Final R H E
  Cincinnati Reds  (23-28) 3 8 0
  Los Angeles Dodgers  (29-25) 2 5 0
 W:  Bailey (5-3)     L: Kershaw (3-2)
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Relentlessness

Provided a “why they play the game” lesson with gritty performance. 

Positives

In the first inning, Brandon Phillips drilled a 94 mph Kershaw fastball on a 1-2 count into the left field bleachers, scoring Todd Frazier who had doubled. Nice recovery in the AB for Phillips who earlier in the count had swung at a pitch that almost hit his feet. Phillips also saved a run with a superb defensive play in the first inning, fielding a ground ball deep in the first base hole.

Todd Frazier led off the sixth inning with his second double of the game. He moved to third with aggressive base running on a Phillips’ ground ball to the shortstop. Frazier scored on a Kershaw wild pitch.

Brayan Peña had three hits in four at bats.

Homer Bailey pitched a strong game, giving up just five hits and one walk in seven innings. Bailey struck out six Dodgers. This was one of Bailey’s best fastball games, dialing it up to 97-98 in the seventh inning. He was pulled after 96 pitches. If you’re one of those people who pays attention to whether a pitcher gives up four runs or more in a start, Homer has had five quality starts out of six in the month of May. Those five games were against the Brewers, Rockies, Red Sox, Dodgers and Cardinals.

Jonathan Broxton continued his outstanding 2014 by retiring the dangerous Yasiel Puig and Hanley Ramirez with Dee Gordon in scoring position. Broxton has given up only 6 hits in 14 2/3 inning and given up only one run in 15 appearances. As John Fay tweeted:

Negatives

Manny Parra walked Dee Gordon on four pitches to lead off the eighth inning. Parra’s walk rate (11.3% before tonight) is completely unacceptable. Hard to keep using him in high leverage situations.

Not so random thoughts

Brandon Phillips came into this game hitting .410/.465 after a day off, including two of his four home runs. That’s based on a quick by-hand calculation, so don’t take it to the bank. It’s also not as small of a sample size (43 at bats) as you would think. Phillips had yesterday’s game off.

The Reds scored three runs in each game in this series. Pitching (Tuesday) and defense (Monday) cost them the other two games. They played a complete game tonight against the best pitcher in baseball and won a one-run game.

80 Responses

  1. Dale Pearl

    Give Brandon more days off… apparently it works. I think we really needed a sweep coming in myself, I am not trying to be to negative but I don’t see us being able to catch either the Brewers or the Cardinals unless we roll off a huge winning streak.
    A well played game for the most part glad to see the boys playing with some anger in them, I think that is just what they need to do. Prove all of doubters wrong, show up with vinegar in the veins, pitch a few high and tight, and don’t go down without a fight. EVERY SINGLE GAME.

    I think Pena has found a home in cincy. Him and Frazier make a good mix on the bench and in the lineup.

    • sergeant2

      Excellent comment. I agree, If the Reds are going down, at least go down fighting. There’s still a long way to go before the season ends, who’s to say that the teams in our division won’t lose some of their star players to injury for long periods of time just like the Reds have. At full strength I truly believe this Reds team would be a team to be reckoned with. Go Reds!

  2. Mutaman

    “I am not trying to be to negative but I don’t see us being able to catch either the Brewers or the Cardinals unless we roll off a huge winning streak.”

    Funny, my calendar still says May.

      • Mutaman

        Read the whole post. Can’t agree that we’d need a ” a huge winning streak” to catch the Brewers when there is still 4 months of baseball to be played.

      • Vicferrari

        Without a huge winning streak this team will not break .500, I see no indication that Votto makes this offense more potent,I do not see how Latos makes the rotation better, and do not see anything that will differ than what they currently are.They need to win series against the Cards(getting too late for that), they need a lights out pitching performance every night to win and sometimes that is not good enough…see most of Leake’s games for reference. They will not slow and steady get back into it, because even if the middle of the bullpen turns it around- Chapman will blow the typical 3 or 4 games & Broxton is not this good. There will be months a mediocrity, they need to win 7 in a row, quick, or 10 of 12 and then have a miracle September run where they beat the teams ahead of them

      • memgrizz

        They’re 23-28. With 111 games remaining, they’ll need to go 59-52 (53%) to break .500 for the full year. I don’t think that necessarily warrants a “huge winning streak” of 7 in a row or 10 of 12.

