This road trip started out so great, but the last two losses in San Diego have put a damper on how it will conclude. The Reds can still salvage a very good trip out west with a win tonight, just too bad it won’t be as good as it could have been had the Reds managed to take care of business against the lowly Padres.

If the Padres want to sweep the Reds today, they’ll have to do it against Johnny Cueto. You may have beaten the Reds in the first two games, Padres, but good luck against Mr. Cueto today!

Lineup:
1. Hamilton CF
2. Santiago 3B
3. Frazier 1B
4. Phillips 2B
5. Bruce RF
6. Heisey LF
7. Pena C
8. Cozart SS
9. Cueto P

A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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  1. My eyes!!! The lineup…. It blinded me!!!!

  2. Seriously, how hard is it to find a replacement-level backup who can play 1B and a corner OF position? Walt seems to collect relief pitchers like crazy ladies collect cats, but we can’t find someone to hit .250 that Price can plug in once every 4 or 5 days?

  3. Santiago in the 2-slot. That’s not something you want to see very often.

  4. Did Mesoraco go on the DL and I missed it?

  5. A line of .212/.293/.231, 24.6% K-rate, 0 steals scream #2 hitter. What am I missing? Can’t hit, can’t make regular contact, and doesn’t steal; what does Skipper Price know that we don’t? That being being said, hope he goes 2 for 3 with a walk. Go Ramon go! If I’m Heisey, I have to wonder what my future holds.

    • I’m at a loss. I criticised Prices’s lineups earlier in the season and decided to back off, but I don’t get this. Anybody know Santiago’s numbers against Ross?

    • “A line of .212/.293/.231, 24.6% K-rate, 0 steals scream #2 hitter.”
      I don’t think it screams anything intelligible. It just screams.

  6. Votto getting a rest is good. A day off today, the off-day tomorrow, and they don’t play until Friday night. That is 2 1/2 days off for him, almost 3, and maybe he’s ready for the Brewers. Going to need his bat.

  7. Didn’t we already fire this guy?

  8. The worst lineup one could possibly throw out there, unless Cozart were leading off.
    Especially since the Reds haven’t hit a lick in this series.
    Watch Santiago go 4-4 just to spite us.

    • Just to make clear the gravity of this lineup.. Cozart hitting second would be an improvement. Let’s just all take that in for a few moments shall we?

  9. Why does price have to put Santiago 2nd?!?! Why can’t he just put him 8th and shift every body else up one spot? That would make this lineup just a little bit better, and would make a whole lot more sense

  10. I know Mesoraco may not be the most nimble guy on the team, but why can’t he be tried at 1B? I mean they put Pena there… if they can’t have Votto in there, wouldn’t it make sense to at least still have Mesoraco in there to keep the pitchers on their toes?

  11. Homer Bailey is not getting paid 100 million dollars so Santiago can hit second. Come on Price!

  12. What a lineup. Makes for one hell of a bench for today. Votto, Mesoraco, Ludwick and Schumaker.
    The thing that has confounded me this series with SD is that the Reds’ sluggers have warning track power, and SD’s sluggers crushed the ball last night.

  13. Milwaukee and toronto tied at 4-4 in top of the 9th inning.

  14. So I pull up Reds.com to check out the lineup.. and it’s a brutal sight. The Reds are going to get swept by the Padres, aren’t they? Their best slugger is on the bench, their best hitter is playing out of position, their worst hitter is batting 2nd. Cueto’s personal catcher is no longer hitting well (.149/.200/.213 in June).

    Of course just to spite my expectations, they’ll probably light up the Padres for 6 or 8… but dang it doesn’t look likely right now.

    • Pretty much exactly how I felt looking at it. This is going to be one of those lineups that puts up 6+ runs and all the results-oriented people and the guys who just don’t know what else to say (myself probably included) will go “Price is a genius!”

      I’m half convinced that these lineups are to motivate Cueto and this is some sort of thing that was handed down to Price from Dusty.

      • At this point, that makes as much sense as any other theory. No other pitcher gets this many B Lineups.

  15. Sickening. If you must play Santiago, so be it. Why does he have to bat second? Why?!? Should just start Ondrusek and/or Hoover and be done with it.

  16. Jaws is finishing up on AMC right now. I felt like Quint, being eaten alive when I read Price’s lineup.

    • Now everytime I hear Santiago’s name, I’m going to hear that theme. Doh, there it is again……thanks.

