Are we done with St. Louis yet?

The optimist in me says the Reds are due for a win.  The pessimist in me says I don’t like our chances with the Cardinals offense and Mike Leake on the mound.  Let’s hope the optimist wins!

Reds Lineup:
1. Hamilton CF
2. Phillips 2B
3. Votto 1B
4. Bruce RF
5. Frazier 3B
6. Heisey LF
7. Mesoraco C
8. Santiago SS
9. Leake C

A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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  1. First post on the new website. Really hoping for a win today. Please no Bell/Ondrusek

  2. cozart and hamilton’s numbers are getting to be truly comical at this point. cozart has a .077 OPS!

  3. Bell is on DL thankfully. Ondrusek pitched recently so prob not today.

    i am sure Partch is available… good lord…

    what happened to our bull pen…. sadly they are all hurt …

    can Billy and Cozart get on the 1st base? that’s what i would like to see. they are batting close to what i be batting if i were in the games.

  4. At least nobody can complain that Santiago is a worse option than Cozart at this point.

  5. I don’t understand why everyone hates on Ondrusek all the time. That being said, so far this season has been painful to watch, but I agree with others it is way too early to panic!

  6. Good to see Price shuffling the lineup so that Mes is batting 7th, and that Cozart is getting the day off…hopefully it will help.

  7. I like this lineup. Reds win 6-4. Votto gets his first HR and BHam gets his first SB.

  8. People with more stolen bases than Billy Hamilton:

    1. Emilio Bonafacio-5
    2. Ryan Braun-2
    3. Giancarlo Stanton-2
    4. Paul Goldschmidt-2
    5. Pedro Alvarez-1
    6. Yonder Alonso-1
    7. Brayan Pena-1

    People tied with Billy Hamilton in SB’s:

    1. Chad Dotson
    2. Homer Simpson
    3. Norm from Cheers

  9. Joey Votto has 5 plate appearances with RISP. Matt Holliday has 13. I wonder why Joey isn’t a RBI guy…

  10. I really wish Walt went out and acquired Bonifacio instead of Santiago, but we’ll see what he can do. Nelson even over Ramon.

    • Walt has done a terrible job managing personnel over the past 1.5 seasons.

  11. Although i agree with Ondrusek not being effective, it was Jay Bruce who cost us the game last night. It was a huge momentum swing and had he made the catch, most likely a different result.

    • While I agree with you (Bruce usually makes that play), Ondrusek still served up a ball that Holiday crushed to the wall in RF after showing he was happy going fishing that night (2K earlier on breaking balls down). It’s sort of flimsy, I know, but I don’t think it’s 100% on Bruce. It was have been a good play if he made it, which is why the scorer likely called it an error.

  12. there we go hamilton!

  13. Each game a little better. Get that runner in!!!

    • If Hamilton is playing, he belongs in the #1 spot. There’s no argument for anything else.

  14. Perhaps if we had kept Choo, Bham could have moved to his natural position at SS. Cozart would have been trade bait at that point.

    • By all accounts, BHam was brutal at SS. But it could just be the organization gave up on him too quickly there.

    • If we had that money to keep Choo, it would have been better spent on a package for a big bat in LF. Reds never were going to keep Choo – it was a smart decision given the exorbibant amount of money required.

  15. Lead off 3B and we can’t score, wow.

  16. Absolutely disgraceful.

  17. Hm. Three pitches on the extreme outside corner. Splendid.

  18. Guys can’t event hit a sac fly…….they look lost

  19. Absolutely pathetic offense. This team is not good.

  20. every one of those curveballs was outside.

    • Every stinking one of them and they weren’t even close. Votto is at a sever disadvantage when the umpire doesn’t understand the strike zone.

  21. Holy hell, is the strike zone as bad as Gameday makes it look? Not a single called strike on Votto was in the zone.

  22. what are you supposed to do when the ump calls three strikes that were balls?

    • I don’t buy that. The first curveball sets the tone for the AB. The other ones were in the exact same location …

      If the umpire calls it a strike once, then twice … then why the hell is Votto taking it the third time?

