The Reds and Pirates return to the playing field tonight after last night’s remarkable Reds victory. Everything (minus the injuries) seems to be breaking the Reds way right now so let’s hope it does again tonight as well.

Mike Leake takes to the mound looking to bump his record to over the .500 mark heading into the all-star break. Price makes only a few changes to tonight’s lineup. Discuss the game here Reds fans!

1. Hamilton CF
2. Santiago 2B
3. Frazier 3B
4. Bruce RF
5. Mesoraco C
6. Ludwick LF
7. Pena 1B
8. Cozart SS
9. Leake P

A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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  1. Swung at ball 4 there. Got a hit…..I like sending him.

  2. Yes!!! Another amazing comeback!!!

  3. 20% less likely to score in this situation than if we have bases loaded with no outs.

    That’s the risk the 3rd base coach took. 87.7% to 67.9%.

  4. Ludwick can pop one out of the infield… Right?

  5. lud is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay late on those

  6. C’mon get some grass

  7. Luddy isn’t close on those heaters

  8. Luddy can’t catch up to 98…

  9. Terrible at bat

  10. Bad bad bad bad bad bad bad

  11. I cannot stand Ryan Ludwick.

  12. At least the fans in the stadium were cooled down a little bit by the breeze that AB created.

  13. yeah yeah wait for your pitch lol

  14. Pretty atrocious inning, there. It’s pretty hard NOT to score, but Mr. Third Base Coach figured out how.


  15. Too many missed opportunities. this won’t end well

  16. Wow… I am speechless.

  17. Shallow ball hit in Right Field and we send Santiago? STUPID !!!!!!

    You take the bat right out of the hands of mesoraco … dumb dumb dumb !!!!!!!!! So mad right now.

    • Agreed, if the 3B coach was looking he fielded the ball cleanly and with momentum going towards the plate… there was maybe 33% of scoring…but why take that chance with the best hitter coming up in a 0 out situation? I hate our 3B coaches for this past decade, they have no idea wtf they are doing.

      • It would have to be 80%+ to send him in that situation for me. Bases loaded with no outs and Mesoraco up with be much greater chance of scoring than bases loaded, 1 out and Ludwick up.

        I know many on here don’t believe in clutch situations because they aren’t repeatable…but Ludwick has been repeatedly bad in recent memory in clutch, RISP situations.

  18. that was unwatchable

  19. Wow… bottom of the 9th in a tie game. Reds have a situation where they could have bases loaded, 0 outs, and a .600 Slugger at bat… and they find a way to mess it up. Do they even deserve to win tonight anymore?

  20. I agree Ludwick looked old and slow there. Didn’t even come close to fouling a pitch off.

  21. Of course we have the worst 3rd base coach in baseball. Bryan Price hired him.

    • Funny thing is, he’s actually an improvement over they guy who was Mark Berry’s replacement last year… granted, that’s like saying you cleared a high jump bar that was already on the ground.. but still.

    • Where’s somebody, anybody, even a fan in the stands to go to the mound to remind Hoover to make McCutchen chase at any pitch he wants to swing at. In other words an unintentional looking intentional walk.

  22. Rats….can’t believe they didn’t score…wow… and McCutchen is due up again….

  23. Perfect time to buy a Redleg Nation t-shirt and get a shout out.

  24. I strongly doubt we will win now. I am an optimist, but we just waisted the heart of the order.

  25. the biggest break of all is they are pinch hitting for that pitcher, he looked fantastic after that base hit.

  26. Home Run Hoover in his 2nd inning of work. This won’t last long.

  27. 3rd base coach should be fired. He has screwed up way too often this year. You just can’t take that chance with nobody out. The only way you send Santiago is if there’s not going to be a play at the plate.

  28. I know its crazy but I intentionally walk here.

    • No, that’s not crazy.

      That’s what any person with a brain does against an MVP. But, apparently Price doesn’t have the aforementioned brain. At least not tonight.