  3. sergeant2

    And whats this nonsense of having a fire sale and start a rebuilding process. We’re not even out of the month of May yet. I’m not ready to surrender yet, not at this stage of the game. Did the U.S. surrender when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no we didn’t. And Redleg Nation is not about to throw up the white flag before we even have our Platoon at full strength. Go Reds!

    • Dale Pearl

      As long as we know when to sell before the contracts start to expire. Aside from that I don’t care if we have a fire sale or not. I love my Reds no matter if Dunn, Ludwick, or Pee Wee Herman is playing in Left Field.

      • sergeant2

        I’m on your side, I believe you. My comment about having a fire sale wasn’t directed at you. Go Reds! And Go Dale Pearl for being a true blue Reds fan.

    • AD

      I think history tells us Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. 🙂

    • pinson343

      I’m with you, Sarge. Couldn’t believe the nonsense Paul Daugherty wrote the other day about how the Reds have no realistic chance of making the playoffs and need to start shopping players. Anyone who has followed baseball for as much as one season knows how much can change between late May and late September.

      If I were his boss, I wouldn’t allow him to cover the Reds anymore. Actually if I were his boss, I’d fire him.

      Love the Animal House reference, it’s become a Redleg Nation tradition when things get tough, always makes me feel better.

      • Joe Atkinson

        I think you’re twisting Daugherty’s words a bit. What he said was:

        * The Reds need to win 88 games for this season to be considered “anything but a disappointment,” and that they have to go 66-46 from here on out to make that happen. That’s not naysaying – that’s math.

        * He has seen nothing from this team that indicates they will play nearly .600 baseball the rest of the way out. Neither have I. The Reds’ starting pitchers are capable of putting together that kind of run … but they’ve pitched like that all year, and the team remains six games under .500. I know we all feel great because they beat Kershaw last night, but the fact of the matter is that, starting pitchers aside, this is, as Doc said, a pretty average team. They have scored 177 runs to date – good for 28th in MLB, and only two ahead of the two teams tied for last. In the month of May, they’ve scored 75 runs – good for last in MLB – hit .231 as a team (tied for 27th) and gotten on base at a .289 clip (dead last in the majors). That’s bad, folks, and does little to contradict his claim that this team is unlikely to play .600 ball from here out.

        * That said – and as Doc noted – it’s May. “I’m not saying it doesn’t matter anymore. No one is out of anything in May. But it’s close.” Reading this same board after the loss Tuesday, I don’t think you’d find much disagreement.

        I’m all for calling people out – be they sportswriters, the manager, players, etc. – when they deserve it. But I think suggesting a columnist should be fired for pointing out some harsh realities about the hometown team is a bit over the top. Because while I hope he’s wrong and something clicks with these guys on the flight to Arizona that leads to a major run in June … he’s right. We’ve seen nothing to date to indicate that will happen.

      • toastedkatz

        You are too reasonable for this board. If I were your boss, I’d fire you.

      • charlottencredsfan

        This sounds like where I’m at. I have not given up total hope because anything is still possible but that is not a great place to be. I’m enjoying the games more because my expectations have been tempered. If JV can come back soon, they probably have a slight chance to get back in the race but even then this bullpen is so horrific it would be a heck of a surprise.

    • greenmtred

      The U.S. didn’t surrender when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Hard to know what we would have done had the Germans bombed it too.

    • Ohioindiaspora

      Other than the fact that it was Japan that bombed Pearl Harbor, I agree. Though I was born on the day the Reds won their last World Series, Semper Fi!

      • Matt WI

        It’s a wildly famous movie quote, not a misspoken fact about Pearl Harbor! See video link above.

      • RiverCity Redleg

        It’s not the fact that we’ve fallen behind in math and science, but rather the inability to recognize Animal House quotes that make me weep for today’s youth. (The same goes for Caddyshack and Fletch quotes).

      • preacherj

        You see, Jim Belushi had this brother John who was actually funny, and…….ah, never mind. I’ll just sit here feeling old.

      • sergeant2

        I thought everyone would recognize that famous line from Animal House. I’m a bit of a WWII history buff and I am well aware of who bombed Pearl Harbor.

      • sergeant2

        Yes I know it was Japan that bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7th 1941 a day that will live in infamy. The Germans bombing Pearl Harbor was a line from the comedy classic Animal House. Semper Fi.

