Happy Father’s Day to all the Father’s in Redleg Nation!

The Reds hope to give you the gift you always wanted today: A Reds victory and series win over the Milwaukee Brewers. Mike Leake takes the hill for Cincinnati, trying to get back on track after back-to-back 5-run outings. Similarly, Marco Estrada is trying to recover from a string of five straight poor starts.

Your Father’s Day lineup:
1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
7. Devin Mesoraco (R) C
8. Zack Cozart (R) SS
9. Mike Leake (R) P

Go Reds!

174 Responses

  1. Steve Mancuso

    Happy Father’s Day!

    Johnny Cueto and Alfredo Simon have been getting all the attention, but Mike Leake is quietly having the best year of his career. His strikeouts are the highest ever and walks the lowest ever (and he has always been a low walk pitcher). He’s inducing 10 percent more ground balls. His fastball velocity continues to move upward. For those of you so inclined, his xFIP and SIERA are really, really low.

    Ignore the win-loss record. Leake is pitching really well this year and getting better.

    The Reds need seven strong from him today.

    • ToddAlmighty

      Yeah, been impressed with Leake. Now if only he can get a couple runs in support for once, and then the bullpen make said couple runs hold.

  2. ToddAlmighty

    Jesse Winker is hitting .317/.426/.580 this year. Why is he still in A+? Needs to be promoted to AAA. If he keeps crushing the ball there, he might need a call up sometime after the All-Star game. Can’t be any worse than what’s going on in LF right now. 40 BB/46 K this year. He knows how to take a walk, and he has 13 HR so far.

  3. Steve Mancuso

    Today’s game seems XXXL important. I know it’s just one game. But the difference between being seven or nine games back, the difference between gaining ground and losing ground in the series, seems like it’s worth more than just one game.

    • ohiojimw

      Also potentially the difference between being closer to last place than second place and only a game from being closer to last than third. While nobody much has been watching those Cubbicles have been winning some games; it seems like they stay at 5-5 over the last 10 every time I check.

    • MrRed

      Some might say that it’s worth two games! But yes, they need to make some hay now. Even 7 games can be a tough deficit to overcome and a lot of things will have to go right and a lot of which won’t be in the Reds’ control.

  4. enigma

    Nobody should be surprised that the Brewers haven’t folded yet. Reds fans love discounting that team because in our own way, we’re a fairly entitled fanbase that looks down on some other franchises. Remember 2011 when they didn’t have great pitching but hit the doors off and made it to the NLCS while we went through an 83-loss season and didn’t even develop Chapman?

    Hitting does matter! Don’t let the saber guys who never picked up a bat in their life tell you that pitching is the only way to construct a team. It’s sad because Cincinnatians should know a little about heavy lineups carrying a team to great success. What was the fuel in the Big Red Machine?

    • Steve Mancuso

      Good grief. Please point to one “saber guy” who has said that “pitching is the only way to construct a team.”

      Do you have to attack some other group or create a straw argument to make every point?

      • enigma

        I’ve heard the roundabout narrative that acquiring top pitching combined with developing pitching prospects is the way to win championships for years now. It has been a popular response to the school of thought that dominated for a long time that winning rings is done with sluggers, one ace and a closer.

      • Steve Mancuso

        As you say, that narrative has been around forever. Walt Jocketty says it, for instance. It’s not a “saber guys” thing. If anything, sabermetrics shows that pitching, hitting and defense all factor in to run differential. No priority of one over another.

      • enigma

        Desiring pitching is not strictly a want of the saber crowd. The problem with our team is, Jocketty can’t make up his mind on what he wants, the 2000 Reds or the 2013 Pirates.

        It seems most baseball teams do not follow sabermetrics the way analysts and new-age media do. Look at the most successful teams of the past 5 years or so. Philadelphia, St. Louis, Boston, etc, they have won by hitting the ball. The pitching kept the other teams from coming back on them, but to win you must score. Baseball execs and personnel know this. Another coincidence with those types of teams is plate discipline. They acquire players that will hit smart. Our Reds are remedial at the plate pretty much.

