The Reds are looking for a win against the Dodgers tonight in a pitching rematch from May 26th between Johnny Cueto and Hyun-Jin Ryu.

In that last bout, Ryu was perfect through 7 innings before the Reds finally chased him from the game in the 8th inning (though the Dodgers held on to win). Since then, Ryu has pitched exactly six innings and two runs allowed in each start against the Pirates and the Rockies. According to the game preview, Ryu is “5-0 with a 0.95 ERA and 0.974 WHIP in six starts away from Dodger Stadium in 2014. His road ERA is the second best in the Majors among pitchers who have thrown at least 20 innings in an opposing stadium.

In his last two starts, Johnny Cueto has had one great start (7.1 shutout innings against the D-backs) and a disappointing one (4 earned runs in 5 innings against the Phillies). Cueto is the National League leader in WHIP, 3rd in ERA and WAR and ranked 6th in NL SIERA.

Johnny Vander Meer pitched his first of back-to-back no hitters on June 11, 1938.

Assuming his side bullpen session goes OK, Mat Latos return is slated for this Saturday against the Milwaukee Brewers, which would be Tony Cingrani’s next scheduled start. Bryan Price on Cingrani:It’s likely he’ll be affected by the activation of Mat.

Joey Votto and Jay Bruce played together for just the 30th time this season yesterday. They batted back-to-back in eight of the first nine games of the season, but haven’t done so since April 9th. Brayan Pena continues as Cueto’s personal catcher, having caught Cueto’s last 10 starts and 11 out of his 13.

1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
2. Todd Frazier (R) 3B
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
6. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
7. Brayan Pena (S) C
8. Zack Cozart (R) SS
9. Johnny Cueto (R) P

Go Reds!

240 Responses

  1. the next janish

    “It’s likely he’ll be affected by the activation of Mat.“ My vote for understatement of the day.

  2. ToddAlmighty

    “They batted back-to-back in eight of the first nine games of the season, but haven’t done so since April 9th. Brayan Pena continues as Cueto’s personal catcher, having caught Cueto’s last 10 starts and 11 out of his 13.”

    Which when combined with how horrible the bullpen was until like a week ago and nothing happening to help it, just goes to show how pretty much all the words that came out of Bryan Price’s mouth in the offseason were just words. Votto and Bruce back-to-back, no personal catchers, accountability. None of which had stood the test of the first two months of baseball.

  3. George Mirones

    Just for grins who said this and when;
    “We haven’t had a good month yet,” “We need one of those months where you go 20-and-8 or 20-and-9 and then you look up and you might be only two games back and a few games over .500 and we’re feeling good about ourselves”
    Your choices are
    Dusty Baker 2013
    Bryan Price 2014
    Sparky A. 1971

  4. George Mirones

    While you are Googling here is the answer both Dusty and Price have uttered these words or some very similar.
    Sparky, Never!

    • charlottencredsfan

      From your lips to God’s ears.

    • the next janish

      I think Bruce is his own protection, as in I doubt the pitcher is going to want to pitch around him anyway. But still I’m hoping for him to finally hop on that streak that is currently alluding him. !Bruce enfuegase!

  5. charlottencredsfan

    Pretty horrible bottom of the 1st.

  6. Dale Pearl

    I envy Ludwick. Every parent in the world should raise their child to play baseball. You get paid sick money whether you earn it or not. Even better than being a third string quarterback.

  7. charlottencredsfan

    Marty questioning Mes not catching tonight. Happy to see that.

    • Vicferrari

      Do not get why this is strange to people, most catchers do not go 5 straight days starting. Do people really have a problem with Pena catching Cueto all the time. What exactly is the issue?

      • charlottencredsfan

        Mes crushes lefties and the Reds can’t score runs. Other then that, no problem.

  8. ToddAlmighty

    What’s this on field delay?

    • charlottencredsfan

      Kemp was thrown out of the game. Good night, Matt.