  17. Toronto just beat the Brewers.

  18. Edwin Encarnacion hits walk-off 3 run HR to beat Milwaukee.
    C’mon Cueto and reds, another day to gai a full game on Brewers lays straight in front of you.

  19. This Tyson Ross guy is exactly like I picture Cingrani if he had a breaking pitch that worked.

  20. Isn’t this exactly the way the game started last night?

  21. 2 hits already for the Padres, buckle down Cueto and get it done

  22. This does not bode well.

  23. Reds got Seth Smith a nice extension so there is that

  24. BRUUUUCEE!! Huge play there.

  25. Cueto channeling his inner Mike Leake

  26. ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

  27. Sweet mercy. What is our curse versus the Padres this year? They have just had our number.

  28. Already down by 3. This is gonna be an ugly game, I can’t watch

  29. Cueto is not happy out there.

  30. gotta love when the Pads announcers are laughing at you

  31. Cueto can’t even get the worst hitting team in baseball out.

  32. Well … this one is as good as over.

    A welcomed day off tomorrow for sure. What a disaster this series turned into.

  33. a bunch of sub.200 hitters laying the wood two us in back to back games.

  34. How did the guy score from first on a single?

    • Running on the play. Ball bounced away from Hamilton (who was making a diving catch) weak, off target throw home.

  35. BHam busy laying there looking forlorn

  36. Brewers go 7-3 and the Reds pick up 1 game. Brewers lose 3 in a row and the Reds pick up 0 games.

  37. boys look done already. Guess its fair since Price quit on this game with this lineup.

  38. This is what I thought the west coast wing would look like, so I’ll take 4-3.

  39. Really? Gonna get swept by the Padres?

  40. All the work the Reds did in beating the Giants in 4 games, right down the toilet.

  41. Unless the Pirates pretend they’re the Reds against an awful team (Diamondbacks), then it looks like the Reds are back in 4th place in the division.

  42. OK, i get the “any given day” thing when it comes to professionals, I really do……BUT…..this Padre club has been HISTORICALLY bad. Taking 1 out of 3 would be a downer. C’mon.

  43. at least one Ohio team has looked sharp last 2 games

  44. C’mon gentlemen, it’s not like it’s 8-0 or anything.

  45. gonna make Ross look like Waino

  46. How is it the Padres turn into the ’76 Redlegs against us but can’t even keep their own drool in their mouth against the rest of the league?

  47. When do we start worrying about being no-hit?

  48. It looks as if the Reds have an early flight back home.

  49. On the positive note: Today the Reds upgraded their bench. And you thought they were doing anytyhing……

  50. who did they release ?

  51. Cy Young pitching for the Padres tonight

    • Didn’t realize someone could change teams so often in one year. Seems like he’s pitching against the Reds an awful lot.. and always under pseudonyms.

  52. oh never mind i got it

  53. nice of the Pads there

  54. Whew! Thank you Padres bench because if Todd goes down, our season goes with him.

  55. If we lose today, is it time for the fire-sale again? Perhaps we should see where this team is at the deadline and decide right around there if they should buy, sell, or only make a few minor moves?

    As for today’s game, Ross is really dealing. Yes some of it is the Reds offense is having a tough time of it in general, but Ross is filthy today. No-hit kind of stuff and it’s showing.

    • Just so you know, I’m kidding about the fire-sale.

      • It is hard to have a “sale” when what your selling (other than starting pitching and 4 position players (Bruce, Brazier, Mes, and Billy) are considered damaged goods.

        • I think Broxton, Chapman, and Leake could all have some value. Of course I wouldn’t mind keeping Leake but what could the Reds get in return as far as prospects? As far as position players and selling, I don’t see there being much interest in anyone aside from the four guys you mention above. Those are 4 guys I’d rather not move.

  56. this blows.. sweep Giants and then get swept by Padres… did Reds just take Padres for granted? terrible. it’s not like we are in 1st place by 10 games. even after Giants, we were 6 1/2 out… long way to go if we just took Padres for granted. I don’t know that, but we are playing like it.. (and Padres’ pitching is really good too).