      • This. JV is struggling with his role on this team. He could be the greatest #2 hitter in the grand history of the game but he is neither a #3 or 4 hitter.

        • JV is the best 1 through 9 hitter on the team. Nothing will change that.

          I heard Miguel Cabrera was 0-4 with a K last night. He’s a bum.

        • Billy Hamilton will change that.

  23. Joey should curse out the ump – show a little fire!

  24. Suicide squeeze or something, SAC FLY, SOMETHING! BP, Votto and Bruce with a runner on 3B and 0 outs, no one moved. Put the dang ball in play.

  25. Please bring in a true hitting coach

  26. Surprised at how much static fans give Mike Leake, pre game show showed his career #’s as being 12 over .500, can’t imagine too many teams getting that production out of a fifth starter.

  27. that is very frustrating. BP just got beat. Votto should have walked on 4 pitches though, so it’s hard to put that on him.

  28. Sorry, but there has to be some accountability with this team

  29. Un-freaking-real. Cannot beat the Cardinals wasting opportunities over and over and over and over. End of rant.

  30. What’s the difference between Malaysian flight MH730 and the Reds offense? One is something that mysteriously disappeared and no one can seem to find, and the other is an airplane.

  31. Had that been Peralta up there, guarantee they score

  32. the ump isn’t giving the same pitch to leake.

  33. Well if that’s not proof in the pudding that this team is snakebite, then nothing is – man on 3rd no outs, too of the order and nothing – just pitiful

  34. Votto … I don’t care about his OBP; the guy is completely useless with runners on 3rd base. Lowest percentage I’ve ever seen in getting the run home last year; going to be even lower this year.

    • are you even watching the game?

      • I am … and when an umpire calls strike one outside, you don’t take strike two and strike 3 in the EXACT SAME LOCATION.

        Ball or strike, he’s an idiot for taking it when the umpire is calling it a strike.

        • the third was obviously more outside than the first. if it makes you feel better to call him an idiot go ahead, but bad calls are bad calls. there’s a reason for the strike zone. it’s because it’s very hard to do anything productive with balls that are outside of it. i’m not going to say that votto should be forced to lunge out over the plate to hit a curveball, just because the ump is doing his job poorly.

    • Votto with men on 3rd in 2013:

      .417/.577/.917

    • Do you have any, you know, facts to back up this statement?

  35. That 3rd strike on Votto wasn’t even close. That being said, BP looked terrible. Maybe squeeze? I kid.

  36. Fastest guy on the planet and virtually any hit ball scores him. What the heck is going on out there? I’m really sorry but it is Votto’s job to get that guy in.

    • he was trying, obviously. he wasn’t thrown a single strike.

      • They may not have been in the “strike zone” but they were most certainly strikes.

      • He was thrown three pitches in the same location, all three were called a strike. The umpire was consistent … that’s what you want.

        So go ahead and give Votto a pass for striking out looking … he’ll do it 100 more times this year w/ runners on base; get used to it.

  37. You gotta get the runner in!!! Do something. Good golly gum drop, does anyone on this team want to win? We’re about as meek as a herd of sheep at the moment. This is uber frustrating!

  38. I am in agreement with the Votto bashers here. You just can’t take strike 3 with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs.

    • And yes, it was indeed outside. That said, so were the other 2 strikes and the umpire called them. No reason to think he isn’t going to call it again. Love Joey but he’s got to at least try to fight one off there.

    • LW, he is a perfect #2 hitter so move him there. I heard Jim Leyland talk about Cabrerra and how with RISP he expandsd his strike zone because he believes it is his job first and foremost is to drive in runs. JV has the prefect mindset for a #2 hitter so put him there.

      • I tend to agree that Votto would be a good #2 hitter. Truth is, he’d be good no matter where you put him.

        • He is a great hitter but at this point better suited to the #2 hole than #3. I would expect at some point Price makes this move.

      • Yeah, Joey is the best #2 hitter on the team. And the best #1 hitter, and the best #3 hitter, and the best #4 hitter, and the best…well, we get the idea.

