any case, we all agree Bruce is a big key to the Reds success. A day or two off to clear his head and try to release some of the frustration he must feel can’t hurt!

  62. Vanessa Galagnara

    If Cueto gets a 1-2-3 inning I am rolling him back out there for the 7th.

  63. Tito

    Taylor Swift is the downfall of Jay Bruce

    • jdx19

      I just Googled “Taylor Swift Jay Bruce” and the 2nd hit is titled:

      Taylor Swift May or May Not Have Asked Jay Z to Brunch.

      THAT is funny stuff.

  64. User1022

    That ump is getting looked at by the Reds’ medical crew.

    His days are numbered.

    • wdwrolen2713

      After the end of this season, he’ll be talking about how horrible our medical crew was and that the Reds ended his career. I’m looking at you Jim Edmonds.

  65. mwvohio

    This brings up an interesting situation. Assuming Cueto is done after this inning.. we need 7/8/9 from the pen. Chapman for 9.. who do you want at 7 and 8? TC and Hoover? Diaz in there? Tough call.

    • jdx19

      I want Hoover in the 7th with Jumbo warming, TC in the 8th.

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      it is a tough one. If Cueto is done I go with Hoover for the 7th. Cingrani for the 8th and Chappy for the 9th.

    • vegastypo

      Cingrani and Chapman. They should be able to get 6 outs between them. … Not a lot of confidence the others at GABP in a one-run game.

    • User1022

      Yep, they got him all wrapped up.

      They really should do the smart thing and DL him now, though.

  66. Vanessa Galagnara

    Hopefully Cueto has one more solid inning to go!

  67. jdx19

    Was just looking at Skip’s page. For his career, he’s got 0.8 WAR. The ZiPS projections have him at -0.8 WAR for the remainder of the season. If that hits, Skip will be a 0.0 WAR player who has made about $20M in his career.

  68. BigRedMike

    Grit’s WAR over the last 3 seasons is around -3

    I guess he can play multi positions poorly

    • jdx19

      Hilarious that two posts about Skip’s WAR are posted simultaneously.

      • wdwrolen2713

        Skip must know you’re talking about him, he just muffed a play. What a drop off in defense for DatDude to Skippy McGritterson

      • BigRedMike

        Everytime I see Grit bat, I look at his Fangraphs page to get a good laugh at how truly awful he is

  69. RedsFanEd (@RedsFanEd)

    Time to shuffle the batting order. Hamilton hits 7th and Bruce hits 8th. Just based off of stats to date. Truthfully, they both need to go to AAA and make some swing adjustments. If this season hinges upon Bruce then it’s time to let another player step in and try it. I guarantee he wouldn’t strike out near as much.

  70. BigRedMike

    Reds are certainly not concerned about the amount of pitches Cueto will throw this season

    • User1022

      Why should they be? Half of all pitches he throws will be for another team.

      • jdx19

        Heeeey! We agree on something. How ’bout that!

      • jdx19

        This is the beginning of a beeeyootiful friendship. 😉

    • jdx19

      They’re going to get as much as they can from that arm before the ASB. Then trade him. That’s my guess.

      • Vanessa Galagnara

        Yup! I agree here with you on that one too. I would probably go one step further and pitch him every 4th day as well.

    • wdwrolen2713

      We’re just using every last drop of him as this is his last season with us. Reds getting all the innings they can get out of their prized stud.

    • jdx19

      It’s like the Giants have the Mariana Bench…

    • wdwrolen2713

      HEY! Brennan Boesch is a great hitter and he’s on the bench! Now when’s the last time he played? Hmh.

  71. wdwrolen2713

    I feel like THOM! is going to jump out the window one game, because every time he gets the least bit excited it sounds as if he’s jumping completely out of his seat.

  72. Vanessa Galagnara

    do the high pitch counts on Cueto the past 2 games indicate the intentions of the Reds to trade him soon? I have been thinking this for the past two weeks and finally got the nerve up to say it openly.

  73. wdwrolen2713

    Jason Marquis is pitching tomorrow? That’s great, their best pitcher against … whatever Marquis qualifies as.

    • wdwrolen2713

      True, though it’s pretty amazing to think Lincecum has successfully gone from ace to junk in a pretty short time. I guess their fans can still call him the freak, it just won’t a compliment anymore.

  74. RedsFanEd (@RedsFanEd)

    Hamilton needs to choke up another 2 inches and really concentrate on contact. And just like that another fly ball. Completely unacceptable. Needs a trip to AAA to work this out.

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      that bus to Louisville with Hamilton on it shouldn’t be empty though. Should be a few more players on there with him.

      • jessecuster44

        Who’s left on the roster, and who replaces those on the bus? That’s the sound of service time beginning… You think the Reds want to do that?

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      Does that mean that Bruce should also pitch?

  75. vegastypo

    A play as close as that one? How could that be conclusive enough to overturn?

  76. rmhowell

    If I was Johnny Cueto I wouldn’t want to stick around. This bullpen is stealing wins from him, maybe someone else can give him the run support he needs.

  77. CBD

    21 8th inning runs given up by the Reds. Good for 3rd in the NL. Yikes. Cards have given up 7 .

    • User1022

      Reminds me of the team from 10 years ago.

      We need to trade Bruce and Cozart for a modern day version of Gary Majewski and Bill Bray. (And I guess Royce Clayton and… Who else was in that deal?)

  78. huskycardinal

    Not giving excuses for Cingrani but Byrd should have played the ball on the bounce. A double is less devestating than a single. Who knows maybe it only turns into a single.

  79. Vanessa Galagnara

    We aren’t trailing at least.

  80. msanmoore

    Ladies and Gents … Marlon Byrd!

  81. jdx19

    Marlon being decent was one of the things needed for this Reds team to succeed… looks like we’re on our way to that one!

    • msanmoore

      Yep! Count me among those very pleased to see this happen.

  82. Vanessa Galagnara

    That guy is really something the past few weeks. Maybe 38 is the new 28.

  83. User1022

    I notice there aren’t many people still mocking Byrd.

  84. jas428

    Redemption after the poor defensive play, Impressive.

  85. Vanessa Galagnara

    Pena continues to hit em where they ain’t.

  86. msanmoore

    OK, which Aroldis Chapman do we see tonight folks?

  87. earmbrister

    Never hear much smack about Negron. And his season rolls on.

      • earmbrister

        Ahhh. We all had high expectations for Schumaker, right?

      • jdx19

        Skip’s on a $3M, 2-yr deal. Kris makes the league minimum. Guys that fill benches shouldn’t make as much money as Skip does. He’s terrible and there are LITERALLY hundreds of guys in AAA on any team that the Reds have access to.

        I think that is why Skip gets it and Kris does not. 🙂

    • Vanessa Galagnara

      He is one of those guys that should be on the bus with Hamilton.

    • Steelerfan

      Sadly, it feels like we have more to worry about than utility infield. Still, would not Suarez get a shot, or Dejusus if they could make the 40 man roster move.

  88. Steelerfan

    The Gamecast strike zone makes it look like it is opposite day…

    • seat101

      Good game guys. Good teams (or should I say teams with good variance?) win the strange ones.

  89. Vanessa Galagnara

    I’ll take it. a win is a win.

  90. Vanessa Galagnara

    I will believe we are clicking when we roll off a 10 game winning streak.

  91. earmbrister

    Reds win vs the Giants. The Pirates lose again vs the Phils. Ouch.