  57. today’s lineup is perfect for a no hitter… Santiago, Pena, Cozart, Cueto…. automatic outs right there…. what a terrible time to lose ground… and due to San Diego

  58. No no-no today!

  59. that’s what happens when you walk a 100 hiter

  60. Reds have not come back from a 3 run deficit all year.

  61. Tired of this impotent offense. Time for Pena and Heisey to earn their keep and get a rally started.

  62. It has been reported that the Reds have traded Jair Jurrjens to Colorado for 1B Harold Riggins. Riggins had 192 K’s in 118 games at A+ ball in 2013 and 79 K’s in 58 games at AA this year. He’ll fit right in with the Reds hitters.

    • Tell me that this guy is at least young.

      • He’s 24 I believe I read. I really don’t understand why the Reds even have Soto and then trade for this guy? Maybe Soto gets a promotion and Riggins gets promoted to triple a. Every time I see his name I’m gonna be reminded of Tim Riggins from Friday Night Lights.

      • He had 192 Ks in A+ last year…. 118 games/413 AB, 192 Ks. So in a full MLB season of 600-ish AB, that’d be 279 Ks. Of course that’s not accounting for the fact he’d probably be worse against major league pitching than A+ pitching, when A+ CALL League is considered a hitter friendly one.

      • “..for a 24-year-old Double-A first baseman named Harold Riggins who isn’t considered a prospect.”

        Not even isn’t considered a top prospect… just isn’t considered a prospect.

  63. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a MLB player miss a bag going around the bases then be called out on the appeal. Crazy.

  64. Can we put the good players in the game now? This isn’t working.

  65. This is about the worst lineup Price can put together.. of course, we have NO bench, so he has no choice when Votto and Mes aren’t in the game…

    Pena, Heisy as a starter, Santiago, Cueto (not his fault), and mostly Cozart… That’s not going to do it.

    Of course, normally against a bad team, it might be OK but we are about to be swept against SD… after sweeping Giants…

    That’s Jekyl and Hyde at best

  66. 1/2 way in to the year, I think we will have a chance at 2nd wild card, but that’s about it.. thank God for the WC system… at least 1 game playoff, Cueto might get us into the real playoff round…

    we have Nationals, Dodgers or SF (whoever doesn’t get the division), St Louis, and Pirates all competing…

    need healthier Votto, and need some TRADES…. we have no bench

    • I don’t think any major trades are forthcoming and I’m not sure who you’d try to get for a reasonable deal anyway. This team is not bad, just has a few holes (like every other team). They can compete if they stay healthy (like every other team).

      • being 2 game above 500 is mediocre.. i guess you can say competing… sure… we r still better than Cubs on record… apparently not better than SD .. if one is happy w/ just competitive, i guess Reds would be that team

  67. This lineup is a dumpster fire. He should be ashamed of himself. People paid money to watch this game.

  68. More important to let Johnny go another inning and leave the unworked bullpen unworked then to try and win.

    The Cincinnati Way.

    • Um, isn’t avoiding the horrible bullpen the higher-percentage move to win this game? Not that it matters since we’re unlikely to score 3 runs at this rate, but just saying.

    • Cueto hasn’t given up a run since the 1st. He’s at 79 pitches. He’s an ace. What team WOULD take him out? He’ll probably go another 2 innings, 3 if one of the first two is particularly quick.

      • It’s the 6th inning of a game you are trailing. You have a bullpen that has not been worked in weeks.

        If you want to win this game, you don’t sacrifice an out simply to let Johnny keep pitching. Kudos to him if he doesn’t give up any more runs but you need at least 3 runs to keep this game alive. You can’t do that when you’re in the field, only when you’re AB.

        It’s a dumb move that Price has made over and over and over again.

        • Could not disagree more. Cueto is dealing, just mowing down the other team. Bringing in mediocre relievers in exchange for 1 pinch hitter (who are followed keep in mind, by Hamilton and.. wait for it.. Santiago!) seems like a very bad idea.

  69. And I thought the Reds starting pitching was good. Give me the Padres rotation over the Reds rotation any day.

  70. Mes out – Day game after night game… Tough on catchers… Cueto prefers throwing to Pena. I don’t like it but whatever.
    Votto out – Everyone and their brother/sister/mother/grandfather said he needed a day off and right now.
    Ludwick out – Ok, maybe I’d prefer him out there over Heisey but considering the huge OF, I think this is a wash today.

    I guess the question is, should Price have ignored resting Mes and Votto and included them in an “A” lineup? Would it be making a big difference right now?