  4. ohiojimw

    This one had the feel of a real grinder. Good one to win but it only means something if they can start to put games like this together consistently versus having some portion of their game seeming to take the day off more often than not.

    No doubt these guys are physically challenged to compete what with the number of injuries and who specifically is injured. However it seems like mental lapses that result in physical mistakes are their bigger enemy.

    As was pointed out in the recap, it was defensive failures on Monday which robbed the team of the opportunity of winning this series versus the Dodgers.

    Hopefully they can get 3 of 4 in Phoenix and make it a winning road trip.

  5. Jeff Morris

    Got to give it to Chapman for developing other pitches. I didn’t know he could do that, or at least throw them for strikes. Its time to let the other guys play that are producing, no matter the name or salary. I would play Shumauker and Pena more. Ludwick and Bruce are hitting well at all. Ludwick is just getting too old or something. He should finish out his career as a DH in the American League. Bruce is still hurt or something going on? To save embarassement, I would just put him back on the DL, and put Lutz in RF, or Lutz in LF, and Shumauker in RF. At least Shumauker usually puts the ball in play, Ludwick just strikes out too much.

    • pinson343

      It’s been really interesting to watch Chapman pitch lately. That is, he’s pitching, not just throwing. After the game where he blew a save on 3 straight hard hit balls by the bottom of the Nats order, all on fastballs that they were geared up for, he made a big adjustment. SInce then he’s been using the change up regularly and mixing in all 3 pitches.

      Against Kemp he was adamant about not throwing him a fastball on 3-2, had Mes come out to the mound to make that clear. He’s given up some big HRs to RHed hitters, and has learned from it.

      He can throw all 3 pitches for strikes but his command of them is still not that good. Usually his pitches have so much movement that it doesn’t matter.

      • ohiojimw

        The thought crossed my mind that this was the first time I’d actually seen Chapman acting/ thinking like a starter. He was going to walk Kemp before he was going to give in and throw him a heater.

    • pinson343

      You absolutely positively don’t want to DL Bruce unless he’s hurt. You also don’t want to bench him. He should have done a few games rehab in the minors, but it’s too late for that now. If he’s healthy, he’ll start hitting bombs any day now. We’ve seen it so many times.

  6. pinson343

    I love it when the manager of the other team makes a dumb decision to help the Reds win. The Reds have won a couple games lately with the help of a sac bunt by the other team. After Parra walks Dee leading off on 4 pitches, Ethier lays down a sac bunt on the first pitch ???!!! Thank you very much !

    For starters, with Dee as the top base stealer in the NL and Ethier a good hitter, it seemed like there were multiple better options. But even if you decide to bunt, how about making Parra throw a called strike first ?

    • VaRedsFan

      I think Ethier missed the sign, because Gordon was running on the pitch. Ethier was giving a hard look to the 3rd base coach after the AB. Truly a gift out.

      • vegastypo

        Ethier was told to bunt and was determined to do so. A more experienced No.2 hitter there would have been more confident in at least taking a pitch to give Gordon a chance to steal………And for the record, I heard that last night was Gordon’s first walk all year against a lefty pitcher. Can’t be walking that guy, make him hit his way on base.

  7. pinson343

    Homer has predictably come around. He was still in spring training mode early in the season, after missing time in ST due to the groin injury. The Reds have a very good starting rotation, that alone is reason for hope.

  8. Dale Pearl

    If you guys think Reds fan are fair weather fans and overly critical you should read a few of the dodgers blogs right now. They are infuriated that the Dodgers didn’t get a sweep. Half of think that the entire lineup minus Puig needs to be tossed out and the other half think that Kershaw is washed up. They give no credit to the Reds of course. Talk about insanity.

  9. big5ed

    Price was smart to to give Phillips a day off, and I hope he does more of it. Phillips likely needs a day off every week, especially when the travel is rough like this week. Phillips won’t really like it, but it would be better for everybody, including Phillips, if they rest him more.

    In light of the bad travel situation after the night game on Sunday, winning 1 of 3 against the Dodgers’ best 3 starters isn’t too bad. They need to pound Arizona, though.