        Having Joey bat #2 on this team makes sense, but it is merely because the Reds’ #1 and #2 hitters struggle so much at not making outs.

  39. Might be a good day to find a way to yourself ejected if you’re Bryan Price. A little fire now and then is a good thing – even in baseball.

    • True… Arguing balls and strikes is a guaranteed way of getting yourself tossed too. “You’ve got to be ******* kidding.” said in a very calm tone of voice while I was catching one day was good enough for one ump. Ended up getting my money’s worth before going to the ‘clubhouse’ though. And I almost never argued.

  40. Guys, I wore my Redlegs shirt to work today to try and help turn this ship around! Now you may question the effectiveness of wearing a shirt when I’m in Minnesota and the game is in St Louis, but the Reds were 12-0 last season when I wore this shirt. The numbers never lie.

  41. Geez. Don’t take a bathroom break during the Reds’ half of the inning. You’ll miss it.

  42. Yadi almost hit another one out… we need to negotiate some kind of peace treaty with that guy.

  43. I posted in the other tread about how the standing second inning interview with a beat reporter on the radio is often bad news, but Fay is usually better luck than Sheldon. Fay just proved that true. Good job, Mr. Leake (and Mr. Fay).

  44. Dilly BH catch that Molina fly over the wall? Gameday makes it look that way.

  45. BP, give him a chance to steal second.

  46. Holy cow… didn’t join the game until the bottom of the first… didn’t realize a lead-off triple was wasted. Wow. That’s all I’m gonna say about that.

  47. Nice job Brandon Phillips. You accomplished absolutely nothing.

    • Seems harsh… he singled. What is that about?

      • In that situation, which Phillips was in a lot in spring; he never works the count. He swings at just about every pitch; and has taken a total of 5 pitches in 9 AB’s with Hamilton on first base.

        Even though he singled, he didn’t allow Hamilton a chance to take the base, which we know he can do on his own. So by advancing Hamilton to second, he’s really not doing anything Hamilton can do on his own.

        So unless Votto comes through with a big hit, it’s a wasted single. However, if he works the count and hits that single later, it’s 1-0 Reds.

        • Can’t follow you there. Maybe if there were less than two outs. But I don’t know that I can get behind criticizing a guy and making it his “job” to watch Billy Hamilton every time he’s on base and then hit. He did a good job, advanced the runner. Needing a run in the 9th? Ok, then I could get behind it.

  48. Ball 1 to Votto was closer to a strike than called Strike 1…

    Yeesh.

  49. This plate umpire is comical with his strike zone.

    • Honestly, even Leake is getting some bizarre strike calls now.

      But overall, it’s inconsistent, which is the worst sin of an umpire.

  50. I see Mr. Clutch came through again, twice.

    Wow.

  51. Leake twirling a good one !! Get the man some runs !

  52. Leake is sharp today…lots of movement on his pitches

  53. maybe some of you are just used to rooting for football or basketball? it seems weird to me to gripe so much when guys get out in baseball. it happens way more often than not, you get that right? it’s a zero-zero game, that means they are getting out as much as we are.

  54. bruce has the early team lead in walks. that’s a good sign.

  55. Wow, this team is not fun to watch

    • You know how Marty calls a pitcher’s duel “a good ol fashioned good one?” I guess you never really agreed with him.

  56. Mes!!

  57. En FUEGO!

  58. Mes! Mes! Mes! That’s the catcher the team needs!

  59. Yes sir Mez!!!!

  60. Yeah baby!!! 2 run HR by Mesoraco. 2-0 Reds top 4th.

  61. Ramon! Ramon! Ramon! That’s the shortstop the team needs!

  62. Little by little, the bats are showing signs of life.

  63. Big inning for Leake to throw up a goose egg

  64. votto does have to get in front of that ball. i’ll never get why he tries to play so many balls to the side.

  65. Matt Hollidy is a double play machine!!!

  66. Leake a #5 that pitches like a #3. Got to love that kid.

  67. This is a bad spot for the Reds….We have to get through this and get back on track. Just silly that Bham doesn’t score in the first..