  5. wildwestlv

    Happy Father’s Day to all fellow fathers & dads in the Redleg Nation! If we can’t make a run on the Division, or even the WC, then lets start to take on the role of Evil Spoiler this season. Let’s rebound from last night & GO REDS!!!

    • ohiojimw

      And maybe the GM isn’t the only one we should be riding hard over passitivity at the helm.

  6. doublenohitter

    Interesting article in the Enquirer.

    The Reds are hitting .238 as a team. You have to go back to 1942 to find a Reds team that hit lower than that

  7. Michael J Hampton

    Billy! I hope he doesn’t fall in love with trying to hit the home run ball, but they sure are welcome. I read an article somewhere early in the year comparing him to Eric Davis at the same point in their careers, I didn’t put a lot of stock in it, but maybe he is going to hit for more power than I anticipated (He already has).

  8. mikemartz

    Brewers have came up with a sure fire way to prevent Billy from stealing a base, just let him hit the ball out of the park and trot around the bases!
    I do love me some Billy!

  9. vegastypo

    How bad can BP look on that first pitch, they Bye Bye Baseball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. Michael J Hampton

    BP! Maybe I was wrong about Phillips hitting cleanup (No, not really, but with the current makeup of the team, he is getting the job done, right now. Hopefully, Bruce or Mesaroco will mature into that role).

    • Dale Pearl

      Totally agree. Brandon is playing hot right now but thr future cleanup guy has to be Mes

  11. Chris

    Wow. I’m hoping this great AB’s this inning are the result of our batters against a mediocre pitcher – and not breezes and weather related. Here’s to hoping Leake has a typical Leake day and keeps the Brewers in check.

    • mwvohio

      It’s not weather-related, they’re putting the good part of the bat on the ball. It’s mostly that Estrada has been awful.

      • vegastypo

        It looks like the Reds hitters have been able to recognize and lay off his breaking stuff, wait for something straighter.

  12. Alewitz

    Great start. Random thought – ranking clutch hitters among starters. My ranking is:
    Votto
    BP
    Frazier
    Ludwick
    Mesoraco
    Hamilton
    Cozart
    Bruce

    Last two are tough, but I Trust Cozart to put ball in play more than Bruce.

  13. muttonlettucetomato

    Good gosh, Ludwick sure seems slow in the outfield. I guess when you play next to B Ham, you’re going to look that way.

    • vegastypo

      I think we got a break on that strike three to Reynolds, but I ain’t complainin’

  14. sergeant2

    Listening to that half inning of incoherent babble in the radio booth was painful.

  15. VaRedsFan

    Per the Brewer announcers, BP has gone 37 straight plate appearances without a K

  16. sergeant2

    Happy Fathers day to all you Dad’s, Papa’s and Pop’s in Redleg Nation. Go Reds!

  17. VaRedsFan

    Front Row Amy is sporting a fine yellow top today

  18. VaRedsFan

    Votto called Leake off…cost us an out. Leake could have fielded it and taken it himself.

      • VaRedsFan

        After rewinding and watching again, he most certainly would have beat him had he fielded it cleanly.

  19. VaRedsFan

    Fine pick me up by Leake getting out of the inning.

  20. Steve Mancuso

    Two tough pitches by Leake to get Braun and LuCroy.

  21. Steve Mancuso

    Two line drives for Mesoraco today.

  22. VaRedsFan

    Mes…two much needed good at bats so far today

  23. Chris

    Why is Mes batting so low in the order? Seems Luddy, BP, and Bruce get to stick to their spots to work out their swings but Mes gets shifted around. I’d prefer him to stick in the 4, 5, or 6 spot consistently.

  24. SPRO

    Wow, talk about home field advantage. They open the roof for Estrada, the notorious fly ball pitcher, when (other than the 1st inning), the wind is whipping around and mostly blowing in. Yet they kept it closed Fri and Sat when there was even better weather.

  25. jcredlegs

    I don’t think I have ever seen a team struggle this much to win games. Just painful to watch.

  26. jcredlegs

    Bryan Price doesn’t have the first clue when to remove a pitcher and when to leave him in. Dumbest smart guy I’ve ever seen.