  9. Whoa Bundy!

    Umpires taking some abuse. Teams not happy with the strike zone this series. Kemp not happy cause he is a strike out machine.

  10. muttonlettucetomato

    Not sure why Kemp was so upset. The pitch in question looked like a corner strike to me. They just kicked the Reds butts 2 in a row. No class at all…

  11. charlottencredsfan

    MB is being real about the Reds hitting woes, I like it.

    • Vicferrari

      What is he doing, announcing what happens during the game?

      • charlottencredsfan

        Actually he sounds like 75% of the posters on this blog. This offense is not getting it done. Period, no ifs, ands, and buts.

      • Vicferrari

        My point was that it would be pretty difficult to be optimistic about this line-up, all you have to do you just call it like it is, and it is bad- outside of the 4th inning Sunday- it was awful not many days when Cozart, Bailey, Hamilton generate 4 runs

  12. VaRedsFan

    Dodgers better w/ van slyke….. bad break for us

  13. Dale Pearl

    If i had to guess i would have to say ludwick starting is no not Prices call. It is more about dollars than sense. Smells like a Jocketty demand.

  14. al

    That was a pretty bush league display by Matt Kemp. At this point in your major league career, how many close calls have gone your way, and how many have gone against you? Thousands of each. You’d think that a veteran like him would be used to it.

    Maybe that pitch was an inch of the plate. Is that worth getting tossed and dropping about 75 F-bombs at top volume in front of a bunch of kids?

  15. charlottencredsfan

    If Ludwick hits into a DP here, he should be released.

    • charlottencredsfan

      That’s improvement, fellows.

  16. doublenohitter

    Ryan Ludwick pops out with runners on 1st and 2nd and no outs. It is just amazing at the fail rate of the Reds hitters in big at-bats.

    • Dale Pearl

      No stat for clutch… Most dont believe in it but yeah we stink bigtime in atbats that actually matter

      • al

        In fact, there is a stat for clutch. It’s on fangraphs. It’s not that people don’t believe in clutch hits, it’s that the data has shown that players aren’t consistently clutch year to year. So while a guy may be clutch one year, that doesn’t mean he’ll be clutch the next year.

        Which means that it’s not an inborn talent, like being able to throw 95.

  17. Ed Lambert

    Hanging breaking ball served up on a plate and it’s popped straight up for the infield fly rule. Pitiful

  18. doublenohitter

    Reds will find a way to screw up an inning, won’t they? If it wasn’t so sad, it would be laughable.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Sometimes BP’s brain goes into deep freeze.

  19. Ed Lambert

    This is like Major League the movie. Just horrible. TOOTBLAN double play to end the inning. Why do I keep coming back for more of this?

  20. ToddAlmighty

    If the goal of baseball was not scoring when you have 2 or more guys on and zero outs, the Reds would be the World Champs.

  21. Whoa Bundy!

    We are Reds hot……at failing with runners on base. At least Bruce got a hit. Maybe this will lead to a hot streak.

    • Whoa Bundy!

      Is Ruben Gotay possibility? He seems to hit some at Louisville.

      • Dale Pearl

        He sadly plays third and is 31 he is a typical aaaa stuck between aaa and major league talent

      • Whoa Bundy!

        So he is like most of the Reds current roster?

      • Dale Pearl

        And probably to old to take many chances on in learning a new position. If frazier gets a serious injury i think that would be the only time we see him. Although Todd used to be a left fielder….. Hmmmmmm m

      • Vicferrari

        That would require making a move to this monster 40 man roster, they might have cut Bernadina

      • Dale Pearl

        And that too… Which they have proven they wont bother adjusting 40 man roster…and with a team this lethargic says that the gm doesnt believe any chages will do any good… Again it comes down to Jocketty strangling any changes

  22. ToddAlmighty

    Dodgers are really making Cueto work for his perfect innings. 52 pitches in 3 innings. Need to get an easier 4th.

