It is the final game of the season.  The game means nothing.  I suppose the goal today is to keep players fresh, get some young guys a shot, and escape the game injury-free.  It would be nice to finish the game with a win while the Reds are at it.

Discuss the game here Reds fans.  Go Reds!  Win Tuesday!

179 Responses

  1. sezwhom1

    Nice lineup Dusty. Sheesh. I know, we gotta get Ludwick going!

  2. FrustratedRedsFan

    I would like anyone on this forum to explain this line-up to me. Why are the Reds not playing Robinson, Hamilton, Hannahan, etc to keep them in form if they’re number is called on Tuesday?

    (Yea, I’m raw about Cingrani being thrown out like garbage)

      • FrustratedRedsFan

        @Steve Mancuso:

        Take a look at the line-ups today for the Dodgers, the Braves, the Cardinals. Those are teams with an extra day off, and they don’t seem too concerned with playing for the fans, or keeping guys “sharp”. In my experience, it’s the guys who are trying not to get hurt that get hurt more often. That ball in the gap Choo think he can get, but pulls up on to play it safe; tweaks an ankle and so on.

        The second sentence in the post is spot on “This games means nothing”. I’ll be watching in fear.

      • FrustratedRedsFan

        @Steve Mancuso:

        So you are saying that the Reds are trying to make the fans today happy … rather than do what gives them the best chance to win Tuesday?

        Did you see that inside the park HR … scary stuff isn’t it?

    • Eric the Red

      @FrustratedRedsFan: I just replied to your long Cingrani post over in the game recap.

      I’m far more worried about having the regulars sharp for Tuesday than the backups. Also, it’s the last home game of the season and after the horrible ball the team has played so far on this home stand it would kind of be a kick in the teeth to the fan base to sit all the regulars. I expect Dusty to substitute more/earlier than usual.

      I wonder if Mike Leake will be used, to get his feet wet as a reliever, and to get him some work. I’d do that; he’s not needed until Thursday (or is it Friday?) at the earliest. Unless Latos is actually hurt, in which case Leake is Cueto’s backup tomorrow.

  3. Y-City Jim

    Hamilton may be thrown out as garbage as well for the post-season. I don’t think Dusty carries him on the roster because it might hurt the feelings of whoever gets dropped. Cingrani may be back on since Latos is done for the year with the bone chips in the elbow. Of course, it requires the season going past Tuesday.

    In other baseball news, how about Terry Pendelton’s tongue lashing of Chris Johnson. While I am not a big fan of the screamers and doing it publicly, it is still refreshing to see a coach hold someone accountable and to hate to lose. Wouldn’t it be nice to see that occur when necessary here in Redsland?

      • Y-City Jim

        @Eric the Red: I saw an article that said he has bone chips in his elbow. Wouldn’t that finish him?

    • CharlotteNCRedsFan

      @Y-City Jim: Jim, it could be bigger than that. I’m a little suspicious of Dusty thinking that BH was taking the spotlight away from the rest of the tea,m. And he is right but putting the best team on the field should be the overriding factor.

      Today would be a perfect day to get Billy out there. But if he reached base 4 times, scored 3 or 4 runs, had 3 SBs, and possibly another exiting play (triple, inside the park HR, scoring from 2nd on an infield out/hit, etc.), Dusty would be under tremendous pressure to start him Tuesday. Let alone keep Billy on the post-season roster.

      • FrustratedRedsFan


        Very good points.

        As for Latos, it was said today by Dusty Baker that Mat has a bone chip that has moved “to a bad place”. Quite an interesting time for that to happen don’t you think? (I think Mat is now paying for concealing a season long injury. At least he wasn’t sent to Arizona!)

      • Eric the Red

        @FrustratedRedsFan: That’s very bad news. I’m not seeing it anywhere, but if true that would be unfortunate. It’s a good thing we lost yesterday so Cueto didn’t pitch today. Yay, I guess.

      • Eric the Red

        @CharlotteNCRedsFan: He’ll almost certainly be on the roster. He’ll almost certainly not start. Nor should he, even if he hit for the cycle and stole the other six bases. But you’re right that there would be pressure, and that’s the kind of thing Dusty would worry about. (Which may be why Heisey isn’t starting….)

