2014 Reds / Game Thread

Reds at Cardinals (April 9, 2014)

Are we done with St. Louis yet?

The optimist in me says the Reds are due for a win.  The pessimist in me says I don’t like our chances with the Cardinals offense and Mike Leake on the mound.  Let’s hope the optimist wins!

Reds Lineup:
1. Hamilton CF
2. Phillips 2B
3. Votto 1B
4. Bruce RF
5. Frazier 3B
6. Heisey LF
7. Mesoraco C
8. Santiago SS
9. Leake C

223 thoughts on “Reds at Cardinals (April 9, 2014)

  1. First post on the new website. Really hoping for a win today. Please no Bell/Ondrusek

  2. cozart and hamilton’s numbers are getting to be truly comical at this point. cozart has a .077 OPS!

    • I hear you; there is lot of “comical” averages ~ 10 games into a season. I guess I don’t see the humor.

  3. Bell is on DL thankfully. Ondrusek pitched recently so prob not today.

    i am sure Partch is available… good lord…

    what happened to our bull pen…. sadly they are all hurt …

    can Billy and Cozart get on the 1st base? that’s what i would like to see. they are batting close to what i be batting if i were in the games.

  4. I don’t understand why everyone hates on Ondrusek all the time. That being said, so far this season has been painful to watch, but I agree with others it is way too early to panic!

    • Might have something to do with the fact that he’s not very good at baseball.

      • Ondrusek has a 50% making things worse conversion rate. And yes, that is a made up stat. He’s been bad.

      • Compared to who? Better ERA, WHIP than Manny Parra, Curtis Partch, Alfredo Simon, so what are you comparing him to?

    • In 2013, he had the 11th lowest WAR for relievers in the NL with 50 IP. he had the 17th worst LOB% (left on base%), at 74.8, meaning 15.2% of the runners who were ever on base while he was on the mound scored. He was the 6th worst at giving up homers (1.91 per IP).

  5. Good to see Price shuffling the lineup so that Mes is batting 7th, and that Cozart is getting the day off…hopefully it will help.

    • Now if we can just get Billy out of the lead off spot until he gets more comfortable.

  6. I like this lineup. Reds win 6-4. Votto gets his first HR and BHam gets his first SB.

  7. People with more stolen bases than Billy Hamilton:

    1. Emilio Bonafacio-5
    2. Ryan Braun-2
    3. Giancarlo Stanton-2
    4. Paul Goldschmidt-2
    5. Pedro Alvarez-1
    6. Yonder Alonso-1
    7. Brayan Pena-1

    People tied with Billy Hamilton in SB’s:

    1. Chad Dotson
    2. Homer Simpson
    3. Norm from Cheers

  8. Joey Votto has 5 plate appearances with RISP. Matt Holliday has 13. I wonder why Joey isn’t a RBI guy…

  9. I really wish Walt went out and acquired Bonifacio instead of Santiago, but we’ll see what he can do. Nelson even over Ramon.

    • Walt has done a terrible job managing personnel over the past 1.5 seasons.

  10. Although i agree with Ondrusek not being effective, it was Jay Bruce who cost us the game last night. It was a huge momentum swing and had he made the catch, most likely a different result.

    • While I agree with you (Bruce usually makes that play), Ondrusek still served up a ball that Holiday crushed to the wall in RF after showing he was happy going fishing that night (2K earlier on breaking balls down). It’s sort of flimsy, I know, but I don’t think it’s 100% on Bruce. It was have been a good play if he made it, which is why the scorer likely called it an error.

    • If Hamilton is playing, he belongs in the #1 spot. There’s no argument for anything else.

  11. Perhaps if we had kept Choo, Bham could have moved to his natural position at SS. Cozart would have been trade bait at that point.

    • By all accounts, BHam was brutal at SS. But it could just be the organization gave up on him too quickly there.

    • If we had that money to keep Choo, it would have been better spent on a package for a big bat in LF. Reds never were going to keep Choo – it was a smart decision given the exorbibant amount of money required.

    • Every stinking one of them and they weren’t even close. Votto is at a sever disadvantage when the umpire doesn’t understand the strike zone.

  12. Holy hell, is the strike zone as bad as Gameday makes it look? Not a single called strike on Votto was in the zone.

    • I don’t buy that. The first curveball sets the tone for the AB. The other ones were in the exact same location …

      If the umpire calls it a strike once, then twice … then why the hell is Votto taking it the third time?

      • This. JV is struggling with his role on this team. He could be the greatest #2 hitter in the grand history of the game but he is neither a #3 or 4 hitter.

        • JV is the best 1 through 9 hitter on the team. Nothing will change that.

          I heard Miguel Cabrera was 0-4 with a K last night. He’s a bum.

  13. Suicide squeeze or something, SAC FLY, SOMETHING! BP, Votto and Bruce with a runner on 3B and 0 outs, no one moved. Put the dang ball in play.

  14. Surprised at how much static fans give Mike Leake, pre game show showed his career #’s as being 12 over .500, can’t imagine too many teams getting that production out of a fifth starter.