  23. al

    Thom Brennaman is on a crusade to make sure that everyone knows that he has no sense of humor. Thom, I think we got it!

  24. sultanofswaff

    Pena starting over Mesoraco. Apparently our offense is good enough to absorb taking the 5th best catcher in the majors out of the lineup.

    Again, egos before the team needs. When you think of it in the context of Chapman not starting, Phillips hitting 3rd, Bruce not going on a rehab assignment, there’s just too much smoke to not yell fire. This team will never fire on all cylinders until this issue are addressed.

    • Dale Pearl

      Catchers cant catch every day. This is Mes once a week besides Reds want Mes healthy for years to come

      • charlottencredsfan

        Mes should catch against all left handed starters. Have a look at his splits. Price has said it many times in the past: “no personal catchers”.

      • ToddAlmighty

        He also said Votto and Bruce could bat back-to-back, and that he’d bring accountability to this team… soooooo…..

      • charlottencredsfan

        Price will not be here for long so don’t get attached to him.

      • Vicferrari

        I think it is obvious this is not the case, Pena is Cueto’s personal catcher…right?

  25. ToddAlmighty

    Here’s a mind blowing stat for you.. Billy Hamilton and Todd Frazier are the only people on the team with at least 8 stolen base attempts…. Billy Hamilton is only 1.6% more successful at stealing bases this year than Todd Frazier.

  26. charlottencredsfan

    Big League AB by Billy. Seldom seen by a Red not named Votto.

    • Whoa Bundy!

      He’s young and he’s learning. Positive signs. And Frazier didn’t swing to let him steak.

      • ToddAlmighty

        That alone speaks volumes about Frazier being a better #2 hitter than everyone not named Votto who’s been tried there in the past.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Never had any doubt that Billy Hamilton will be a very good MLB player – at the very least. He is just getting started.

  27. charlottencredsfan

    A single might win this game.

  28. ToddAlmighty

    Time for Votto to announce his return.

    • Vicferrari

      Maybe the league is getting the message not to walk the batter to get to him, might change things if Frazier starts getting fastballs

    • charlottencredsfan


      Can not let BP hit with the sacks packed.

      • Dale Pearl

        Sad but true. Not only that but distance in the lineup is essential between votto and phillips.

  29. sultanofswaff

    Will a walk be just as valuable as a hit here? Just wondering.

  30. charlottencredsfan

    I can’t tell you how very happy this fan is. Way to go Joey!

  31. charlottencredsfan


    • charlottencredsfan

      No a challenge option on that play. Thank God.

  32. Ed Lambert

    Good things happens when you don’t swing a curve balls in the dirt. Walks followed by the occasional big hit.

  33. muttonlettucetomato

    I’ve sure missed seeing that from Votto… as a matter of fact, I’ve missed seeing a 2 out RBI knock from the team in general.

  34. Michael J Hampton

    I’m beginning to not like Mattingly. To even bring that up is C.S. He didn’t help him, if anything he hindered him.

    • Whoa Bundy!

      He’s being a jerk. Go manage a little league team.

  35. sultanofswaff

    After the no-send last night, Smith needs to get his head out of his derriere.

  36. Whoa Bundy!

    Two crushing hits by our clean up hitter. At least it’s another RBI.

  37. Matt V

    What’s going on with Mattingly? I just have Gamecast.

    • Whoa Bundy!

      He argued the third base coach aided billy when rounding third to score. When in face he collided with Billy and slowed home down.

    • charlottencredsfan

      Billy touched the 3rd base coach when rounding third to score. It is an automatic out but the umps didn’t catch it and it is not reviewable. Bet $1000 that is the only time BHam has that happen in his career.

      • doublenohitter

        It is not an automatic out. Only if the coach assisted the runner. When a guy hits a home run, they high five on the way by the coach all the time.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Marty & the Cowboy said any touch was an out but not for a HR, as you stated. Are you going on Thom’s word or did you know this yourself? Because if it comes down to Thom versus Marty, I’ll go with Old Man 99.9999% of the time.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Thanks Todd & DNH for getting me straightened out.