    Frazier is an excellent base runner, with great instincts. I didn’t see (dozing; some would say comatose) the play where he went to third on a grounder to short, ultimately generating a run. Steve described it as “aggressive,” but would it have been a TOOTBLAN if he had been out? Was he lucky or good or both?

    • VaRedsFan

      Rule of thumb is: If the ball is hit behind you, go to third. He did. It might have been close if HanRam throws to 3rd…But it was 100% the correct decision.

  10. VaRedsFan

    Count me as one of the happy ones that we didn’t get Kemp. My eyes confirmed all of the negative comments about him in the media….He’s lost at the plate right now.

  11. Drew

    I am amazed how some here can sit watch the Reds and not self explode. Some are so over the top about how things are falling apart one day and not the next or how this team can’t do anything right or left..It’s a game, it’s a wonderful game and the Reds have some nice talent on the field and in the future. Is it a great team, not really but look around baseball this year, is there any really “great” teams? Look at all the money the Dodgers have spent…exactly where are they? Enjoy the game, enjoy the Reds and relax and enjoy the summer of baseball.

    • greenmtred

      I like that perspective, but will admit to taking a slight, informal break from watching them (late start times on the wrong coast are part of it).

      • greenmtred

        “Wrong coast” was referencing the very late start times for the games that are played out there. It wasn’t referencing historic drought, mudslides, earthquakes, water shortages, crime or cataclysmic wild-fires. I’m glad that you like where you live (I assume the west coast): satisfaction with one’s surroundings is crucial to quality of life.

  12. Eric the Red

    One thing I’ve noticed about Chapman: he’s coming into the game and immediately throwing harder than he used to. It used to take him a few pitches–or even a batter or 2–to get up around 100 MPH, but he’s there from the 1st pitch now.

    Broxton has been tremendous. He seems to be working faster, and walking fewer batters. And for those who don’t think injuries matter, just imagine how this game could have gone with Broxton and Chapman still on the DL.

  13. WVRedlegs

    When does Latos throw next? Is that tonight or tomorrow night? A lot is riding on this session for Latos and for the Reds.
    Good win last night. Bailey was dealing it to the Dodgers. That murder’s row of opponents that Bailey has faced in May that Steve points out is rather impressive. That has to give Bailey more confidence in this season as it progresses after his rough start. Thats good news for the Reds and bad news for NL opponents.

    • vanwilder8

      Rumor was he’s starting tomorrow night in Columbus. Nothing official that I’ve seen though.

    • Kyle Farmer

      Friday in Columbus for Latos. I will be there!

  14. sultanofswaff

    I heard on the radio this morning that the Cubs lead the majors in pitches seen per at-bat when they hit. Their offense stinks. Our offense stinks too (17 fewer runs scored than the Cubs). The Reds are last in the majors in total pitches thrown to us. Obviously that’s a product of the cumulative effect of not hitting which results in fewer at-bats, but given that the Cubs are in nearly the same boat as us yet see a lot of pitches, it really makes you scratch your head, no?

    • Steve Mancuso

      Hadn’t seen that. It’s entirely a matter of organizational philosophy on how they instruct hitting and the players they sign for free agency. You’re seeing the result of Moneyball principles being adopted by the President of the Cubs (Theo Epstein) who did the same thing for the Red Sox as they won three World Series, two directly under him.

      • greenmtred

        I think that the Sultan’s point was that seeing lots of pitches isn’t helping the Cubs much, though one would be correct in pointing out that they are the Cubs. I’m not (really, I’m not) discounting the value of Moneyball, but it does bear noting that the Red Sox had very good players during Epstein’s tenure–good whether evaluated with old stats or new stats. They were not an assembly of hidden gems with under-appreciated skills. Oakland was, sort of, but others have pointed out that their starting pitching was excellent. And they didn’t win the WS.

      • Steve Mancuso

        The Red Sox hired Bill James on November 15, 2002. And they won their first World Series in 100 years in 2004, then again in 2007. They did have some star players and great pitching, but one key to those teams were role players like: Kevin Millar, Bill Mueller, Mark Bellhorn, Jason Varitek and Gabe Kapler (2004); Varitek, JD Drew, and Kevin Youkilis (2007). All of those players are high OBP hitters and exactly an assembly of hidden gems with under-appreciated skills.

    • Matt WI

      Well… you also have to consider the talent seeing all of those pitches on the Cubs. It’s a good process, but the better results will come when they can apply it to even better players.