      • CharlotteNCRedsFan

        @Eric the Red: Give me some decent odds and I’d bet you. Won’t be surprised in the least if Billy is off roster comes Tuesday. If the Reds advance, I will surprised if Billy is on the roster.

      • Eric the Red

        @Eric the Red: Just to be clear: you don’t think Hamilton will even be on the WC roster? He will be, unless he gets hurt between now and Tuesday.

      • CharlotteNCRedsFan

        @Eric the Red: No. Not what I said. I said as far as the WC roster, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was left off. That means: I expect him to be but won’t be surprised if he isn’t. I don’t expect to be on the roster “if” the Reds advance.

      • Eric the Red

        @CharlotteNCRedsFan:That’s why I was trying to clarify your comment. (Which, after all, was missing a few important words.) No need to get snippy about it.

        I’d be beyond shocked if he’s not on the WC roster. Beyond that, I haven’t counted up but I think I’d be surprised if he’s left off.

      • CharlotteNCRedsFan

        @Eric the Red: No snip involved. Try to hold the oversensitivity to a minimum. We are all men here – no offense to any ladies present.

      • Eric the Red

        @CharlotteNCRedsFan: “No. Not what I said.” I guess it’s hard to judge inflection on the Internet, so Ill take you at your word you didn’t mean to sound snippy. Until that stuff about “we’re all men”, I guess.

      • CharlotteNCRedsFan

        @Eric the Red: Sorry and I do mean that. Just so frustrated with this team. Your good and I’ll try not to be such an idiot. This all . However, still can’t believe you don’t want to see Billy starting. Haven’t you seen enough of Ludwick, Heiesy , XP, DRob?? I just don’t get it. Out side of one caught stealing, young Billy has not had a misstep yet. Since last Tuesday, this is as dead a team as I can recall seeing.

        Hope JC is lights out Tuesday night because it doesn’t look like the cavalry will be coming.

      • Eric the Red

        @CharlotteNCRedsFan: That’s cool. I feel your pain 🙂

        I don’t think Billy is ready to start and hit good MLB pitching. I hear conflicting things about his defense. I don’t want Ludwick starting, but Billy’s not the answer. He’s a great weapon off the bench late in the game, though.

  4. Eric the Red

    Anybody know the tiebreaker for best record in the NL? If the Cardinals lose today and the Braves win, who plays the WC winner?

  5. Eric the Red

    Jim Kelch: going that extra yard as a fan by getting his face burned bright Red. Or is that my TV?

  6. Hunt4RedsOctober

    REPENT! For the end is near!

  7. Johnu1

    Good thing this game isn’t being played with any urgency. The Reds have no urgency to energize the fans.

    • CharlotteNCRedsFan

      @Johnu1: I wouldn’t mind see them break a 4-game losing streak. This game does not mean a thing but for my confidence, a win today sure wouldn’t hurt. Or at least show some signs of life. With JC going Tuesday, I don’t expect the team to have produce many runs and that’s a good thing.

  8. wildwestLV

    So we’re losing? Against their C team? Is this just Dusty’s way of rubbing this team’s nose in it’s own mess, like potty training a puppy?

  9. Hunt4RedsOctober

    Good thing Dusty threw the starters out there. We wouldn’t want them to fall out of their bad hitting habits by having an extra day off before Tuesday!

  10. CharlotteNCRedsFan

    Time to get the regulars out of there. They are making a mockery of the game of baseball. These guys better find a way to get their act together by Tuesday.

  11. SoonerCaniac

    I love the baseball, I love the Reds, and I don’t think they are breaking my heart. I think they are ripping it clear out of my chest to use it for batting practice. Thank goodness they can’t hit. Come on guys, gimmie my heart back and let’s get out of this slump NOW.

  12. CharlotteNCRedsFan

    We take the “fun” out of fundamentals.

  13. Sergeant2

    Cowboy just said the players are not playing with the kind of effort you should be at this time of year. (not his exact words, but that was his point)

    • CharlotteNCRedsFan

      @Sergeant2: I hope the Cowboy is right. Because if this “effort”, I’m really worried about this team.