  38. sergeant2

    FYI- You can get a mlb t.v. subscription for half price this week $39.99 through Fathers Day. Go Reds!

  39. yorktownred

    Nice shutdown inning. Let’s get some more runs!

  40. Ed Lambert

    Wow was that a makeup call for throwing out Kemp? That pitch Ludwick was at his ankles.

  41. sergeant2

    I didn’t need to see the pitch location graph to know that called 3rd strike to Ludwick low, very low. Are they pulling fans out of the stands now to umpire games.

  42. muttonlettucetomato

    Cueto getting it done tonight. The only concern is pitch count because the only thing I see to derail the Reds tonight is middle relief. Jonny needs to get thru 7 if he can.

  43. ToddAlmighty

    High pitch count, but DANG Cueto is looking downright nasty right now. The stuff he’s throwing out there would shut down any lineup.

  44. George Mirones

    90 pitches through 5 innings. To get through 7 he may end up with 120 pitches then Broxton And Chapman. Need 2 more runs.

    • Dale Pearl

      If anyone can throw 120 pitches and still be effective its cueto but yeah he will be departing without a complete game tonight

  45. Dale Pearl

    Choo has scored 33 runs this year for texas. Hamilton 28 choos high obp is not equalling runs scored so for the dollar so far this year the nudge should go to bham. If choo was on the reds this year with his current stats he would have about 22 runs scored with the offense we have had behind him

  46. charlottencredsfan

    My stomach is getting queasy.

  47. ToddAlmighty

    Wow, mind blown. Why not bring in a PH? Down by three, two runners on with zero outs. Starting pitcher at 90-something pitches and getting hit around.

    That’s some Dusty Baker type stuff right there.

  48. doublenohitter

    I was thinking about trade scenarios.

    I would talk to Arizona and offer them Mike Leake and Zach Cozart for Didi Gregorious and Joe Thatcher.
    I’d then send Broxton and a minor leaguer to the Dodgers for Joc Peterson.

  49. charlottencredsfan

    Johnny Cueto is a pretty good pitcher.

    • ToddAlmighty

      He’s done and he’s aware. He shook his hands in his glove above his head as the crowed cheered him into the dugout. LeCure/Broxton/Chapman time?

    • muttonlettucetomato

      That would be a tough call for me. He’s doing great and until Broxton in the 8th, I wouldn’t feel good about the bullpen, but you don’t want his arm to fall off.

  50. Dale Pearl

    I for one would like to see Cueto go back out there. But that depends if there are runners in scoring position when he comes to at bat.

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  52. Vicferrari

    Not saying Bruce is in a hot streak, but some one give his slash line over the past 10 games or so, stats are looking respectable compared where they were at the end of May

  53. charlottencredsfan

    The big boys coming up huge tonight: Johnny, Joey & Jay.

    • Vicferrari

      Any body have Hoover and Ondrusek’s splits coming in with a lead?

  54. charlottencredsfan

    Reds just can not lose this game, it would be beyond devastating.

  55. VaRedsFan

    Parra need to get a lefty out for a change

  56. sergeant2

    Ondrusek has been pitching pretty good lately, but I guess he picked a bad time to quit smoking.

  57. ToddAlmighty

    “Lets bring in Ondrusek.. oh, he sucks? Lets bring in Parra then, his 4.83 ERA should solve it.”

    Parra should have never taken the field. IF you want to go with Ondrusek, the second you took him out, you bring Broxton in for 5 outs. None of this three relief pitchers totaling one out stuff.

    • Vicferrari

      Someone has to get the runners on so Broxton could get the DP,needed to keep his PC down

  58. George Mirones

    Broxton gives up a lot of fly ball outs, this situation calls for a ground ball to third, 5-2-3 DP.

  59. Kurt Frost

    Does anyone else have dee Gordons stats and the Fox ticker all screwed up on the screen?