    • VaRedsFan

      You don’t tale Leake out there…3-0 two outs and the pitcher up. Weak lunging swing where the ball just went up the middle

  27. kywhi1

    The sad thing is that it could have been much worse if not for Bruce’s great play. How does the pitching coach not go out and speak to Leake during that inning?

  28. VaRedsFan

    I know the guys are trying on offense, but it seems like whenever we take an early lead, they just never seem to add on.

  29. Alewitz

    I have no confidence in Leake, but we’re stuck with him. At least now there is only one weak link to starters, though I would never bet on Bailey coming through in a tough must win game.

  30. Aaron Bradley

    then they just started warming up Hoover at the very end of that inning. What about Cingrani, and what about warming him up much earlier… that could have been very ugly.

  31. RedAlert

    Hope Leake can stop throwing batting practice now !!!!

    • ToddAlmighty

      How bad does Estrada have to feel when he gives up HRs to Hamilton and Phillips, though? Ouch.

  32. jas428

    Frazier is dumbfounding me. He does it ugly but it works.

  33. VaRedsFan

    Why would Hoover be the 1st guy up?

    • RedAlert

      Because Bryan Price has not seen him implode but about 2000 times already this year – next in line probably Ondrusuck

  34. VaRedsFan

    So if Cingrani is the “Long guy” He will only pitch in blowout wins or blowout losses?
    Blowout wins…few and far between plus the starter will go 7 or 8. Blowout losses…who cares?

    • vegastypo

      Gotta let him stick around for the ‘win,’ I guess. If there is one to be had by the time he’s done …

  35. RedLegHerrm

    This would be a good time to get Cingrani warming up.

    • RedLegHerrm

      Leake’s been fairly awful today and it’s only a matter of time before he gives this lead up again.

      • RedAlert

        Is Bryan Price just waiting for him to give up the lead again -???!!! – unbelievable pitching mismanagement – common theme this year

  36. vernon

    For the love of god pull Leakey faucet! Geez he is awful!

  37. Jake

    Why is Leake still in this game? How many more runs and hits does Price have to see?

  38. jcredlegs

    This team and it’s manager are an absolute mess.

    • drew

      So many who think they know its shocking

    • RedAlert

      Bryan Price’s ongoing head- scratching and poor strategic decisions continue to cost this team opportunities to win – especially his bullpen follies – Hoover , Parra , Ondrusuck =. Premium gascans

      • CP (@nomoresalads)

        You forgot Marshall. If around 50% of your bullpen is below average, you’re not exactly in great shape in real life baseball.

        There is this pervasive PS4 mentality with baseball fans. Price has to juggle pitchers being tired..he seems to have a good feel for what type of rest Chapman and Broxton need to perform.

  39. ProspectCincy

    Likely Leake’s last inning, so the Reds will need to bridge to Broxton/Chapman w/ 2 strong innings from the middle guys. Hope they have it in them today.

  40. kywhi1

    Given Leake’s struggles so far today and the mess that is passing for middle relief, the Reds better score at least one run per inning if they have any hope of winning this game.

  41. sergeant2

    Reds still have the lead, so I’m happy about that, all things considered. I’ll be a lot happier if the Reds score some more runs, and the Brewers don’t. Go Reds!

  42. vegastypo

    Wow, we tried to give away that baserunner? And Welsh says I have to love that aggressiveness?

  43. VaRedsFan

    Besides BP and the leftys, can anyone hit the ball to the right side with a man on 2nd

  44. Alewitz

    That my friends is called choking. Nobody can tell me that there are clutch and non-clutch players. I can argue that with two words – Tony Perez

    • Alewitz

      Whoops, I meant “nobody can tell me that there are NOT clutch and non-clutch players.”

      • mwvohio

        I think you meant “Nobody can convince me” because there’s about a mountain of articles and research that can argue it. I love the idea of guys being clutch but when the evidence doesn’t back it up that’s that.

    • CP (@nomoresalads)

      Tony Perez

      Career with RISP: .284/.364/.470

      Ryan Ludwick’s career with RISP: 294/.378/.488

      “Clutch”

      • Alewitz

        I get the stats, just don’t think they’re the whole story. Bottom ninth, tying run on second, two outs. Stats or no stats, are you gonna want Votto up or Bruce? Votto every time.