  14. FrustratedRedsFan

    Billy HAmilton in center now for Choo. Genius move giving Choo those two very necessary AB’s today.

  15. Sergeant2

    Does anyone know who the announcers are for the WC game on TBS. Conan maybe?

  16. prjeter

    Reynolds saved Cozart from his 3rd error. I know he’s only got 1 technically, but the throw bringing Votto off the bag in the 1st should have been an error. Glad to see Zack’s head in the game.

  17. bigblueshark41

    This is terrible. This is worse than not starting the regulars. Watching our “stars” stumble and bumble around like its an intrasquad scrimmage.

  18. jas_428

    Imagine how terrible the Pirates and fans will feel losing Tuesday night.

  19. jas_428

    Former Reds star Stubbs not in starting lineup today for the Indians.

  20. Sergeant2

    I don’t think I would be off base in saying that the players (Reds players) are simply going through the motions. Can’t blame them really, after all none of them have an aspect of their game that’s needs work. (“Sarcasm” is the word for today)

  21. bigblueshark41

    I’m sure the 40,000 in attendance are thrilled getting P- slapped in the face with this effort than watching some of the other guys at least give some effort.

    • FrustratedRedsFan


      Not sure what you’re talking about. I think Reynolds is pitching awesome today … surprised not a single other MLB team picked him up for free when he went on waivers in July.

      Reynolds > Cingrani is so easy to see!

      • bigblueshark41

        It’s just like Cingranny just turned around

  22. santa barbara reds fan

    Does anyone know if MLB has set the starting time for Tuesday’s game?

    • FrustratedRedsFan

      @santa barbara reds fan:

      8:07 is first pitch for Tuesday. That won’t change, even if there is a play-in game on Tuesday for the AL (if all three teams tie for the spot)

  23. bigblueshark41

    I believe it is at 8:07 EST

  24. bigblueshark41

    Brandon Cumpton the new Dice-K

  25. prjeter

    FSO announcers just interpreted one of Dusty’s earlier comments to mean that Ludwick will bat in the 2-hole on Tuesday.

    If this is the case, I’ll be lost for words.

    Because if he bats 2nd in the 1-game playoff that means he’ll bat 2nd in any potential series we’ll make.

    While typing, another hard line drive by Votto right at someone. Bad f’ing luck today all the way around.

    • prjeter

      @prjeter: I’m starting to think it’s payback for all the flak he got for batting Cozart 2nd in the 1st half of the season. I never thought I’d see a situation where I’d rather have Cozart batting 2 when he was in the lineup.

    • tpteach

      @prjeter: If this is true, and I’m inclined to believe it is, Dusty has just lessened our odds of winning.

      I am so sick of Dusty I cannot even begin to put it into words. No, I’m not bashing. I’m stating that I believe that the majority of his managerial “strategy” decisions lessen this team’s odds of winning. The fact that we have some All-Star caliber players is what helps us win 90 games. Meaning, we win in spite of Dusty and could win more without him.

      • prjeter

        @tpteach: Absolutely. This team is at a disadvantage every single day before they step on the field. And I mean EVERY SINGLE DAY. He hasn’t used an optimal lineup one time yet. The main reason is because Votto hasn’t batted 2nd.

      • tpteach

        @prjeter: Totally curious: What would your optimal lineup look like with our current team?

      • prjeter

        @tpteach: It really depends on what Billy Hamilton turns out to be on the major league level. If he’s a .250/.300/.350 hitter, I think you gotta get him in the lineup, move Choo to LF, and bat BH in the 8th spot. If Billy could be a .260/.330/.360 sort of hitter, I think you go Hamilton, Votto, Choo as 1-2-3. If not, you go Choo, Votto, Bruce 1-2-3.

        My analysis suggest that going Choo/Votto or Votto/Choo with Bruce behind them, either 1 through 3 or 2 through 4 would yield the best run expectancy.