      ANd this is not a knee-jerk. You WALK MCCUTCHEN EVERY TIME IN THAT SITUATION. A grade schooler can make that call.

  29. Hoov’s look fantastic so far

  30. Of course they pitch to him…

  31. Homerun Hoover strikes again

  32. No excuse.


    Hurdle walked Mesoraco, and McCutchen makes Mesoraco look like Zack Cozart.

  33. can we stop pitching to that guy?

  34. Are they watching the same game as us? I wonder sometimes.

  35. spoke too soon

  36. Patrick Jeter from Colorado Springs just bought a shirt.

    (can’t believe we pitched to McCutchen with two outs)

  37. Nothing fat, of course. Oh no, how stupid. Twice.

  38. why why why pitch to that dude there ????

  39. As good as this team has been there have been no less than 10 games that should have been won this year if the managers play the odds instead of acting like morons.

  40. It’s not surprising that Hoover gets to 30+ pitches in an outing and gives up homers. Not many relief pitchers are good at 30+ pitches… it’s just a shame they keep sending him out there to be the final arm.

  41. As I said, game over.

  42. This is a coaching loss tonight if the Reds cannot come back here in bottom 11.

    No way should 3B coach send Santiago.

    No way should you pitch to Cutch with 2 outs in the inning and no one on.

  43. How does Price let Hoover pitch to McCutcheon in that situation?

  44. The funny part is, the coaching is still smarter than last year. Baby steps…

  45. And my hatred for mccutcheon grows

    • I dont hate him. The dude is a baller.

      It is our own managers fault for letting it happen…….TWICE !!!!!

  46. Bryan Price has to take the heat for that homer. You have to walk McCutcheon there. Bases loaded, two outs. Put him on first and make the guys after him beat you.

    Shame because the Reds deserve to win tonight, but their coaches blew it big time.

  47. so hoover falls to 1-7………….at least his era is still under 5……if those things mattered

    • Hardly Hoover’s fault he’s constantly the last pitcher to be used in extra innings, so it’s a race to see if the Reds can score first, or if his arm will tire and give up a run first.

  48. Second inning Hoover strikes again. Disaster.

  49. Hoover is just bad… period… especially 2nd inning of work…

  50. Never dreamed they would pitch to him…again…. ugh

  51. Negron had a great spring training.

  52. Mccutchen robbed a double from Cozart. Lots of colorful words to be said right now

  53. Well, at least he put the ball in play, unlike Lutz and Soto.

    Goodnight, RLN. Poor management strikes again. Not the 1st, won’t be the last. But 1.5 games out of 1st ain’t too shabby, either. I’ll take it, as much as this loss stings.

  54. no sour grapes here, I am convinced McCutchen is on drugs… he’s talking to himself in CF, the dreads, his whole demeanor…he is on something…not sure what… PCP maybe…lol.

  55. Should have won it in the 10th…. inexcusable!

  56. no worries we still take 2 of 3 after tomorrows win

  57. Every time they show that replay of Santiago getting thrown out, I just want to punch Smith over and over.

  58. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory there. Poor managerial decisions and a LF that is way past his prime.

  59. I just want to point out this is totally not on Hoover. It’s on two different coaching decisions. Sending Santiago was #1, and not walking McCutchen was #2. Either of those happen and the Reds either win, or are still playing.

    • Oh I don’t blame Hoover. Game should have been over in the 10th.

    • Agree. This loss is squarely on the coaches’ shoulders.

      • Not the players, at all? That seems a little harsh and misguided.

        • Steve. of course players always have accountability, but tonight’s situation is on coaches/manager.

          2 really bad mistakes… 2nd one should have never occurred…had 3rd base coach did not send the runner to home. no outs , bases loaded, that would be 100% of the calls in MLB in that situation… w/ an all star coming to bat w/ no body out..

          that should have ended the game…

          • Just because the manager and base coach make mistakes (and I don’t agree it was a mistake to send Santiago. It took a perfect play to get him) that doesn’t mean the loss is on them. If any number of players had done what they were supposed to – Mike Leake not making a throwing error, for example – then the game never even gets to that point. It’s possible to say the manager made a decision you didn’t agree with without putting the entire blame for the loss on his shoulders. Hoover and Broxton each made bad pitches.