  60. yorktownred

    Need the Dodgers to pull a “Ludwick” here.

    • Vicferrari

      I will take 6 more outs, from either side

    • Vicferrari

      Definitely why waste Chapman for 6 outs and probably make him unavailable tomorrow?, potentially there is a blow out and they do not need him in the 9th at all, Broxton threw so few pitches he is at least coming out for the 8th- he has been beyond belief this season

  61. sergeant2

    Yeah baby!! Yeah baby!! Yeah baby!! That’s what I’m talkin’ about. You da man Brox.

    • Vicferrari

      Do not worry there will be blown saves to push us over the edge, I do not expect it tonight though

  62. Dale Pearl

    Looking at Cueto’s line for today is staggering. Almost doesn’t make sense. 112 pitches. 12ks. 0 walks. 3 hits. 20 batters faced.

  63. Dale Pearl

    yeah. I’d like to see him steal second and third. Why not we are up by 5 might as well go for it here.

  64. Dale Pearl

    ok so let’s try a steal of home. I have never seen one before so now would be a great time for it!

  65. charlottencredsfan

    2-outs, lefty on the mound, 5-run lead and BP up? Steal home Billy.

    • Vicferrari

      I thought people were up in arms of Puig attempting to steal 2nd last night, I think a steal of home up 5 in the 7th would break all baseball etiquette and would see a few pitches in Billy’s ribs tomorrow

  66. VaRedsFan

    2 hits and a walk for BP….that should quiet the critics for ..oohhh…4 hrs or so.

  67. charlottencredsfan

    Guess Jay was looking for anything but a meatball right down Broadway.

      • charlottencredsfan

        You’re probably right. Hey, Jay hits a HR a night I’m good.

  68. sergeant2

    Good pitch by the Dodger pitcher. Still a good at bat by Bruce, he definitely didn’t look lost at the plate like he has been. I think that bodes well for Bruce and the Reds. Go Reds!

    • charlottencredsfan

      Picked up an insurance run, can’t argue with that.

    • Vicferrari

      He is saving the grandslam for tomorrow, I am pretty sure he has an OPS near 1.000 for the month, I can feel the en fuego Jay coming on

  69. charlottencredsfan

    Broxton cuts quite a figure in the new uni.

  70. VaRedsFan

    LA has to close to a record tonight for foul balls

    • pinson343

      Yeh I’ve never seen anything like it.

  71. sergeant2

    Broxton likes to throw a little drama in the mix from time to time just to keep things interesting.

  72. charlottencredsfan

    Does any other 2b make that play?

  73. Dale Pearl

    Broxton was simply amazing there. The dodgers were giving some great at bats but great pitching beats great hitting more often than not.

  74. VaRedsFan

    More good stuff by Brox on the mound and BP in the field

  75. SPRO

    All these foul balls by LA just goes to show how impressive Cueto’s 12Ks was. With all those contact swings, he still battle and got those 2-strike swings and misses

  76. pinson343

    Good job by Broxton. As far as the Dodger hitters go tonite, I’ve never seen so many foul balls in my life.

  77. pinson343

    I expect Chapman to pitch the 9th. He’s already warmed up, and he’s the freshest arm in the pen.

    • VaRedsFan

      No problem seeing him here either, considering who is left in the pen.

  78. Dale Pearl

    16 k’s for Reds pitchers. This win sure does feel fantastic. I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of something special!

  79. VaRedsFan

    Break out those camo uni’s tomorrow too!

  80. sergeant2

    Very well played game in all aspects for the Reds. If the second half of the season is as good as the first half was bad, than this Reds team not only has a good chance to make the post season, but be a team to be reckoned with in the post season. Lets go for the split tomorrow win another Reds win. Go Reds! Adios Amigos.

  81. Reed Tom

    A fine game for the Reds. A win tomorrow would split the series. The six games coming up with the Brewers and Pirates are crucial for the Reds.