        So, with the lower Hamilton stats:

        Choo LF
        Votto 1B
        Bruce RF
        Mesoraco C
        Phillips 2B
        Frazier 3B
        Cozart SS
        Hamilton CF
        Pitcher P

        If Hamilton can get to that .260/.330/.360 level:

        Hamilton CF
        Votto 1B
        Choo LF
        Bruce RF
        Mesoraco C
        Phillips 2B
        Frazier 3B
        Cozart SS
        Pitcher P

        Looking forward to next year, assuming we don’t have Choo:

        Hamilton CF
        Votto 1B
        Phillips 2B
        Bruce RF
        Mesoraco C
        Ludwick LF
        Frazier 3B
        Cozart SS
        Pitcher P

        I don’t really like this lineup, but having three .290-.320 OBP guys like Phillips, Cozart, and Frazier makes it a bit tough to optimize things.

      • prjeter

        @prjeter: Really, most of it doesn’t matter expect getting the guy with the highest ISO (Bruce) to bat directly after the guys with your two highest OBPs (Votto, Choo). Notably, all three of these players are lefties, which doesn’t bother me in the least. Maybe against lefties you go Votto/Bruce/Mesoraco, as I suggested, either 3-4-5 or 2-3-4.

    • tpteach

      another hard line drive by Votto right at someone.Bad f’ing luck today all the way around.

      I will say this: The Pirates have added a technology to how they scout opposing batters and where to position their defense. Not saying that we don’t have that, but it’s newer for the Pirates and it seems to be helping them immensely. This is ONE reason you see so many of our good hits going right to Pirate defenders – they are in the higher percentage defensive position to make the play.

      • prjeter

        @tpteach: Yep, I’ve read those articles, as well. Votto has hit virtually no balls right down the 3rd base line, so Alvarez knows he doesn’t have to cover it. Take 4 steps to his left, and BINGO, out instead of base hit.

        I really like the way the Pirates seem to be run. I can’t comment on Hurdle b/c I don’t see his decisions day-in and day-out, but the fact that they’d replace Garret Jones (who was platooning 1B and RF) with Morneau and Byrd speaks volumes. They didn’t care about his feelings. He’s a major leaguer being compensated very well. He wasn’t producing so he was demoted. I wish that attitude was in our organization.

  26. topgun67

    what’s new.. just turned on to watch… losing again aye? would be 5th in a row to close the season…

    sure Tue is what counts, but in sports, momentum and confidence are critical and we don’t have it.

    only way we win is if Cuetos gets a shutout and just maybe we will score 1 run from Billy Hamilton’s effort (versus effort of our so called manager and highly paid “tired” players)

    can’t wait til this season is over w/ so I can watch the Bengals and cheer.

    if/when we fire Dusty – I will be celebrating a bit…

  27. Johnu1

    When I turned the game on in the 2nd, there were lots of energized fans behind home plate. Here in the 5th, the energized fans all seem to have gotten up and gone elsewhere. Nobody sitting there now.

  28. Hunt4RedsOctober

    The Reds should treat this season like a lame horse. Shoot it and get it out of its misery. Mercifully, it will be all over on Tuesday.

    Wednesday, the rebuilding begins.

    • dn4192

      The Reds should treat this season like a lame horse.Shoot it and get it out of its misery.Mercifully, it will be all over on Tuesday.

      Wednesday, the rebuilding begins.

      Rebuilding? You are joking right? They will put Hamilton in CF and the other 8 will remain the same.

  29. wildwestLV

    So, not really following the game, Izturis has the only hit, so far? Is that right? Maybe he SHOULD start Tuesday?

      • wildwestLV

        @Johnu1: And Cesar Izturis is the only player who can hit it?

      • topgun67

        @wildwestLV: yup… and that is where the Reds are today at game 162…

        what an up and down year… up initially and playing 500 ball mostly last 3 months…

        Indians might win 10 in a row to end the reg season… up 2-0… host a home WC game… what a nice story… Maybe Choo should have stayed there.

        Bengals struggling against lowly Browns…

  30. Johnu1

    Oh it’s raining … well that explains it all. That will keep hit totals way down.

  31. Hunt4RedsOctober

    This has gotten so bad its actually funny. Right now, the Reds couldn’t beat the Astros AA team. This is the worst I’ve seen this team in the last 4 years.

  32. FrustratedRedsFan

    Well if nothing else, Chapman will be fresh. 5 innings in the last three weeks.

    Wooo hoo!

    • prjeter

      @FrustratedRedsFan: This is what worries me the most about Tuesday.