        • i differ w/ you. you have manager and coaches for a reason. what they did tonight should be pointed out and they need to understand their actions did not help the cause.

          w/ any sports, players play the game. no kidding Steve… everyone knows that here or anywhere, and every human on earth make mistakes, but key in life is learning from it.

          I hope they – coach and manager learn from it. they made bad calls. problem is i have seen too much of those errors on 3rd base since last year, and Price has made more than enough bad calls in managing situations. I don’t buy “it’s his first year” argument. it’s major league baseball.

          you can keep your opinion.. i have mine.

        • Yes, it was a good throw, but you just can’t take that chance in that situation. As a coach, you have to know when to be conservative and when to go for it. With nobody out and your cleanup hitter (who happens to destroy lefties) up next, you just can’t send him unless it’s almost a guaranteed score. That was far from it.

  60. Man you’ll are some fair weather fans.

  61. Do we have a Coaching version of Milton? Maybe a TCS instead of TOS?

  62. Price has had his good and bad moments.. tonight was bad.

    2 coaching mistakes.

    3rd base coach. in that situation, you have to take bases loaded no outs w/ Mes coming to bat. 100% of the time…. no matter what. isn’t that why he gets paid for?

    manager. you have to signal to Hoover to walk the MVP… you have to.

    terrible coaching/managing tonight… it’s a game we gave away.

    • Totally agree on not sending Santiago, I believe you challenge Cutch, tip your cap, clutch

  63. McCutchen should not have seen anything close to strike in either AB.

  64. I cannot stand to see games like this one tonight just given away. Absolutely bone head pitching tonight challenging the reigning MVP. The one player you absolutely do not let beat you. STUPID.

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  66. He is a great pitching coach though, and the logic is they might have lost him to someone else willing to give him a manager role… I think we can win with Price… I don’t know why he didn’t walk McCutcheon there, maybe he is a numbers guy and stubbornly stuck with not putting tying run on base,, but if you look at McCutcheon you see he is easily the confident force on that team, take the friggin bat out of his hands ignore the numbers, this is human psychology we are talking about. Same with the 3B coach..we had all the momentum, why force a play… they were on the ropes giving the game away..jsut one more AB with our best guy at the plate and all the pressure on the other team. JESUS, its painful to watch this from afar, we all know better…but I guess the heat of the moment and the crowd noise and all that, these guys just don’t think clearly under pressure.

    • It is a marathon, not a sprint. It stings, we should have won, but the Pirates should have won last night. It’s the game.

      • u do realize that even after 162 games, it comes down to 1-2 games (or it could..)…

        you look back and it’s these type of games (and we have had several of them this year) that makes a difference of winning the division or not… or getting a 2nd WC spot or not…

        after last year, we really need to win the division versus 1 game playoff…

        when I watch managers like Bochy or even Pirates’ manager, I just think they do a great job… i like both of them. I haven’t seen a decent Reds manager in ages… when i was a boy, I liked a man named Sparky… if anyone remembers..

  67. Looking forward to JC on the hill tomorrow…. 2 out of 3

  68. Why stop? If he and his staff made correct decisions the team would probably be 1/2 games out of first.

    The criticism on Price in the 10th/11th inning tonight is very fair. I don’t agree with those saying he is in over his head, but not walking Cutch there is absolutely worth the criticism he is getting.

    • Are we really criticiszaing the manager for not intentionally walking a batter unintentionally, HR derby guys cannot hit that many Hr’s with a terrible pitcher trying to get him to hit a HR

      • I’m way more upset at Smith than Price. I would’ve walked Cutch in the 11th, but you can certainly defend the decision to pitch to him.

        The decision to send Santiago, on the other hand, is indefensible. It was a terrible call, n way around it.