  15. that is very frustrating. BP just got beat. Votto should have walked on 4 pitches though, so it’s hard to put that on him.

  16. Un-freaking-real. Cannot beat the Cardinals wasting opportunities over and over and over and over. End of rant.

  17. What’s the difference between Malaysian flight MH730 and the Reds offense? One is something that mysteriously disappeared and no one can seem to find, and the other is an airplane.

  18. Well if that’s not proof in the pudding that this team is snakebite, then nothing is – man on 3rd no outs, too of the order and nothing – just pitiful

  19. Votto … I don’t care about his OBP; the guy is completely useless with runners on 3rd base. Lowest percentage I’ve ever seen in getting the run home last year; going to be even lower this year.

      • I am … and when an umpire calls strike one outside, you don’t take strike two and strike 3 in the EXACT SAME LOCATION.

        Ball or strike, he’s an idiot for taking it when the umpire is calling it a strike.

        • the third was obviously more outside than the first. if it makes you feel better to call him an idiot go ahead, but bad calls are bad calls. there’s a reason for the strike zone. it’s because it’s very hard to do anything productive with balls that are outside of it. i’m not going to say that votto should be forced to lunge out over the plate to hit a curveball, just because the ump is doing his job poorly.

  20. That 3rd strike on Votto wasn’t even close. That being said, BP looked terrible. Maybe squeeze? I kid.

  21. Fastest guy on the planet and virtually any hit ball scores him. What the heck is going on out there? I’m really sorry but it is Votto’s job to get that guy in.

      • They may not have been in the “strike zone” but they were most certainly strikes.

      • He was thrown three pitches in the same location, all three were called a strike. The umpire was consistent … that’s what you want.

        So go ahead and give Votto a pass for striking out looking … he’ll do it 100 more times this year w/ runners on base; get used to it.

  22. You gotta get the runner in!!! Do something. Good golly gum drop, does anyone on this team want to win? We’re about as meek as a herd of sheep at the moment. This is uber frustrating!

  23. I am in agreement with the Votto bashers here. You just can’t take strike 3 with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs.

    • And yes, it was indeed outside. That said, so were the other 2 strikes and the umpire called them. No reason to think he isn’t going to call it again. Love Joey but he’s got to at least try to fight one off there.

    • LW, he is a perfect #2 hitter so move him there. I heard Jim Leyland talk about Cabrerra and how with RISP he expandsd his strike zone because he believes it is his job first and foremost is to drive in runs. JV has the prefect mindset for a #2 hitter so put him there.

      • I tend to agree that Votto would be a good #2 hitter. Truth is, he’d be good no matter where you put him.

        • He is a great hitter but at this point better suited to the #2 hole than #3. I would expect at some point Price makes this move.

      • Yeah, Joey is the best #2 hitter on the team. And the best #1 hitter, and the best #3 hitter, and the best #4 hitter, and the best…well, we get the idea.

        Having Joey bat #2 on this team makes sense, but it is merely because the Reds’ #1 and #2 hitters struggle so much at not making outs.

  24. Might be a good day to find a way to yourself ejected if you’re Bryan Price. A little fire now and then is a good thing – even in baseball.

    • True… Arguing balls and strikes is a guaranteed way of getting yourself tossed too. “You’ve got to be ******* kidding.” said in a very calm tone of voice while I was catching one day was good enough for one ump. Ended up getting my money’s worth before going to the ‘clubhouse’ though. And I almost never argued.

  25. Guys, I wore my Redlegs shirt to work today to try and help turn this ship around! Now you may question the effectiveness of wearing a shirt when I’m in Minnesota and the game is in St Louis, but the Reds were 12-0 last season when I wore this shirt. The numbers never lie.

  26. Yadi almost hit another one out… we need to negotiate some kind of peace treaty with that guy.

  27. I posted in the other tread about how the standing second inning interview with a beat reporter on the radio is often bad news, but Fay is usually better luck than Sheldon. Fay just proved that true. Good job, Mr. Leake (and Mr. Fay).

  28. Dilly BH catch that Molina fly over the wall? Gameday makes it look that way.

  29. Holy cow… didn’t join the game until the bottom of the first… didn’t realize a lead-off triple was wasted. Wow. That’s all I’m gonna say about that.

      • In that situation, which Phillips was in a lot in spring; he never works the count. He swings at just about every pitch; and has taken a total of 5 pitches in 9 AB’s with Hamilton on first base.

        Even though he singled, he didn’t allow Hamilton a chance to take the base, which we know he can do on his own. So by advancing Hamilton to second, he’s really not doing anything Hamilton can do on his own.

        So unless Votto comes through with a big hit, it’s a wasted single. However, if he works the count and hits that single later, it’s 1-0 Reds.

        • Can’t follow you there. Maybe if there were less than two outs. But I don’t know that I can get behind criticizing a guy and making it his “job” to watch Billy Hamilton every time he’s on base and then hit. He did a good job, advanced the runner. Needing a run in the 9th? Ok, then I could get behind it.

    • Honestly, even Leake is getting some bizarre strike calls now.

      But overall, it’s inconsistent, which is the worst sin of an umpire.

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