    • big5ed

      Pitchers have adapted to hitters working the count. I will never forget Pedro Martinez last year, before the Reds playoff game against the Pirates, when it was pointed out to him about Votto’s tendencies. Pedro said that he would pound Votto strikes early in the count, especially the first pitch. Pedro, as smart and fierce a competitor as you will ever see, was taking the position that if Votto wanted to face top-line pitching down 0-1 and 0-2 in the count, then Pedro would certainly accommodate him. And in the long run, Votto would re-adjust by hitting any first pitch meatballs, which he does in fact like to do, contrary to reputation.

      The point is that players are always adjusting to the circumstances and that nothing will work over the long run, other than talent. If you are a notorious first-ball hitter, pitchers quit throwing strikes on the first pitch, unless it’s the Reds against Yadier Molina.

      With the Cubs, it may just be a function of pitchers’ avoiding the center of the plate, knowing that there isn’t much downside in going deep into counts.

      It is maddening,though, how many first pitch outs the Reds seem to make, especially Cozart.

  15. WVRedlegs

    While in Arizona for 4 games, I wonder if the Reds could pick up their old mate while they are there? No, not Bronson, but a SS/2B to backup Cozart and Phillips. You know, Didi Gregorius. After being demoted to AAA by Arizona in the first week of the season, Gregorius is hitting .314/.397/.459 in 53 games with 39 R, 25 RBI, 23 BB, 25 K at AAA.
    It’d be nice to have Didi back in the fold.

    • Shchi Cossack

      I don’t know if any trade by any organization is possible right now with the Snakes.

      • WVRedlegs

        Why? Are they snake-bitten over trading Adam Eaton to the WhiteSox for a closer? Or from trading for Mark Trumbo only to see all his HR power end up on the DL for an extended time this year? They need some help. I just wonder if WJ even has the gumption to even inquire on Gregorius while they are in Arizona.

      • Shchi Cossack

        No one knows who’s actually running the show since LaRussa was hired to ‘oversee’ all baseball operations and the GM was left in place without specific responsibilities defined for anyone.

        I was shocked when Eaton went to the White Sox and frustrated that the Reds didn’t get in on that action. I thought Eaton would have been a nice fit for the Reds, but didn’t dream the Snakes would let him go.

      • WVRedlegs

        I forgot about LaRussa’s hiring. Towers is the GM. A protege of Trader Jack. I thought the Reds might be able to deal with him. But if they’ve put the clamps on any moves, then getting Gregorius back isn’t going to happen. It is probably the many moves of Towers that has Arizona where they are. That and injuries. He’s traded away too much pitching.

      • preacherj

        LaRussa. Just one more reason to call them ‘snakes’.

    • the next janish

      I watched Didi play last week and he looked pretty good to say the least.

  16. ohiojimw

    We wouldn’t want Cozart to think he might actually have to compete and perform for PT in MLB, After all that is something he has never had to do since the job was handed to him on a silver platter in 2011 🙂

  17. WVRedlegs

    The MLB draft is one week from today. Rounds 1-2 on Thursday. Rounds 3-10 on Friday and rounds 11 and up on Saturday. The Reds picks on the first day will be #19 and #29 in the first round and #54 overall in the second round. The Reds should pick up 3 outstanding players on the first day. This could end up being a very important draft, with 3 very good selection spots on Day 1 in a reported deep draft class. If things fall in a good way for the Reds, Day 1 could be a banner day.

  18. Reed Tom

    Series wins, or at least splits on the road, are crucial if the Reds are going to make the playoffs.

  19. ToddAlmighty

    Me and my four run start got a mention by Steve. How about that? I say that it just continues to show how important a starter not giving up 4 runs is for a team’s chances to win. This season when Homer Bailey gives up 4 or more runs, the Reds are 0-5. When he doesn’t, then they’re 5-1.

    If the 5-1 and 0-5 are too small of a sample size for you, how about three years?

    Since 2012, the Reds are 32-15 (.680) when Bailey gives up less than 4 runs. In that same time span, they are 7-22 (.241) when Bailey gives up 4 runs or more.

    I know you don’t like it because it’s not a good stat for Bailey since he gives up the most starts of 4 or more runs on the team, but it’s a VERY good indication on if the team is going to win or lose.

    – –
    That said, good start by Bailey. Hopefully many more to come.