      For sure, Dusty will use Chapman at some point. And we’ve seen his splits this year are pretty poor when he’s on long rest.

      • FrustratedRedsFan


        Ohh they’re not poor … they’re terrible. Would behoove Dusty to throw Chapman today, but we all know that’s not gonna happen.

      • prjeter

        @FrustratedRedsFan: It’s things like this that convince me Dusty just DOESN”T GET IT. And I don’t mean “he doesn’t get strategy.” I mean that he doesn’t have the brain power to understand the reasoning that SOMEONE in the organization has probably given him at some point. Such as “don’t bat terrible hitters 2nd,” or “don’t let your best pitcher waste away in the bullpen for 10 days at a time.” He thinks it doesn’t matter, and the more he does it, the more I think he just doesn’t know he’s doing something wrong.

  33. Johnu1

    The Astros came into today with a 14-game losing streak. I can’t say I see any similarities.

  34. jbemis44

    Izturis is 6 for his last 13 or something like that. Not that I want him in there on Tuesday.
    But I think if Ludwick is hitting 2nd on Tuesday I’m just going to go to my friend’s surprise birthday party rather than watch the game.

    • prjeter

      @jbemis44: FSO announcers say that Dusty said somethign like “Ludwick’s my guy in the 2 hole the rest of the year.” Since then, he’s been in the 2 spot every game. They also seem to think Dusty meant the playoffs also. Be ready. Ludwick will be batting 2nd on Tuesday. I hope he goes 3-4 with a homer and a walk! But we all know better.

  35. wildwestLV

    I wish TBS would just stay with the DET/MIA no-hitter.

  36. jas_428

    Any chance Corky pitches today or is he injured?

  37. wildwestLV

    Henderson Alvarez no-no over Tigers, in Miami.

    • wildwestLV

      @wildwestLV: Walk-off, wild pitch win too. Awesome to see some LIFE in a baseball team today.

  38. Sergeant2

    I didn’t realize today’s Reds game was being broadcast on TBS.

  39. Johnu1

    Well, it is nice to see somebody have a day. Nice work in Miami.

  40. Johnu1

    2 hits for the Reds today. Wow, lucky we weren’t playing Miami.

  41. Johnu1

    What do you suppose the Reds guys are saying in the dugout? “Got a good hack at that one, dude.”

  42. CharlotteNCRedsFan

    That was impressive home run. Almost Dunn-like in its majesty.

  43. Johnu1

    Cardinals don’t seem to be sensing much urgency. They just keep scoring runs.

    • wildwestLV

      @Johnu1: You know, if we lose on Tuesday, I won’t be too down, b/c whoever wins is going to St. Louis. And this team is not going to win against a Postseason Mode Cardinals team. Doubt Pittsburgh would, either, but they stand a better shot than us.

  44. santa barbara reds fan

    Baker and Jocketty are two dinosaurs bearing keeping their heads above the La Brea Tar Pits.

  45. CharlotteNCRedsFan

    Jeez, they ought to give the poor folks that came to this travesty, their money back.

  46. Just A Fan

    OK, I’m not watching the game but check in here periodically. Did Dusty pull Mesoraco for Corky Miller? When Mesoraco hasn’t started in 4 or 5 games? Maybe there is something to the thought that Dusty doesn’t like him.

  47. Johnu1

    In the bizarre scenario that the Reds rally and it goes extras, there are zero position players left. Only pitchers.

  48. Eric the Red

    Great. Mesoraco got 2 ABs today. Clearly, Dusty isn’t worried about keeping him sharp.

    • Johnu1

      @Eric the Red: Dusty probably thinks that’s Meso’s problem.
      I am sure Jacoby feels that way.

  49. wildwestLV

    There are still interesting games to watch today: I, for one, am enjoying the Angels attempting to knock the Rangers out of it. If you have it, it’s your last day of MLB.TV, use it!

  50. Sergeant2

    40,142 turned out for today’s titanic struggle, 40,142.

  51. Eric the Red

    I’m sure the Pirates catcher loves the thought if risking his life/career with Corky trying to score from 3rd.

  52. prjeter

    Greg Reynolds has more hits this year than Neftali Soto in 1/2 as many ABs. Food for thought!