  68. It’s Billy’s world and we’re just living in it.

  69. Whether you think he’s ready to play in the Show or not…BHam is a game changer

  70. For the love of things, get the ball out of the infield Bruce. Preferably out of the park.

  71. wow. tagging up on a popup.

  72. Holy smokes…no words can describe that sac fly

  73. single, stolen base with no throw, tag to third on a popup to left, tag to home on a popup to second.

  74. No one, and I mean no one, in MLB scores that inning except for Billy Hamilton.

  75. Now that’s not a very good arm out in RF but, wow! Very impressive by Hamilton.

  76. An anomaly but Jay Bruce got an RBI on that….. Baseball loves its stats, but so much of stats in baseball is situations.

  77. The Ham Man making Cards’ D look silly.

  78. This looks a lot like the Reds team we hoped to see in 2014. Maybe this is an omen.

  79. That’s three times on base for Hamilton today. We’ve all said it before…if Billy can get on base even at a .300 clip he will be incredibly valuable.

  80. Leake is doing a great job of weak grounders today. Only given up 3 hits, but also erased a couple of those with DPs.

  81. is broxton available to close? i think lecure would be more than adequate, just curious

  82. Gift from Holliday! Make ’em pay again Mes.

  83. I assume most have seen Votto’s interview at Busch Stadium Tuesday dressed as a Canadian Mounted Policeman aka Dudley Do-Right. It was hilarious.

  84. Cash it in fellows. One area where the Reds are far superior to the Cards: defense.

  85. cardinals looking sloppy here

  86. Is it wrong that I feel better about Leake at the plate here than I did about Santiago?

  87. Interesting non-applicable stat of the day:

    Cozart’s wRC+ before this game started was -97. The next worst in the majors with at least 20PAs is Allen Craig at -45.

    Frazier, Pena, Bruce, Ludwick and Votto all above 100 (league average-ish).

  88. I sure hope Price didn’t call for that bunt.

  89. nevermind. Why was he bunting, especially with 2 strikes?

  90. Darn. Another run would have been nice there.

  91. The Bruce/Hamilton sac fly video clip is now posted on Gameday. It was worth the wait!

  92. 1st and 3rd with no one out. Zero runs. There’s the Reds we’ve come to love the last couple of years.

    • Yes, sadly when the other team has that situation, I hope it’s limited to one run damage. With the Reds in that situation, I’m happy to walk away with a run sometimes.

  93. Reds might be the absolute worst situational hitting team in MLB

  94. Leake carving them up with the precision of a surgeon – Madduxesque!

  95. I just don’t get Leake bunting there. He smoked the ball in his first AB that Carpenter made a GG play on for the out. 1st and 3rd w one out, swing away. I would have rather seen Santiago bunt than Leake.

  96. I can’t get over Leake bunting in that situation either. Maybe if an RBI guy is coming up next….nope…nevermind. Even then I don’t get it when Leake is such a good hitter.

    • You guys should get familiar with Tom Tango’s Run Expectancy Tables. They’ll make you hate that bunting decision even more!

      http://www.tangotiger.net/re24.html

      Basically, if the bunt were SUCCESSFUL, it would have reduced the chances of scoring a run from 65.2% to 28% and reduced the run expectancy of the remainder of the inning from 1.211 runs to 0.626 runs.

      That, of course, assumes Mike Leake is an “average MLB hitter,” which he isn’t, even if he’s good for a pitcher, so the numbers aren’t quite so stark, but still clearly would show bunting is stupid is just about every situation. (Bottom 9, tied with no outs being an obvious exception).

  97. Better not see Ondru or Hoover even flinch in that bullpen

  98. Let’s strand Adams at second.

  99. Take a seat Yadi !!!!

  100. I feel bad when Yadi strikes out………heh.

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A simple Reds fan from a simple town. I have been a Reds fan all my life. The 1990 team was crowned Champions during my prime youth years and I grew up idolizing Chris Sabo all the way down to the flat top hair style and the #17. I have passed that love of the Reds down to my three boys who love the game and the Reds just as much as I do! Follow me on twitter @CoachWilson17

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