  69. us being 1 1/2 game out first IS NOT because PRICE is great or even good manager. it’s combination of Milwaukee’s bad losing streak and us getting 4 wins against Cubs.

    if Brews just go 500 market last 10 games, we still be out 4-5 games…

    yes Price has had bad injuries, but also, he has cost this team several wins by mismanaging. of course I don’t miss Dusty, so I do not call for Price’s firing.. just pointing out that I think Price has made many mistakes this year… keep saying he’s in his 1st year doesn’t cut it. It’s MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL…

    • All managers make mistakes. Sit back, relax and stop overreacting.

      • it’s not over reacting… and after spending 4 hours of my life i don’t get back, i have a right to blow steam… it goes away after a while…

        haven’t you learned basic mental psychology 101… it’s better to let it come out then keeping it boiled inside….

        sitting in front of computer and writing is the most harmless way i can think of..

        so don’t tell me sit back relax BS… you do what you want. this is how i cope w/ it for an hour after a loss like this.

  70. Sorry, my reply was to JCREDLEGS, the fan who bails for the movies when the Reds get down 4.

  71. Not counting the pitcher, this loss is like having seven Cozarts and one Babe Ruth to face, and losing the game because you chose to pitch to Babe Ruth instead of walking the Babe in order to face Cozart. No disrepect to Cozart, and I’m not saying McCutchen is the equal to the Babe, but I think you get the point.

  72. Their (and national league) MVP has 20 HRs against Reds in his career… how about some scouting… some inner circle advising Price that w/ 2 outs no body on, walk the guy or at least throw 4 out of the strike pitches. did you see what Hoover threw … right down the middle.

    Is Hoover short on memory?

    We don’t call Hoover .. Mr Home Run Hoover for nothing… not to mention McCutchen kills Reds pitching normally… the man has 20 homers in his career against Reds… 20…

  73. A lot of the comments coming minutes after a frustrating loss is simply venting after a frustrating loss. I do not think that makes fans venting that frustration “fair weather fans” I think it shows how much Reds fans care about the team. Tomorrows a new day, we’ll get em tomorrow. Go Reds!

    • absolutely! not just Reds fans.. but most ardent fans of sports. nothing wrong w/ it. it blows over naturally after night sleep. now, if people don’t get over it after night’s sleep, then you got a problem. it’s just a game.

      still, i can’t believe our 3rd base coaches over the past 2 years do what they do… where do we find these coaches… so called coaches… last year was bad too… Berry i think

      going to bed

  74. Hoover is 1-7 this year… gives up HR’s left and right along w/ some strikes… is he going to try to hit double digit in losses? is it in his contract that if he hits double digit, he makes more money? (maybe the contract forgot to say he makes more money with double digit WINS…)

    man, Hoover makes me nervous every time… along with Ondrusek…. LeCure has not been the same this year ….Parra too… 4 of these guys i have no confidence in…

    it’s amazing we are still in the chase for playoff w/ these guys blowing up every 2 games.

    good night

  75. In close games like this, and playoff games like this, the Reds have to win games like this. I love the comeback they made against the Cubs, and now twice with the Pirates, but they should have won it in the bottom of the 10th. I didn’t see the play at the plate, but if its hit to shallow Right Field, the third base coach should have held the runner. Especially, with 0 outs and Mes coming up to bat. I have seen to many times with the Reds and other major league teams, with less than 2 outs, and runners on third, and ball hit sharply to either 3rd base or 2nd base, and the runner at 3rd takes off for home, and is thrown out easily at the plate. But…..Ludwick has got to get a fly ball and get the runner home. That is the one that is the most upsetting. Its the little things that happen in close games, and many times the Reds make mistakes on these little things.

  76. 20 guys thrown out at the plate already this year. Only three teams had that many all of last year in the NL.

  77. Having a 100 million dollar plus automobile where the left turn signal doesn’t work is unacceptable. The Reds have an equivalent to the non functioning left turn signal in their 3rd base coach. In my opinion that is unacceptable.

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