    • prjeter

      @prjeter: I suddenly find myself wishing Soto would have another 3 pitch strikeout. Oh well. At least we didn’t get shutout! Thanks for Ceasar and Corky!!!

  53. Eric the Red

    Dusty bunted Corky to 3rd to give him s chance to score on a double 🙂

  54. Hunt4RedsOctober

    Ladies and gentlemen, one of the Reds top prospects…Neftali Soto. Talk about a barren minor league system!

  55. wildwestLV

    Why is Soto on this team, again? Really? No, REALLY?

    • prjeter

      @wildwestLV: Because he is one of the 40 best players in the organization. Draw what you may from that conclusion.

      I think he’s a hitter with decent potential, he just is trying to hit a HR every tiem up there because he knows his chances are limited (and done, now) for this season. Give him another spring training and few more ABs and he may turn into a .270/.300/.450 sort of hitter with 25 HR power. He plays 1st base, so I’m hoping he learns a new position or he has a good year next year so the Reds can trade him for something worthwhile.

  56. Sergeant2

    Is Corky retiring after this season? Seems like he would make a good coach, or maybe even a manager some day. Go Reds!

  57. wildwestLV

    “Cesar & Corky Show” should be the recap headline, even with a loss.

  58. Ethan D

    Has MLB said what time the game will be on Tuesday?

    • CharlotteNCRedsFan

      @Johnu1: Okay – this is the line of the day. Go collect your prize.

  59. Eric the Red

    Looks like Soto is ready to join the team next year: strikeout or DP with RISP, fits in well.

  60. Sergeant2

    Good catch by Hamilton. Used two hands to. Just like I was taught in little league. Nice to see.

    • prjeter

      @Sergeant2: I thought he was going to have to do a 1/2 dive-lean thingy that players do a lot. But he got there easily. Man, he’s quick!

  61. Eric the Red

    I can’t even keep them straight: is it Soto or Rodriguez that Dusty kept PHing in important spots a couple of weeks ago?

  62. wildwestLV

    Soto>Hamilton, on postseason roster? Would even Dusty do that?

    • Johnu1

      @wildwestLV: Soto is a 1B, so even if you might think him tempted, Votto has a much higher OBP than Soto does.

    • CharlotteNCRedsFan

      @wildwestLV: Who knows. Dusty has this thing for Soto and I for one do not think it’s healthy.

      • prjeter

        @CharlotteNCRedsFan: I’d be more happy with Lutz. And Lutz was only on the team early because Dusty found him “impressive” in spring training. But, he’s not even good enough for AAA. Dustyisms!

      • Johnu1

        @prjeter: Lutz kinda got lost in the Ludwickian shift. Not a great hitter but he did have some good swings. Decent outfielder.

  63. Eric the Red

    Yeah, that wasn’t really my main point.

  64. Johnu1

    Heisey, Hanny and Hen-Rod … a very unlikely trio of heroes. But life deals some strange hands at time.

  65. Eric the Red

    Kelch is wondering if the Reds will take 3 catchers to the playoffs. With the way Dusty uses Mesoraco, I’m not sure he’ll bother taking 2 catchers.

  66. Johnu1

    It pays to note that Cumpton pitched 5 2-hit innings against the A lineup, not the scrubs.

  67. Eric the Red

    Is there a way to refresh the chat without scrolling to the top and hitting reload?

  68. Johnu1

    Crap. Hannahan hit into a DP. Was hoping Hen-Rod would do that to finish off the season in great standard fashion. Now we have to settle for the strikeout. Well, almost as symbolic. Maybe more so. Rolen K’d last year to end it, btw.

  69. Eric the Red

    Cleveland against Tampa Bay. That’ll really pull in the casual baseball fan 🙂

  70. prjeter

    Lost 4 in a row to the Pirates. Facing Liriano at PNC. Confidence is low.

  71. Sergeant2

    Gentlemen I will see you Tuesday night for hopefully not the final time. Gonna be a good old good one in Pittsburgh. Go Reds! Adios Amigos.

  72. CharlotteNCRedsFan

    Reds Star of the Game? I give it to Jones for that monster HR.

  73. Johnu1

    So a large group of fans expressing disappointment at the team’s apparent lac of interest would do no good, I suppose.