      • CP (@nomoresalads)

        Votto is better than Bruce by almost every measure. He always has been.

  45. Jake

    I wonder what the total number of left on base is for the reds this season. Has to be staggering

    • mwvohio

      We covered this a year or two ago. It’s almost certainly less than they had last year because LOB is usually an indicator of a good offense because it means more guys are getting on base. The BRM left tons of guys on base because they were always getting guys on.

  46. mwvohio

    Lucroy is just poison for the Reds. Braun used to be, but Lucroy by far now.

  47. ToddAlmighty

    There you go, no amazing diving catch to steal Mesoraco’s hit that time.

  48. ToddAlmighty

    How the heck do the Brewers keep this guy in after 5 straight hits?

    • ToddAlmighty

      I mean, even 3 straight hits would be enough for me to want to pull him.

  49. CP (@nomoresalads)

    A B-Ham grand slam would be a pretty great cap to his series.

    • ToddAlmighty

      The Toddfather will give you a 12-4 lead.

  50. ToddAlmighty

    I don’t think I have ever seen a coach leave a relief pitcher in to give up six straight hits before. Wow.

  51. Redgamer

    Which of these players is the disappointing rookie, the vet who should be released, the badly aging star, and the stalwart of the offense?

    .262 4 HR 18 RBI
    .270 6 15
    .262 5 20
    .277 5 28

    • CP (@nomoresalads)

      bubble gum card stats don’t tell much of a story, do they?

    • ToddAlmighty

      .296 OBP/8 CS
      .407 OBP/.852 OPS
      .317 OBP/.394 SLG
      .208 OBP/.387 SLG/8 GIDP

      • ToddAlmighty

        Oh, and that’s 6 HR in 160 AB, compared to #4’s 260 AB.

      • Kurt Frost

        BA, HR and RBI. How sadly old school of you.

  52. CP (@nomoresalads)

    The Brewers color guy is dreadful. Bemoaning the run producers who are pleased to take a walk with the bases loaded.

    • VaRedsFan

      He was speaking of walks in general…not bases loaded walks

      • CP (@nomoresalads)

        There were multiple cringe worthy statements made there…note that I wasn’t quoting him.

        :::Votto takes walk:::

        He says (I believe this is verbatim but am too lazy to rewind so we’ll call it paraphrased) Votto couldn’t be happer with that result. Goes on discussion how Votto refuses to swing at pitches outside the strike zone, even when runners are in scoring position, all with negative connotation.

        Then he implied that Votto stubbornly refuses to change his approach (as if he should even consider it).

        Then he talked about how run producers around the league share Votto’s hitting philosophy, as if there are a bunch of Joey Votto’s around the league.

        So much Nope.

    • ToddAlmighty

      How dare he produce the exact same result as Skip Schumaker and Billy Hamilton’s bases loaded singles, as well as the same production as BP’s sac fly, but minus the out.

      For shame, Votto.

      • VaRedsFan

        I knew RLN would blow up when Votto walked. I’m surprised the servers didn’t crash. It was almost as sweet as his walkoff HR earlier this year…in the minds of some. The Brewer pitchtracker showed the ball catching a piece of the plate. FWIW….I enjoyed all 4 of those run producing at bats

      • vegastypo

        That pitch to Votto did look pretty close. It just seems like sometimes the walk is the best-case scenario for him. Today’s was a ball, or was called a ball, whatever. But some of the strike-three-called against him fuel the question of how hard he tries to walk, when it seems that typically we’d cry for the batter to protect the plate on close pitches. I didn’t see yesterday’s game, but I heard it happened a few times then.

      • Kurt Frost

        It really is the best case scenario. You can’t make an out walking to first base. Put the ball in play and you’re making an out roughly 70% of the time.

  53. VaRedsFan

    Funny I posted about Cingrani in blowout wins and losses earlier… Lots of line drives but a goose egg nonetheless

  54. VaRedsFan

    Offensive explosion up and down the lineup…hope this last a couple of months.

  55. sergeant2

    42,213 turned out for today’s game. (its not a titanic struggle unless Marty says it is) Go Reds!