    • Steve Mancuso

      You’ve drawn me back in this even though it wasn’t my intention. This way of thinking about starting pitching is just wrong. Mike Maffie wrote an entire post disproving it, with plenty of links to research. The percent chances of losing increases gradually as runs giving up increase. There is no magic threshold at the number 4. Pitchers who have the ability to give up 2 or fewer runs are more valuable. Studies show that.

      Teams that score 3 runs have a 12% better chance of winning than if they score 2 runs. Teams that score 4 runs have a 14% better chance of winning than if they score 3 runs. If they score 5 runs, they have 14% better chance of winning than if they score four runs. If they score 6 runs, they have a 9% better chance. The value of additional runs declines quickly from there.

      So there is, in fact, no magic cut off at 3 runs. Each run given up is important at roughly the same amount.

    • Steve Mancuso

      Your “magic” number breakdown would be equally true if you looked at giving up five runs or more. You’re grouping all the 5, 6, 7, 8 run outings with the 4 run outings. Why don’t you just show the losing percentage at 4 runs, if that’s the magic number? Compare that to when pitchers give up three runs. You’ll find there’s about a 15% difference.

      • ToddAlmighty

        Fine, looking at Bailey, Cueto, Cingrani, Latos and Leake since 2012, plus Arroyo in 2012 & 2013, as well as Simon’s 2014 (since we need a larger amount of games for a larger sample size if we’re just specifically looking at only 3 and 4 runs starts. For instance, Cueto only has 12 in that time.), we’ll JUST look at the record of games when 3 runs are allowed by the starter compared to 4 runs. We won’t even worry about 0-2 or 5-whatever. So basically everyone who’s made any significant number of starts for the Reds in the last three years.

        The results?

        Reds record since 2012 when those starters allow 3 runs: 33-29 (.532)
        Reds record since 2012 when those starters allow 4 runs: 19-34 (.358)

        That’s an 86 win (borderline playoffs) season versus a 58 win (only better than the AAAstros) season. That seems like a pretty huge tipping point to me. Almost enough to be called a “magic number”.

      • Steve Mancuso

        I don’t agree with the whole “tipping” point thing, each run makes it harder to win fairly gradually until you get way out there.

        But by your own criteria, since .532 *isn’t* generally good enough to win the division, isn’t the real tipping point between allowing 2 and 3 runs? Isn’t that exactly what your data proves?

        [Props for making the effort to collect the data to discuss this point. I appreciate that and it makes for a much more reasoned conversation.]

      • ToddAlmighty

        Yup, no problem.

        I guess it’d all be a matter of expectations to consider it success, though. If you’re giving you team a better than 50% chance to win a game then you’re probably doing your job as a pitcher. Sure less runs allowed will always be better. I wish all the pitchers on our team can give up 0 runs.

        That being said, 3 runs is still them doing a good enough job to make you win more often than not. 4 runs is them doing a job bad enough you’d be one of the two, if not the worst team in the league. The 4 win difference between 86 wins and 90 is a lot closer to playoffs (or play-in game) than the 23 you’d have to get just to break even that you’d have to get if you are looking at the 58 win season from the 4 runs.

        2 runs would be an excellence tipping point. 3 runs is the competence tipping point. I was more just looking at what the least you can do while still expecting your team to be a winning one.

  20. charlottencredsfan

    Tonight’s lineup:
    BHam – cf
    Todd – 3b
    BP-2b
    JBruce – rf
    Mes – c
    Ludwick – lf
    Pena – 1b
    CZ – ss
    TC – p

    • ToddAlmighty

      It’s a shame that with Ludwick’s .230/.324/.295 and Bruce’s .129/.206/.161 month of May that Lutz can’t get another start after going 2-4, 2B in his only one thus far.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Things like these make me wonder if Price is going to work out. Obviously, I use stats as a reference but mainly relying my experience of watching 1000 of games. My main problem is RL can’t get around on a decent fastball unless he cheats. That won’t take you far. I don’t understand the Reds coaching staff missing this fact.

        Quite honestly, I see the same thing with JV.

      • charlottencredsfan

        Difference being, JV has enough bat speed to fight them off until he gets a pitch he can handle or walk in many cases. Before he was DL’d, guys were really busting him inside and seemed to have identified his Achilles heel. Hopefully this was only the effect of the quad muscle issue.