    But if the front office is too dense to see what happened on the field, they must be looking at something else.

    I’m sure they will be spoon-fed the old “injuries” line or something again.

  74. CharlotteNCRedsFan

    I’m going to get an attitude adjustment. See you guys back here Tuesday night.

    Go Reds!!!

  75. redeyenation

    If we win the wild card and first series..I will concede “Dusty is a genius” and will never complain again re: his management style. If we lose on Tuesday night…Mr Castellini needs to start looking for a new manager.
    GO REDS!!

    • prjeter

      @redeyenation: I would make the same trade. But it wouldn’t be because I believe it. Dear higher power, if the Reds win Tuesday and win the NLDS, I will never complain about DB again. Signed, me.

  76. CI3J

    This is the way the season ends.

    This is the way the season ends.

    This is the way the season ends.

    Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

  77. icee82

    Question and then an observation. Does anyone really believe that Latos’ arm is “barking” whatever that Dustyism is supposed to mean. I think that he just wanted to start Cueto and that was his justification. Frankly I think that was probably a good call because everyone knows that Latos get “overly pumped” for games and loses his head sometimes. This Reds’ team just mystifies me. They have the talent but I have always questioned the heart with this group. They just seem to play very “robot like” at times with no passion. If we win the wild card game and then win the LDS, I will always never complain about Dusty again.

    • Johnu1

      @icee82: 2 things that I do not expect to ever happen are contained in your comment.

  78. Kurt Frost

    I never thought I would say this but I am glad this season is over.

      • tpteach

        @Kurt Frost:
        Yes it’s certainly terrible to win 90 games again.

        Knowing you’ll never win game 91. Yup.

      • topgun67

        @tpteach: what’s the point of winning 90 games? is that supposed to be the goal/milestone? with this talent and payroll?

        given what we have, we needed to go deep into playoff just to justify the payroll..

        we be very lucky to win 91st one in Pitts… i will watch as i always do but have absolutely no expectation.

        i am routing for the Indians.. they won 10 in a row – that’s the way to do it… been Indians fan only for 15 years whereas Reds fan since the 1970’s… but I like the way Indians play… they don’t have Votto’s of the world, but quite frankly, for that money, I rather have few of the Indians’ players

      • Johnu1

        @topgun67: Indians have a lot of talent. Really, they do. Way more talent than they were given credit for having. They need to get a closer, maybe, and learn how to beat Detroit. They almost won the AL-C.

      • Kurt Frost

        @CI3J: it’s really my own fault for getting pulled into all the negativiy in the comments here and on Twitter. Some people just aren’t happy unless they have something to complain about.

  79. sezwhom1

    Win 91 and winning 90 is a good thing. Lose and heads should roll. Boring team down the stretch. Tough to flip a switch and turn it around but we’ll see.

  80. topgun67

    Bengals lose to crappy browns… Reds got swept..

    Indians won 10 in a row… Browns won against the other OH team..

    It’s the rise of Cleveland I suppose…

  81. Johnu1

    AAAstros end the season losing 15 in a row.


  82. wildwestLV

    Don’t you have to pull for Drew Stubbs?

    • Johnu1

      @wildwestLV: I think anybody would pull for the guy. He isn’t the talent we thought he might be, but he gave the Reds a few exciting moments.

  83. eric nyc

    You’ve gotta hand it to these Reds – they have made the wildcard game WAY easier to watch. I am going to root like hell for them, but I have zero expectation of them winning. If they do, I’ll be ecstatic. But they have effectively tapered me off having any emotional reaction to them losing. They’re the methadone of MLB.

  84. Benchwarmer

    Think of the incredible letdown the piRATe fans will feel if the Reds hammer them in Pittsburgh. Crazier things have happened. Hopefully Dusty will take our most successful lineup (Choo, Phillips, Votto, Bruce, Frazier, etc.) and we kick the crap out of them. That will hurt A LOT more than being swept at home during the regular season. Call me an optimist but this team is totally different as the underdog, I think they’ll do it. Plus they may feel like their playing to save Dusty’s job (hopefully). Toothpick needs to go if they are as lifeless next Tuesday as they were this weekend.