    • I just think the initial shock is seeing Santiago in the 2 hole, then the complaining starts from there. Realistically you’re right though, the downfall of our team all year has been zero depth, and B lineups show that.

    • Mes is 26 and an off day tomorrow. He needs to play when the alternative is a fiery abortion of a lineup.

  71. I’m going on the 4th and hope to see Mes and Votto in the lineup against the Brewers. Perhaps that was part of the reasoning? Each win is a full game in the standings over a division opponent, especially one that’s ahead of you.

  72. Frazier: “There’s no such thing as a waste pitch. Especially if it’s a fast ball I can reach”

  73. BP can’t hit a slider. So, why swing?

    • BP is mostly guessing as a hitter over the last 2 years. He’s always been more of a guesser than a reactionary hitter, especially early in the count. As he gets older, he’s going to need to continue to guess more because he won’t have the bat-speed and quick hands needed to react as a pitch comes in.

    • He can’t tell it’s a slider till he’s already swinging is why he swings. Same problem with Bruce in all those swings at balls in the dirt.

    • Also, just to point it out.. he can in fact hit a slider. He blasted Romo’s slider into the left field stands against the Giants in the 9th the other night.

  74. 2 hit shutout. Nice.

  75. Where would this team be without Super Todd? Guy is amazing.

    • And 5h in the NL AS voting for 3B… It’s ridiculous. Even by the old fashioned avg/hr/rbi line he’s having the best year of any 3B in the NL. Plays good defense too.

      • I guess we don’t stuff the ballots as well in Cincy as other cities. Of course there was one year back in the day, that we stuffed them too well and the commissioner overrode the vote!

        • Times have changed. Most of the votes now come from much more casual fans than back in the day because it’s so easy to vote. Nothing wrong with that but it definitely favors the bigger cities by an absurd margin.

  76. 3 outs left for the Reds. Not a good way to end what could have been an excellent road trip. I guess the positive is that the road trip was still a 6-4 journey and the Brewers lost again. After the sweep of the Giants though, I know Reds’ fans had high hopes for a 9-1 or 8-2 trip.

  77. would be easier on Votto if he had a chair at the plate….can’t use legs at this point

  78. Well looks like we have faced Cy Young 3 games in a row….or at least our line up made it look that way. What is that , 29 strikeouts in 3 games and counting? Santiago needs to go, there has to be a better option. (Sigh)

  79. Top of the lineup and Mes available as a PH. Hope Santiago doesn’t get the opportunity to make another out.

  80. Offense has out Padred the Padres. Embarrassing….

  81. willy mayes hamilton with a flyout

  82. Dusty would love this.

  83. Todd Frazier away from being no hit

  84. 2 freakin runs in 3 games, you just can’t put a positive spin on this.

  85. What an uneventful and miserable game.

  86. Shutout by Tyson Ross. Huh.

  87. Why does Santiago have a MLB contract? Look as his career stats. Mind boggling that he is allowed to bat with guys like Mes an Schu on the bench in the 9th inning when we can pick up a game on Toronto. I don’t get it.

  88. I mean pick up a game on the Brewers who lost to Toronto again. Wasted chances in SD.

  89. Honestly, Price mailed this one in and the team just followed his lead. Just not a real big fan of the Skipper.

  90. Votto should take notes from the ball girl down 1st base line. 2 sots down there…good fielding position IN FRONT OF THE BALL

  91. All that is missing is Hannahan

  92. Over the course of the last three days, the Brewers were idle, lost, and lost. There’s a chance to pick up 2.5 games in three days. And we get nothin’.

  93. Glad Santiago in the 2 hole meant he could go 0-4 instead of 0-3 like the rest of the team. Seriously how hard would it be for Mes to learn 1st on the fly? If Roger Bernandina was able to get a start this year after NEVER playing an mlb or minor league game at 1st, I think I take my potential slight drop off in defense with getting my best or second best bat in the lineup, plus not weakening the D at 3rd by moving Super Todd across the diamond. This outside the box thinking is why this organization will never get beyond the good but not great threshold with the current brain trust on the field and more importantly upstairs.

  94. It reminds me of the 2012 playoff disaster. Sweep two in S.F. and then go home and get swept in three.

  95. Looking at this roster makes me wonder if Walt is still on the Cardinals payroll … smart club those Cards: let an incompetent GM join the enemy so he can take them down from within.

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